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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2014,19:38   

Mapou is beginning to believe in evolution:      
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248 Mapou  December 13, 2014 at 1:59 pm

An all-knowing God is an impotent God. Why? Because he can’t change his mind: he already knows everything.

Only a God that can design and create a universe such as ours is worthy of worship. Only a God that can make mistakes and learn through trial and error can do such a thing. It did not come easy. It must have taken aeons of blind alleys and painstaking effort.

This is the God I worship.

Translated
"God" = the universe
"mistakes" = mutations
"trial and error" = natural selection

Of course, once he realizes that Evolution is True©, I plan on getting religion.  Who wants to be in the same club as that asshole?

  
Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,01:37   

Keith s screws up:
 
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fifthmonarchymanDecember 14, 2014 at 9:10 pm

Keiths askes

1)Why didn’t God warn us of the impending 2004 tsunami?

2. Why didn’t God intervene to prevent Jessica Chambers from being burned alive?

I say,

Because to do so would be to deprive his Son of Justice that is rightfully his, Justice againist those who hate him and want nothing more kill him and take his birthright.

Absent the restraining grace of God everyone including me and including those who were affected by these tragedies is an evil rebel who would do worse than Hitler if they had the chance. God’s wrath is simply the small part of the punishment that our rebellion deserves.

Every day of their lives these rebels were showered with unspeakable patience and kindness and long suffering love but did they ever take even a minute to thank God for any of the gifts he gave. No they used the stuff he gave them to sin in ever more deprived ways

Now there are some who belong to Christ who died in these events but for them their suffering was not a tragedy at all but a glorious opportunity to share in the sufferings of Christ (Philippians 3:10)

peace

The screw up? When putting a question to a UD regular he forgot to add the (elsewhere unnecessary) stipulation "make your reply coherent".
Link, comment 336.

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Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,02:10   

Tsunami - noun; a glorious opportunity to share in the sufferings of Christ.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,09:26   

pretty sure the guys on 9/11 were taking advantage of a Glorious Opportunity w/r/t their religion too.

   
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,10:44   

So let me get this straight...FMM's god will let justice prevail on some sinners when said sinners receive justice in the form of some random act of nature or accident, but said god won't bring said justice on all evil sinners directly himself? Yeeeeaaahhh...ooookaaay...

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,10:50   

If you got killed it was because you were evil and deserved it. Except for the people who weren't evil and got killed. For them getting killed was a reward.

These are the people who say I'm the one with deficient ethics.

   
socle



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,11:28   

Quote (Woodbine @ Dec. 15 2014,02:10)
Tsunami - noun; a glorious opportunity to share in the sufferings of Christ.


  
KCdgw



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,16:16   

They keep saying how, without God threatening them with eternal damnation, they'd be mass murdering all over the place. How they must fantasize about having the freedom to do that without accountability.  

Their internal struggle against their murderous nature must be exhausting.

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,16:20   

It's why they 'comfort' themselves with the thought of being able to view the punishment of the damned from their comfy chair in heaven, for eternity.
Hell is much less about punishment per se than about "I want to watch the punishment" -- a perfect complement to "those who think/act differently than I want to should burn".

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,16:32   

Quote (NoName @ Dec. 15 2014,14:20)
Hell is much less about punishment per se than about "I want to watch the punishment"...

Some people pay a lot of money for an hour of that.  The thought of getting it for free, forever, must get them all sweaty.

Paging Mr Leathers.  Mr Leathers to the white courtesy phone...

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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2014,16:39   

Quote (KCdgw @ Dec. 15 2014,17:16)
They keep saying how, without God threatening them with eternal damnation, they'd be mass murdering all over the place. How they must fantasize about having the freedom to do that without accountability.  

Their internal struggle against their murderous nature must be exhausting.




Edited by Patrick on Dec. 15 2014,17:44

  
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2014,02:34   

I do not doubt that many Christian people really have peace of mind; they somehow, maybe intuitively have grasped the meaning of it all. Having peace of mind, they are not in need of prozelytizing all and everyone about their own fundamentalistic interpretation of scripture.

