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blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,10:26    I guess my claim that you're a stupid blowhard rather than a bright blowhard stands? Remember that answering yes/no questions quickly sums up how smart or stupid you are. A bright blowhard answers the direct question and then reams the asker. A stupid blowhard avoids ever pinning himself down on the answer because he can't understand the question.  Then he reams the asker with nonsense. We want the answers!  We want the answers!  We want the answers! -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,10:38    No particular reason... -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Steviepinhead Posts: 532 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,16:19    My apologies--I think! Okay, it's not always easy for me to tell, maybe I need to lay on the table and get my neurons poked--to ke for mixing my perhaps-not-so-funny, but mildly-intended poke at posters bearing initials Quote Just when I'm getting whiplash of the brain trying to wrap it around having BWE and ke both posting interdigitally on the same thread (maybe I just have initialexia?) in with my perhaps-also-less-than-amusing, but most definitely-non-mild jab at Vmartin: Quote along comes Vmartin to pinch what's left of my nerves. Surely there is no consistency to his fractured english.  Surely he is simply a poseur conning poor jad (arrgh! ouch!) along... Or maybe Vmartin is an initialization, too: very muddled anti rational twisted inept nerdling. Dang!  I thought that was going to spell "sycophant."  Though I've yet to see an ant which could sigh and cough at the same time. Never in life would I ever confuse the irridescent ke with a sycophant... And never in life or after would I have intended anyone to confuse ke and, ugh, Vmartin. There's something to be said for posting separately when trying to make separate points.  I'll try to remember that in future. Hoping that's clearer. Your pinhead (and occasionally your idiot), Stevie

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,17:34    Quote (Steviepinhead @ July 24 2007,16:19) There's something to be said for posting separately when trying to make separate points.   Heck, everyone bitches at ME when I do that . . . :( -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Steviepinhead Posts: 532 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,18:41    But, but, Lenny, us pinheads actually care deeply what people think of them. Not wanting to offend--anyone, ever (ok, ke, at least today)--is our deepest desire. You, of course, are made of sterner stuff, off which misunderstandings richochet. Ring-mail?  Kevlar'n'ceramic body armor?  Slithery scales?

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,19:31    Quote Evolutionists must actually answer the criticisms leveled against their theory, or abandon it. Science does not require that another theory immediately take it's place, we can keep studying biology quite well without it. Funny that biologists DON'T choose to study biology 'without evolution'. Gee, why is that?   Quote It is truly sad that scientific illiteracy exists at the level it does. Perhaps when enough people become educated not only to what science actually knows, but also how it is supposed to work, then the religion of Evolution Sorry,  when someone says 'religion of Evolution', they might as well hang a big sign around their neck saying "I AM A FUCKING MORON".   Quote that has been foisted upon Science Ironically, by the scientists themselves. Those materialists are so devious that way. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,20:55    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 24 2007,20:47) Okay, so we have Joe's menu of beliefs, which are apparently mutually exclusive: a) 'materialism' b) 'design' Joey seems to think that any designer is, of necessity, non-materialistic. Which means, I presume, that everyone who has ever sent in a design patent to the Patent Office, is a god. (snicker)  (giggle) What a tard. It sure is a shame that Joe is such an insignificant little nobody of a nothing in the ID, uh, movement, that he will never get his chance to testify in open court. BWA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!! -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Blair Posts: 13 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,05:51    Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ July 24 2007,06:53)     Quote (Blair @ July 24 2007,06:47) By the way, though, isn't Lenny Flank kind of rude to people?  And if he is "jr." is he related to the Marxist writer and theoritician Lenny Flank? Yes, I am rude.  I don't like fundies, and see no reason to be nice to them. And I *am* the Marxist writer and theoretician.   :) Fascinating. I always get a kick out of talking to Marxists. Say, whats your take on the some 100 Million victims of Communists in action? The old traditional one?  You know, they weren't "real" Marxists, or not true "interpreters" of Marx, or perhaps not "good" Marxists? I know you hate Leninists, so I suppose that your would argue that Lenin was a "false prophet"?  Of course, they were at least both atheists.  (Wait! Maybe he didn't have the Original Text or used a Corrupt Translation?  Even worse though, he may have Willfully Misquoted Marx!) My own suspicion is that Marx never existed, but was a creation of Engels.  (Hahaha, just a little joke.  I know Marxists have a sense of humor and always appreciate a good one: in fact, the just KILL me!  )

