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Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2011,08:48    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 25 2011,03:45) Sal:   Quote A specific criticism of CTMU as an ID theory is that it has yet to show itself as an operationally applicable theory to physical reality. Notions developed by other ID proponents and creationists have led to testable predictions both in the lab and field. CTMU is not there, nor do I expect it to be. It is a philosophical view of reality, not an operational science as far as I can tell. Like what Sal? Anybody care to ask? http://telicthoughts.com/blast-f....-265789 That's easy - Geocentrism. Clearly spawned from creationist views - tested - and found wanting. Young Earth also. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2011,08:52    yeah he didn't say those predictions were confirmed. DARWINIST YOU ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Badger3k Posts: 861 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2011,11:10    Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 25 2011,08:48) Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 25 2011,03:45) Sal:   Quote A specific criticism of CTMU as an ID theory is that it has yet to show itself as an operationally applicable theory to physical reality. Notions developed by other ID proponents and creationists have led to testable predictions both in the lab and field. CTMU is not there, nor do I expect it to be. It is a philosophical view of reality, not an operational science as far as I can tell. Like what Sal? Anybody care to ask? http://telicthoughts.com/blast-f....-265789 That's easy - Geocentrism. Clearly spawned from creationist views - tested - and found wanting. Young Earth also. Wait a minute - CTMU?  Is this the same thing as in this long (and amusing) thread? The thing with the self-professed genyus who got his IQ rating off an Omni magazine test? Interesting coincidence, but what a lot of word salad babble. -------------- "Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2011,11:33    Quote (Badger3k @ Feb. 25 2011,09:10) Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 25 2011,08:48) Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 25 2011,03:45) Sal:     Quote A specific criticism of CTMU as an ID theory is that it has yet to show itself as an operationally applicable theory to physical reality. Notions developed by other ID proponents and creationists have led to testable predictions both in the lab and field. CTMU is not there, nor do I expect it to be. It is a philosophical view of reality, not an operational science as far as I can tell. Like what Sal? Anybody care to ask? http://telicthoughts.com/blast-f....-265789 That's easy - Geocentrism. Clearly spawned from creationist views - tested - and found wanting. Young Earth also. Wait a minute - CTMU?  Is this the same thing as in this long (and amusing) thread? The thing with the self-professed genyus who got his IQ rating off an Omni magazine test? Interesting coincidence, but what a lot of word salad babble. The very same.  See also Mark Chu-Carroll's piece here, with a guest appearance by Teh Supper Genious himself. On the subject of ID predictions: according to deep thinker batshit77, ID successfully predicted the existence of the universe. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

sledgehammer Posts: 533 Joined: Sep. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2011,11:43    There's something very sad about a purported super-genius who has done squat with his/her gift. CTMU is pure woo. -------------- The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time. The terror of their tyranny is alleviated by their lack of consistency. -A. Einstein  (H/T, JAD) If evolution is true, you could not know that it's true because your brain is nothing but chemicals. ?Think about that. -K. Hovind

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2011,12:09    Quote (sledgehammer @ Feb. 25 2011,09:43) There's something very sad about a purported super-genius who has done squat with his/her gift. CTMU is pure woo. According to Wikipedia, he's received one of the highest accolades in the field of pure woo: Quote Langan is a fellow of the International Society for Complexity, Information, and Design (ISCID) -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2011,12:34    woo woo woo woo! oh i wouldn't say he hasn't done squat.  i bet that sombitch could squat a guernsey.  explain the snakes in his head, prolly not so much -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2011,17:57    Professor irwin Corey should sue for having his act ripped off. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 28 2011,15:05    Looks liek Telic Tards' server is having issues: http://telicthoughts.com/ Another evil Darwinist DDOS attack, Frilly Gilly? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

KCdgw Posts: 376 Joined: Sep. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,05:40    LOL ID Guy: Quote Mmmmmmmm, Ann Coulter JAD: Quote I don't agree with her on alot of things but I just love her wit and humor. She's also good looking. Is she married? Edited by KCdgw on Mar. 02 2011,05:41 -------------- Those who know the truth are not equal to those who love it-- Confucius

noncarborundum Posts: 320 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,08:13    Quote (KCdgw @ Mar. 02 2011,05:40) LOL ID Guy:     Quote Mmmmmmmm, Ann Coulter JAD:   Quote I don't agree with her on alot of things but I just love her wit and humor. She's also good looking. Is she married? Ewww. -------------- "The . . . um . . . okay, I was genetically selected for blue eyes.  I know there are brown eyes, because I've observed them, but I can't do it.  Okay?  So . . . um . . . coz that's real genetic selection, not the nonsense Giberson and the others are talking about." - DO'L

