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phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:07   

Since the lying troll won't leave, I feel everyone should be informed that "john.williams" rapes babies and drinks their blood.

phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:07   

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>waldteufel:</strong>

One more thing, John, every German Wehrmacht (Army) uniform had a belt buckle
that was inscribed:  "Gott mit Uns".  Look it up.
</blockquote>

Point??


</blockquote>

The point is, as usual, beyond your feeble mind.  

You blamed atheism and darwinism for the Nazis.  It has been clearly shown that the Nazis banned the works of Darwin and publicly claimed to be inspired by god.  This shows your claims as the despicable slander they are.  

Once again, go fuck yourself, you lying troll.

phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:07   

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>waldteufel:</strong>

Our troll John Williams is not only scientifically ignorant, but historically ignorant as well.

Centuries of vitriolic Christian anti-Semitism are never mentioned by him.  

Jews were not exterminated for eugenic reasons, they were exterminated in an attempt to completely erase all traces of the Jewish people and their culture.  The Nazis cynically used the trappings and symbols of Christianity and some of the older Nordic pagan
religions.

The Nazis effectively fed and fanned the flames of hatred that were already burning in Christian Europe.  Ever heard of the Russian Pogroms, John?  How about the horrors of the Inquisition promulgated by the Church?  Christians burning witches?  Never heard of that either?  How about the murderous Christian fanatics that slaughtered countless innocents just because of their differences in dogma during the Thirty-Years War?
How about the Crusades, John?  Explain to us how Darwin caused them.  


</blockquote>

Again bad reading comprehension. Did I ever say Darwinism cause anyones death etc? Really poor reading comprehension.


</blockquote>

Actually, yes, you did:

<blockquote>
<strong>the lying troll wrote:</strong>
atheism leads to darwinism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany  </blockquote>

So yes, you DID say Darwinism caused deaths.  Unless you're also a Holocaust denier.  Which would invalidate your whole web of lies in itself.

phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:07   

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>phantomreader42:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

Darwins books were banned by the Nazis,

would love to see the source on that one.

what falsehood did I spread? are you reading OK?
</blockquote>

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA006_1.html

<blockquote>The Nazi Party in general rejected Darwinism and supported Christianity. In 1935, Die B?cherei, the official Nazi journal for lending libraries, published a list of guidelines of works to reject, including:
<blockquote>Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive <strong>Darwinism</strong> and Monism (H?ckel). (Die B?cherei 1935, 279) </blockquote>
On the other hand, an undated "Blacklist for Public Libraries and Commercial Lending Libraries" includes the following on a list of literature which "absolutely must be removed":
<blockquote>c) All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk. (Blacklist n.d.) </blockquote>
</blockquote>

But of course everyone here knows no amount of evidence will ever have an effect on you.  
</blockquote>

Rejecting Haekel: not a bad idea. Hitler admired Darwin. quit lying

</blockquote>

So, apparently "Darwinism" has nothing to do with Darwin?  You've gone beyond the realm of dishonesty, and completely divorced yourself from reality.

phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:07   

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>phantomreader42:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>phantomreader42:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

Darwins books were banned by the Nazis,

would love to see the source on that one.

what falsehood did I spread? are you reading OK?
</blockquote>

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA006_1.html

<blockquote>The Nazi Party in general rejected Darwinism and supported Christianity. In 1935, Die B?cherei, the official Nazi journal for lending libraries, published a list of guidelines of works to reject, including:
<blockquote>Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive <strong>Darwinism</strong> and Monism (H?ckel). (Die B?cherei 1935, 279) </blockquote>
On the other hand, an undated "Blacklist for Public Libraries and Commercial Lending Libraries" includes the following on a list of literature which "absolutely must be removed":
<blockquote>c) All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk. (Blacklist n.d.) </blockquote>
</blockquote>

But of course everyone here knows no amount of evidence will ever have an effect on you.  
</blockquote>

Rejecting Haekel: not a bad idea. Hitler admired Darwin. quit lying

</blockquote>

So, apparently "Darwinism" has nothing to do with Darwin?  You've gone beyond the realm of dishonesty, and completely divorced yourself from reality.  
</blockquote>


source for the Darwinism statement? you have very bad reading skills. (maybe I have to dumb down more but I thought I was sufficiently dumbing down already)



</blockquote>


You're the one who's too stupid to see a bolded word that you've been flinging around all day.  

