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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2015,15:00   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Jan. 13 2015,15:38)
Yeah, I'm not going to try to replicate Joe's style. Terrified that it might be infectious.

That scares even the ebola virus.  Even zombies fear it.

  
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2015,20:43   

After all the fun with bombs and zero, UD is a little dull for the moment. Theology, "news", more theology, and an article by niwrad comparing cells to machines.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,03:10   

Quote (NoName @ Jan. 13 2015,13:25)
Because the deity's favorite creature is the beetle, in all its magnificent variety?
No less an authority than Pratchett seems to think so.

His fondness is inordinate, i.e. not just infinite, but uncountably infinite.

Um, might be best not to mention that on UD.

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,04:27   

ID isn't anti-god of evolution, and anyway there is no evidence for Haldane's Beetle-like god, assholes.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,08:09   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 14 2015,04:10)
Quote (NoName @ Jan. 13 2015,13:25)
Because the deity's favorite creature is the beetle, in all its magnificent variety?
No less an authority than Pratchett seems to think so.

His fondness is inordinate, i.e. not just infinite, but uncountably infinite.

Um, might be best not to mention that on UD.

I don't think they realize how funny that infinity business is. "Here's another area where my intuitions aren't considered the truth so it's rong too, just like evolution! No way I'm just a moron and some people understand shit i don't!"

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,08:33   

Quote (Driver @ Jan. 14 2015,05:27)
ID isn't anti-god of evolution, and anyway there is no evidence for Haldane's Beetle-like god, assholes.

Shut up monica barry! nobody akxed you!"

Meta-joke^3 rd power.

   
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,10:04   

News is on the job again!

This time it's an OMG! piece about a German paleontologist who committed fraud concerning Neanderthal / Human remains.  News is sure this will spell the end of the scientific evidence for human evolution.

History of man unravels in huge fraud?

Only problem is the story she's getting all wet over appeared in Feb. 2005.   :p

DeNews.  Sharp as a bowling ball.

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,11:32   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 14 2015,10:04)
News is on the job again!

This time it's an OMG! piece about a German paleontologist who committed fraud concerning Neanderthal / Human remains.  News is sure this will spell the end of the scientific evidence for human evolution.

History of man unravels in huge fraud?

Only problem is the story she's getting all wet over appeared in Feb. 2005.   :p

DeNews.  Sharp as a bowling ball.

These things are bound to happen to "journalists" whose research skills are googling: "Science and Fraud and 20152005"

Funny it isn't just her. Cornelius Hunter seems to have one for "Darwin and Surprise."  Dionisio is copy-pasting everything in the National Library of Medicine that says "unknown how...." in the abstract.....

Edited by REC on Jan. 14 2015,11:34

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,12:12   

Quote (REC @ Jan. 14 2015,11:32)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 14 2015,10:04)
News is on the job again!

This time it's an OMG! piece about a German paleontologist who committed fraud concerning Neanderthal / Human remains.  News is sure this will spell the end of the scientific evidence for human evolution.

History of man unravels in huge fraud?

Only problem is the story she's getting all wet over appeared in Feb. 2005.   :p

DeNews.  Sharp as a bowling ball.

These things are bound to happen to "journalists" whose research skills are googling: "Science and Fraud and 20152005"

Funny it isn't just her. Cornelius Hunter seems to have one for "Darwin and Surprise."  Dionisio is copy-pasting everything in the National Library of Medicine that says "unknown how...." in the abstract.....

And now over to the DeNews desk for another slow-breaking story!

No attempts at science there anymore. Just Drive-by apologetics by Barry that get ably destroyed by learned hand. It was more entertaining when they pretended to do science.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,16:01   

No attempts at science there anymore. Just Drive-by apologetics...

Hey, whatever keeps them off the streets and off drugs.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,16:01   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 14 2015,10:04)
News is on the job again!

This time it's an OMG! piece about a German paleontologist who committed fraud concerning Neanderthal / Human remains.  News is sure this will spell the end of the scientific evidence for human evolution.

History of man unravels in huge fraud?

Only problem is the story she's getting all wet over appeared in Feb. 2005.   :p

DeNews.  Sharp as a bowling ball.

Expelled! Someone tell UD Olds that that glass of tard liquor had been used as an ashtray by just about everyone while she was out of the room. (Was I supposed to warn her? I didn't know she's drink it.) :p

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,20:47   

DeNews continues to show those mad journalistic skilz

 
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Added further: Thanks to Learned Hand below for pointing out that the linked story hales from 2005.


