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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:09   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,08:54)
This is the model that is supposed to be under discussion:


And we're back to the very beginning of this thread.  So, top left of your ridiculous diagram: present your evidence that particles have memory.  (Model ^= evidence.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:25   

It is under discussion.  And just as it has been every single time in every single place it has been discussed it has been dismissed as nonsense.
Deal with it.
Start back at the beginning of this thread and try responding to the criticism raised.  Any of them.  Pick one, there are lots.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:30   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,10:54)
This is the model that is supposed to be under discussion:


https://sites.google.com/site.......ign.pdf

From Arnold Trehub, "The Cognitive Brain", MIT Press 1991, Chapter 9, Page 158, Fig 9.3


http://people.umass.edu/trehub.....ub....b
http://people.umass.edu/trehub.....er9.pdf

Also see machine learning, David L. Heiserman "How to Build Your Own Self-Programming Robot" TAB Books 1979
http://www.beam-wiki.org/wiki.......#Rodney

Removing references that show there is nothing at all wrong with the model (actually standard basic cognitive science shown in relation to all of biology) allows Darwinian science denialists to cast doubt on entire areas of routine science, with many researchers in it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:33   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,10:54)
This is the model that is supposed to be under discussion:


https://sites.google.com/site.......ign.pdf

From Arnold Trehub, "The Cognitive Brain", MIT Press 1991, Chapter 9, Page 158, Fig 9.3


http://people.umass.edu/trehub.....ub....b
http://people.umass.edu/trehub.....er9.pdf

Also see machine learning, David L. Heiserman "How to Build Your Own Self-Programming Robot" TAB Books 1979
http://www.beam-wiki.org/wiki.......#Rodney

This thread contains many observations of the failings of your miserable diagram.  The fact that it remains almost unchanged indicates that you don't want a discussion of its shortcomings and that you are incapable of improving your work to a level that makes it even marginally acceptable to the people that you want to impress.  What you want is blind acceptance and praise, or failing that you are obviously content to settle for vapid sentiments along the lines of “Congratulations Gary, excellent work. Will dive into it, when i'll get time” (since you are so proud of your meaningless Planet Source Code "accolades").

Your diagram at lower right vaguely relates to your bug (although it is unclear that the labels have any meaningful correspondence to reality - you might as well have labeled something "Angel in Control Chair" for all that it matters).  Everything else is nonsense.  You haven't demonstrated the existence of molecular intelligence, nor have you explained how it works or how it can be measured.  It and "cellular intelligence" are not tested by anything you are doing, and neither your bug model nor your lower-right flowchart relates to them at all.  You haven't explained how a molecule assesses confidence or takes a guess, or "saves new confidence", nor have you justified your abysmal "4 requirements model Intelligence".  Incoherent writing like "2 Requirements model BEHAVIOR" remains uninterpretable (is model a noun or a verb in that phrase?).  You still haven't addressed how your characteristics imply that a Neato vacuum cleaner has more intelligence than a mushroom.  "Electromagnetic light, temperature, kinetic, soundwaves, etc." is still laughably bad writing, and you have random capitalization and punctuation all over the place, cryptic references to unjustified variables notwithstanding.  "Metabolic from Cell Int./Ext." remains uninterpretable. You haven't explained how something can emerge from something else that is self-similar to it, or how either emergence or self-similarity is consistent with standard versions of design.  Etc., etc., etc.

What are the units of molecular intelligence and how do you measure it?  Which has more "multicellular intelligence", a mushroom or a dandelion with the same number of cells, and precisely how much more?  What is the process by which "molecular intelligence" gives rise to "cellular intelligence"?  Since multicellular life appears to have preceded the Cambrian explosion by 1 to 1.5 billion years, does that mean that "multicellular intelligence" is unrelated to multicellular life?  How come we should pay any attention to your ideas when by your own criteria they've been made obsolete by Edgar Postrado's publications?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:38   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,11:09)
And we're back to the very beginning of this thread.  So, top left of your ridiculous diagram: present your evidence that particles have memory.  (Model ^= evidence.)

The illustration for the computer model says "2 Requirements model BEHAVIOR" duh?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:50   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,11:38)

The illustration for the computer model says "2 Requirements model BEHAVIOR" duh?

So what?  My model says PlaneElevation = PlaneElevation + AngelLift.

  
NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:54   

Indeed.  So what?
You can say anything, that doesn't make it true.
And as we have been schooling you for the last couple of days, a model is not an explanation.  
Both 'molecular intelligence' and 'cellular intelligence' are undefined terms.  They have no explanatory power until and unless they are explained and shown, with evidence, to be meaningful concepts in this context.
Worse, the concept 'guess' as you use it smuggles 'intelligence' into your "model".  This renders your alleged explanation circular and thus not explanatory.
We've spent hundreds of pages going over this sort of thing with you, and you appear to have learned nothing.
Epic extended fail, Gary.
Just as we have come to expect.

