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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2015,18:29   

I caught the mouse! Last night, right after shutting off the computer and lights then went to bed I heard what sounded like the balancing plastic mailing tube hitting the floor. And it did alright, but the piece of electronic hookup wire holding the tube to the horizontal balancing rod was too loose so the tube slid right through the loop and landed flat on the floor, mouse escaped. I first assumed that would not try that again. But from the mouse's perspective the mistake it made was to not grab the peanut butter cracker sandwich before running out of the tube. So just in case the teasing critter wanted to try that again I set it back up, this time with almost no slack left in the wire. Just enough to hold the tube while tipping upright, then drop an inch or so to the floor from at least the force of their trying to jump out.

This morning I awoke to find the tube pointing straight up on the floor, with the mouse calmly waiting inside (certainly not in panic over the ordeal). It's now in a good sized plastic holding tank instead of running around the house all night while spreading fleas and who knows what that they bring in from outside.

The mouse is the right age to be one of the two babies that were eating a peanut butter cracker my wife gave to a chipmunk while I was working with someone out in the tracksite. They had no fear at all of me, just kept on eating while I sat right next to them. It seemed like I could have petted them, but just in case they thought my finger was food or carried something contagious I kept a couple of feet of distance from them. If that's one of them then it has since learned how to be sneaky. But never got good at it. They made themselves rather obvious. A day before I knew they found the longer cardboard tube (leading to the one that was balancing) from the amplified chewing noise coming though the other end of it, that's 6 feet from where I'm now again typing into the computer.

After having mentioned the mouse I had to follow up on our progress.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2015,19:08   

Quote (NoName @ Jan. 12 2015,09:28)
And where reading "scientist level science papers" trumps getting a second job so as to afford needed maintenance.
But that's our Gary.  The sky on his planet is thought to be the color of the odor of yellow.

I had a physical today and although chest x-rays, blood work and everything else is surprisingly OK the two abdominal hernias that should have been fixed by now have become moderately large. Any more responsibilities that make it impossible to take time off work for surgery and recovery may soon result in my guts spilling out, which from what I know can be immediately fatal. The dental situation that was caused by not being able to afford what I needed is less of a life threatening situation, while taking on another job on top of a now full time one that sometimes has me working late into the evening is only good advice from someone who wants me to as soon as possible drop dead.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,01:15   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 14 2015,03:08)
Quote (NoName @ Jan. 12 2015,09:28)
And where reading "scientist level science papers" trumps getting a second job so as to afford needed maintenance.
But that's our Gary.  The sky on his planet is thought to be the color of the odor of yellow.

I had a physical today and although chest x-rays, blood work and everything else is surprisingly OK the two abdominal hernias that should have been fixed by now have become moderately large. Any more responsibilities that make it impossible to take time off work for surgery and recovery may soon result in my guts spilling out, which from what I know can be immediately fatal. The dental situation that was caused by not being able to afford what I needed is less of a life threatening situation, while taking on another job on top of a now full time one that sometimes has me working late into the evening is only good advice from someone who wants me to as soon as possible drop dead.




Oh the pain .......the pain.

Gary you are nothing but a sniveling coward.

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,07:00   

Oh, let us not forget 'attention whore'.
'Drama queen' and 'pity freak' are in there, too.

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,14:00   

I could relate to Gary's medical problems, having had the ones he's mentioned. I don't know if Gary actually has a real, paying job, but I can confirm that the world is not kind to the self-employed.

I'm not sure that "let them eat caek" is a useful response.

Edit for spell better.

Edited by midwifetoad on Jan. 14 2015,15:25

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,14:32   

Sadly, there really aren't any useful answers left to give Gary.  He's been presented with all the answers that could possibly be useful and he's rejected them all.
If he chooses to "read scientist level science articles" rather than earn a living, at some point it's down to him and the utter failure of his life decisions.
There's really nothing he's done that hasn't been a fail, and mostly he's been stuck on epic fail for years now.
On the cold hard basis of his own "theory" he's either right where he wants to be or he needs to guess a new approach.
All the evidence suggests its the former rather than the latter that's driving him.  There's a huge 'martyr complex' inn with the 'drama queen' and the 'pity freak'.  They kind of mutually reinforce.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,19:54   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 13 2015,19:08)
Quote (NoName @ Jan. 12 2015,09:28)
And where reading "scientist level science papers" trumps getting a second job so as to afford needed maintenance.
But that's our Gary.  The sky on his planet is thought to be the color of the odor of yellow.