You made the statement "atheism leads to darwinism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany".  this statement is false, and if you have a single functioning brain cell (which, in your defense, you probably don't) you knew it was false.

I posted evidence that Nazi Germany banned "Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive <strong>Darwinism</strong> and Monism"

You completely ignored the word "<strong>Darwinism</strong>", and claimed Hitler admired Darwin, without offering the slightest shred of evidence.  

Once again, go fuck yourself, you lying troll.

phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:10   

Go fuck yourself, lying troll.  

Eugenics predates Darwin by thousands of years.  Darwin's books were banned by the Nazis, but Martin Luther's "On The Jews and their Lies" was a major inspiration.  The same guy who founded the Lutheran church.  The official slogan of the SS was "God is with us".  

As usual, you live only to spread falsehoods.  

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

"Evolution leads to atheism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany."

you got it wrong:

"atheism  leads to darwinism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany "
</blockquote>

Dave Lovell

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:10   

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

"Evolution leads to atheism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany."

you got it wrong:

"atheism  leads to darwinism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany "
</blockquote>

So now we know John. You are worried that your faith is the only thing that stops you from becoming a genocidal maniac.

Wolfhound

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:10   

Let me add my voice to the chorus of "fuck offs" to Jacob/Preen/john.williams/insert sock puppet handle here.

What is your purpose?  Why do you hang out here?  Why do you fail to learn ANYthing?  Why don't you fuck off?  Surely there are some good, godly works you could be doing that might help the poor and down trodden.  You know, something christlike, perhaps, instead of repeating your same, tired bullshit creobot talking points over and over.

phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:10   

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

Darwins books were banned by the Nazis,

would love to see the source on that one.

what falsehood did I spread? are you reading OK?
</blockquote>

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA006_1.html

<blockquote>The Nazi Party in general rejected Darwinism and supported Christianity. In 1935, Die B?cherei, the official Nazi journal for lending libraries, published a list of guidelines of works to reject, including:
<blockquote>Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (H?ckel). (Die B?cherei 1935, 279) </blockquote>
On the other hand, an undated "Blacklist for Public Libraries and Commercial Lending Libraries" includes the following on a list of literature which "absolutely must be removed":
<blockquote>c) All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk. (Blacklist n.d.) </blockquote>
</blockquote>

But of course everyone here knows no amount of evidence will ever have an effect on you.

phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:10   

<blockquote>
<strong>Dave Lovell:</strong>

<blockquote>
<strong>john.williams:</strong>

"Evolution leads to atheism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany."

you got it wrong:

"atheism  leads to darwinism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany "
</blockquote>

So now we know John. You are worried that your faith is the only thing that stops you from becoming a genocidal maniac.
</blockquote>

I don't see that it's likely to do even that.  It's already turned him into a pathological liar.

phantomreader42

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:10   

FL, since you're obviously stupid, you're at a disadvantage when recognizing stupidity in others.  

O'Leary's publication of Mathis' confession shows him to be a petulant child, and undermines the goals of your fellow creationists.  It's good news for people who are actually concerned with the truth, but O'Leary is not one of those people.  This was an utterly IDiotic thing for her to do.  It hurts her cause, and makes the dishonesty of her allies ever more obvious.  

<blockquote>
<strong>FL:</strong>

<quote>Shows you how much OLeary is suffering from an acute case of verbal diarrhea. A more astute writer wouldnt post Mathis e-mail confession.</quote>

So you wanted O'Leary to <b>NOT</b> provide everybody with factual first-hand information regarding why Mathis did what he did?  You wanted her to cover up the confession instead of reporting it?

(You evolutionists get kind of confabucombobulated sometimes, no?)

FL    :)
</blockquote>

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,20:53   

They need one of these signs over at the Thumb:



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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,06:55   

Letters to the Editor from Bizarro World.

A moderately good crop the other day, thought I'd share the highlights.  There's more of each letter in the Jacksonville Daily News' LttE section at the link above.