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:54   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,09:38)
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,11:09)
And we're back to the very beginning of this thread.  So, top left of your ridiculous diagram: present your evidence that particles have memory.  (Model ^= evidence.)

The illustration for the computer model says "2 Requirements model BEHAVIOR" duh?

So you're taking the "too incoherent to mean what I say" defence again?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,11:57   

Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 19 2014,12:33)
what are the units of molecular intelligence and how do you measure it?

Gaulins?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,12:05   

Based on the last 420 pages, I'm guessing a functional VB program is about a thousand times smarter than Gary, so the intelligence of The ID Lab is approximately a kiloGaulin.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,12:06   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 19 2014,09:57)
Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 19 2014,12:33)
what are the units of molecular intelligence and how do you measure it?

Gaulins?

They're the units of incoherent babble.  1 byers = 1 centigaulin.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,12:10   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 19 2014,11:57)
 
Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 19 2014,12:33)
what are the units of molecular intelligence and how do you measure it?

Gaulins?

Hey, one half of an operational definition.  Since 1 gaulin < 1 box of rocks (or in Georgian parlance, < one bag of boiled gravel), that might indeed make pretty much everything intelligent*, thereby proving Gary's hypothesis.  See, Gary, what's possible when you follow the procedures of science.

(Assuming that we can prove that 1 gaulin .NE 0 knowledge.)


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I'm guessing a functional VB program is about a thousand times smarter than Gary, so the intelligence of The ID Lab is approximately a kiloGaulin.
 So when Gary writes a functioning VB program, that is ipso facto emergence of intelligence?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,12:33   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 19 2014,11:57)
Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 19 2014,12:33)
what are the units of molecular intelligence and how do you measure it?

Gaulins?

That was already answered by this:



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,12:38   

And the "Success" rate can be for any task. The task of "Foraging" for something is only one possibility.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,12:45   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,10:33)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 19 2014,11:57)
 
Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 19 2014,12:33)
what are the units of molecular intelligence and how do you measure it?

Gaulins?

That was already answered by this:


So the units of molecular intelligence are (drumroll...) percent?  That's brilliant, Gary.  Have you considered a career as a garden gnome?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,12:54   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,12:45)
So the units of molecular intelligence are (drumroll...) percent?  That's brilliant, Gary.  Have you considered a career as a garden gnome?

I'm done trying to reason with insulting jerk-off's like you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,12:59   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,10:54)
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,12:45)
So the units of molecular intelligence are (drumroll...) percent?  That's brilliant, Gary.  Have you considered a career as a garden gnome?

I'm done trying to reason with insulting jerk-off's like you.

Done?  When did you start reasoning?  I don't pay regular attention to this thread, and must have missed it.  

Possibly it was one of your devastating argumentum ad shitty music video posts.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,13:15   

Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 19 2014,13:10)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 19 2014,11:57)
 
Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 19 2014,12:33)
what are the units of molecular intelligence and how do you measure it?

Gaulins?

Hey, one half of an operational definition.  Since 1 gaulin < 1 box of rocks (or in Georgian parlance, < one bag of boiled gravel), that might indeed make pretty much everything intelligent*, thereby proving Gary's hypothesis.  See, Gary, what's possible when you follow the procedures of science.

(Assuming that we can prove that 1 gaulin .NE 0 knowledge.)


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I'm guessing a functional VB program is about a thousand times smarter than Gary, so the intelligence of The ID Lab is approximately a kiloGaulin.
 So when Gary writes a functioning VB program, that is ipso facto emergence of intelligence?

It's Fractally-Emergent in Real-Science, here.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,13:17   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,13:54)
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,12:45)
So the units of molecular intelligence are (drumroll...) percent?  That's brilliant, Gary.  Have you considered a career as a garden gnome?

I'm done trying to reason with insulting jerk-off's like you.

Pretty sure there's no apostrophe there. Here.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,13:21   

Crimes against the language are the least of his sins.
Although perhaps the commonest.

Gary, you are not modeling foraging, despite your claims.  Notably, you have not shown that what you are modeling is in actual fact the behavior of creatures that forage.

Worse, foraging is not necessarily the best example of 'intelligent behavior'; it certainly fails to expose many facets of 'intelligent behavior' that obtain in other examples.  Nor does it expose facts of 'intelligent behavior' that must be present for a behavior to count as 'intelligent'.

So, epic fail.  Still.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,13:44   

i don't remember why i wasted all that time in school labelling axes. I coulda just wrote "Percent of y-axis graphed." and been done with it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,14:09   

Here's a couple of old chestnuts pulled out of the fire and offered up again -- with little hope they'll be answered, but they do point up some of the problems.

