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k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 09 2014,22:22    Quote (Woodbine @ Dec. 10 2014,04:37) Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 09 2014,08:17) Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 09 2014,03:16) If bats weren't bird kind, then how could a bat man have a ward who turned out to be a robin? It's a misspelling of 'Rubbing' Weird choice to have them at the same altitude as the bat signal. At a bath house on the 5th floor somewhere in Gotham city.... -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

timothya Posts: 280 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 09 2014,23:13    From Axel, at UD:   Quote We don’t claim to fully understand the mind of God. Our faith, indeed, our world, is full of mystery. Your is full of absolute knowledge, underpinned by a truly pathetically absolute ignorance. You are good for the menial works of science, but sterile when it comes to discovering new paradigms. If mankind had had to rely on you, atheist scientists, we would still be waiting for you to discover quantum mechanics! You are a disgrace to the modern world. I dips me lid. This is one of the finest examples I have seen of cramming into the shortest possible text a maximum of falsehood,  error, mischaracterisation, evasion, inept logic, bad faith, pompous windbaggery and intellectual corruption. -------------- "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread." Anatole France

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2014,00:16    Quote (timothya @ Dec. 10 2014,07:13) From Axel, at UD:       Quote We don’t claim to fully understand the mind of God. Our faith, indeed, our world, is full of mystery. Your is full of absolute knowledge, underpinned by a truly pathetically absolute ignorance. You are good for the menial works of science, but sterile when it comes to discovering new paradigms. If mankind had had to rely on you, atheist scientists, we would still be waiting for you to discover quantum mechanics! You are a disgrace to the modern world. I dips me lid. This is one of the finest examples I have seen of cramming into the shortest possible text a maximum of falsehood,  error, mischaracterisation, evasion, inept logic, bad faith, pompous windbaggery and intellectual corruption. Poe's Law alive and well. I would have great difficulty matching that. A very high bar indeed. Eta: Not you Axel obviously ...just in case ur paranoid -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2014,04:07    Quote (timothya @ Dec. 10 2014,04:13) From Axel, at UD:   Quote We don’t claim to fully understand the mind of God. Our faith, indeed, our world, is full of mystery. Your is full of absolute knowledge, underpinned by a truly pathetically absolute ignorance. You are good for the menial works of science, but sterile when it comes to discovering new paradigms. If mankind had had to rely on you, atheist scientists, we would still be waiting for you to discover quantum mechanics! You are a disgrace to the modern world. I dips me lid. This is one of the finest examples I have seen of cramming into the shortest possible text a maximum of falsehood,  error, mischaracterisation, evasion, inept logic, bad faith, pompous windbaggery and intellectual corruption. All hail the prophet Dirac. -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2014,04:34    Quote (timothya @ Dec. 10 2014,04:13) From Axel, at UD:   Quote We don’t claim to fully understand the mind of God. Our faith, indeed, our world, is full of mystery. Your is full of absolute knowledge, underpinned by a truly pathetically absolute ignorance. You are good for the menial works of science, but sterile when it comes to discovering new paradigms. If mankind had had to rely on you, atheist scientists, we would still be waiting for you to discover quantum mechanics! You are a disgrace to the modern world. I dips me lid. This is one of the finest examples I have seen of cramming into the shortest possible text a maximum of falsehood,  error, mischaracterisation, evasion, inept logic, bad faith, pompous windbaggery and intellectual corruption. This comment from Andre on the same thread beats it for ignorance and degree of error, if not the rest: Quote You do know that most misery in the world is inflicted by humans because they choose to do it right? -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

timothya Posts: 280 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2014,05:07    I'm sure you will have seen this, but in advance of the holiday break, here is a reminder that music isn't something to just listen to, it is something to make: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....JR9oKVE Handel wrote some of the best tunes. My best wishes to you and yours. -------------- "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread." Anatole France