I had a physical today and although chest x-rays, blood work and everything else is surprisingly OK the two abdominal hernias that should have been fixed by now have become moderately large. Any more responsibilities that make it impossible to take time off work for surgery and recovery may soon result in my guts spilling out, which from what I know can be immediately fatal. The dental situation that was caused by not being able to afford what I needed is less of a life threatening situation, while taking on another job on top of a now full time one that sometimes has me working late into the evening is only good advice from someone who wants me to as soon as possible drop dead.

Gary, read the writing on the wall and reprioritize. Take care of yourself and your family, because your "science work" is clearly worthless.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,04:27   

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You are an annoying pest, to add to the mouse on the loose in the house that is smart to how the cage mousetrap works, was surprisingly able to with their feet wet with olive oil get out of an almost upright 1800mL glass boiling flask I lured them into with a peanut butter cracker that was bigger than its head, that it stole, and the balancing tube idea that gives it four feet to jump after tipping over from its weight isn't working either. I have a spring loaded snappy trap that would probably save me the finding them a new home when it warms up outside, but after getting to know them (before they escaped by chewing through plastic cage cover) it seems too cruel, even though they are as much of sneaky pest playing with my head as you are!


Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 13 2015,18:29)
I caught the mouse! Last night, right after shutting off the computer and lights then went to bed I heard what sounded like the balancing plastic mailing tube hitting the floor. And it did alright, but the piece of electronic hookup wire holding the tube to the horizontal balancing rod was too loose so the tube slid right through the loop and landed flat on the floor, mouse escaped. I first assumed that would not try that again. But from the mouse's perspective the mistake it made was to not grab the peanut butter cracker sandwich before running out of the tube. So just in case the teasing critter wanted to try that again I set it back up, this time with almost no slack left in the wire. Just enough to hold the tube while tipping upright, then drop an inch or so to the floor from at least the force of their trying to jump out.

This morning I awoke to find the tube pointing straight up on the floor, with the mouse calmly waiting inside (certainly not in panic over the ordeal). It's now in a good sized plastic holding tank instead of running around the house all night while spreading fleas and who knows what that they bring in from outside.

The mouse is the right age to be one of the two babies that were eating a peanut butter cracker my wife gave to a chipmunk while I was working with someone out in the tracksite. They had no fear at all of me, just kept on eating while I sat right next to them. It seemed like I could have petted them, but just in case they thought my finger was food or carried something contagious I kept a couple of feet of distance from them. If that's one of them then it has since learned how to be sneaky. But never got good at it. They made themselves rather obvious. A day before I knew they found the longer cardboard tube (leading to the one that was balancing) from the amplified chewing noise coming though the other end of it, that's 6 feet from where I'm now again typing into the computer.

After having mentioned the mouse I had to follow up on our progress.



Once again, Gary steps up the plate and adds complexity to a scenario more easily solved by a more simple and elegant solution.





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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,09:13   

I'm sure he can model that with some transistors and a few thousand lines of VB.  That would just be so much more sciencey, you know.
He could even graph the vertical acceleration of the mice against the volume of the canister as it gained more mice.
Labels would be superfluous.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,16:12   

Quote (NoName @ Jan. 15 2015,09:13)
I'm sure he can model that with some transistors and a few thousand lines of VB.  That would just be so much more sciencey, you know.
He could even graph the vertical acceleration of the mice against the volume of the canister as it gained more mice.
Labels would be superfluous.

And afterwards he would claim to have predicted the Ice Age and disproven Kinetic Molecular Theory.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,17:31   

From:
http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....y216034

Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 02 2013,18:51)
The usual mad-on for falsification, plus a bonus.  He seems to think that falsification is unnecessary because you can only use to prove false theories false.  This is similar to afdave's problems with the idea.  Gary doesn't seem to get that falsifiable isn't the same as false, and thinks it's better to just look for "incoherence" in ideas to tell whether they're true or not.  Some of us realize it's possible to write a completely logically coherent idea that is dead wrong.

