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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,09:45   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 12 2012,07:29)
                   
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 12 2012,04:40)
It should be about arguments, not personalities or behaviour.

oh, that window closed long long long ago, judge jones

Aye ... but one can aspire to Higher Ground. Henceforth I won't let personalities get in the way, and will make sure I home in on the character flaws of anyone who does. And I'll only debate people who - after a succession of lengthy exchanges - I determine to be not worth my time debating.  

Anyway you AtBC-ers are all very very immature and I condemn you absolutely. Consider yourselves condemned. I will not stand idly by yadda yadda yadda. The veracity of evolutionary theory is at stake. If you keep misbehavin' it might make it wrong. Can't ya see?

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SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G

BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,11:16   

What's wrong with this picture? arrington is bitching about an alleged lack of freedom of speech (for christians), yet look at his draconian moderation at UD. He obviously doesn't like gay people either, and of course wants to legislate away any freedoms for them and anyone else he doesn't approve of.  

arrington farted:

"I am currently reading Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg, in which he makes a strong case that liberalism (modern liberalism, not classical liberalism) should be placed on the same pole of the political spectrum as fascism, not the opposite pole as is commonly done, because there is a strong authoritarian/totalitarian streak running through modern liberalism/progressivism.

Ironically, those liberals and progressives who agitate most strongly for “personal autonomy”
when they are pushing for special civil rights protections for persons engaging in deviant sexual behavior,
really only believe in personal autonomy for their friends. If you try to express views counter to theirs, they will use every means at their disposal to silence you.

Witness the so-called civil rights commissions in your country, which have effectively made it a crime to teach certain parts of the Christian scriptures."

insane prudish tard

And speaking of "authoritarian/totalitarian", look at a mirror, and at your fellow religious zombies, barry.

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,11:21   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 12 2012,09:45)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 12 2012,07:29)
                   
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 12 2012,04:40)
It should be about arguments, not personalities or behaviour.

oh, that window closed long long long ago, judge jones

Aye ... but one can aspire to Higher Ground. Henceforth I won't let personalities get in the way, and will make sure I home in on the character flaws of anyone who does. And I'll only debate people who - after a succession of lengthy exchanges - I determine to be not worth my time debating.  

Anyway you AtBC-ers are all very very immature and I condemn you absolutely. Consider yourselves condemned. I will not stand idly by yadda yadda yadda. The veracity of evolutionary theory is at stake. If you keep misbehavin' it might make it wrong. Can't ya see?

Let us join our voices together on that thought, so that The Argument Regarding Design can be engaged absent the red herrings led away to strawmen soaked in ad hominems and ignited through snidely or crudely incendiary rhetoric to cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere.

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You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

   
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,12:28   

Quote (REC @ Feb. 11 2012,19:54)
Watching from a distance might be more fun:

From KF-
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ES; If you have done any significant experimental work, you will know that we routinely trichotomise observed effects, on investigator intervention, random scatter and laws of necessity, just for one instance.


1) KF has done significant experimental work?
2) WTF is "trichotomise?" Is that like lobotimize X3? Or one more than a dichotomy?
3) How does one 'intervene' with a 'law of necessity?" The only use I know of for law of necessity is legal/ethical in terms of self-preservation

Random paragraph generator?

In response to number 1: NO.

I've done some serious digging to see if gordo has ever done anything besides spewing dictatorial sermons and condemning atheists/evolutionary materialists/methodological naturalists, etc., and I've found just one thing that he was involved in in any way. It's just a very basic outline for the next several years that the government of Montserrat drew up a couple of years ago and it has a list of contributors at the end and gordo is listed as a "consultant". Frankly, I think that they were just being nice by adding his name and that "consultant" sounded better than 'irritating, obnoxious, meddling asshole'.

If he were anywhere near as important as he thinks and says he is there would be papers, projects, plans, etc., that would have his name in them. I've looked at Montserrat and Jamaica government records, government employees, science projects in those countries, projects that have to do with the volcano and the environment in Montserrat, engineering and construction projects in Montserrat and Jamaica, and all kinds of other stuff including, but not limited to, the names of business owners, other business directories, phone books, and all of the news outlets, websites, and forums that pertain to Montserrat and other Caribbean Islands. He's virtually a ghost, except on some blogs where he has puked up tons of convoluted vomit.