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2014,12:09    More misery is caused by doing it wrong. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,11:42    At UD: 98 kairosfocus December 10, 2014 at 7:02 am "WJM, I see you have nailed the real danger we all face aptly: FASCISM, rooted in Nietzschean superman political messianism that allegedly rescues us from an utterly unprecedented crisis that frightens us into letting go of liberty to gain security. And yes, Fascism is a strange neo-marxian hybrid that has deep roots in marxism, but knows how to strike at first mutually beneficial deals with the crony capitalists and cartelised industries . . . or with any other relevant centres of power. Then, people learn the hard way — yet again — on what it is to strike a deal with the devil. KF" -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,12:57    Alicia Renard said: "If you want to develop KF’s analogy about fishing reels, feel free." banny arroganton said: "No need. KF has developed it sufficiently himself. I merely pointed out that your opposition to his analogy is unfounded. To summarize: KF proposed his fishing reel analogy. You objected to the fishing reel analogy on the ground that a designer must be material. My point is simple and narrow: That objection fails because there is no reason, in principle, why the designer need not be material. Any designer, whether material or immaterial, will leave the same sorts of indicia of design." KF (gordo mullings) huffed: "AR: I am not proposing an analogy between fishing reels and life forms." And KF (gordo mullings) puffed: "...and lo and behold, we now see silly remarks about analogies, a term which in this context is utterly loaded. That, is telling — it sounds a lot like the zero concessions policy even tot he point of absurdity. So, at this point, I can safely leave that insight to the astute onlooker." See comments 238 and 246 here ------------------------------------- Hey gordo, the "astute onlooker" will easily see that you are a two faced tyrant who flipped out when Alicia Renard called your drum beat repetitive fishing reel crap an analogy and that you said nothing to your 'fellow traveler ilk' banny arroganton when he THRICE called it an analogy. Hmm, since you claim that you are "not proposing an analogy between fishing reels and life forms", your fishing reel crap is then, by your own admission, either completely irrelevant to anything that pertains to life forms, or you believe and are asserting that there actually is an Abu 6500 C3 fishing reel in life forms, or that an Abu 6500 C3 fishing reel is a life form. The same thing applies to all of your other bloviating crap about wiring diagrams, oil refineries, punched paper tape controlled NC machines familiar from factories, etc., etc., etc.,  that by your own huffing and puffing admission are not analogies. ETA: corrected TWICE to THRICE. Edited by The whole truth on Dec. 12 2014,12:14 -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,14:01    Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 12 2014,16:42) At UD: 98 kairosfocus December 10, 2014 at 7:02 am "WJM, I see you have nailed the real danger we all face aptly: FASCISM, rooted in Nietzschean superman political messianism that allegedly rescues us from an utterly unprecedented crisis that frightens us into letting go of liberty to gain security. And yes, Fascism is a strange neo-marxian hybrid that has deep roots in marxism, but knows how to strike at first mutually beneficial deals with the crony capitalists and cartelised industries . . . or with any other relevant centres of power. Then, people learn the hard way — yet again — on what it is to strike a deal with the devil. KF" Fun quiz: 1) Name anyone from Montserrat who wrote a blog post saying Jerry Falwell had a point about 9-11? 2) Name anyone with the initials GEM who has defended theocratic utterances by Christian Reconstructionist RJ Rushdoony. 3) Name a Caribbean blogger and contributor to UD who seeks a Christian world order, global governance according to Evangelical principles. 4) Who has a Focus on combatting "Homosexualism"? 