Texas Teach just proved that they have been teaching what university level science educators now consider to be a "myth".

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Black_Rose - Thursday, January 15, 2015 2:45:00 PM
How about the myth of Popperian falsification?


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Laurence A. Moran - Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:58:00 PM
Yeah. That too.


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Joe FelsensteinThursday, January 15, 2015 4:23:00 PM
Popperian falsification is believed by many biologists to be the basis all inference in biology. But in molecular phylogenetics the data are a stochastic outcome of random processes. There is no outcome of the data that is absolutely impossible, no matter what the hypothesis. So the whole framework of Popperian falsification collapses.

The same is true in other disciplines, as long as there is some random noise in the observations.

Popperian falsification has, in effect, been falsified. Most philosophers of science know this, but many biologists haven't got the news.

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2015.......6378745

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,17:43   

Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 15 2015,04:27)
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You are an annoying pest, to add to the mouse on the loose in the house that is smart to how the cage mousetrap works, was surprisingly able to with their feet wet with olive oil get out of an almost upright 1800mL glass boiling flask I lured them into with a peanut butter cracker that was bigger than its head, that it stole, and the balancing tube idea that gives it four feet to jump after tipping over from its weight isn't working either. I have a spring loaded snappy trap that would probably save me the finding them a new home when it warms up outside, but after getting to know them (before they escaped by chewing through plastic cage cover) it seems too cruel, even though they are as much of sneaky pest playing with my head as you are!


 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 13 2015,18:29)
I caught the mouse! Last night, right after shutting off the computer and lights then went to bed I heard what sounded like the balancing plastic mailing tube hitting the floor. And it did alright, but the piece of electronic hookup wire holding the tube to the horizontal balancing rod was too loose so the tube slid right through the loop and landed flat on the floor, mouse escaped. I first assumed that would not try that again. But from the mouse's perspective the mistake it made was to not grab the peanut butter cracker sandwich before running out of the tube. So just in case the teasing critter wanted to try that again I set it back up, this time with almost no slack left in the wire. Just enough to hold the tube while tipping upright, then drop an inch or so to the floor from at least the force of their trying to jump out.

This morning I awoke to find the tube pointing straight up on the floor, with the mouse calmly waiting inside (certainly not in panic over the ordeal). It's now in a good sized plastic holding tank instead of running around the house all night while spreading fleas and who knows what that they bring in from outside.

The mouse is the right age to be one of the two babies that were eating a peanut butter cracker my wife gave to a chipmunk while I was working with someone out in the tracksite. They had no fear at all of me, just kept on eating while I sat right next to them. It seemed like I could have petted them, but just in case they thought my finger was food or carried something contagious I kept a couple of feet of distance from them. If that's one of them then it has since learned how to be sneaky. But never got good at it. They made themselves rather obvious. A day before I knew they found the longer cardboard tube (leading to the one that was balancing) from the amplified chewing noise coming though the other end of it, that's 6 feet from where I'm now again typing into the computer.

After having mentioned the mouse I had to follow up on our progress.



Once again, Gary steps up the plate and adds complexity to a scenario more easily solved by a more simple and elegant solution.




I did not want to give the mouse a concussion! Ouch!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,17:54   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 15 2015,17:43)
I did not want to give the mouse a concussion! Ouch!!

That's easy, just put 6 inches of water in the wastebasket.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,18:11   

Quote (socle @ Jan. 15 2015,17:54)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 15 2015,17:43)
I did not want to give the mouse a concussion! Ouch!!

That's easy, just put 6 inches of water in the wastebasket.

Yes, that would certainly soften the landing! But I doubt it could swim around in circles long enough for me to rescue them.

I also think that the mouse I caught would have been able to jump out of that pail. The high protein diet that it likely had while growing up might have helped make it unusually healthy and athletic.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,18:18   

How High Can a Mouse Jump? Watch This to See!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....gsCgyog

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,18:29   

I found an even better one!

NEW! - Bucket Trap Mouse Jumping Test - Will It Work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....IJipYP0

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,18:38   

"scientist level science papers"

ROFLMAO

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,18:45   

Glue traps. Make them suffer.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,19:13   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 15 2015,18:45)
Glue traps. Make them suffer.

It figures you would say that. So cruel.

