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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2015,22:46   

I was going to suggest that information is suggested by the shape of matter, but we all know size is the same as mass, so...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 28 2015,09:49   

The shape of things to come?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,09:27   

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Joe  March 4, 2015 at 9:22 am
Zachriel:

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With a refrigerator, it’s not ‘information’ that enters, but electrical energy.


So electrical energy cools?


Joe might be astonished that there are kerosene refrigerators that cool from a flame.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,10:27   

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Joe  March 4, 2015 at 9:22 am
Zachriel:

   
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With a refrigerator, it’s not ‘information’ that enters, but electrical energy.


So electrical energy cools?


Joe might be astonished that there are kerosene refrigerators that cool from a flame.

Reference please.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,10:31   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-551759

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,10:40   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,10:31)
http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-551759

Thanks for the link.  I was just mocking Joe's tendency to demand references for utterly googleable facts.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,10:40   

This is followed by a post from Enezio E. De Almeida Filho, who attempts to prove the advantage of technopoofery over reason.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2015,12:16   

I've always though the Hilsch Tube is pretty cool.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2015,08:06   

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Joe  March 4, 2015 at 9:22 am
Zachriel:

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With a refrigerator, it’s not ‘information’ that enters, but electrical energy.


So electrical energy cools?


Joe might be astonished that there are kerosene refrigerators that cool from a flame.

Or that information (Shannon entropy) doesn't do any work (increase Physics entropy).

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2015,11:38   

My wife's grandfather was killed in a tragic refrigerator explosion. Relighting a kerosene refrigerator. They were missionaries in India (now Pakistan).Fortunately for her, her father was already born.

Somehow that just seems almost Dembskiesque in its improbability.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2015,09:56   

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Joe, quit being retarded


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2015,19:25   

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March 11, 2015 at 8:53 am
Joe, quit being retarded

Trying to get a leopard to change its spots and all that. I think the thrill Joe gets from his behavior is too much to give up. Not saying it couldn't happen...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2015,19:34   

That would be sort of like a zebra changing its stripes...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2015,10:41   

YEC joey, IDiot-creationism's best and brightest (ROFLMAO):

https://www.blogger.com/comment....8728542

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2015,08:33   

Hey joey, you often push front-loading, and you say: "ID does not require any intervention other than to set-up the initial conditions." You also say that you're not anti-evolution*.

So then, you're a theistic evolutionist, eh?


*That's a lie of course.


I'm curious about something else too, joey. Since you're a YEC muslim and a world renowned expert in 'created kinds', will you please explain how the al-hinn, wa’l-binn, jinn, binn, hinn, at-tamm, and wa’r-ramm are classified in your islamist baraminology? And while you're at it, will you please explain how the ghosts and the aliens from other planets that you believe live among us should be (or are) classified?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2015,14:28   

On October 26th, 2011, YEC joey said:

"And BTW in order to even consider a design inference we must first eliminate your position! So eliminating your position does indeed support ID."

Hey joey, since you IDiot-creationists still haven't even begun to eliminate evolutionary theory, there's no reason to even consider a design inference, right? You'll be sure to point that out right away on your unintelligent blabbering blog and at UD, won't you?


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-406170  (comment number 40)


Bonus tard from joey for your enjoyment:

"As for centaurs- please reference the peer-reviewed paper that says centaurs are a no-go for evolution."  (comment 75, same thread as above)


"Yup as far as anyone knows whales are descended from whales. And no one needs to believe they popped into existence- tey could have been placed here by colonizing aliens or even genetically engineered…."  (comment 86, same thread)


"Designers have been observed to design stuff and from that we can extrapolate."  (comment 87, same thread)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,11:13   

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The schematic is shit- I can't tell what the blank blocks are.  I just assumed they were inductors and the "R" stood for reactance.

Find a properly drawn circuit and we can talk. Who the fuck uses blank blocks for components?


H is for reactance, Joe. The symbol for a coil looks like a coil.
100R is 100 Ohms. (R instead OF K, since K is for Kilo.) 220F would be a film resistor.

It is quite common in parts of the world to use a rectangle as a symbol for a resistor.

http://zpostbox.ru/g3_e.ht....3_e.htm

There is nothing wrong, or even particularly unusual about the diagram. But you knew that, because you are a hotshot circuit designer.

Now once again, What causes the circuit to oscillate?

Only losers use empty blocks as resistors. Only losers change the sign K and R.

What causes the circuit to oscillate? Electricity. Without it you don't have anything.

