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| Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 30 2009,13:47) | | Quote (socle @ Aug. 30 2009,14:22) | Learned Hand destroys ID's "crime scene analogy":
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The murder of one human being by another with a knife is a known phenomenon, unlike the proposed phenomenon of design.
Not only the act itself, but also the various methods by which the act was accomplished. MEs don’t ask just “was a murder committed,” but rather, “how did this person die?” An ME’s report that could not connect the cause of death with the proposed method of murder would not be credible in court, or otherwise. This makes it a poor analogy to ID, which rejects any attempt to analyze the methods and techniques of design.
A more analogous situation, although still strained, would be a mathematician or computer scientist arriving at an incident scene that has already been thoroughly studied and well-documented by trained professionals, who unanimously concluded that death was by natural causes. Having given the scene a cursory examination, the new arrival declares that the death could not possibly have occurred by natural causes, but that she has no idea how the murder was committed, and she will not attempt to find out. Moreover, she announces, the investigators who preceded her are moral monsters whose materialism caused the Holocaust. Few professionals would take this conclusion seriously.
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lurve it.
Also Barry Airhead:
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Barry Arrington
08/30/2009
11:35 am
Dawkins has slipped badly here by inviting his readers to consider the crime scene analogy. That analogy plays right into the hands of ID. The police detective’s essential task it to detect the presence or absence of design.
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Yeah, and they show up at the scene, look around for a second and say, "Yup, murder" and go to the pub and have a brew.
Oh wait, that's what they'd do if they were IDC cops, not actual cops. Actual cops would probably, y'know, look at the evidence in a bit more detail, base their conclusions on that evidence, and if the evidence supports the idea that there was in fact a murder, they'd then figure out how and by whom the murder occurred.
Y'know, all those things that cdesign proponentsists refuse to do.
IDCists are masters of shooting themselves in the dick with lousy analogies. |
They shoot themselves in the foot with their dick?
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