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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,10:05   

He wasn't happy enough with "Xion is a poopy head"

but Xion is a poopy head, and a young earth poopy head.  he is good for a discussion if you want to get him'her going about omphalos Last Thursdayism.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,10:49   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 24 2008,08:30)
Soon To Be Tard-Fest

I am posting this in anticipation of there being some wonderful material to put here from my favorite fundie idiot blog.

I would love to see some of you guys over there.  I'm afraid you might have to register.  i can't remember.

The poster (Harrison S Key) is a particularly stupid talking head over there and is not a bit scared to make grandiose pronouncements on topics that he knows absolutely jack-f-ing-shit about.  I would like to take him snipe huntin'.

Compare and contrast the discussion of "Hopeful Monsters" by a REAL talking head, Dr. Jerry Coyne, who is a guest poster on this subject at Carl Zimmers blog, The Loom

http://scienceblogs.com/loom....ost.php

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,23:35   

Crandaddy drops a fresh one on Ed's blog:
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If ID proponents espouse god of the gaps reasoning, at least they're on the right track to validating it--generally, at least.


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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2008,11:41   

Anyone know what the fuck this moron is talking about?  I don't speak stupidese so good.

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69.  BY ROGER 01.24.08 AT 7:39 PM
Steve — roger … are there actual examples of these contrarian data, or are you speaking hypothetically?

Roger — Yes, there are. Some are located in the Royal Society vaults and are kept under lock and key.


Didn't post the link.  The claim was made by this fool that 'contrarian data exist that prove young earth, boat load of animals', adam had no bellybutton, etc.  this was his response.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2008,12:05   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 25 2008,09:41)
Anyone know what the fuck this moron is talking about?  I don't speak stupidese so good.

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69.  BY ROGER 01.24.08 AT 7:39 PM
Steve — roger … are there actual examples of these contrarian data, or are you speaking hypothetically?

Roger — Yes, there are. Some are located in the Royal Society vaults and are kept under lock and key.


Didn't post the link.  The claim was made by this fool that 'contrarian data exist that prove young earth, boat load of animals', adam had no bellybutton, etc.  this was his response.

Pure tinfoilhattery.  There's a huge international conspiracy to impose evolution and suppress creationism, which will cause churches to burn, Ebola to spread, and the rule of the devil.  In addition to the Royal Society, this conspiracy no doubt involves the Freemasons, the Elders of Zion, the Knights Templar and the Jesuits.  Also Oprah Winfrey and George Steinbrenner.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2008,16:06   

Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 25 2008,13:05)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Jan. 25 2008,09:41)
Anyone know what the fuck this moron is talking about?  I don't speak stupidese so good.

 
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69.  BY ROGER 01.24.08 AT 7:39 PM
Steve — roger … are there actual examples of these contrarian data, or are you speaking hypothetically?

Roger — Yes, there are. Some are located in the Royal Society vaults and are kept under lock and key.


Didn't post the link.  The claim was made by this fool that 'contrarian data exist that prove young earth, boat load of animals', adam had no bellybutton, etc.  this was his response.

Pure tinfoilhattery.  There's a huge international conspiracy to impose evolution and suppress creationism, which will cause churches to burn, Ebola to spread, and the rule of the devil.  In addition to the Royal Society, this conspiracy no doubt involves the Freemasons, the Elders of Zion, the Knights Templar and the Jesuits.  Also Oprah Winfrey and George Steinbrenner.

You forgot the ancient Egyptian bigfoot aliens from Mars.

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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2008,16:09   

"MY NAME IS TARDEN CHATTERBOX"


"I AM STERNBERGER STORY. I WILL DISSAPEAR YOUR QOUTES"

"HI. I AM LOUIS. AND THIS IS MY WIFE, MY MUM"

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,07:58   

Sal Cordova has returned from a vacation to the redneck Riviera (Biloxi), and had a whole bunch of tard stored up, which he posted on YoungCosmos this week. It really is hard to choose just one quote from all of that dreck, but I finally settled on this one
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I got more than I prayed for. Coincidence? Perhaps, or perhaps not. It stands to reason that because the laws of physics tell us that the Ultimate Observer of physics predicted by Schrodinger’s equation is all knowing, it is reasonable to suppose God hears our prayers.