Look I told you it is a wein-type oscillator that is using transistors instead of op amps.

I have nothing else to say. You aren't anyone to challenge me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,11:14   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 18 2015,21:50)
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How do you know its 120 hz? I need to see how you made that determination.

Or just admit that you have no idea how science is conducted.

Because I said so. I don't care, you can do anything from 20-35,000 hertz... doesn't matter. The results are the same.

And yes, when you say something, the comment in bold for example, that you hold up as the explanation for your thoughts, you need to make bloody sure that you state all the conditions.

Or, you could just use the normal way of saying it. Wavelength = velocity/frequency. Instead of all the gibberish you usually put out.

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Frequency and wavelength are differing numerical representations of the SAME WAVE. Once you have one you have the other.


Is an incorrect statement. I have shown you why.

No Kevin, frequency and wavelength are  differing numerical representations of the SAME WAVE. Once you have one you have the other.

That is a fact and nothing you can spew will ever change it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,11:15   

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If all waves travel at the same speed, why do I see the lightning before I hear the thunder, Joe?  Enlighten us, O Guru!

I didn't say that all waves travel at the same speed.

But you said there's a one-to-one correspondence between frequency and wavelength*.  This can only be true if velocity is invariant.



* As I'm in a charitable mood, i'm going to disregard "frequency=wavelength" and just put it on the Big List Of Unbelievably Stupid Things Which Joe Is Too Pig-Headed To Retract.

There is a one-to-one correspondence between frequency and wavelength in any given context.

Ah, but that's not what you said is it Joe?

You said

wavelength = frequency

You didn't say

wavelength = frequency when everything else is constant (it's still not true because 520 nanometers doesn't equal 3.5 gigahertz anyway).

I'm pretty sure we have screenshots.

Here's a hint: The equal sign "=" does not mean 1:1 correspondence.  As you have been told many times and ignored.

Keep digging this is almost as good as the hail/water and a baseball can't be the same size as a rock because of density thing.

When I turn the frequency knob of a signal generator it changes the wavelength. That is all it changes.

By your logic the manufacturer doesn't know what it is doing.

You've moved the goal posts again.

You didn't say "for EM radiation at a constant velocity; wavelength = frequency"

You said "wavelength = frequency" (still not correct because the equal sign doesn't mean 1:1 correspondence)

You have all but admitted that the thing you actually said isn't true.

Now, if we only convince you that length isn't the same as time... you'll be as knowledgeable as most 2nd graders.

Kevin, You were NEVER part of the discussion so you don't know what I was saying.

But I was. So, please tell us about the discussion. And the context.

If you are having a hard time remembering, let me remind you. You claimed:

Frequency = wavelength.

No additional context. No qualifiers. No "everything else being equal". No "with constant wave velocity". No "in a single medium". No "only on Tuesdays".

Simply:

Frequency = wavelength.

You are lying, as usual.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,11:16   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 04 2015,09:27)
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Joe  March 4, 2015 at 9:22 am
Zachriel:

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With a refrigerator, it’s not ‘information’ that enters, but electrical energy.


So electrical energy cools?


Joe might be astonished that there are kerosene refrigerators that cool from a flame.

The electrical energy doesn't cool. If it did then all electrical energy would cool. The electrical energy runs things that cool. Huge difference.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,11:18   

Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 19 2015,14:28)
On October 26th, 2011, YEC joey said:

"And BTW in order to even consider a design inference we must first eliminate your position! So eliminating your position does indeed support ID."

Hey joey, since you IDiot-creationists still haven't even begun to eliminate evolutionary theory, there's no reason to even consider a design inference, right? You'll be sure to point that out right away on your unintelligent blabbering blog and at UD, won't you?


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-406170  (comment number 40)


Bonus tard from joey for your enjoyment:

"As for centaurs- please reference the peer-reviewed paper that says centaurs are a no-go for evolution."  (comment 75, same thread as above)


"Yup as far as anyone knows whales are descended from whales. And no one needs to believe they popped into existence- tey could have been placed here by colonizing aliens or even genetically engineered…."  (comment 86, same thread)


"Designers have been observed to design stuff and from that we can extrapolate."  (comment 87, same thread)

There isn't any evolutionary theory and evolutionism has eliminated itself by being unable to produce anything.

You don't have any entailments. You don't have any models. You don't have any testable hypotheses and you don't have any predictions. You don't even have a mechanism capable of producing what we observe.

You are just a piece-of-shit loser.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,12:51   

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If all waves travel at the same speed, why do I see the lightning before I hear the thunder, Joe?  Enlighten us, O Guru!

