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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,13:27   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 18 2014,10:51)
Too good not to crosspost here:

 
Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 18 2014,11:08)
Aw, poor gordo:


BFP
July 16, 2007 at 12:12 pm
BFP To Kairosfocus

Dear Kairosfocus:

Your volume of comments and the length of your comments are upsetting the normal mood of this blog.

When you post four or five new comments all at once we see nothing but you under the “new comments” column.

Readers are complaining, and these are not only the readers who disagree with your position. You are monopolizing the comments on only one issue.

While we appreciate your position on the threat of world islamist fascism, and we post such articles occasionally, your debates are turning this blog into something else.

We have therefore placed you on moderation, and will restrict your comments to two a day of short length. You are more than welcome to invite our readers to your own site –

– BUT THIS IS NOT YOUR WEBSITE.

Yours truly,

Robert

Barbados Free Press

ETA: replaced link with one that works.


Censorship, eh KF? Oh right, you're fine with it.

I initially thought that was a warning from Barry, but clearly UD needs the volume more than a small island news site.

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2014,13:36   

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Your volume of comments and the length of your comments are upsetting the normal mood of this blog.


That can't happen at UD.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,08:19   

At least this time it is less than a constitutional crisis:
 
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kairosfocus December 19, 2014 at 5:55 am

Dr Selensky, very well said. KF

PS: Locked up with local issues so I cannot focus here. Ah, well . . .


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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2014,16:10   

It almost slipped by before I noticed, but

Merry Kitzmas, everyone!

Has it really been nine years?

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2014,16:55   

Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 20 2014,16:10)
It almost slipped by before I noticed, but

Merry Kitzmas, everyone!

Has it really been nine years?

ID has come on so much since... O_o

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2014,19:10   

In the same thread,

Joe repeats his cardinal sin:

 
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I have proven that [Cantor's] one-to-one correspondence is contrived,rather than derived, with respect to infinite sets in which one set is a proper subset of the other. That means his one-to-one correspondence is not what it appears as obviously there isn’t one and only one match between the two sets.


Mapou smites infinity thus:

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Infinity is crackpottery for a surprisingly simple reason.
Compared to infinity any finite quantity is infinitely small.

and

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1. Since no machine in existence can subtract any number from infinity, infinity is bogus.
2. Since a finite number is infinitely smaller than infinity, infinity is bogus.
I rest my case.


Well done boys. If infinity is a window, you've licked it good.

ETA: link

and bonus Mapou:

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Motion is caused by the universe correcting a violation to the conservation of nothing.


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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2014,19:43   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 20 2014,17:10)
In the same thread,

Joe repeats his cardinal sin:

   
Quote
I have proven that [Cantor's] one-to-one correspondence is contrived,rather than derived, with respect to infinite sets in which one set is a proper subset of the other. That means his one-to-one correspondence is not what it appears as obviously there isn’t one and only one match between the two sets.


Mapou smites infinity thus:

   
Quote
Infinity is crackpottery for a surprisingly simple reason.
Compared to infinity any finite quantity is infinitely small.

and

   
Quote
1. Since no machine in existence can subtract any number from infinity, infinity is bogus.
2. Since a finite number is infinitely smaller than infinity, infinity is bogus.
I rest my case.


Well done boys. If infinity is a window, you've licked it good.

ETA: link

and bonus Mapou:

 
Quote
Motion is caused by the universe correcting a violation to the conservation of nothing.



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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2014,20:23   

From UD:
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Take home point: The ID community is rapidly getting beyond the need to even care what such persons think.

True, but perhaps not in the sense that the writer intended.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2014,06:00   

Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 21 2014,00:10)
It almost slipped by before I noticed, but

Merry Kitzmas, everyone!

Has it really been nine years?

And a happy new arbitrary cultural start of another rotation around what we call the Sun.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2014,09:33   

Quote (timothya @ Dec. 21 2014,04:23)
From UD:
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Take home point: The ID community is rapidly getting beyond the need to even care what such persons think.

True, but perhaps not in the sense that the writer intended.

Of course ........but only faster bwhahahaha.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus
"I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

  
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2014,13:49   

In view of the approaching solstice festivities and accent on recurrent claims from most every creationist quarters that moral behavior can only be grounded in faith, preferably the fundamentalistic interpretation of the Bible: Is moral/unselfish behavior impossible without religious faith in a supernatural deity?
But what can we learn from scientific studies?

Alternative link: Science Daily

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              Robert Byers.

  
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2014,13:54   

We last left Mapou declaring the non-existence of infinity. Now he presents a sudden twist:

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All kinds of series can go on ad infinitum. So what?