Eugenia Parsons writes to tell us that Cindy Sheehan forced Congress to not love America, which is why we're losing the War on Terror.  She begins:
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This letter is to U.S. citizens, especially to those who love America and want to see her back to her rightful place among nations. All citizens need to take a good look, first at themselves and then at those for whom they vote. Their vote is critical to the government of our once-great nation. Every citizen needs to forget the party and, for once, choose our lawmakers by the lives they live. Our current members of Congress have completely forgotten what they were elected to do. Because of each one's selfish desire to fatten his or her billfold and to engage their own personal agenda, they have almost brought America's government to a halt because they cannot or will not tend to congressional business and work together for the good of our country. Very little is getting done because they will not help President George Bush fight terrorism overseas.


Elton Matheson teaches us Economics.  The Fed lowering the interest rate is the cause of high oil prices.  Oh, and why do we even need a President, anyway?

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If we do not get by this one, then health care, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, bridge to nowhere, NAFTA and the rest of the Robin Hood programs will just have to wait. Clinton, Obama, or the other guy - irrelevant! Why do we even need a president?

We are seven trillion in the hole - that's $7,000,000,000,000 - we are "all-in," "at the river" and the Saudis have the cards. Buy gold.


And rounding out the inning, Starr Davis teaches us how capital punishment is how we should value life.

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Why are the opponents of capital punishment so blind to the fact that when they refuse to exact this maximum punishment for crimes against humanity, they are actually devaluing human life?


If you ever need a good laugh or just an excuse to bang your head on your desk, there's always something there for you.



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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,07:35   

Competence just runs rampant in Washington DC.

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U.S. Capitol Police discovered the explosive device three weeks later when they returned with a search warrant to check the truck, which was in a government parking lot.

Terrance Gainer, the Senate sergeant-at-arms, told The Washington Post the device in Gorbey's truck, which was parked about two blocks from the Capitol, "could have caused serious injuries," if detonated.

Police initially searched Gorbey's truck in January and said there were propane tanks and wires but no immediate danger. They used a robotic camera to look inside the vehicle and a powerful water hose to destroy suspicious items inside.

Now U.S. Capitol Police are investigating how their bomb squad missed the bomb.


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“Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas?

Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
Lowell



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2008,00:01   

Off topic, but I didn't know where to post this. A quote from Leslie Nielsen (actor):

"There's an old saying that God exists in your search for him. I just want you to understand that I ain't looking."

Esquire Magazine, Apr. 08, at 142.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2008,01:49   

Uh, we did lose, or, rather, concede the "war on terror" when we took up the methods of the terrorists. Now all that's left is the "war on other terrorists". That goes on apace.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2008,10:20   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 28 2008,01:49)
Uh, we did lose, or, rather, concede the "war on terror" when we took up the methods of the terrorists. Now all that's left is the "war on other terrorists". That goes on apace.

.....Oh well; Don't worry too much, god is on both sides.

God bless you, and thank you very much.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2008,12:45   

FYI - A Lenny Flank sighting at Daily Kos this morning, on a thread that discussed MOONIES!!!

Those some scary -sounding crazies... and not just Di Fellow Jonathon "Moonie" wells.

WTF is the First Bush doing sucking up to "Father Moon?  And WTF was all that Coronation At The US Capital all about?

I wish I could figure out if it's good or bad to see that what we do here is part of a bigger scarier picture.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2008,13:42   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,21:53)
They need one of these signs over at the Thumb:



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Please, don't feed the troll, by capitrueno @ Flickr

Simply telling people to avoid the troll never ever works. As long as a small fraction of viewers want to aggressively argue with trolls it'll drown out everything else. To fix the problem you have to make it easy for the others to avoid the troll-related material. Say, have a selection like View Trolls / Hide Trolls, and have a few regulars empowered to mark subthreads with a Troll identifier.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2008,14:17   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 28 2008,11:42)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,21:53)
They need one of these signs over at the Thumb:



 
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Please, don't feed the troll, by capitrueno @ Flickr

Simply telling people to avoid the troll never ever works. As long as a small fraction of viewers want to aggressively argue with trolls it'll drown out everything else. To fix the problem you have to make it easy for the others to avoid the troll-related material. Say, have a selection like View Trolls / Hide Trolls, and have a few regulars empowered to mark subthreads with a Troll identifier.

How about combining this approach with a standing threat that repeated troll-responders will themselves be put on the shit list?