I can also add to the mouse info: From what I found online I caught a (high jumping) "deer mouse", not a less athletic "house mouse".

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,19:22   

Folk wisdom suggests planting mint around your building(s).
Field mice are claimed to find it offensive, which is why you find mint growing around barns and grain storage buildings.

More advice Gary will ignore, or try to model with transistors and VB.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,19:25   

And for those who (in another thread) have been talking about UD having become dull and boring is this brief discussion that Graham2 topped off with comment #18, which is true for most who support the ID movement but not all.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-541958

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,20:52   

Gary at
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-541958
said,
 
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In my honest opinion the ID movement has to focus on scientifically testable operational definitions, not more metaphors.


and slightly later,
 
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For this premise to be “science” you are obliged to provide a testable model to demonstrate/explain how “intelligent cause” works. What do you have for me to test?


Of course this has nothing to do with our harping for hundreds of pages on how you need operational definitions and testable models (not sure about testable definitions, however), but what the heck, Gary, if you can now say this, why don't you produce operational definitions and testable models for your reeking pile of crap?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,21:46   

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Some of us realize it's possible to write a completely logically coherent idea that is dead wrong.

Like phlogiston, steady state, aether? Or some early notions of atomic structure?

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,21:57   

Quote (NoName @ Jan. 15 2015,19:22)
Folk wisdom suggests planting mint around your building(s).
Field mice are claimed to find it offensive,

I just checked again and we for sure have a common Western Massachusetts deer mouse, not field mouse:



Planting mint around the house would just make lawn mowing harder and add other house chores for something that's certainly not going to work in the middle of winter when the dried out half decomposed mint plants are frozen in under the icy snow.

But I now think I know why this winter there have been almost no spiders and centipedes crawling around the lab/basement, where the warmth of a space heater normally attracts them towards me.

Now I have to wonder about their possibly containing hantavirus:  
http://www.cdc.gov/hantavi....rodents  

It would be nice to have an inexpensive spray or something to put in their water that makes those who are infected turn a certain color, or rids them of diseases like that. Anyone working on it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,22:54   

Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 15 2015,20:52)
Gary at
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-541958
said,
   
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In my honest opinion the ID movement has to focus on scientifically testable operational definitions, not more metaphors.


and slightly later,
   
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For this premise to be “science” you are obliged to provide a testable model to demonstrate/explain how “intelligent cause” works. What do you have for me to test?


Of course this has nothing to do with our harping for hundreds of pages on how you need operational definitions and testable models (not sure about testable definitions, however), but what the heck, Gary, if you can now say this, why don't you produce operational definitions and testable models for your reeking pile of crap?

And you especially spend way too much time on metaphor driven preaching of your religion, Atheism, where all is revealed by rehashing a philosophy filled 1950's Darwinian pop-science that couldn't even get its retina biology right.

I have a testable model and scientific theory to demonstrate/explain "intelligent cause" and you have nothing even close to that. It's only expected that the religion you represent would have to deny the simple way the scientific process works. Denial is the only thing you have to keep on believing that ID has no science in it at all, when it certainly does now.

Oh and here's the link where I found the deer mouse picture:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.......Rodents

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,08:14   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 15 2015,23:54)
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I have a testable model and scientific theory to demonstrate/explain "intelligent cause" and you have nothing even close to that.
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No, you do not!
We've tested your model and it fails to admit certain features of the universe best explained by an 'intelligent cause'.
You have no 'operational definition' of either 'intelligence' or 'intelligent cause'.
You do not even have a method for identifying which are the 'features' of the universe that are 'best explained' by an 'intelligent cause'.
Epic fail on every single point.
And you have convinced exactly no one outside the voices in your head that any of what you assert is true.  You have no evidence, no supporters, no operational definitions, no ability to handle a wide variety of things widely taken to be results of intelligent acts, and only intelligent acts.
Your "theory" is incoherent, inconsistent, circular, and ultimately self-refuting when confronted with the adversity of facts.