I don't believe that he even has a job as a janitor, let alone a job of any kind in science. He also likes to call himself a physicist, yet he has no track record in that either. From what I've seen, I think that he must get his money from fleecing gullible sheeple, and/or from welfare. Chances are, he gets disability payments because he's way too aggravating and mentally deranged to be hired by anyone.

gordo is a phony baloney liar and bullshitter, and is nowhere near being a scientist or physicist. All he does is sit in his basement and spew his bile on the internet. And it's likely his mom's basement.

By the way, in case anyone is wondering, Montserrat has a population of about 4500 people. That's for the whole island. If gordo were prominent there, his name would be prominent there.

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,12:32   

Quote (Zachriel @ Feb. 12 2012,09:21)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 12 2012,09:45)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 12 2012,07:29)
                     
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 12 2012,04:40)
It should be about arguments, not personalities or behaviour.

oh, that window closed long long long ago, judge jones

Aye ... but one can aspire to Higher Ground. Henceforth I won't let personalities get in the way, and will make sure I home in on the character flaws of anyone who does. And I'll only debate people who - after a succession of lengthy exchanges - I determine to be not worth my time debating.  

Anyway you AtBC-ers are all very very immature and I condemn you absolutely. Consider yourselves condemned. I will not stand idly by yadda yadda yadda. The veracity of evolutionary theory is at stake. If you keep misbehavin' it might make it wrong. Can't ya see?

Let us join our voices together on that thought, so that The Argument Regarding Design can be engaged absent the red herrings led away to strawmen soaked in ad hominems and ignited through snidely or crudely incendiary rhetoric to cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere.

But what fun would that be?  ;)

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
Raevmo



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,13:36   

Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 12 2012,12:28)
 
Quote (REC @ Feb. 11 2012,19:54)
Watching from a distance might be more fun:

From KF-
   
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ES; If you have done any significant experimental work, you will know that we routinely trichotomise observed effects, on investigator intervention, random scatter and laws of necessity, just for one instance.


1) KF has done significant experimental work?
2) WTF is "trichotomise?" Is that like lobotimize X3? Or one more than a dichotomy?
3) How does one 'intervene' with a 'law of necessity?" The only use I know of for law of necessity is legal/ethical in terms of self-preservation

Random paragraph generator?

In response to number 1: NO.

I've done some serious digging to see if gordo has ever done anything besides spewing dictatorial sermons and condemning atheists/evolutionary materialists/methodological naturalists, etc., and I've found just one thing that he was involved in in any way. It's just a very basic outline for the next several years that the government of Montserrat drew up a couple of years ago and it has a list of contributors at the end and gordo is listed as a "consultant". Frankly, I think that they were just being nice by adding his name and that "consultant" sounded better than 'irritating, obnoxious, meddling asshole'.

If he were anywhere near as important as he thinks and says he is there would be papers, projects, plans, etc., that would have his name in them. I've looked at Montserrat and Jamaica government records, government employees, science projects in those countries, projects that have to do with the volcano and the environment in Montserrat, engineering and construction projects in Montserrat and Jamaica, and all kinds of other stuff including, but not limited to, the names of business owners, other business directories, phone books, and all of the news outlets, websites, and forums that pertain to Montserrat and other Caribbean Islands. He's virtually a ghost, except on some blogs where he has puked up tons of convoluted vomit.

I don't believe that he even has a job as a janitor, let alone a job of any kind in science. He also likes to call himself a physicist, yet he has no track record in that either. From what I've seen, I think that he must get his money from fleecing gullible sheeple, and/or from welfare. Chances are, he gets disability payments because he's way too aggravating and mentally deranged to be hired by anyone.

gordo is a phony baloney liar and bullshitter, and is nowhere near being a scientist or physicist. All he does is sit in his basement and spew his bile on the internet. And it's likely his mom's basement.