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,09:14    Nice Slapdown from Bill: http://telicthoughts.com/blind-c....-265838 Quote Reciprocating Bill Says: March 2nd, 2011 at 8:35 am This finding sits neatly within an orthodox evolutionary framework. Most important, going to the original paper, it is notable that this research was conducted to test a prediction arising out of that framework, as well as previous observations regarding the results of hybridization. That's how science is done. Comment by Reciprocating Bill — March 2, 2011 @ 8:35 am -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,09:22    IOW SI hasn't changed, IOW you have failed to provide any positive evidence for your position * Quote I'm not driving home some earth-shattering point here, but I leave readers with this suggestion: Just for fun, consider the ability of these cavefish from a design perspective. If you were assured that these cavefish were designs, how would you regard what's been revealed in this article? What would it say to you about selection, about variation, about species? what's the suggestion, again?  speculate freely unconstrained by material facts? oh, carry on then. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,09:35    Bonus (Joe) Tard: http://telicthoughts.com/blind-c....-265841 Quote Good day to you, sir. What orthodox evolutionary framework would that be? This finding fits neatly within baraminology, which is an evolutionary framework. It also fits in neatly with front loaded evolution. So could you please clarify what you are saying? Also there isn't anything in the theory of evolution that states take two isoate populations, have random effects cause different damage to the same body part, mate the two populations and have that once damaged body part rgain its original functin. So please, sir, explain yor comment. Comment by ID guy — March 2, 2011 @ 11:15 am Hmmm. Aborigines and Eskimos can't have babies then. Please, sir, explain why you are so stupid. DO IT STANDING UP! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,09:40    MOAR STUPID JOE Quote ID guy Says: March 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 am The next step is to take these hybrids ith sight, place them into a lightless cave- and see how longs it takes to get 100% blind fish. Then see if there are any new changes that caused the damage. Comment by ID guy — March 2, 2011 @ 11:18 am Joe would lament the 'damage' that caused him to loose his tail, if he believed in evolution. Funny how ID_Guy and Joe are both barking up the same stupid tree - mutations only cause harm! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,10:46    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 02 2011,10:40) MOAR STUPID JOE   Quote ID guy Sez: March 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 am The next step is to take these hybrids ith sight, place them into a lightless cave- and see how longs it takes to get 100% blind fish. Then see if there are any new changes that caused the damage. Comment by ID guy — March 2, 2011 @ 11:18 am Joe would lament the 'damage' that caused him to loose his tail, if he believed in evolution. Funny how ID_Guy and Joe are both barking up the same stupid tree - mutations only cause harm! fuck give the idiot a break.  he is cargo culting himself into a reinvention of wheels while real ninjas been rollin wit straight laminar flow for many moons.   ayo add that shit to the "Thout Experiments Joe Dun Did in His Basement" and shit, but word is bond what that muthafuckahs library access card don't show is that this shit done been worked out see Wilkens 2010 Heredity -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,10:51    that thread is gold Quote fifth monarchy man Says: March 2nd, 2011 at 8:20 am I would not expect the fish to care about or fix the "junk" eyes. I would expect them to pitch the dead weight and get on with their lives. These tards don't realize that they have imbued the events of their entire world with a teleology for which they have less than zero evidence.   Hey fifth monarchy tard, what makes you think these fish care more about what *you* expect them to do, idiot, than the guy who blows my pizza guy? Fuck do you think there is some kinda tard hotline straight to the derp of the universe or some shit?  you got a red phone to that muthafuckah? -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,10:55    techne tards thus Quote For example, certain genomes just have the intrinsic natural inclination to produce eyes and sight. This potentiality is not always actualized just like the potentiality for water to turn into ice is not always actualized (it might be changed into hydrogen and oxygen before it ever had the chance to be actualized into ice or whatever). oooh potentialities!  