Not only is it a string of non sequiturs and illogic, it reads like he has been taking writing lessons from Denyse...

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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,08:45   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 26 2008,07:58)
Sal Cordova has returned from a vacation to the redneck Riviera (Biloxi)...

Sanctimonious Sal explains why he chose Biloxi:
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I spent part of my vacation at Biloxi. Here are some pictures of one of the place where I hung out. Biloxi is so much nicer than nearby New Orelans from what I hear. The people in Biloxi impress me as being God fearing…

God forbid that Sal should go to New Orleans, where the person serving him his Shirley Temples might be a fornicator, or worse!

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,09:31   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 26 2008,08:58)
Not only is it a string of non sequiturs and illogic, it reads like he has been taking writing lessons from Denyse...

Sal's English has never been very good. I suspect English is at least a second language to him.

   
Coyote



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,11:57   

Another one from FreeRepublic (no, it is not a spoof):

 
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I’m not hteo ne going against htis- it is Macroevolutionists that go against this as the last 150 years of research have shown the impossible nature of evolution, AND that design is both observably irreducible, and that design is present in everything - those insisting otherwise are doing so purely on religious beliefs that a process as yet undocumented ‘could have been possible’ despite hte incredible problems associated with the process as a whole and at every level. Macroevo’s can’t even demonstrate one small aspect of Macroevolution, and yet they ask that we teach our students that trillions of law violating steps took place and that NEW information just appeared out of nowhere due to a manipulation of a species specific information and that NEW parts and systems arose that violate the biological process. The ONLY way for NEW ifnormation to come about is through leteral gene transference, yet the Macroevo insists that stepwise accumulations that violate hte second law could create NEW information- Everythign science has found contradicts this, and every experiment to show the creation of NEW information has failed. The Macroevo is forced then to insist that CHANGED information within species specific parameters is equivelent to NEW information, and that CHANGED information can produce NEW organs- and htere simply isn’t a shred of evidence to suggest htis- ONLY assumptions driven hypothesis.

Source

  
Jim_Wynne



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,12:28   

Quote (Coyote @ Jan. 26 2008,11:57)
Another one from FreeRepublic (no, it is not a spoof):

   
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I’m not hteo ne going against htis- it is Macroevolutionists that go against this as the last 150 years of research have shown the impossible nature of evolution, AND that design is both observably irreducible, and that design is present in everything - those insisting otherwise are doing so purely on religious beliefs that a process as yet undocumented ‘could have been possible’ despite hte incredible problems associated with the process as a whole and at every level. Macroevo’s can’t even demonstrate one small aspect of Macroevolution, and yet they ask that we teach our students that trillions of law violating steps took place and that NEW information just appeared out of nowhere due to a manipulation of a species specific information and that NEW parts and systems arose that violate the biological process. The ONLY way for NEW ifnormation to come about is through leteral gene transference, yet the Macroevo insists that stepwise accumulations that violate hte second law could create NEW information- Everythign science has found contradicts this, and every experiment to show the creation of NEW information has failed. The Macroevo is forced then to insist that CHANGED information within species specific parameters is equivelent to NEW information, and that CHANGED information can produce NEW organs- and htere simply isn’t a shred of evidence to suggest htis- ONLY assumptions driven hypothesis.

Source

From that same source and post, we see:
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Simplistic Stepwise MICROevoltuion has been observed that obey the species specific parameters that keep KINDS within their own KINDS- BIG difference
Sounds familiar--look at the second panel:



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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,20:53   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 26 2008,09:31)
   
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 26 2008,08:58)
Not only is it a string of non sequiturs and illogic, it reads like he has been taking writing lessons from Denyse...

Sal's English has never been very good. I suspect English is at least a second language to him.

Judging from his accent (you can hear him speak in this video at 4:10), Salvador is either a native speaker or was at least exposed to English at an early age.

Like Denyse, Salvador comes by his linguistic deficits straightforwardly.  His brain is simply no better at language than it is at logical thinking, interpersonal relations, or ethical behavior.