So stupid it must be clever.

link

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[A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

  
BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2014,15:27   

I saw this and thought of ID.

  
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,08:53   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 21 2014,13:54)
We last left Mapou declaring the non-existence of infinity. Now he presents a sudden twist:

Quote
All kinds of series can go on ad infinitum. So what?


So stupid it must be clever.

link

Ironically, this reminds me of that quote attributed to Einstein about there only being two things that are infinite.

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,13:22   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 22 2014,08:53)
Quote (Driver @ Dec. 21 2014,13:54)
We last left Mapou declaring the non-existence of infinity. Now he presents a sudden twist:

 
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All kinds of series can go on ad infinitum. So what?


So stupid it must be clever.

link

Ironically, this reminds me of that quote attributed to Einstein about there only being two things that are infinite.

There are three types of people in the world. Those who understand math, and those who don't.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,15:40   

I've heard that there's 10 types of people - those that understand binary, and those who don't.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,15:44   

joe's _still_ babbling about set theory at UD.

wanna see something weird? this is the textbook for an advanced math class i had an NC State 10 years ago:



:O

   
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,15:48   

Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 22 2014,13:40)
I've heard that there's 10 types of people - those that understand binary, and those who don't.

There are two types of people: everyone else, and Joe.

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There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,15:51   

you notice something weird around chapter 2:

 
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For general rings, elements idempotent under multiplication are tied with decompositions of modules, as well as to homological properties of the ring, you ignorant shitface.


and by chapter 6 it's off the tracks:

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If a is a central idempotent, then the corner ring aRa = Ra is a ring with multiplicative identity a. But that's a bunch of pansy Abelian shit you non-commutative homos wouldn't recognize if it punched you in the cock-sucking face. Get a clue, and stop puking up that brainless materialist horseshit. Answers to odd problems found in Appendix G, which you probably couldn't locate with both hands and a flashlight UUUGGGHHHH I'M SO UNHAPPY...."


Edited by stevestory on Dec. 22 2014,16:52

   
Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,16:03   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 22 2014,15:48)
Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 22 2014,13:40)
I've heard that there's 10 types of people - those that understand binary, and those who don't.

There are two types of people: everyone else, and Joe.

There are only two types of people: ID is not anti-evolution, asshole. You have no evidence for your blind watchmaker more than two types of people theory.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,16:06   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 22 2014,13:51)
you notice something weird around chapter 2:

 
Quote
For general rings, elements idempotent under multiplication are tied with decompositions of modules, as well as to homological properties of the ring, you ignorant shitface.


and by chapter 6 it's off the tracks:

 
Quote

If a is a central idempotent, then the corner ring aRa = Ra is a ring with multiplicative identity a. But that's a bunch of pansy Abelian shit you non-commutative homos wouldn't recognize if it punched you in the cock-sucking face. Get a clue, and stop puking up that brainless materialist horseshit. Answers to odd problems found in Appendix G, which you probably couldn't locate with both hands and a flashlight UUUGGGHHHH I'M SO UNHAPPY...."

POTW.

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Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,16:26   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 22 2014,21:44)
joe's _still_ babbling about set theory at UD.

wanna see something weird? this is the textbook for an advanced math class i had an NC State 10 years ago:



:O

Idiot can't even spell his own name right.

  
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,16:30   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 22 2014,22:06)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 22 2014,13:51)
you notice something weird around chapter 2:

   
Quote
For general rings, elements idempotent under multiplication are tied with decompositions of modules, as well as to homological properties of the ring, you ignorant shitface.


and by chapter 6 it's off the tracks:

 
Quote

If a is a central idempotent, then the corner ring aRa = Ra is a ring with multiplicative identity a. But that's a bunch of pansy Abelian shit you non-commutative homos wouldn't recognize if it punched you in the cock-sucking face. Get a clue, and stop puking up that brainless materialist horseshit. Answers to odd problems found in Appendix G, which you probably couldn't locate with both hands and a flashlight UUUGGGHHHH I'M SO UNHAPPY...."

POTW.

D'accord, or some other suitable type of Honda.

But where is 'Ya see'? In what position does the author provide evidence of the absence of evidence for your position?

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,17:40   

In the zero thread at UD, Jerad said:

"But it does matter if you can defend your statements with proper academic references."

And joey totally destroyed every claim/inference/reference/argument/assertion/remark/comment, i.e. statement, that he has ever spewed and will ever spew that relied/relies/referred/refers in any way on and/or to "other people" by saying:

"I choose to defend my statements with evidence, logic and reasoning. Only you require the crutch of other people."