woowy! my emphasis of the really tardy part that is another example of how fundamental the anthropomorphized teleological antiempirical view of the universe is to tards. now, genomes have "inclinations".  like, you know, water and ice and stuff.  shit gots an "inclination" to stank and be all sticky and shit when you fall back in that shit now this ninja be answering the OP and shit Quote From a teleological perspective* this study just again confirms the presence of intrinsic finality/natural ends/natural inclinations or intrinsic natural ends/inclinations in nature, this time specifically related to the intrinsic finality of genomes naturally inclined to produce eyes and sight. While they have the potential to produce eyes and sight, this might not be always actualized, but sometimes when it is, it might be functionally relevant to the fitness of the organism. *that's where you tracked the shit in on your shoe, right there. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,14:07    haven't read any slimy sal lately Quote That's all that might be going on here with the fish. The had defective eyes, but each population had different sets of information causing the eye failure. If this were not the case, then each of the separate populations would have had sighted offspring by now!!!! because that is what populations *want* to do right?  poor blind sal running around in the dark and blaming it on his jesus glasses Quote The take home: 1. the observation does not affirm the power of selection YOU WILL AFFIRM THE POWER OF SELECTION OR DENY DARWIN!  YOU WILL AFFIRM THE POWER OF SELECTION OR DENY DARWIN!  YOU WILL AFFIRM THE POWER OF SELECTION OR DENY DARWIN!  YOU WILL AFFIRM THE POWER OF SELECTION OR DENY DARWIN!  YOU WILL AFFIRM THE POWER OF SELECTION OR DENY DARWIN!  YOU WILL AFFIRM THE POWER OF SELECTION OR DENY DARWIN!   fuck who talks like that anyway.  it's content-free Quote 2. it shows that selection doesn't work to arrest decay of eyesight, if it did, the crossing of populations wouldn't have been needed in the first place to effect the change. They would have still been seeing. Now if they didn't need to cross populations to create sight, it suggests that the eyesight is environmentally stimulated in the pheonotype. We call that developmental plasticity. One example is that grasshoppers change into the locust phenotype even if there was not a change in the genes, it was front loaded plascticity. who the fuck is "needing" to do what here?  christ that is some convoluted shit.  and then grasshoppers to locusts... anyone know WTF that is about Quote The bottom line, this example is not at all favorable to Darwinian evolution and blindness in organisms has been used by Allen Orr to criticize Daniel Dennett on Dennett's view that selection necessarily leads to design. To paraphrase Orr, seleciton can destroy design as much as build it. He used the example of a blind cavefish or crustacean to illustrate his point — specifically gammarus minus. why should anyone care what some guys wrote in a popular book ? why do these tards find science almost 3 years old to blog about?  fuck at least it aint harry barrington posting newsweek articles from the 70s. i miss davescot.  these telic tards are a buncha sad sacks i'd rather read topix -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,15:53    Joe posts (in bold!) http://telicthoughts.com/blind-c....-265859 Quote ID guy Says: March 2nd, 2011 at 5:43 pm The article is about convergent evolution – mutations reaching the same (end-point), albeit different, "solution" in indepedent populations. The theory doesn't predict that. And thereby doesn't predict the mating of two independent populations will restore the loss. Comment by ID guy — March 2, 2011 @ 5:43 pm http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/c/convergent_evolution.htm Quote Convergent evolution In evolutionary biology, convergent evolution is the process whereby organisms not closely related (not monophyletic), independently evolve similar traits as a result of having to adapt to similar environments or ecological niches. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monophyly Think sharks and dolphins, Tardboy. Although I guess he's just parroting what he's found in the article summary, so my beef is with the author also. Of course evolution predicts different, shall we say randomly selected removal paths for useless functionality. And mixing up via sexual selection can easily bring them back. The question is, why would a designer fuck with 20 populations of the same fish in different ways to remove ability for sight. He sure is moving in mysterious ways! edited. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