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,07:06    Quote (Blair @ July 25 2007,05:51) Say, whats your take on the some 100 Million victims of Communists in action? I dunno -- how do you feel about all the victims of the Inquisition?  And the witch burnings?  And the pograms? You can read all about my views here: http://www.geocities.com/lflank/marxindex.html About 400 pages worth. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,09:15    I've just rubbed Tiger Balm into my aching biceps and am now stinking out my lab. Just thought you all should know that. Louis -------------- Bye.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,09:58    Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,09:15) I've just rubbed Tiger Balm into my aching biceps and am now stinking out my lab. Just thought you all should know that. Louis Have you also been hanging out at the gymnasium? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,10:08    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 25 2007,17:58)   Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,09:15) I've just rubbed Tiger Balm into my aching biceps and am now stinking out my lab. Just thought you all should know that. Louis Have you also been hanging out at the gymnasium? I can smell it from here, it smells of England's Lions thrashed by All Blacks (snicker). -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,10:11    "Don't listen to him, sir. You have an enchanting musk." -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,10:12    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 25 2007,15:58) Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,09:15) I've just rubbed Tiger Balm into my aching biceps and am now stinking out my lab. Just thought you all should know that. Louis Have you also been hanging out at the gymnasium? Yes, but for GoP unrelated reasons! ;-) Louis -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,10:13    Quote (k.e @ July 25 2007,16:08) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 25 2007,17:58)   Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,09:15) I've just rubbed Tiger Balm into my aching biceps and am now stinking out my lab. Just thought you all should know that. Louis Have you also been hanging out at the gymnasium? I can smell it from here, it smells of England's Lions thrashed by All Blacks (snicker). And let's be blunt, you guys should win the World Cup this year, if you don't choke. Anyway, you cheated during the Lions. You played better than we did. Louis -------------- Bye.

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,10:32    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 25 2007,18:11) "Don't listen to him, sir. You have an enchanting musk." OH, suck up....next you'll be saying he has lovely peks. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,10:39    Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,18:13) Quote (k.e @ July 25 2007,16:08) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 25 2007,17:58)     Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,09:15) I've just rubbed Tiger Balm into my aching biceps and am now stinking out my lab. Just thought you all should know that. Louis Have you also been hanging out at the gymnasium? I can smell it from here, it smells of England's Lions thrashed by All Blacks (snicker). And let's be blunt, you guys should win the World Cup this year, if you don't choke. Anyway, you cheated during the Lions. You played better than we did. Louis I fully expect them to throw it all away in between a few moments of the sublimely divine rapture of the boot and hand on leather. It's enough to make the gods weep. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,10:58    Quote (k.e @ July 25 2007,16:39) Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,18:13) Quote (k.e @ July 25 2007,16:08)   Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 25 2007,17:58)     Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,09:15) I've just rubbed Tiger Balm into my aching biceps and am now stinking out my lab. Just thought you all should know that. Louis Have you also been hanging out at the gymnasium? I can smell it from here, it smells of England's Lions thrashed by All Blacks (snicker). And let's be blunt, you guys should win the World Cup this year, if you don't choke. Anyway, you cheated during the Lions. You played better than we did. Louis I fully expect them to throw it all away in between a few moments of the sublimely divine rapture of the boot and hand on leather. It's enough to make the gods weep. If I am being honest I think there is one team in the World Cup this year and it is the All Blacks. The second place possible winners are France, Oz, and the S Africans and maybe Ireland (although they are chokers of the first water. And I shall never forgive them!) Third place not much hopers, England, possibly Wales or Argentina. But as I am a true fan of the game and not just a jingoistic England supporter (despite the jokes), I am looking forward to seeing one of the best teams ever seen (NZ) kicking arse across the park. I hope you DO win it, because then we will see some stupendous rugby. Louis -------------- Bye.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,14:47    Quote (Louis @ July 25 2007,10:58) But as I am a true fan of the game and not just a jingoistic England supporter (despite the jokes), I am looking forward to seeing one of the best teams ever seen (NZ) kicking arse across the park. I hope you DO win it, because then we will see some stupendous rugby. Louis You guys have it made.  Here in the states, we can't even get Rugby on ESPN 2. The Spanish language stations will show what they call "football", and I call pansy ball or soccer, but never a Real Rugby match do I see on TV. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,22:58    I'm sorry to hear that. One of my brothers in law (actually brother in lust, I'm still not married to the mother of my 2 now adult children, why spoil a good thing?) plays Rugby near New Jersey somewhere, so I know there is support there for the game. My Aussie pals are hoping the All Blacks have peaked early since the Wallabies lost the Bledisloe and Tri Nations cups last Saturday arvo. There's nothing better, standing in a Aussie pub with a cold Guiness or two and watching 'The Blacks' (insert outrageous hyperbolic sporting  simile here) the 'Wallabies'. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,02:45    Quote (k.e @ July 26 2007,04:58) There's nothing better, standing in a Aussie pub with a cold Guiness or two and watching 'The Blacks' (insert outrageous hyperbolic sporting  simile here) the 'Wallabies'. Oh there is. Watching the final of the world cup when a young chap from England kicked a drop goal in the dying seconds of extra time to win the tournament and then collecting £200 off your arrogant Aussie mate who bet against England. Sadly I don't think this will be happeneing again this year! Oh and J-Dog, we are lucky with international rugby, but getting somestic games on TV here requires satellite or cable and then you don't even get all the games even for the big teams. Anything out of the top league of rugby....forget it! You can however watch Accrington Stanley play Poole Town FC at kiss chase (or soccer as some people call it) on sixteen different channels for free day or night. Oh and just to delineate the differene between soccer and rugby a little further: during the recent floods we've had in the UK (Steve have you been affected? We've escaped) two members of the England Rugby team were stranded returning to the Midlands. Ben Kay and former England captain Martin Corry helped locals where they were stranded by carrying old people to safety through the flood waters, helping build barricades and then slept in their car. Had it been one of those over paid ponces that plays footballs they would have whined until they were airlifted to the nearest hairdressing salon and carefully coiffured. Wankers to a man! Not that I'm at all biased. Louis -------------- Bye.