By the way, in case anyone is wondering, Montserrat has a population of about 4500 people. That's for the whole island. If gordo were prominent there, his name would be prominent there.

I believe Gordon really does have an MSc in physics from some Jamaican university. I once Googled him and found a link to his thesis - something about a multi-channel device of some kind if memory serves. He is obviously crazy but he is not entirely unintelligent. A bit like Hitler if you like.

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After much reflection I finally realized that the best way to describe the cause of the universe is: the great I AM.

--GilDodgen

  
BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,14:22   

Update on the LNC thread:
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Further update: Eigenstate has run for cover.
The genesis of this post was the StephenB’s accusation that eigenstate refused to concede the law of noncontradiction: “For you [i.e.,eigenstate], the law of non-contradiction is a “useful tool” except on those occasions when it reveals the poverty of your non-arguments, at which time, it can be safely discounted. That position alone renders you unfit for rational dialogue.”

Surely not, I thought to myself. No one can argue logically and at the same time ever deny the law of noncontradiction, because the law of noncontradiction underlies ALL logical arguments. So I put this post up to give eigenstate a chance to refute StephenB’s accusation. I know eigenstate came back onto this site after I put up this post, because he commented on another string after this post went up. Yet he refused to answer the question. I can only conclude from this that StephenB is correct. Eigenstate and his ilk are not acting in good faith. They feel free to spew their nonsense, but when they are confronted with a challenge they cannot meet they run away. He is not, as StephenB points out, fit for rational dialogue, and you will not see him on this site again.

no. words.

The problem for you Barry, is that you cant (yet) censor the internet, so eigenstates reply is available for all to see, and clearly demonstrates that you are a bare faced liar.

  
Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,14:23   

Quote (eigenstate @ Feb. 12 2012,00:01)
My post to Barry, which I suspect may not be preserved over there, given the current dynamics:
       
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Theoretically, yes. In practice, the probabilities are so vanishingly small it's indistinguishable from no.

<snip>


Predictably, and disgustingly, cowardly Barry claims eigenstate has not responded and bans him.  
 
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Further update: Eigenstate has run for cover.The genesis of this post was the StephenB’s accusation that eigenstate refused to concede the law of noncontradiction: “For you [i.e.,eigenstate], the law of non-contradiction is a “useful tool” except on those occasions when it reveals the poverty of your non-arguments, at which time, it can be safely discounted. That position alone renders you unfit for rational dialogue.”

Surely not, I thought to myself. No one can argue logically and at the same time ever deny the law of noncontradiction, because the law of noncontradiction underlies ALL logical arguments. So I put this post up to give eigenstate a chance to refute StephenB’s accusation. I know eigenstate came back onto this site after I put up this post, because he commented on another string after this post went up. Yet he refused to answer the question. I can only conclude from this that StephenB is correct. Eigenstate and his ilk are not acting in good faith. They feel free to spew their nonsense, but when they are confronted with a challenge they cannot meet they run away. He is not, as StephenB points out, fit for rational dialogue, and you will not see him on this site again.

What a P.O.S.  Perhaps someone (if any) left posting in the echo chamber can point back to eigenstate's post and correct prediction at the "fever swamp" here.

Regarding the final sentence: I wouldn't bet on that, Barry.

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Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.
Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,14:32   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 11 2012,21:07)
groovamos tried scientific materialism, but gave it up on account of the "pointless sex":
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Twice in my life I subscribed to scientific materialism, it is just too sexy an option for most young students to pass up. Literally, as in those circles, they’re just so besotted by the easy sex. That was the first time, and when that backfired I backed out of it, only to be bamboozled a few years later in SoCal because it was just so easy to fall into again out there. But a few years of living in a “pointless” universe full of pointless sex ground down my being a little too much for comfort.

I see the outlines of a Joel Borofsky hoo-hoo fixation.

Or Portnoy.

Sour grapes, I'm guessing. Even in the non-stop musical beds orgy that is college, he couldn't get any.

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"[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory

"Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,14:32   

Wow. Now BarryA is issuing banninations for things we DON'T say.