5) Initials K and F. Fan of Glen Beck. Who is it? 6) Who would take down the Redemption Song statue in Emancipation Park, New Kingston, Jamaica? -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,14:12    "I merely pointed out that there is no warrant for your dismissal of a material embodied designer on an a priori basis." "Again, you are missing the point, which is that design by a material embodied agent is not logically impossible and therefore should not be dismissed on an a priori basis. None of these questions needs to be answered to know that proposition is true." "Then you were under a misapprehension about ID. The theory does not posit that the designer is immaterial. It does not posit that the designer is material. It posits that the designer, whether material or immaterial, designed, and that such design leaves indicia that may be discovered though an empirical investigation." "...there is no reason, in principle, why the designer need not be material." All said by banny arroganton in this thread. --------------------------------------------- Hey banny, in that case, I'm claiming that 'the designers-creators' of the universe (including life, humans, etc.) are material, but invisible, unicorns from the 947th dimension. You IDiots better get busy on your empirical investigation to see if I'm right or wrong. After all, you can't dismiss my claim on an a priori basis, especially since my claim has just as much evidence to support it as your beliefs and claims do. By the way banny, I know and you know and everyone else who is familiar with you IDiots knows that you are willfully lying (as usual). One of the things that you and your 'fellow traveler ilk' really push is that 'the designer' (your chosen, so-called 'God') is immaterial and that it must be immaterial and supernatural. Haven't any of your christian buddies told you that lying is a 'sin' that is punishable by eternal suffering in a lake of fire? -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,14:19    Quote (Driver @ Dec. 12 2014,12:01) Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 12 2014,16:42) At UD: 98 kairosfocus December 10, 2014 at 7:02 am "WJM, I see you have nailed the real danger we all face aptly: FASCISM, rooted in Nietzschean superman political messianism that allegedly rescues us from an utterly unprecedented crisis that frightens us into letting go of liberty to gain security. And yes, Fascism is a strange neo-marxian hybrid that has deep roots in marxism, but knows how to strike at first mutually beneficial deals with the crony capitalists and cartelised industries . . . or with any other relevant centres of power. Then, people learn the hard way — yet again — on what it is to strike a deal with the devil. KF" Fun quiz: 1) Name anyone from Montserrat who wrote a blog post saying Jerry Falwell had a point about 9-11? 2) Name anyone with the initials GEM who has defended theocratic utterances by Christian Reconstructionist RJ Rushdoony. 3) Name a Caribbean blogger and contributor to UD who seeks a Christian world order, global governance according to Evangelical principles. 4) Who has a Focus on combatting "Homosexualism"? 5) Initials K and F. Fan of Glen Beck. Who is it? 6) Who would take down the Redemption Song statue in Emancipation Park, New Kingston, Jamaica? Hmm, that's a tough one. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,14:32    Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 12 2014,15:12) "Then you were under a misapprehension about ID. The theory does not posit that the designer is immaterial. It does not posit that the designer is material. It posits that the designer, whether material or immaterial, designed, and that such design leaves indicia that may be discovered though an empirical investigation." "...there is no reason, in principle, why the designer need not be material." All said by banny arroganton in this thread. --------------------------------------------- Hey banny, in that case, I'm claiming that 'the designers-creators' of the universe (including life, humans, etc.) are material, but invisible, unicorns from the 947th dimension. You IDiots better get busy on your empirical investigation to see if I'm right or wrong. After all, you can't dismiss my claim on an a priori basis, especially since my claim has just as much evidence to support it as your beliefs and claims do. By the way banny, I know and you know and everyone else who is familiar with you IDiots knows that you are willfully lying (as usual). One of the things that you and your 'fellow traveler ilk' really push is that 'the designer' (your chosen, so-called 'God') is immaterial and that it must be immaterial and supernatural. Haven't any of your christian buddies told you that lying is a 'sin' that is punishable by eternal suffering in a lake of fire? "The fine-tuning of the universe, about which cosmologists make such a to-do, is both complex and specified and readily yields design. So too, Michael Behe's irreducibly complex biochemical systems readily yield design. The complexity-specification criterion demonstrates that design pervades cosmology and biology. Moreover, it is a transcendent design, not reducible to the physical world. Indeed, no intelligent agent who is strictly physical could have presided over the origin of the universe or the origin of life. " -William Dembski