Gary, is 'molecular intelligence' merely the banal and uncontroversial claim that all intelligence is based in molecules and assemblies of molecules, i.e., is material?
Or are you claiming that at least when 'intelligence' is involved, 'molecular intelligence' refers to the laws of chemistry and physics and something more?
If the former, big whoop -- it's barely a description and certainly not an explanation for anything interesting.
If the latter what else?  How and under what circumstances does this 'something else' exist?  How is it added to the laws of chemistry and physics?  How is it detected?  How is it quantified?

Repeat for 'cellular intelligence' -- do you mean merely the banal and uncontroversial fact that all 'intelligence' arises in cells or assemblies of cells?  If not, what more is there?  Is it always there or only sometimes?  How do you know?  How is it detected?  How is it quantified?
And, just for laughs, how did you "prove" that 'intelligence' can only exist in cells or assemblies of cells?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,14:43   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,12:59)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,10:54)
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,12:45)
So the units of molecular intelligence are (drumroll...) percent?  That's brilliant, Gary.  Have you considered a career as a garden gnome?

I'm done trying to reason with insulting jerk-off's like you.

Done?  When did you start reasoning?  I don't pay regular attention to this thread, and must have missed it.  

Possibly it was one of your devastating argumentum ad shitty music video posts.

In my opinion you came to this forum expecting to have fun playing hero by helping to mock and ridicule someone or something out of science. You did not expect something very well researched that even includes the best of UMass legend Arnold Trehub, who actually did have insight into how human (and other) intelligence works. I was lucky to have early-on found a copy at the Odyssey bookshop (across the street from Mount Holyoke College) when it was brand new to cognitive science. I must have spent a couple thousand hours modeling from it. David Heiserman based models that came before helped make sense of what is most important to know about how the Arnold Trehub model all together works.

If you had studied the text of the theory and knew how the model works (the same for any intelligence that can exist therefore same line charts all over again) then your questions would have already been answered. It would then make sense why the model and theory more than meets expectations of those who are genuinely expecting a useful computer model to experiment with. What makes it this scientifically exciting is what I found most scientifically exciting in all of cognitive science that has been around over the decades. All the rest is only what is now possible from that.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,14:52   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 19 2014,13:17)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,13:54)
I'm done trying to reason with insulting jerk-off's like you.

Pretty sure there's no apostrophe there. Here.

Then make that "wankers".

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,15:02   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,15:43)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,12:59)
 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,10:54)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 19 2014,12:45)
So the units of molecular intelligence are (drumroll...) percent?  That's brilliant, Gary.  Have you considered a career as a garden gnome?

I'm done trying to reason with insulting jerk-off's like you.

Done?  When did you start reasoning?  I don't pay regular attention to this thread, and must have missed it.  

Possibly it was one of your devastating argumentum ad shitty music video posts.

In my opinion you came to this forum expecting to have fun playing hero by helping to mock and ridicule someone or something out of science. You did not expect something very well researched that even includes the best of UMass legend Arnold Trehub, who actually did have insight into how human (and other) intelligence works. I was lucky to have early-on found a copy at the Odyssey bookshop (across the street from Mount Holyoke College) when it was brand new to cognitive science. I must have spent a couple thousand hours modeling from it. David Heiserman based models that came before helped make sense of what is most important to know about how the Arnold Trehub model all together works.

If you had studied the text of the theory and knew how the model works (the same for any intelligence that can exist therefore same line charts all over again) then your questions would have already been answered. It would then make sense why the model and theory more than meets expectations of those who are genuinely expecting a useful computer model to experiment with. What makes it this scientifically exciting is what I found most scientifically exciting in all of cognitive science that has been around over the decades. All the rest is only what is now possible from that.

You're delusional.
Trehub's work may be awesome, but it is no longer anything like cutting edge.
And your work bears very little resemblance to his.  Show us his imprimatur if you think he would approve of your nonsense.
But your self-evaluation of your work is delusional.  It is not 'very well researched' [nothing with a single source is 'well researched'].  The number of hours you've spent on it are irrelevant.  The location where you found the book that inspired you is irrelevant.
As I recall, Wesley has shown pretty thoroughly that your work is not based at all closely or well on Heiserman's.  But even if it were, so what?  You've made a botch of it.
Your nonsense has, as we continue to show, zero explanatory capability.  You seem to know this in some pre-verbal inchoate fashion, as you never, ever, under any circumstances, make the attempt to provide an explanation of any phenomenon generally considered to be an artifact of intelligence using solely your theory, its terms and connections.
All your "theory" can explain is a vast waste of ink and a large number of electrons temporarily inconvenienced by transporting it about the net and onto innocent display screens across the planet.

We have studied the text of the "theory".  The model doesn't "work" in any sense of the term.  If it did you could show when, where, why, and how.  That you cannot is the most epic of your epic fails.  That you will not even attempt to, that you will merely bluster, bloviate, and attempt to distort, deflect, and distract from the questions shows you to have some minimal awareness of the absurdity of your claims.  
This may help explain why your prose is so tortured, but it helps in no other fashion.