Well, I've got just one thing to say to you, Barry.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,14:33   

BTW, with that, this has become the best meltdown EVAR.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,14:38   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 12 2012,20:33)
BTW, with that, this has become the best meltdown EVAR.

Agreed, I haven't had so much fun not being on UD ever!

And the best bit it, it is all preserved on teh interwebs for the serious onlooker to view forevar!

gun. foot. fire!

  
Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,14:47   

I knew when Dense linked to the Daily Mail it was going to be like pouring petrol on a fire ...

Axel:
   
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Incidentally, it takes many forms. Apprently, there are 450 public employees at present working on legislating for hospital staff to be forbidden to use the terms, ‘mother’ and ‘father’, for fear of offending the sensibilities of homosexuals.

 
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I should have said, ‘militant’ homosexuals. There is a difference between them and most homosexuals, I believe.

 
Quote
Also, in your dismissiveness, you forgot the primary-school children raping and sodomising their little class-mates.

In today’s papers, two young women, each with a baby sired by the young man in the middle of the photo. We’ll leave their sexuality out of it, since there is no arguing with homosexual lobbyists, however “ad hoc”. The immemorial wisdom of nature’s nuclear family is despised by today’s atheist know-nothings.

Some other odd views in his ramblings as well.

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Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.
Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
eigenstate



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,15:09   

LNC thread
 
Quote
Further update: Eigenstate has run for cover.
The genesis of this post was the StephenB’s accusation that eigenstate refused to concede the law of noncontradiction: “For you [i.e.,eigenstate], the law of non-contradiction is a “useful tool” except on those occasions when it reveals the poverty of your non-arguments, at which time, it can be safely discounted. That position alone renders you unfit for rational dialogue.”

Surely not, I thought to myself. No one can argue logically and at the same time ever deny the law of noncontradiction, because the law of noncontradiction underlies ALL logical arguments. So I put this post up to give eigenstate a chance to refute StephenB’s accusation. I know eigenstate came back onto this site after I put up this post, because he commented on another string after this post went up. Yet he refused to answer the question. I can only conclude from this that StephenB is correct. Eigenstate and his ilk are not acting in good faith. They feel free to spew their nonsense, but when they are confronted with a challenge they cannot meet they run away. He is not, as StephenB points out, fit for rational dialogue, and you will not see him on this site again.

Well, that's Barry for ya. Is anyone surprised?

Ran away, heh. For all the frustration of that kind of childishness from Barry, there's something, something similar to schadenfreude, that's gratifying in a situation like this. I guess there's some payoff in just knowing that Barry chooses to debase himself like that in such situations. And he knows that I know that he's had to be a shit to deal with this. It would be better, overall, if he'd just engage on the merits, but in the absence of that...

It was a good, short run, and ended just as I predicted here, previously.

@Reciprocating Bill, I did post a reply to StephenB last night with a couple friendly reminders on the original thread where we went at it regarding LNC, but I don't see the post there this morning. Other posts to nullasalus and mike1962 went through, so, dunno what happened. Maybe StephenB has special defenses in place from coward like me, now. You never know when you might need to make your opponent run away...

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,15:11   

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Arrington: I am currently reading Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg, in which he makes a strong case that liberalism (modern liberalism, not classical liberalism) should be placed on the same pole of the political spectrum as fascism

Arrington does not like liberals? And he's an American Christian? And he denies Global Warming? I am shocked. Shocked, I say. That such disparate points of view should find themselves combined in the one human being is utterly unheard of. Wonder what he thinks of gays.

(yes, Baz, I am aware of the irony).

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SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G

BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,15:50   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 12 2012,15:33)
BTW, with that, this has become the best meltdown EVAR.



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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,15:51   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 12 2012,15:32)
Wow. Now BarryA is issuing banninations for things we DON'T say.

Well, I've got just one thing to say to you, Barry.

POTW!



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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,15:53   

@eigenstate,

Odder than Odd Jock McOdd. He could just ban you, without spending a couple of paragraphs drumming up a reason! To the disinterested observer, the only 'incriminating' factor seems to be that you were spotted at UD and DID NOT reply to this (fucking arcane) question about superposition and Jupiter, and therefore cannot say you were at your mum's. But why you would post that you had responded, then not ... Wouldn't be like a lawyer to twist things to suit the argument though, would it?