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There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2008,14:46   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 28 2008,14:17)
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 28 2008,11:42)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,21:53)
They need one of these signs over at the Thumb:



 
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Please, don't feed the troll, by capitrueno @ Flickr

Simply telling people to avoid the troll never ever works. As long as a small fraction of viewers want to aggressively argue with trolls it'll drown out everything else. To fix the problem you have to make it easy for the others to avoid the troll-related material. Say, have a selection like View Trolls / Hide Trolls, and have a few regulars empowered to mark subthreads with a Troll identifier.

How about combining this approach with a standing threat that repeated troll-responders will themselves be put on the shit list?

I like Dembski's methodology:  He calls Homeland Security and turns them in. *

Then they can troll Guantanamo.   Buena Suerte Amigo!

*  Should I cut down on the coffee?

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2008,17:40   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 28 2008,13:42)
Simply telling people to avoid the troll never ever works. As long as a small fraction of viewers want to aggressively argue with trolls it'll drown out everything else. To fix the problem you have to make it easy for the others to avoid the troll-related material. Say, have a selection like View Trolls / Hide Trolls, and have a few regulars empowered to mark subthreads with a Troll identifier.

I rather like the sound of that.  Surely it is possible with all the modern technology available nowadays?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2008,02:20   

Anyone else here play Desktop Tower Defense? I've played it for a couple of months and my strategery is not bad.


   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2008,02:46   

Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 28 2008,18:40)
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 28 2008,13:42)
Simply telling people to avoid the troll never ever works. As long as a small fraction of viewers want to aggressively argue with trolls it'll drown out everything else. To fix the problem you have to make it easy for the others to avoid the troll-related material. Say, have a selection like View Trolls / Hide Trolls, and have a few regulars empowered to mark subthreads with a Troll identifier.

I rather like the sound of that.  Surely it is possible with all the modern technology available nowadays?

Slashdot has a system like that. The posts there get a 1 rating to start, and trusted users can add rating points, and meta-trusted users can evaluate the trusted users, and trolling earns you negative points, and a visitor can select what level of comments he wants to see. So, for instance, if a post has 1,000 comments, it might have

comments / rating
1,000 -1
543 0
345 1
301 2
288 3
45 4
16 5

and the user preference allows you to see comments above whatever rank you choose. Years ago I set my Slashdot settings to 4, and haven't looked back. Really cuts down on the signal to noise ratio. I'm an advocate of using this kind of thing on PT/AtBC, but I'm not work-brickle (how's THAT for an obscure idiom!) enough to help them implement it here. But the advantage is clear. If you have, say, a post on how research on cat coprolites helps explain exactly when cats were first semi-domesticated, and FL puts up a post saying "Charles Darwin was a big cat turd", you can adjust your settings so that you miss the ensuing festival, and only hear the smart and funny people. At the same time, it weakens claims of censorship, because the comments are still available, just marked as stupid. It is kind of annyoing on PT that when a comment section goes ballistic, it is almost always as a result of a creationist saying really stupid things, and not as a result of smart discourse.

Edited by stevestory on Mar. 30 2008,03:50

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2008,14:27   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 30 2008,02:46)
It is kind of annyoing on PT that when a comment section goes ballistic, it is almost always as a result of a creationist saying really stupid things, and not as a result of smart discourse.

Yes.  This is why it is very hard to have a proper science forum, because few people have the knowledge to actually discuss some new and interesting science in an interesting way.  Hence a lack of replies, except to say "Cool", or "I never knew that".  
This is why all science related forums have a tendency towards pseudoscience, because vomiting it and cleaning up afterwards creates a huge amount of traffic and posts.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2008,21:10   

Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 30 2008,14:27)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 30 2008,02:46)
It is kind of annyoing on PT that when a comment section goes ballistic, it is almost always as a result of a creationist saying really stupid things, and not as a result of smart discourse.

Yes.  This is why it is very hard to have a proper science forum, because few people have the knowledge to actually discuss some new and interesting science in an interesting way.

http://evolutionanddesign.blogsome.com/2006....omments

Comment by Salvador T. Cordova, IDEA GMU ù August 3, 2006 @ 4:18 am

If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as ôvalidö:

1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses

#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analgous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results.