How does your "theory" explain the not-at-all controversial act of intelligence required to recognize a melody heard in a different key and tempo from that  already known by the listener?  If it cannot, why not?  What are the limits, the boundaries outside of which your "theory" no longer covers phenomena widely acknowledged to be artifacts of intelligence?
Your claims are widely general, thus they may, and indeed must, be taken to apply to any and all acts of intelligence.  If they cannot, if they do not apply to intelligence as such, wherever found and however expressed, then you do not have a 'theory of intelligence'.  Just as you do not have a 'theory of flight' if you cannot account for birds, flying squirrels, and airplanes.

How is a 'guess' generated?  Guessing is an act of intelligence.  Using the term as part of your "explanation" of intelligence renders your "explanation" illusory, and ultimately false.

And thus we must concur with JohnW's implication that you have not yet begun to reason.  In any sense of the term.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,15:02   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,15:52)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 19 2014,13:17)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,13:54)
I'm done trying to reason with insulting jerk-off's like you.

Pretty sure there's no apostrophe there. Here.

Then make that "wankers".

Poor Gary -- can't even form a proper plural without changing terms.
You idiot.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,16:21   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,12:43)
In my opinion you came to this forum expecting to have fun playing hero by helping to mock and ridicule someone or something out of science.

That's right, Gary.  As soon as I saw you'd joined this forum, I got in my time machine, went back to 2006, and joined it myself.  I just wish I'd remembered to visit my bookie while I was there.

 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,12:43)
You did not expect something very well researched that even includes the best of UMass legend Arnold Trehub, who actually did have insight into how human (and other) intelligence works.

Most cranks claim to be building on the work of Einstein, Cantor or Tesla.  So five points for creativiity.

 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,12:43)
I was lucky to have early-on found a copy at the Odyssey bookshop (across the street from Mount Holyoke College) when it was brand new to cognitive science.

You found a copy near a college?  Why didn't you say so earlier?  That makes your work even more sciency!

 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,12:43)
I must have spent a couple thousand hours modeling from it. David Heiserman based models that came before helped make sense of what is most important to know about how the Arnold Trehub model all together works.

Now matter how many hours you spend, and how many layers of polish you apply, a turd is still a turd.

 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,12:43)
If you had studied the text of the theory and knew how the model works (the same for any intelligence that can exist therefore same line charts all over again) then your questions would have already been answered.

I'm guessing you have spent more time studying the text of the "theory" than anyone else will ever do.  And yet, in answer to the question "what are the units of molecular intelligence?" you give us "Percent of Full Scale".

 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,12:43)
It would then make sense why the model and theory more than meets expectations of those who are genuinely expecting a useful computer model to experiment with.

Who are "those" experimenting with your code, Gary?  Is it just the four people who gave lukewarm reviews at the code-monkey site?  Are they still working with it?

 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,12:43)
What makes it this scientifically exciting is what I found most scientifically exciting in all of cognitive science that has been around over the decades. All the rest is only what is now possible from that.

It's revolutionary, really it is.  Any day now.  You'll see.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,16:48   

We've already established that Gary includes nothing of Trehub's neural systems in his "model" code, and Trehub's block diagram is not a model. Again, if Gary wishes to dispute this, all he need do is provide the file and line number in his late 2012 code that shows a Trehub neural system implementation.

And we've already established that Gary's implementation of Heiserman stops short of the level (gamma) that Heiserman applied "good guess" to describe its operation. Again, if Gary wishes to dispute this, all he need do is provide the file and line number in his late 2012 code that shows a Heiserman gamma robot implementation.

Gary has circled back around to the same bogus assertions he started with here. As I argued early on, citing competent people does not confer competence on the work in which they are cited. Gary is right back to trying to dishonestly claim that his work is made notable because of the work of others. The old line about reviews applies: it is good and original, except that what is original is not good, and what is good is not original.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,17:07   

From model and theory that is supposed to be under discussion:


From Arnold Trehub, "The Cognitive Brain", MIT Press 1991, Chapter 9, Page 158, Fig 9.3

http://people.umass.edu/trehub.....ub....b
http://people.umass.edu/trehub.....er9.pdf

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2014,17:24   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 19 2014,18:07)
From model and theory that is supposed to be under discussion:


From Arnold Trehub, "The Cognitive Brain", MIT Press 1991, Chapter 9, Page 158, Fig 9.3

http://people.umass.edu/trehub.....ub....b
http://people.umass.edu/trehub.....er9.pdf

Entirely non-responsive to Wesley's points.
Although it does continue your ongoing demonstration of your inability to read and your inability to reason.

Models are not explanations.
Trehub's diagram is not a model.
Etc.

  
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