KCdgw Posts: 376 Joined: Sep. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,16:17    He's desperately trying to salvage his point. The study (and the topic) isn't about convergent evolution. It's about isolation, divergence, and complementation. -------------- Those who know the truth are not equal to those who love it-- Confucius

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,17:28    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 02 2011,09:35) Bonus (Joe) Tard: http://telicthoughts.com/blind-c....-265841 Quote Good day to you, sir. What orthodox evolutionary framework would that be? This finding fits neatly within baraminology, which is an evolutionary framework. It also fits in neatly with front loaded evolution. So could you please clarify what you are saying? Also there isn't anything in the theory of evolution that states take two isoate populations, have random effects cause different damage to the same body part, mate the two populations and have that once damaged body part rgain its original functin. So please, sir, explain yor comment. Comment by ID guy — March 2, 2011 @ 11:15 am Hmmm. Aborigines and Eskimos can't have babies then. Please, sir, explain why you are so stupid. DO IT STANDING UP! Also, explain PYGMIES+DWARFS!!!!!!! -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,20:37    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 02 2011,16:53) The question is, why would a designer fuck with 20 populations of the same fish in different ways to remove ability for sight. He sure is moving in mysterious ways! perhaps the designer is bored with the internet and making galaxies and shit so he starts fucking punishing fish with blindness and giving fracteria blagellums and shit.  and joe a penchant for mens boners joe is a real fucking tard.  like, a REAL one.  for real.  and stuff. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Badger3k Posts: 861 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,23:13    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 02 2011,20:37) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 02 2011,16:53) The question is, why would a designer fuck with 20 populations of the same fish in different ways to remove ability for sight. He sure is moving in mysterious ways! perhaps the designer is bored with the internet and making galaxies and shit so he starts fucking punishing fish with blindness and giving fracteria blagellums and shit.  and joe a penchant for mens boners joe is a real fucking tard.  like, a REAL one.  for real.  and stuff. Hey did anyone look to see if the fish had hairy palms?  I mean, maybe they just liked to beat the old fish-meat too much, and, you know, went blind.  Maybe they first started to need glasses, and had trouble typing due to unduly hairy hands, then...er...um....anyway.... :D -------------- "Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

Acipenser Posts: 35 Joined: Jan. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2011,23:38    Quote (Badger3k @ Mar. 02 2011,23:13) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 02 2011,20:37) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 02 2011,16:53) The question is, why would a designer fuck with 20 populations of the same fish in different ways to remove ability for sight. He sure is moving in mysterious ways! perhaps the designer is bored with the internet and making galaxies and shit so he starts fucking punishing fish with blindness and giving fracteria blagellums and shit.  and joe a penchant for mens boners joe is a real fucking tard.  like, a REAL one.  for real.  and stuff. Hey did anyone look to see if the fish had hairy palms?  I mean, maybe they just liked to beat the old fish-meat too much, and, you know, went blind.  Maybe they first started to need glasses, and had trouble typing due to unduly hairy hands, then...er...um....anyway.... :D Well...emm..errr...they do have more 'hair' (superficial neuromasts) on their cheeks.......

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2011,22:38    Chunky to RB:   Quote I think I'll also ban you from this thread since twice you were too chicken to answer my simple question. That is all it takes to get oneself banned from a Chunkdz thread? Wotta dipshit. ETA: It's not even his thread. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2011,00:07    But ..but... they have a Pantheon! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2011,08:11    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 04 2011,23:38) Chunky to RB:     Quote I think I'll also ban you from this thread since twice you were too chicken to answer my simple question. That is all it takes to get oneself banned from a Chunkdz thread? Wotta dipshit. ETA: It's not even his thread. RB you can always woo that tard with some waxy purple  prose about how much Wes wants to lick Richard Dawkin's chest hair off.   Chunky is the kind of tard that doesn't believe in love, just grunting pain, shit smeared sweat and a time-delay self-loathing Too bad Tyler killed his blag that was some world class repressed homo shit.  Don't repress it Chunk baby we'll love you much more long time if you just be yourself there cupcake. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2011,08:41    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 04 2011,17:38) Chunky to RB:     Quote I think I'll also ban you from this thread since twice you were too chicken to answer my simple question. That is all it takes to get oneself banned from a Chunkdz thread? Wotta dipshit. ETA: It's not even his thread. Where you went wrong is you forgot to agree with him.

noncarborundum Posts: 320 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2011,15:13    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 04 2011,22:38) Chunky to RB:       Quote I think I'll also ban you from this thread since twice you were too chicken to answer my simple question. That is all it takes to get oneself banned from a Chunkdz thread? Wotta dipshit. ETA: It's not even his thread. First this:   Quote Reciprocating Bill wrote:   Quote    This finding sits neatly within an orthodox evolutionary framework. Orthodox? That’s a term usually used in a religious context. So what does that make people who question the orthodoxy? Heretics? Notice how Bill doesn’t make an argument here, just a vague appeal to authority. Then this:   Quote The theory of evolution doesn't make such a prediction. Convergent evolution- either way (destruction nor construction) is a prediction of the theory of evolution. I love how "this fits right into standard evolutionary theory" is an "appeal to authority", but "no, it doesn't" is perfectly okay. -------------- "The . . . um . . . okay, I was genetically selected for blue eyes.  I know there are brown eyes, because I've observed them, but I can't do it.  Okay?  So . . . um . . . coz that's real genetic selection, not the nonsense Giberson and the others are talking about." - DO'L

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