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,15:58    gordo continues to show his two-faced tyrannical rage toward Alicia Renard (and by extension toward all people who are not IDiots). I looked through the thread and found that Alicia used the word "analogy" in comment 230 to describe gordo's fishing reel crap. In comment 238 banny quoted her 230 comment and he called gordo's fishing reel crap an analogy THREE times in his response. In comment 246 gordo bitched at Alicia but not at banny, as I pointed out in my previous comment above. In comment 251 Alicia quoted banny's 238 response which included her 230 use of the word "analogy" and banny's THREE time use of that word to describe gordo's fishing reel crap. In comment 255 gordo sneered: "AR, still on about “analogies”? That speaks volumes, and not in your favour." gordo said nothing to his 'fellow traveler ilk' banny. gordo's "still on" bullshit is an accusation that Alicia Renard freshly restated the word "analogy" when all she actually did was quote banny's 238 response to her (which included her 230 comment and banny's THREE time use of the word "analogy") so that she could respond to him accordingly. Hey gordo, your massive spewage of tyrannical, anal-retentive, two-faced, malignantly narcissistic, willfully dishonest, bigoted, paranoid, cowardly, theocratic insanity and FALSE accusations, FALSE character assasinations, and all of your other putrid vomit speaks volumes, and definitely NOT in your favor. And gordo, your continued two-faced bitching about Alicia's use of the word "analogy" just confirms what I said in my previous comment above about your fishing reel, wiring diagram, oil refinery, tape machines, etc., crap. You, joey, and all other IDiots are really good at destroying your own arguments. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,19:56    I've been hoping that some IDiot in the fine tuning thread at UD would say something like this about puddles: Silver Asiatic: "Water does not always fit the hole “staggeringly well” but can overflow or underfill. Rain may entirely avoid a hole. Water fits every contour “staggeringly well”. Rocks fill holes also as does sand. The analogy says nothing." Hey Silver Asiatic, a puddle in a hole/depression fits the hole/depression "staggeringly well". Any liquid that overflows is no longer part of that puddle unless it contributes to the formation of a larger puddle that includes the liquid in the overflowed puddle, and if a hole/depression has no liquid in it there is no puddle. If a hole/depression has liquid in it but is not 'full', the liquid in it is still a puddle that fits the space and form of the hole/depression that it occupies staggeringly well. A puddle does not have to fill a hole/depression exactly and only to the highest points to be a puddle. For example, picture a lake. Lakes fluctuate, often greatly, in their depth and the area they cover. If there is no outlet and there is a lot of rain or snowmelt entering the lake the lake will get deeper and will cover a greater area, and it will fit the ground it's on staggeringly well. If there is an outlet and/or little rain or snowmelt, however much water is in the lake will fit the ground it's on staggeringly well. If some of the water in the lake evaporates and/or sinks into the ground, the remaining water is still a lake that fits the ground it's on staggeringly well. If all of the water drains out, evaporates, or sinks into the ground it's no longer a lake, and if the same things happen to a puddle it's no longer a puddle. No lake has a perfectly flat bottom so even if a lake were drained, puddles would be left in the holes/depressions that don't allow drainage, at least until those puddles dry up or soak into the ground. For as long as each of those puddles are puddles they would fit the ground they are on staggeringly well. The ground isn't the lake or the puddle, the water in/on the holes/depressions is. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,20:11    On the 12th December 2014, StephenB first encountered The Problem of Evil Quote I can refute your argument with the greatest of ease by simply asking you to define the very word (evil) you are using. Nope. Quote Why should God prevent evil? Is there anything wrong with evil? Why would it be wrong? Um... Ahem. I think- Okay, it seems someone might have to define evil for you after all. -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,22:35    Quote (Driver @ Dec. 12 2014,18:11) On the 12th December 2014, StephenB first encountered The Problem of Evil   Quote I can refute your argument with the greatest of ease by simply asking you to define the very word (evil) you are using. Nope.   Quote Why should God prevent evil? Is there anything wrong with evil? Why would it be wrong? Um... Ahem. I think- Okay, it seems someone might have to define evil for you after all. There's something really, really wrong with the IDiots at UD. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,23:32    Quote (Driver @ Dec. 13 2014,13:11) On the 12th December 2014, StephenB first encountered The Problem of Evil     Quote I can refute your argument with the greatest of ease by simply asking you to define the very word (evil) you are using. Nope.     Quote Why should God prevent evil? Is there anything wrong with evil? Why would it be wrong? Um... Ahem. I think- Okay, it seems someone might have to define evil for you after all. Later in that thread StephenB continues his struggle with reality:   Quote 186 StephenBDecember 12, 2014 at 10:39 pm Keiths   Quote    Why didn’t God warn us of the impending 2004 tsunami? Because there was no reason for God to do so. Haven’t you ever heard of a weather forecast? Do you think God should have warned us personally and not through the weatherman? If so, why do you think so? Oh, I forgot. You are afraid to answer questions or define terms. My emphasis. -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