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Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,22:45   

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I was kind of hoping English was his second language because, say, he migrated here on a boat from North Korea, hiding under a tarp, at the age of 15 or something.

I would check out the video, but I had some kind of exhaustion take over mid-to-late last year, and the thought of listening to Sal, or looking at Casey Luskin, or working on certain other projects I started in the last few years, is just intolerable. Tard exposure levels I used to be able to tolerate really got to me, I think.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,22:48   

I can't even keep up with my beloved UD thread right now. That level of tard is just brutal.

   
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,12:49   

A soulmate for us all.  Much piss-taking of people who comment on the BBC.

Bob

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2008,02:55   

Not a tard quote, but I was wondering... does anyone know who is responsible for assigning The Argument Regarding Design as a definition for "Tard"? I'd like to give credit where it's due...

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PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2008,09:31   

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Posted by Ash75 on January 29th, 2008
Casey's Critical Thinking

I’ll admit that some of the ways God deals with people in the Bible, especially in the OT, seem horrible. But then I remember he has a much better concept of the way life is set up than I do, since he created it. If he chooses to take people to the second stage of their lives by drowning them, who am I to say that my ways are more righteous?


The more I think about this quote, the more I need to go and have a lie down...

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Even the attempt to formulate ID is a generous accommodation." - ScottAndrews

   
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2008,08:50   

Jeeeeeeeeeesus Christ this is Rich Tard.


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SteveG: “If the universe does not operate under predictable rules, then there is no way we can ever really know anything about it.”

ASALTYDOG: That’s exactly your problem. How do you know that the universe operates under predictable rules? Because if you can’t know that, as you admit, there is no way you can have science. Given your world view, then, how do you account for the predictability of nature?


You no can haz scince.  God says Me haz scinec, betr wurld vew.

Hey, just in case you were wondering.
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ASALTYDOG: Rest assured that I belong precisely to the group of people who believe that the scientific evidence supports Biblical Creationism.

Oh we are assured son. No doubt.

Hang on to your tard-hats.  This one stretches the skin.
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SteveG: “Do we agree that the universe works, for the most part, by understandable and predictable natural laws (even if we don’t necessarily fully understand all of them?)”

ASaltyDog: “I have no idea from what pocket you have drawn these natural laws, but of course it must be a trick. I deny your concept of natural laws. I do believe that as a rule God faithfully does things in predictable ways. On what grounds do you believe there are such things as natural laws?”

SteveG: “On the grounds that when I drop my keys in the parking lot, they never hang in midair. They always fall. But as I said at the top, perhaps we’re talking about the same thing using different vocabularies.”

ASALTYDOG: That’s not the same thing as showing that there are natural laws. You have not seen any natural law walking loose in your parking lot, trust me. You have only seen some keys dropping a few times. Will the keys fall the next time you drop them?


Whoever said this was about repealing the enlightenment, collect your prize now.


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ASaltyDog: “Sorry, no neutral nor common ground here either. I don’t believe there are any natural laws governing tree growth. I do believe God makes trees grow. How do you know there are natural laws governing tree growth?”

SteveG: “I was mistaken, you’re right …. we do have no common ground. Unless you are playing some elaborate practical joke, which I really hope is the case.”

ASALTYDOG: Knock, knock. Anybody home? I ask questions, I get no answers.


We used to call that "Proud, to be stupid" where I came from.  Except I ain't really where I come from, no more.


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SteveG: “Find me one shred of evidence that dinosaurs and dogs lived at the same time.”

ASaltyDog: “Easy: the zoological, historical, and soteriological implications of the biblical revelation. In short, if dinosaurs and dogs didn’t live at the same time, I would still be in my sins. But I am not in my sins, so therefore dinosaurs and dogs must have lived at the same time.”


That's Right.  QED QED QED QED QED QED QED QUEERED

I can't bear to report any more.

This thread is one delicious mine of Jesus fighting amongst hisself for the prize of dumbest particle in His Body.  We have old women calling ordained baptist ministers 'atheist'.  I pretty much cowered as it was over my head, like the battle of atlanta.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2008,09:35   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 29 2008,09:50)
Jeeeeeeeeeesus Christ this is Rich Tard.