Blair Posts: 13 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,05:52    Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ July 25 2007,07:06)   Quote (Blair @ July 25 2007,05:51) Say, whats your take on the some 100 Million victims of Communists in action? I dunno -- how do you feel about all the victims of the Inquisition?  And the witch burnings?  And the pograms? You can read all about my views here: http://www.geocities.com/lflank/marxindex.html About 400 pages worth. Interesting material Lenny.  Obviously, Lenin was not a true Marxist! But in answer to your quetion, the people responsible for those things obviously misintrepreted Christ teachings, and were certainly not true Christians. Just as you point out that Lenin misintrepreted Marx and was certainly not a TRUE Marxist.   And I know you would not apply a double standard Lenny, or engage in anything like ridicule or invective, simply because "it works", because you are obviously a fair and honest peson.

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,05:55    Quote (Blair @ July 26 2007,05:52) Just as you point out that Lenin misintrepreted Marx and was certainly not a TRUE Marxist.  :D Errrr.....no. Lenin didn't misinterpret Marx, he altered it significantly. Essentially that would be the equivalent of adding your own text to the bible, NOT as you are suggesting reading it in a certain way. So....your argument is nonsense. Try again. -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

Blair Posts: 13 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,06:01    Oh, I see, he altered it rather than misinterpreted it. So we must stick to the ORIGINAL text, and avoid FALSE PROHETS who "add to or take away from" the text! Yes, yes...that makes sense.  Otherwise one could get the impression that Marx was some kind of hack concocting pseudo scientific "laws" of history. Wouldn't want that!

Blair Posts: 13 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,06:14    By the way, Lenny, I read the Mini Manual of the Urban Guerilla you have on your site. It certainly lays to rest the notion that atheists have a problem with killing! (And of course Marx was other things, but he certainly was an atheist, now wasn't he?  As Marx said, "criticism of religion is the premise of all criticism." ALL.  Apparently the author of the manual is too.) I guess those guys King and Ghandi were just wimps who didn't understand the laws of history. They didn't understand that you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs...and forget that we are talking about human beings, not omelettes, and that the omelette never seems to get made!) If only they had read Marx! (And I really get a kick out of your anarchy/socialism/democracy jusxtapositon.  Lenny...you so funny!!!)

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,06:45    Quote (Blair @ July 26 2007,06:14) It certainly lays to rest the notion that atheists have a problem with killing! I'm not an atheist, you twit.  (shrug) -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,06:47    Quote (Blair @ July 26 2007,05:52) You can read all about my views here: http://www.geocities.com/lflank/marxindex.html About 400 pages worth.[/quote] Interesting material Lenny. Read it already?  Wow.  Speed reader, huh. Of course, I already know that you didn't read it.  (shrug) -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,06:48    By the way, Blair, I care what you think about me. No, really, I do. (yawn) -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Blair Posts: 13 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,07:01    Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ July 26 2007,06:47) Quote (Blair @ July 26 2007,05:52) You can read all about my views here: http://www.geocities.com/lflank/marxindex.html About 400 pages worth. Interesting material Lenny.[/quote] Read it already?  Wow.  Speed reader, huh. Of course, I already know that you didn't read it.  (shrug) Uh, Lenny, I did NOT say I read your whole site. I said I read the minimanual. You aren't willfully misrepresenting me are you?  Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 26 2007,07:01    Quote (Blair @ July 26 2007,06:01) Oh, I see, he altered it rather than misinterpreted it. So we must stick to the ORIGINAL text, and avoid FALSE PROHETS who "add to or take away from" the text! Yes, yes...that makes sense.  Otherwise one could get the impression that Marx was some kind of hack concocting pseudo scientific "laws" of history. Wouldn't want that! I'm not saying he was a prophet either, I'm just saying that Marx wasn't a socialist, and even more distinctly, Lenin wasn't a Marxist..... I don't know what you're trying to say, I was just clearing up where you had made a clearly false statement which you had based your argument on. Is it just me who thinks this stuff should ALL get moved to the bathroom wall? -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

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