Numerous examples of the latter are splattered all over PT, AtBC, and even at Sandwalk, totally irrelevant. AtBC would be a more appropriate and rewarding venue. Just look at what AtBC is doing for Gary Gaulin. Robert Byers, where are you?

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2014,04:33   

Quote (Quack @ Dec. 16 2014,10:34)
I do not doubt that many Christian people really have peace of mind; they somehow, maybe intuitively have grasped the meaning of it all. Having peace of mind, they are not in need of prozelytizing all and everyone about their own fundamentalistic interpretation of scripture.

Numerous examples of the latter are splattered all over PT, AtBC, and even at Sandwalk, totally irrelevant. AtBC would be a more appropriate and rewarding venue. Just look at what AtBC is doing for Gary Gaulin. Robert Byers, where are you?

What....from programming hero to loony hermit?

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2014,12:46   

Byers is alive at TSZ.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2014,19:37   

For certain values of "alive".

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2014,06:28   

Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 17 2014,00:37)
For certain values of "alive".

Elvis, Robert Byers, and a salmon walk into an fMRI lab...

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2014,07:10   

VJ Torley. Words*. Science.

*33,000.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2014,07:10   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 17 2014,14:28)
Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 17 2014,00:37)
For certain values of "alive".

Elvis, Robert Byers, and a salmon walk into an fMRI lab...

Haha I get it ....a walking salmon :)

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KevinB



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2014,12:26   

Please remember Uncommon Descent in your end of year giving ....

.... contribute to a deserving pro-science activity.

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2014,12:35   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 17 2014,05:10)
VJ Torley. Words*. Science.

*33,000.

Torley has WAY too much time on his hands.

In response to Torley's TLDR, gordo mullings said (among other things):

"I would note that over the past couple of centuries (and especially in recent decades), Christians have by and large not been particularly well educated in either biblical or systematic theology, much less philosophical theology. (Indeed that is a context for my own online effort, which is a sampler for a project in education) For various reasons, that has been the case. I think one consequence has been that there is a tendency to think rather superficially on matters that really require a huge investment to work through for oneself, or else a willingness to learn and accept much based on trusted authorities and their summaries; much as we study in mathematics, history and much else, even, in practical terms, a lot of science."

What immediately came to my mind is: WHY does anyone have to be "well educated" about religious fairy tales? WHY does it "really require a huge investment" to "study" something that is superficial bullshit, especially since believers believe in religious fairy tales for reasons that have nothing to do with actually studying matters that matter?

gordo and a lot of other people use a lot of authoritative sounding gobbledegook try to elevate the belief in and so-called "study" of religious woo to and above the actual study and acceptance of reality, and unfortunately many woo pushers succeed at getting (or coercing/threatening/forcing) many people to fall for their crap. gordo and other woo pushers especially target children because children are easy targets.

As far as I'm concerned, cramming religious bullshit into childrens' minds is abuse, and gordo's children must be two of the most brainwashed, threatened, abused kids on Earth, especially since gordo enforces his tyrannical agenda with beatings of his kids using "good Guyana cane" ("six of the best with Mr. Leathers"). In addition to beating his own kids, gordo has admitted to using "Mr. Leathers" on his former students. I wouldn't be surprised if he beats his wife too, and she must be just as fucked up and abusive as gordo since she married him, had kids with him, is still married to him, and allows/condones his sadistic corporal punishment of their kids. Chances are, she beats their kids with Mr. Leathers too. Birds of a feather...*

When gordo reads this he will spew a tirade (or multiple tirades) about 'slander' and of course he will include a lot of his other usual tyrannical spewage, but he still WON'T and CAN'T provide any evidence to support his accusations that I have threatened him, his wife, and their "minor children". gordo is a threatener AND abuser, and when it comes to their "minor children" his wife is just as guilty whether she beats them or not.  