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Note my thread's response to 2,000 hits. Apparently  math has become a "new and interesting" science?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2008,10:06   

Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 30 2008,14:27)
   
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 30 2008,02:46)
It is kind of annyoing on PT that when a comment section goes ballistic, it is almost always as a result of a creationist saying really stupid things, and not as a result of smart discourse.

Yes.  This is why it is very hard to have a proper science forum, because few people have the knowledge to actually discuss some new and interesting science in an interesting way.  Hence a lack of replies, except to say "Cool", or "I never knew that".  
This is why all science related forums have a tendency towards pseudoscience, because vomiting it and cleaning up afterwards creates a huge amount of traffic and posts.


A proper science forum? Seems a long time since I saw much science on PT. But aside from that, I think it would be a good idea to have trollpost moved to Trollheimen. ("Home of trolls", a mountain area in Norway.)

There, us trollhunters instead of with a blunderbuss could go at them with a bazooka.


Current subjects on PT, March 21 – March 30:

Expelled Exposed: The Untold Sequel
SGU on Expelled
Guardian on Expelled: A step to the right
The Age of The Machine
We Were Invited to Expelled Conference Call
Julia Sweeney: Expelled and Ben Stein
Troy Britain: Expelled! The Movie Rip-off and the Event at Biola
Florida’s “Evolution Academic Freedom Act”
Irons v. McCreary on creationism
Taking Behe at his word
UcD: Clinton Dawkins: Guilty as Charged
The Economist: Where angels no longer fear to tread
Like “Expelled,” “Left Behind: Eternal Forces” had Net Buzz - So, Why did it TANK?
Intelligent Design Deployed in Kentucky
Expelled Exposed
Expelled!: A spoiler
NewScientist Blog: Are ID proponents being silenced?
Richard Dawkins: Lying for Jesus?
About that cell video in Expelled…
A homage to PZ
CBS13: Man Interviewed In Movie Not Allowed To See It
Dawkins and PZ Myers on ‘Expelled’
Luskin v Tree of Life: More Troubles in the Tree of Animal Life?
Phyloinformatics Summer of Code 2008
Allen MacNeill: Expelled from Expelled
Intelligent Design Movie Is Not for Heathens
Expelled gone missing from Santa Clara
GetExpelled RSVP
Pioneer Press: Biology prof expelled from screening of ‘Expelled’
NY Times: No Admission for Evolutionary Biologist at Creationist Film
Evolution of the Heart
Expelled!

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2008,10:39   

Looks like three of those are straight-up science issues. Of course, PT is mostly reactive to the content of antievolution efforts, so I'd expect quite a lot of socio-political commentary.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2008,06:42   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 28 2008,19:42)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,21:53)
They need one of these signs over at the Thumb:



 
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Please, don't feed the troll, by capitrueno @ Flickr

Simply telling people to avoid the troll never ever works. As long as a small fraction of viewers want to aggressively argue with trolls it'll drown out everything else. To fix the problem you have to make it easy for the others to avoid the troll-related material. Say, have a selection like View Trolls / Hide Trolls, and have a few regulars empowered to mark subthreads with a Troll identifier.

I quite like this idea.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2008,12:03   

Quote (IanBrown_101 @ April 01 2008,12:42)
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 28 2008,19:42)

Simply telling people to avoid the troll never ever works. As long as a small fraction of viewers want to aggressively argue with trolls it'll drown out everything else. To fix the problem you have to make it easy for the others to avoid the troll-related material. Say, have a selection like View Trolls / Hide Trolls, and have a few regulars empowered to mark subthreads with a Troll identifier.

I quite like this idea.

{gentle cough}

Ahem, Ian that links to a Rick Astley video. To say that the late great Bill Hicks and I agree in our estimation of the music of Mr Astley would be an understatement (trust me, good it isn't). I think you meant to link to something different.

Unless of course you are favouring an idea in which trolls are sent into some kind of nether hell where Rck Astley records are played at them non stop. In which case I like it.

A lot.

Louis

P.S. The problem with trolls and vociferous creationists that that both groups are comprised almost totally of asinine morons. This is a happily correctable condition, but to correct it engagement is necessary. Simply lumping them all together might make people miss those asinine morons who are curable. I like PZ's three strikes rule.

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