socle Posts: 322 Joined: July 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2014,23:37    Oh dear.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,02:08    Faaaaaark... Fundies completely useless you can't shoot 'em and can't use 'em for fire starters. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

timothya Posts: 280 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,11:49    Read it and weep: UD. -------------- "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread." Anatole France

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,12:47    that is mind blowing. Dense: Quote Evolution news and views: Quote Now, a massive genetic study published in Science has confirmed the fossil evidence that birds arose explosively. According to an article titled, “Rapid bird evolution after the age of dinosaurs unprecedented”: Okay, it all happened really fast, and so do explosions. (If it happened really slow, we would call it evolution.) See the problem? Explosions aren’t just very fast, they are usually destructive. Yes, they can be constructive, but only if controlled for a constructive purpose like blasting a subway tunnel (intelligent design). see? an "explosion" of birds is bad because explosions are bad, unless it's a controlled demolition, therefore intelligent design. wow.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,12:50    Quote (timothya @ Dec. 13 2014,11:49) Read it and weep: UD. Scientific study shows most genera of extant birds arose in a 10 million year period of re-radiation following the 66 MYA Chicxulub impact. According to Gerbil Luskin that's more evidence for Intelligent Design. WTF?  This latest loony claim doesn't even begin to make sense. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,13:22    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 13 2014,18:47) that is mind blowing. Dense:       Quote Evolution news and views:     Quote Now, a massive genetic study published in Science has confirmed the fossil evidence that birds arose explosively. According to an article titled, “Rapid bird evolution after the age of dinosaurs unprecedented”: Okay, it all happened really fast, and so do explosions. (If it happened really slow, we would call it evolution.) See the problem? Explosions aren’t just very fast, they are usually destructive. Yes, they can be constructive, but only if controlled for a constructive purpose like blasting a subway tunnel (intelligent design). see? an "explosion" of birds is bad because explosions are bad, unless it's a controlled demolition, therefore intelligent design. wow. It's all true! See this! Chicken Religion Explosion All hail the designer Pachamama! Edited by Amadan on Dec. 13 2014,19:22 -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,13:44    Quote See the problem? Explosions aren’t just very fast, they are usually destructive. Yes, they can be constructive, but only if controlled for a constructive purpose like blasting a subway tunnel (intelligent design). Finally, an explanation for chicken McNuggets.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,13:56    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 13 2014,12:47) that is mind blowing. Dense:   Quote Evolution news and views: Quote Now, a massive genetic study published in Science has confirmed the fossil evidence that birds arose explosively. According to an article titled, “Rapid bird evolution after the age of dinosaurs unprecedented”: Okay, it all happened really fast, and so do explosions. (If it happened really slow, we would call it evolution.) See the problem? Explosions aren’t just very fast, they are usually destructive. Yes, they can be constructive, but only if controlled for a constructive purpose like blasting a subway tunnel (intelligent design). see? an "explosion" of birds is bad because explosions are bad, unless it's a controlled demolition, therefore intelligent design. wow. Maybe the designer fed them uncooked rice? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,14:05    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 13 2014,13:44)   Quote See the problem? Explosions aren’t just very fast, they are usually destructive. Yes, they can be constructive, but only if controlled for a constructive purpose like blasting a subway tunnel (intelligent design). Finally, an explanation for chicken McNuggets. POTW *dips finger in holy water and makes the sign of the arches* -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

snorkild Posts: 32 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,16:39    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 13 2014,12:47) that is mind blowing. Dense:     Quote Evolution news and views:   Quote Now, a massive genetic study published in Science has confirmed the fossil evidence that birds arose explosively. According to an article titled, “Rapid bird evolution after the age of dinosaurs unprecedented”: Okay, it all happened really fast, and so do explosions. (If it happened really slow, we would call it evolution.) See the problem? Explosions aren’t just very fast, they are usually destructive. Yes, they can be constructive, but only if controlled for a constructive purpose like blasting a subway tunnel (intelligent design). see? an "explosion" of birds is bad because explosions are bad, unless it's a controlled demolition, therefore intelligent design. wow. The destructiveness of these explosion have long been known:   Quote i hav a question about te camban expotion, i can see how crocdiles and the cmbrian explotin that killed te other diosaurs, but what about elephts? They ouldn't all hve bee in the water at the time it happed. And the were too big to be undrgrond with thesmall ratty mamals from wo we evolved. Why d we stll see ephants toay/ -------------- wimp

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,18:40    Quote i hav a question about te camban expotion, i can see how crocdiles and the cmbrian explotin that killed te other diosaurs, but what about elephts? They ouldn't all hve bee in the water at the time it happed. And the were too big to be undrgrond with thesmall ratty mamals from wo we evolved. Why d we stll see ephants toay/ elephts survivd becuse they had time to pack they're trunks? \

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2014,21:23    fifthmonarchyman spreads some christian love: "You must remember I’m a Calvinist I believe that humanity is radically depraved. We all deserve to die." ETA: For some reason the link goes to a different comment. See comment 246. Edited by The whole truth on Dec. 13 2014,19:30 -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

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