No, THIS is Rich Tard.

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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2008,10:02   

Deleted 'cuz I didn't wait for Lou's link to complete before I decided to post.

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rhmc



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2008,20:04   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 29 2008,09:50)
Jeeeeeeeeeesus Christ this is Rich Tard.

that is, indeed, a tard rich environment.

  
DerekRubin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2008,21:11   

Quote (rhmc @ Jan. 29 2008,20:04)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Jan. 29 2008,09:50)
Jeeeeeeeeeesus Christ this is Rich Tard.

that is, indeed, a tard rich environment.

But it is a fact ;)

By your logic there should only be a handful of species left in the world. Considering they don't change and adapt and that there was a set amount during the worlds conception there should be a lot less now shouldn't there?

  
Nomad



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2008,23:30   

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if dinosaurs and dogs didn’t live at the same time, I would still be in my sins. But I am not in my sins, so therefore dinosaurs and dogs must have lived at the same time.


Holy crap.  My standard favorite quote of "the creator is in my heart" as proof of creationism has now been firmly rejected in favor of this new load of steaming illogic.

On the other hand.. it would appear to indicate that all we have to do is show people sinning to prove that dinosaurs and dogs didn't live together.

Wait a minute.. So.. *I* could sin, and disprove creationism.  Right?

Oh, the power...

  
PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2008,04:02   

Quote (Nomad @ Jan. 29 2008,23:30)
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if dinosaurs and dogs didn’t live at the same time, I would still be in my sins. But I am not in my sins, so therefore dinosaurs and dogs must have lived at the same time.


Holy crap.  My standard favorite quote of "the creator is in my heart" as proof of creationism has now been firmly rejected in favor of this new load of steaming illogic.

On the other hand.. it would appear to indicate that all we have to do is show people sinning to prove that dinosaurs and dogs didn't live together.

Wait a minute.. So.. *I* could sin, and disprove creationism.  Right?

Oh, the power...

I think you are missing the big picture here... This Tard is *without sin*. Holy crap indeed. It's the Second Coming! Has this guy got an agent?

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J. O'Donnell



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2008,04:10   

A long time ago I had an internet debate with a fellow who tried to argue that "Food disproves evolution" as a base argument. Other classics from the, sadly now deceased, discussion included whales disproving evolution and many other equally as stupid statements.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2008,22:33   

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There are no laws of nature.
There are no impersonal forces.
There are no necessary connections.



I'm Not Shitting.

Put your hat on boy.  God damn it son get your hat on.  Trying to make a record here youngun.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2008,16:18   

AFDave on lake sediments:
 
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Er ... Lake sediments are soft, yes. But incompressible? Not the same thing.

 
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To further make my point ... Water can be thought of as soft. That is, you sink in it if you jump into it. But water is very incompressible. Hope that helps.


[I'm not sure, but I think he meant to say "compressible" instead of "incompressible" in the first quote.  I know it still makes no sense whatsoever, but at least it would have internal consistency that way.]

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Many Jews were in comfortable oblivion about Hitler ... until it was too late.
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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2008,09:47   

Best. PZ. Quote. Evar.

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I have to share a few tidbits with you from that hilarious book. It has a chapter titled "Purposeful Design" which purports to list 81 examples of design. He has very low standards. Basically, anything that works is evidence of design.

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The mouth, vagina, urethra, and anus are sealed by mucus when not in use and yet can open and close in controlled ways as needs arise.


This is a man who thinks the fact that he isn't drooling and feces aren't dribbling down his leg is a miracle from god. After reading his book, I kind of agree.


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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
JAM



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2008,15:25   

Great tard from Joy at Telic Brain Farts:

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We eat meat (well, some of us do) because it's an 'easy' food for nutritional purposes - our cells don't have to do the hard work of constructing complete proteins from raw ingredients, since we can get them pre-synthesized from animal sources whose cells did the work.


http://telicthoughts.com/news-in....-174682

  
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