*No offense meant to actual birds.

P.S. In case it matters, I take full responsibility for all of my comments. Neither this site nor anyone else is responsible for what I say.

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2014,13:00   

Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 16 2014,19:37)
For certain values of "alive".

That's only his avatar; his mind got lost long ago.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2014,14:35   

gordo barfed in comment 521: "Heaven would be a world in which those who have made the choice towards the light of right and truth receive the results of their choices."

Hey shit for brains, my oldest brother DIED at birth. Is he burning in a lake of fire for eternity because he didn't make "the choice towards the light of right and truth"? Did he have the opportunity and ability to make choices? Was your allegedly omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, perfect, merciful, loving 'God' testing my parents (and their extended families and friends) by killing their first child at birth?  

And speaking of making "the choice towards the light of right and truth", are you ever going to admit that you made up and keep repeating your willful LIES about me threatening you, your wife, and your "minor children" "mafioso style"?

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,00:48   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 17 2014,07:10)
VJ Torley. Words*. Science.

*33,000.

Torley in same post:      
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I’ve kept this post fairly short for the sake of people who dislike reading long essays, but I’ve also attached an appendix with an in-depth treatment of the issues raised, for those readers who appreciate philosophical discussions.

Just in case you have a lot of time on your hands.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,04:25   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 18 2014,06:48)

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...I’ve also attached an appendix with an in-depth treatment of the issues raised, for those readers who appreciate philosophical discussions.


I certainly appreciate philosophical discussions, but I prefer them to be carried out by people competent in philosophy.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,09:42   

Quote (Febble @ Jan. 05 2014,16:37)
It just dawned on me that ID is dead.

The social and cultural forces are still very much alive.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,09:51   

Too good not to crosspost here:

Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 18 2014,11:08)
Aw, poor gordo:


BFP
July 16, 2007 at 12:12 pm
BFP To Kairosfocus

Dear Kairosfocus:

Your volume of comments and the length of your comments are upsetting the normal mood of this blog.

When you post four or five new comments all at once we see nothing but you under the “new comments” column.

Readers are complaining, and these are not only the readers who disagree with your position. You are monopolizing the comments on only one issue.

While we appreciate your position on the threat of world islamist fascism, and we post such articles occasionally, your debates are turning this blog into something else.

We have therefore placed you on moderation, and will restrict your comments to two a day of short length. You are more than welcome to invite our readers to your own site –

– BUT THIS IS NOT YOUR WEBSITE.

Yours truly,

Robert

Barbados Free Press

ETA: replaced link with one that works.


Censorship, eh KF? Oh right, you're fine with it.

Edited by Richardthughes on Dec. 18 2014,09:53

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,10:27   

There's an interesting bit of history being smothered by KF's flatulence that I'd never heard about - the HARP project.

They shipped a gun barrel from a battleship to Barbados and shot stuff into space. And the chap who brought all this about was subsequently assassinated in 1990 while working on Iraq's super-gun project. Blimey!

Brief vid here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....Vf3VG24

And here's the actual gun as it is today....


  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,10:43   

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PLEASE, I’m begging you, for heaven sake, do something about that Kairofocus. SEVEN times this morning he has invaded this site like a plague of rats invading a home. It is very irritating.


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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,10:47   

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They shipped a gun barrel from a battleship to Barbados and shot stuff into space. And the chap who brought all this about was subsequently assassinated in 1990 while working on Iraq's super-gun project. Blimey!
Once zee bullets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department...

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KevinB



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,11:27   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Dec. 18 2014,10:43)
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PLEASE, I’m begging you, for heaven sake, do something about that Kairofocus. SEVEN times this morning he has invaded this site like a plague of rats invading a home. It is very irritating.

More like the "Plague of Frog" in Terry Pratchett's "Pyramids"...
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It was quite a big frog and it got into the air ducts and kept everyone awake for weeks

  
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