"hales"   :D

DeNews kan rite gud!

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
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"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2015,21:06   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 14 2015,20:47)
DeNews continues to show those mad journalistic skilz

 
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Added further: Thanks to Learned Hand below for pointing out that the linked story hales from 2005.


"hales"   :D

DeNews kan rite gud!

Shame. She writes better than she reads.

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timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,00:08   

'Hales" is correct usage in that context, though probably colloquial. "To hale from" is synonymous with "to come from", at least in Australia. And News' work is still rubbish.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,03:13   

Quote (timothya @ Jan. 15 2015,08:08)
'Hales" is correct usage in that context, though probably colloquial. "To hale from" is synonymous with "to come from", at least in Australia. And News' work is still rubbish.

In Aussie bus stops used to have "hail driver" until Keith Moon marched up and down a bus there making the Nazi salute. Now it's signal driver.

Not that I'm a pedant or anything check hail vs hale

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,03:53   

"Hail from" is the proper phrase when you're talking about where (or "when", in this case) someone, or something, came from. The phrase was originally nautical jargon—ships were said to "hail from" New York, or Exeter, or wherever—and it crept into landlubber usage somewhere along the way. "Hale from" is UD News being careless. I expect she either didn't check it at all, or else just waved her computer's spellcheck over it and accepted the machine's "yep, no spelling errors here" not-judgement.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,08:00   

Quote (NoName @ Jan. 13 2015,14:30)
Missing only the 'darwinist materialist' taunt.  Kudos to you, sir or madam.
But I must object -- the words of the 'natural language' which spawns pig latin are not included in pig latin.  In a set-theoretic sense, of course.  Joe could clarify this if we could pry him away from his ticks.

Are you sure it wouldn't be a matter of prying the ticks away from Joe?

That could explain a lot.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,08:53   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2015,03:13)
Quote (timothya @ Jan. 15 2015,08:08)
'Hales" is correct usage in that context, though probably colloquial. "To hale from" is synonymous with "to come from", at least in Australia. And News' work is still rubbish.

In Aussie bus stops used to have "hail driver" until Keith Moon marched up and down a bus there making the Nazi salute. Now it's signal driver.

Not that I'm a pedant or anything check hail vs hale

Doesn't matter... neither one is made from water.

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,09:11   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 15 2015,09:00)
Quote (NoName @ Jan. 13 2015,14:30)
Missing only the 'darwinist materialist' taunt.  Kudos to you, sir or madam.
But I must object -- the words of the 'natural language' which spawns pig latin are not included in pig latin.  In a set-theoretic sense, of course.  Joe could clarify this if we could pry him away from his ticks.

Are you sure it wouldn't be a matter of prying the ticks away from Joe?

That could explain a lot.

They're the brains of the outfit, that's for sure ;-)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,11:27   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 15 2015,08:53)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2015,03:13)
Quote (timothya @ Jan. 15 2015,08:08)
'Hales" is correct usage in that context, though probably colloquial. "To hale from" is synonymous with "to come from", at least in Australia. And News' work is still rubbish.

In Aussie bus stops used to have "hail driver" until Keith Moon marched up and down a bus there making the Nazi salute. Now it's signal driver.

Not that I'm a pedant or anything check hail vs hale

Doesn't matter... neither one is made from water.

Maybe she was referring to Alan Hale Junior.


  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,13:38   

Barry has posted a new OP that demonstrates his skill at quoting out of context.

   
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Sometimes it is useful to highlight some of the more aggressively stupid things that materialists say:

Stephen B:
   
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How do you decide if the government has over-stepped its authority?


Aurelio Smith:
   
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In a democracy, you can assert it and see if anyone agrees.


Now, for anyone interested in AS' complete comment, in context:
   
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In a democracy, you can assert it and see if anyone agrees. In a democracy, you can protest and campaign for change. You can vote against a government you don’t like and persuade others to do likewise.


Not surprisingly, reading the comment in its context makes a difference.

Somebody has said something aggressively stupid, but it wasn't Aurelia Smith.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,14:25   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2015,13:38)
Barry has posted a new OP that demonstrates his skill at quoting out of context.

     
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Sometimes it is useful to highlight some of the more aggressively stupid things that materialists say:

Stephen B:
     
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How do you decide if the government has over-stepped its authority?


Aurelio Smith:
     
Quote
In a democracy, you can assert it and see if anyone agrees.


Now, for anyone interested in AS' complete comment, in context:
   
Quote
In a democracy, you can assert it and see if anyone agrees. In a democracy, you can protest and campaign for change. You can vote against a government you don’t like and persuade others to do likewise.


