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midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,06:20    UD--via Cornelius Hunter--has gone anti-vax. I think perhaps Dynese and Cornelius are entangled tardicles. Edited by midwifetoad on Mar. 04 2015,06:33 -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,09:23    Corney Hunter wisely doesn't say that a vaccine caused a death. He'd be slandering if he did, since an autopsy says otherwise. Just the same: Quote I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is! Edited by midwifetoad on Mar. 04 2015,09:23 -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,10:39    Quote (Soapy Sam @ Mar. 04 2015,05:55) WJM   Quote Holy moley, BA77!! You’re like Mr. Universe in the movie “Serenity”. You have access to ALL the information! Those are some great links. He is not being sarcastic. Just when we were respecting him for his knowledge and truthfulness. Back in the time of never. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,10:50    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,06:20) UD--via Cornelius Hunter--has gone anti-vax. I think perhaps Dynese and Cornelius are entangled tardicles. It's good of him and unthinking commenters to link ID to such nonsense so mendaciously, especially now when the resurgence of measles is tending to swing opinion against the anti-vax menace. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,11:23    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,07:20) UD--via Cornelius Hunter--has gone anti-vax. I think perhaps Dynese and Cornelius are entangled tardicles. anti-evolution, anti-climate-change, now anti-vaxx...it would be more surprising if they said anything scientifically literate.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,12:13    From Corney's blog: Quote What is disturbing about mockers such as Kimmel is that they represent a strengthening tradition of delegitimization and dismissal of a group of people. This is a powerful and dangerous division. We’re not talking about spirited political disagreements. We’re talking about abhorrence and disgust. This is a much stronger movement, and it is not limited to vaccinations. A host of other, equally complex issues also fuel this irrational odium, including global warming, evolution and abortion. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,13:04    Corney comes out ot the closet: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-551800 Quote This can be an enormous burden. It is altogether normal, rational and understandable that a consumer would hesitate, question and perhaps decide not to assume that risk, and instead opt for the risk associated with not having a vaccine. Certainly you can argue against such a decision, but that is not what we are seeing. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,13:30    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,11:04) Corney comes out ot the closet: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-551800 Quote This can be an enormous burden. It is altogether normal, rational and understandable that a consumer would hesitate, question and perhaps decide not to assume that risk, and instead opt for the risk associated with not having a vaccine. Certainly you can argue against such a decision, but that is not what we are seeing. Crank magnetism rides again. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,13:51    I would not put anti-vax in the same pile as anti-abortion, AGW denial and anti-evolution. Anti-vax crosses political and religious lines. The worst offenders are the silicon valley elite. The most vaccinated states include Mississippi. I've followed a number of conservative sites and never seen a large, politically motivate anti-vax argument. It's all woo-based. The kind of folks who think coffee enemas cure cancer. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,14:03    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,13:51) I would not put anti-vax in the same pile as anti-abortion, AGW denial and anti-evolution. Anti-vax crosses political and religious lines. The worst offenders are the silicon valley elite. The most vaccinated states include Mississippi. I've followed a number of conservative sites and never seen a large, politically motivate anti-vax argument. It's all woo-based. The kind of folks who think coffee enemas cure cancer. Whhhhaaaa???! all that coffee, up there, for no reason!!!111 -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,14:26    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,11:51) I would not put anti-vax in the same pile as anti-abortion, AGW denial and anti-evolution. Anti-vax crosses political and religious lines. The worst offenders are the silicon valley elite. The most vaccinated states include Mississippi. I've followed a number of conservative sites and never seen a large, politically motivate anti-vax argument. It's all woo-based. The kind of folks who think coffee enemas cure cancer. It's more like GMO paranoia.  But although anti-vax is more common among the gluten-free yoga crowd, it's by no means all woo-based.   I found half-a-dozen libertarian anti-vaccine screeds in five minutes.  Then there's Mike Huckabee, Chris Christie, Ben Carson...  Even if they're pandering, they're assuming it's what their people want to hear.  And their people aren't pagan vegetarians. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,15:51    Yes. what I says was it crosses political and religious boundaries. Whereas AGW denial and anti-abortion and anti-evolution are largely tied to religious fundamentalism and political conservatism. Catholics may not be considered fundamentalists, but they do have an authoritarian basis for their creed. Religion makes strange bedfellows. American Jews are mostly politically liberal, but outside the US, there are lots of orthodox jews who deny evolution. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,16:08    Darwin Trolls:  Meet a genuinely antiscience group... Oh, good point, these are truly anti-science people.  Believers in Design of life, and despisers of evolutionary science. The similarities are, well, predictable. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,17:12    Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 04 2015,11:23) Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,07:20) UD--via Cornelius Hunter--has gone anti-vax. I think perhaps Dynese and Cornelius are entangled tardicles. anti-evolution, anti-climate-change, now anti-vaxx...it would be more surprising if they said anything scientifically literate. Have we ever seen their take on the moon landings? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,20:39    Quote (Glen Davidson @ Mar. 04 2015,16:08) Darwin Trolls:  Meet a genuinely antiscience group... Oh, good point, these are truly anti-science people.  Believers in Design of life, and despisers of evolutionary science. The similarities are, well, predictable. Glen Davidson Just the isis on the cake. I half expected Fudge --I mean Hunter -- to deny being anti-vax, but it seems like they have quite a few antis. I kind of like thinking of Cornelius as the minister of magic. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2015,14:53    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,20:39)   Quote (Glen Davidson @ Mar. 04 2015,16:08) Darwin Trolls:  Meet a genuinely antiscience group... Oh, good point, these are truly anti-science people.  Believers in Design of life, and despisers of evolutionary science. The similarities are, well, predictable. Glen Davidson Just the isis on the cake. I half expected Fudge --I mean Hunter -- to deny being anti-vax, but it seems like they have quite a few antis. I kind of like thinking of Cornelius as the minister of magic. To me, Corny will always be "Mr. Coloring Book" from his Thalycine Is A Wolf episode... which is probably the high point of his career BTW! Edited by J-Dog on Mar. 05 2015,14:54 -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2015,16:14    somebody who is less war-weary and PTSD than me could use Barry's dumb bullshit morality to create gedankenexperiments to show that if any action that kills an innocent person is immoral, then so is all war, all the time. Sadly, I don't have the energy, anymore, but it would be fun to watch.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2015,17:59    I tend to approve of the modern doctrine of going after leaders rather than civilians and common soldiers. Chess without pawns seems like an improvement to me. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,12:18    In the Gordon E Mullings tradition of being unable to accept or admit  he is wrong (Weasel! , Dreamy Rocks ), Zachriel now gives you 2LoT . -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Soapy Sam Posts: 659 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,12:55    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 06 2015,18:18) In the Gordon E Mullings tradition of being unable to accept or admit  he is wrong (Weasel! , Dreamy Rocks ), Zachriel now gives you 2LoT . The endless confusion of probabilistic approaches to statistical mechanics with the 'unlikelihood' of particular unknown polymer configurations. And we get a bonus red herring strawman quote. Again. -------------- SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,13:05    I've been trying to kick the Uncommonly Dense habit.  But this is just too awesome:   Quote 79 Box March 5, 2015 at 8:02 am   Quote Zachriel: Drawing ten straight flushes in a row from a fair, well-shuffled deck is not plausible (…) Indeed. And why is not plausible? Exactly because of the second law, which is all about probability. Nineteen minutes later:   Quote 82 Box March 5, 2015 at 8:21 am   Quote Zach: The odds of a royal flush are not an example of thermodynamics. True. However it’s totally irrelevant, because who said they are? You are not playing stupid with me now or what? -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,13:32    Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 06 2015,13:05) I've been trying to kick the Uncommonly Dense habit.  But this is just too awesome:   Quote 79 Box March 5, 2015 at 8:02 am   Quote Zachriel: Drawing ten straight flushes in a row from a fair, well-shuffled deck is not plausible (…) Indeed. And why is not plausible? Exactly because of the second law, which is all about probability. Nineteen minutes later:   Quote 82 Box March 5, 2015 at 8:21 am   Quote Zach: The odds of a royal flush are not an example of thermodynamics. True. However it’s totally irrelevant, because who said they are? You are not playing stupid with me now or what? Those who "do not read / will not link", do! 1. The entertainment is worth it 2. They have zero impact on science or education 3. *Now with broader science denial!* 4. If "St. Jesus' bible college of theology" gives them $0.0002 for my visit (through advertising), that's okay. I wont be attending it. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,13:35    Surprised he lasted nineteen minutes. Edited by Lou FCD on Mar. 07 2015,07:08

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,14:27    Quote (Woodbine @ Mar. 06 2015,11:35) Surprised he lasted nineteen minutes. POTW! -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,14:57    Quote (paragwinn @ Mar. 06 2015,14:27) Quote (Woodbine @ Mar. 06 2015,11:35) Surprised he lasted nineteen minutes. POTW! +1 -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,15:33    There needs to be a standard unit of tard. "J" might be the symbol. Box might have a value of 20 μJ. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,16:03    Like DaveScott before him, halloschlaf believes intelligence can violate his SLoT. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,16:41    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 06 2015,16:03) Like DaveScott before him, halloschlaf believes intelligence can violate his SLoT. Actually said intelligence transgresses the boundaries... -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2015,17:02    In case you were wondering: https://www.google.com/webhp?s....sco%2fi https://www.google.com/webhp?s....SCO%2FI https://www.google.com/webhp?s....SCO%2FI -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2015,14:05    Lewontin!

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