So, joey, it will be interesting and entertaining to see you start from scratch in defending every statement you've ever made and every statement you will ever make with "evidence, logic and reasoning" by using only what you present from your own, original, unique observations, definitions, numerical/mathematical formulations, inventions, tools, methods, language/terminology, evidence, studies, discoveries, inferences, explanations, speculations, hypotheses, theories, etc., that are completely independent of anything and everything that "other people" have ever said, observed, formulated, invented, studied, discovered, inferred, explained, speculated, hypothesized, theorized, etc., etc., etc. No "crutch(es)" allowed.

You have a lot of work to do, joey.


ETA: a few modifications.

Edited by The whole truth on Dec. 22 2014,16:10

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,17:56   

In case any of you want to save this:



joey will likely need a lot reminders of what he said, especially:

"The words mean what they do regardless of the setting. That you have some mental block to that fact says quite a bit about you."

And:

"I choose to defend my statements with evidence, logic and reasoning. Only you require the crutch of other people."

http://www.uncommondescent.com/mathema....-538032

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,18:25   

Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 22 2014,17:56)
In case any of you want to save this:



joey will likely need a lot reminders of what he said, especially:

"The words mean what they do regardless of the setting. That you have some mental block to that fact says quite a bit about you."

And:

"I choose to defend my statements with evidence, logic and reasoning. Only you require the crutch of other people."

http://www.uncommondescent.com/mathema....-538032

The important part is the "words mean what they do"... of course, Joe's automatically applied caveat (that means "exception" Joey) of "unless they mean something that defeats my own argument.

The rest, well he defends everything he says. He just has no idea what reason, logic, and evidence actually are.

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Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

   
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,22:19   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 22 2014,21:06)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 22 2014,13:51)
you notice something weird around chapter 2:

   
Quote
For general rings, elements idempotent under multiplication are tied with decompositions of modules, as well as to homological properties of the ring, you ignorant shitface.


and by chapter 6 it's off the tracks:

 
Quote

If a is a central idempotent, then the corner ring aRa = Ra is a ring with multiplicative identity a. But that's a bunch of pansy Abelian shit you non-commutative homos wouldn't recognize if it punched you in the cock-sucking face. Get a clue, and stop puking up that brainless materialist horseshit. Answers to odd problems found in Appendix G, which you probably couldn't locate with both hands and a flashlight UUUGGGHHHH I'M SO UNHAPPY...."

POTW.

Best book ever. Pale Fire for maths students.

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[A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2014,22:57   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 22 2014,16:25)
Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 22 2014,17:56)
In case any of you want to save this:



joey will likely need a lot reminders of what he said, especially:

"The words mean what they do regardless of the setting. That you have some mental block to that fact says quite a bit about you."

And:

"I choose to defend my statements with evidence, logic and reasoning. Only you require the crutch of other people."

http://www.uncommondescent.com/mathema....-538032

The important part is the "words mean what they do"... of course, Joe's automatically applied caveat (that means "exception" Joey) of "unless they mean something that defeats my own argument.

The rest, well he defends everything he says. He just has no idea what reason, logic, and evidence actually are.

If by, "The rest, well he defends everything he says. He just has no idea what reason, logic, and evidence actually are.", you mean that 'Fuck you, assface.' (or something similar) is how joey defends everything he says, I'll agree. :)

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2014,07:11   

Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 23 2014,06:57)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 22 2014,16:25)
 
Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 22 2014,17:56)
In case any of you want to save this:



joey will likely need a lot reminders of what he said, especially:

"The words mean what they do regardless of the setting. That you have some mental block to that fact says quite a bit about you."

And:

"I choose to defend my statements with evidence, logic and reasoning. Only you require the crutch of other people."

http://www.uncommondescent.com/mathema....-538032

The important part is the "words mean what they do"... of course, Joe's automatically applied caveat (that means "exception" Joey) of "unless they mean something that defeats my own argument.

The rest, well he defends everything he says. He just has no idea what reason, logic, and evidence actually are.

If by, "The rest, well he defends everything he says. He just has no idea what reason, logic, and evidence actually are.", you mean that 'Fuck you, assface.' (or something similar) is how joey defends everything he says, I'll agree. :)

I'd like to see joey defend Bin Laden.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2014,08:09   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 22 2014,15:48)
Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 22 2014,13:40)
I've heard that there's 10 types of people - those that understand binary, and those who don't.

There are two types of people: everyone else, and Joe.

Not joey.

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