I didn't say that all waves travel at the same speed.

But you said there's a one-to-one correspondence between frequency and wavelength*.  This can only be true if velocity is invariant.



* As I'm in a charitable mood, i'm going to disregard "frequency=wavelength" and just put it on the Big List Of Unbelievably Stupid Things Which Joe Is Too Pig-Headed To Retract.

There is a one-to-one correspondence between frequency and wavelength in any given context.

Ah, but that's not what you said is it Joe?

You said

wavelength = frequency

You didn't say

wavelength = frequency when everything else is constant (it's still not true because 520 nanometers doesn't equal 3.5 gigahertz anyway).

I'm pretty sure we have screenshots.

Here's a hint: The equal sign "=" does not mean 1:1 correspondence.  As you have been told many times and ignored.

Keep digging this is almost as good as the hail/water and a baseball can't be the same size as a rock because of density thing.

When I turn the frequency knob of a signal generator it changes the wavelength. That is all it changes.

By your logic the manufacturer doesn't know what it is doing.

You've moved the goal posts again.

You didn't say "for EM radiation at a constant velocity; wavelength = frequency"

You said "wavelength = frequency" (still not correct because the equal sign doesn't mean 1:1 correspondence)

You have all but admitted that the thing you actually said isn't true.

Now, if we only convince you that length isn't the same as time... you'll be as knowledgeable as most 2nd graders.

Kevin, You were NEVER part of the discussion so you don't know what I was saying.

But I was. So, please tell us about the discussion. And the context.

If you are having a hard time remembering, let me remind you. You claimed:

Frequency = wavelength.

No additional context. No qualifiers. No "everything else being equal". No "with constant wave velocity". No "in a single medium". No "only on Tuesdays".

Simply:

Frequency = wavelength.

You are lying, as usual.

Nice try Joe. Unfortunately the evidence does not support this claim. You clearly stated that wavelength = frequency without any qualifications.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,13:10   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 26 2015,12:13)
What causes the circuit to oscillate? Electricity. Without it you don't have anything.

Four minutes later:

 
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 26 2015,12:16)

The electrical energy doesn't cool. If it did then all electrical energy would cool. The electrical energy runs things that cool. Huge difference.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,13:43   

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No Kevin, frequency and wavelength are  differing numerical representations of the SAME WAVE.


Let's follow that line of reasoning:

A and NOT A are differing representations of the same thing.
Therefore, A = NOT A

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,13:47   

Joe, what is the frequency if wavelength = 1 meter?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,14:55   

Sorry Joe, but today's meltdown was crap.  

I think we've got all the laughs we're going to get out of "frequency = wavelength".  It's time for a fresh slice of silly.  Your witterings about electrical energy and circuit design show a little promise, but you'll need to work on them a bit to reach the thigh-slapping hilarity of "ice is not water" or your staggeringly clueless take on orbital mechanics.

Must try harder, Joe.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,15:12   

Can we do "pyramid power" again? That was batshit tard and I don't feel we got good value out of it..

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,16:14   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 26 2015,09:18)
Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 19 2015,14:28)
On October 26th, 2011, YEC joey said:

"And BTW in order to even consider a design inference we must first eliminate your position! So eliminating your position does indeed support ID."

Hey joey, since you IDiot-creationists still haven't even begun to eliminate evolutionary theory, there's no reason to even consider a design inference, right? You'll be sure to point that out right away on your unintelligent blabbering blog and at UD, won't you?


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-406170  (comment number 40)


Bonus tard from joey for your enjoyment:

"As for centaurs- please reference the peer-reviewed paper that says centaurs are a no-go for evolution."  (comment 75, same thread as above)


"Yup as far as anyone knows whales are descended from whales. And no one needs to believe they popped into existence- tey could have been placed here by colonizing aliens or even genetically engineered…."  (comment 86, same thread)


"Designers have been observed to design stuff and from that we can extrapolate."  (comment 87, same thread)

There isn't any evolutionary theory and evolutionism has eliminated itself by being unable to produce anything.

You don't have any entailments. You don't have any models. You don't have any testable hypotheses and you don't have any predictions. You don't even have a mechanism capable of producing what we observe.

You are just a piece-of-shit loser.

Hey cowardly joey, are you on your way to Portland yet?

ROFLMAO at you.

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,19:45   

Oceania has always etc...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2015,20:29   

Joe has finally learned the word "entailment". Slow and steady eats the donut.

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