And because you have none of these pre-requisites, and have been tested and found incorrect, we do not need a competing model.  "We don't know" is more informative and infinitely more honest than your effluent.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,11:08   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 15 2015,17:31)
From:
http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....y216034

   
Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 02 2013,18:51)
The usual mad-on for falsification, plus a bonus.  He seems to think that falsification is unnecessary because you can only use to prove false theories false.  This is similar to afdave's problems with the idea.  Gary doesn't seem to get that falsifiable isn't the same as false, and thinks it's better to just look for "incoherence" in ideas to tell whether they're true or not.  Some of us realize it's possible to write a completely logically coherent idea that is dead wrong.

Texas Teach just proved that they have been teaching what university level science educators now consider to be a "myth".

     
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Black_Rose - Thursday, January 15, 2015 2:45:00 PM
How about the myth of Popperian falsification?


     
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Laurence A. Moran - Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:58:00 PM
Yeah. That too.


   
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Joe FelsensteinThursday, January 15, 2015 4:23:00 PM
Popperian falsification is believed by many biologists to be the basis all inference in biology. But in molecular phylogenetics the data are a stochastic outcome of random processes. There is no outcome of the data that is absolutely impossible, no matter what the hypothesis. So the whole framework of Popperian falsification collapses.

The same is true in other disciplines, as long as there is some random noise in the observations.

Popperian falsification has, in effect, been falsified. Most philosophers of science know this, but many biologists haven't got the news.

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2015.......6378745

With respect to my last post and your reply, I second NoName's response, and emphasize that your nonsense falls far short of being a theory.

With respect to falsification, it has been standard for decades that some areas or endeavors in science do not proceed by falsification.  Nonetheless, you aren't in one of those areas.

Falsification remains critically important in many areas of science.  It is, for example, how geology got past biblical interpretations and why those remain wrong.  However, not everything in science hangs on falsification all the time.  One can usefully collect molecular data and perform phylogenetic analysis without reference to Popper ("let's see what our data shows about the relationships of whales, hippos, deer, and elephants?"), but if you are testing phylogenetic hypotheses (e.g. a test of the hypothesis that "according to molecules X, XX, and XXX, whales are more closely related to hippos than deer, elephants, or sea lions" versus the various alternative hypotheses), then one is statistically testing outcomes against hypothetical relationships and discarding the hypotheses that fit least well with the data.  This is a slightly weakened version of Platt's strong inference, but using abduction rather than falsification sensu stricto.  However, again, you aren't doing anything even remotely like that.  In contrast, you aren't ground-truthing your model, you aren't considering alternative hypotheses / explanations, and you are not especially attempting to model anything real or to demonstrate that what you are modelling is real.  You aren't making logically valid predictions.  You aren't supplying relevant supporting evidence.  You don't have operational definitions, or even regular definitions.  Your model doesn't even address the most important assertions in your reeking pile of not-a-theory.  Without those sorts of things, even if you happened to be 100% right (not that there's any chance of that), no one would accept your conclusions, no one could tell that you were right, and no one would pay any serious attention to your stuff.  It's just rubbish, Gary, so unless you are willing to do something scientific, give it up and go do something more useful for you and your family.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,15:26   

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Greetings, NotGuru, we meet again!

Perhaps a full disclosure of your real purpose is in order.  I present to you NotGuru's Agenda:

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I paint evolution (non-science) as faith ... because it is.
It's an absurd unsupported set of stories, based on the premise that there is no possibility of non-material causation. It satisfies a huge amount of self-centred god-haters, who've wanted nothing more than a decent excuse to pretend that there are no eternal consequences for their actions.

You still don't address any of the gaping black holes that I've pointed out.


I'm thinking this one is a Gary Gaulin clone, but super tard charged.  If you don't mind I'll duck out and get some popcorn.

Another asshole named "Doc Bill" has spoken:

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,15:45   

Ah, poor Gary -- clueless about what a colon is for.

Could this be part of why your guts are falling out?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,16:15   

Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 16 2015,11:08)
Falsification remains critically important in many areas of science.  It is, for example, how geology got past biblical interpretations and why those remain wrong.

If this were true (which it is not) then no scientific evidence at all for an old Earth ever needed to be presented, just a philosophical argument like "finding a rabbit in the Cambrian would falsify geology theory too" was all that was ever presented.

I'm shocked that a false-flag operation that is making a mockery out of science goes on and on and on while the so called science defenders go along with a warm and fuzzy scam that is taking them (and science) down.

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The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

   
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