I AM BARRY, HEAR ME ROAR! You WILL answer my question (and no answer will not suffice; you cannot answer it and not-answer it at the same time).

Meh. It is their bat, ball and pitch, I guess.

Good work, BTW. It's not just that I tend to agree with you, but that you are very readable and clear. Ironically, one of the UD-ers who is reasonably readable and clear is Baz A himself.

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SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G

BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,16:23   

Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 12 2012,14:47)
I knew when Dense linked to the Daily Mail it was going to be like pouring petrol on a fire ...

Axel:
   
Quote
Incidentally, it takes many forms. Apprently, there are 450 public employees at present working on legislating for hospital staff to be forbidden to use the terms, ‘mother’ and ‘father’, for fear of offending the sensibilities of homosexuals.

   
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I should have said, ‘militant’ homosexuals. There is a difference between them and most homosexuals, I believe.

   
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Also, in your dismissiveness, you forgot the primary-school children raping and sodomising their little class-mates.

In today’s papers, two young women, each with a baby sired by the young man in the middle of the photo. We’ll leave their sexuality out of it, since there is no arguing with homosexual lobbyists, however “ad hoc”. The immemorial wisdom of nature’s nuclear family is despised by today’s atheist know-nothings.

Some other odd views in his ramblings as well.

Axel I think claims to be a guy I ran into on DemocraticUnderground: KCabotDullesMarxIII.

A very odd guy with a very odd set of views.

  
paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:04   

Apparently, some onlookers such as myself have been banned as well since Friday.

eta: well, okay, maybe i said something or two.

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

  
Mindrover



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:05   

At this point, they should just use "???? " for their captcha and be done with it.

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:05   

I love UD

i am going to miss it when it is gone

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Mindrover



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:08   

Well, crackers. Here I go and try to be witty, only to fall flat.

The above ???? was the hebrew word shibboleth (I used preview and everything).

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:31   

Barry metaphorically kicks Jupiter

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:35   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 12 2012,18:31)
Barry metaphorically kicks Jupiter

what a moron

i would bet joes virginity that barry doesn't know WTF is a probability distribution

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:47   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 12 2012,18:31)
Barry metaphorically kicks Jupiter

Holy shit. Now he's actually banned Jupiter.

You won't see Jupiter posting there anymore.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:52   

Barry draws a crucial distinction.

Petrushka vis Eigenstate:
 
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Since he has been banned it will be difficult for him to re-post.

Barry points out the obvious:
 
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P, I would modify that to “Since he has been banned it would be difficult for him to post.”

Got that?

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:52   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 12 2012,15:31)
Barry metaphorically kicks Jupiter

Not surprisingly,  Barry thinks Johnson's 'refutation' of Berkeley was good logic when it actually was one of Johnson's low points as a thinker.  To Berkeley, the rock, the shoe, the leg, the kick, and the 'refutation' are all mental constructs and thus fit nicely into the idealist model.  Rather than refuting idealism, Johnson gets swallowed up by it.  

For the record, I'm not an idealist, but I tire of hearing that story cited as if it were a devastating rebuttal of Berkeley.  It reminds me of the dim-witted argument made by Gil Dodgen and others:  "I make choices all day!  Therefore free will exists!"

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G

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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,17:57   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 12 2012,15:35)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 12 2012,18:31)
Barry metaphorically kicks Jupiter

what a moron

i would bet joes virginity that barry doesn't know WTF is a probability distribution

Knowledge of such a concept would get you banned as a juror or would be grounds for recusal as a judge in any of Arrogant's court cases.

eta: objection to grammarical error

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,18:02   

Hey UDers,

In case you're wondering, yes, eigenstate did respond to Barry, and Barry is lying. Eigenstate preserved his response here, rightly anticipating that Barry might delete it. One of you who is more honest than Barry should post the link on the LNC thread.  Barry might delete it (and you), but you'll know you've done the right thing.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

  
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