Not surprisingly, reading the comment in its context makes a difference.

Somebody has said something aggressively stupid, but it wasn't Aurelia Smith.

Barry Arrington quotemining, again? But... But... Objective morality!

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,15:01   

Richard Lewontin wins the Crafoord Prize.  No doubt Kairosfocus will be pleased.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,15:19   

Quote (Patrick @ Jan. 15 2015,15:01)
Richard Lewontin wins the Crafoord Prize.  No doubt Kairosfocus will be pleased.

And for disproving "isolated islands of function," no less.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2015,15:41   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 15 2015,14:25)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2015,13:38)
Barry has posted a new OP that demonstrates his skill at quoting out of context.

     
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Sometimes it is useful to highlight some of the more aggressively stupid things that materialists say:

Stephen B:
     
Quote
How do you decide if the government has over-stepped its authority?


Aurelio Smith:
     
Quote
In a democracy, you can assert it and see if anyone agrees.


Now, for anyone interested in AS' complete comment, in context:
     
Quote
In a democracy, you can assert it and see if anyone agrees. In a democracy, you can protest and campaign for change. You can vote against a government you don’t like and persuade others to do likewise.


Not surprisingly, reading the comment in its context makes a difference.

Somebody has said something aggressively stupid, but it wasn't Aurelia Smith.

Barry Arrington quotemining, again? But... But... Objective morality!

And on the original thread, Learned Hand takes a bite out of KairosFocus.

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I’m sorry KF, but you don’t seem to be having quite the same conversation as the rest of us. If you’d like to join it I’d be happy to discuss things with you, but your digressions are neither interesting nor significant to me. And for myself, I find your writing to be extremely turgid. I’ve asked a couple of times that you make an effort to make your points as clearly and succinctly as possible; I got more block-quote digressions, martyrdom claims, fishing anecdotes, and doomsday prophecies.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,15:53   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2015,15:41)
And on the original thread, Learned Hand takes a bite out of KairosFocus.

As long as LH has taken note of the Poul Anderson story where his character Nick van Rijn provokes a snappy alien baddie into taking a chunk out of his (van Rijn's) posterior, upon which said alien expires due to the incompatible biochemistry.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,18:17   

Didn't WJM admit somewhere he doesn't care what the truth is, only what maximizes his utility? Not in those terms, but I can't recall. Anyone remember where?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,20:19   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Jan. 16 2015,18:17)
Didn't WJM admit somewhere he doesn't care what the truth is, only what maximizes his utility? Not in those terms, but I can't recall. Anyone remember where?

I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy.

Learned Hand, I must commend you. Not only were your comments on Barry's "Unbroken" thread logical and well presented, they have pissed off the UD elite. And the take down of Mullings was worth the price of admission.

Barry has posted two additional OPs to try to salvage his lame opinion. But these have been nothing but personal insults. And, to top it off, he refuses to provide links to the threads that he is criticizing. To quote Barry himself, what a pathetic snivelling coward.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,20:40   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Jan. 16 2015,18:17)
Didn't WJM admit somewhere he doesn't care what the truth is, only what maximizes his utility? Not in those terms, but I can't recall. Anyone remember where?

Here are a couple places where he said more or less that.

This thread:
     
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I don’t care what reality is; I only care what I actually experience. I do things based upon patterns of experience; I don’t insist my experiences represent any reality “out there”, nor do I insist that my model represents “reality” or any existential “truth”. If this is all a dream or a hallucination, I don’t care.

Also here:
 
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In any event, the idea that Uri Geller can “fool” me, or that I”m “fooled” by any of the sources of information I’ve provided demonstrates that you’ve missed a salient point I’ve made over and over: I don’t hold any of that information as true. How can I be “fooled” that something is true, when I don’t hold that it is true?

I only care if something appears to work in my experience.

But whenever he is called on it, he claims his statement is being taken out if context somehow.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2015,21:54   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Jan. 16 2015,16:17)
Didn't WJM admit somewhere he doesn't care what the truth is, only what maximizes his utility? Not in those terms, but I can't recall. Anyone remember where?

Well, there's this from this thread:

"Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO “evidence” is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe?"

And there are at least these two threads where WJM expresses his opinions about 'truth':

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....o....omments

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....rselves


ETA: This thread also contains a lot of WJM's opinions about 'truth':

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....o....omments

ETA: Oops, I just saw that socle already posted a link to that thread.

Edited by The whole truth on Jan. 17 2015,13:33

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