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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: July 07 2012,16:55   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 07 2012,16:44)
Joe Gallien: Experiment = phenomenon = event.

http://www.blogger.com/comment....7262092

Take that science!

I suspect this one will haunt him for a long time...

Oh yeah, record that one with a screen shot!

Of course, he also believes that if you design an experiment, then the results are designed to.  

I'm pretty sure he thinks that if you program a genetic algorithm, then the results are also programmed in.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,09:10   

Joe and nested hierarchies, Part MCCLXXXVIII.
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Paulmc,

Cladistics is based on the tips of the branches. Transitional forms would be those branches- meaning cladistics does not include them. If they were alive today cladograms would be a total mess. That you didn’t know that pretty much says it all.

Do you even know what a nested hierarchy is?

It's clades, Joe, clades that form a nested hierarchy! LOL.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,09:20   

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Joe and nested hierarchies, Part MCCLXXXVIII.
 
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Paulmc,

Cladistics is based on the tips of the branches. Transitional forms would be those branches- meaning cladistics does not include them. If they were alive today cladograms would be a total mess. That you didn’t know that pretty much says it all.

Do you even know what a nested hierarchy is?

It's clades, Joe, clades that form a nested hierarchy! LOL.

I'm learning on his blog that all human endeavours at all times are science. Being a 'scientist' just got a lot easier.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,09:36   

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Quote (olegt @ July 08 2012,09:10)
Joe and nested hierarchies, Part MCCLXXXVIII.
   
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Paulmc,

Cladistics is based on the tips of the branches. Transitional forms would be those branches- meaning cladistics does not include them. If they were alive today cladograms would be a total mess. That you didn’t know that pretty much says it all.

Do you even know what a nested hierarchy is?

It's clades, Joe, clades that form a nested hierarchy! LOL.

I'm learning on his blog that all human endeavours at all times are science. Being a 'scientist' just got a lot easier.

From my one visit, I learned that you do the experiments first, and then make your hypothesis.  I didn't learn how we are supposed to design the experiments without any idea of what we are trying to test, but I'm sure Joe has explained that somewhere.  However, my allergy to idiocy is acting up and I can't go to his blog and find it.  

Somehow, I'll survive.

ETA - I just realized - since I need to go to the bathroom, I am going to be a scientist!  I think, once I am finished, I will yell out in triumph "Science!"

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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,09:54   

Quote (Badger3k @ July 08 2012,09:36)
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 08 2012,09:20)
 
Quote (olegt @ July 08 2012,09:10)
Joe and nested hierarchies, Part MCCLXXXVIII.
   
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Paulmc,

Cladistics is based on the tips of the branches. Transitional forms would be those branches- meaning cladistics does not include them. If they were alive today cladograms would be a total mess. That you didn’t know that pretty much says it all.

Do you even know what a nested hierarchy is?

It's clades, Joe, clades that form a nested hierarchy! LOL.

I'm learning on his blog that all human endeavours at all times are science. Being a 'scientist' just got a lot easier.

From my one visit, I learned that you do the experiments first, and then make your hypothesis.  I didn't learn how we are supposed to design the experiments without any idea of what we are trying to test, but I'm sure Joe has explained that somewhere.  However, my allergy to idiocy is acting up and I can't go to his blog and find it.  

Somehow, I'll survive.

ETA - I just realized - since I need to go to the bathroom, I am going to be a scientist!  I think, once I am finished, I will yell out in triumph "Science!"

I DUN A SCIENCE JUST READING TAHT.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,10:07   

My offer remains open Joe.

Are you scared?

If you were telling the truth all that will happen is that you'll win.

If not.....

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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,10:47   

In all honesty Joe, no tricks... I have one question (with a possible follow-up).  Please answer.

Do you really think that you are right and every other person (including your fellow ID advocates) are wrong?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,11:07   

Quote (OgreMkV @ July 08 2012,10:47)
In all honesty Joe, no tricks... I have one question (with a possible follow-up).  Please answer.

Do you really think that you are right and every other person (including your fellow ID advocates) are wrong?

The shorter version will do.

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,13:24   

Awwww, Joe is trying to argue!
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Jerad: Anyway the definition of a clade is all the descendant taxa of an ancestor taxon. It’s not defined by the existing organisms.

Joe G: Yes I know. However that does not make it so.

Oh, no, Joe, you don't know. It's a definition.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2012,17:37   

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Cladistics is based on the tips of the branches. Transitional forms would be those branches- meaning cladistics does not include them. If they were alive today cladograms would be a total mess. That you didn?t know that pretty much says it all.

If unmodified descendants of an ancestral species were alive, it would indeed be an anomaly to the nested hierarchy. If such a thing were to be discovered, it would require a rewrite of some basic principles, since (as I understand it) a species will accumulate mutations over time. So even if one branch of descendants retains the anatomy of the ancestor, it would be expected to show as much genetic difference from the ancestor as do the other (anatomically modified) descendants.

But that does leave the question of why what's his name would think pointing this out helps his case in any way; anybody who's studied the subject already knows that the nested hierarchy thing refers to species living at the same time.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2012,03:18   

Creationists like to point to the morphology of "living fossils", e.g. the Tuatara or the Coelacanths, to prove that those "kinds" didn't change over millions of years. However, genetics tell a different story.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2012,07:08   

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Creationists like to point to the morphology of "living fossils", e.g. the Tuatara or the Coelacanths, to prove that those "kinds" didn't change over millions of years. However, genetics tell a different story.

Yes, it's a coelacanth.  No, it's not the exact same species (or even genus IIRC) as the coelacanth's from 150 mya.

Perhaps if the creationists (and Joe, whatever he is) actually learned about the things before arguing using them...

what am I saying?

yes, apparently it is too much to ask for logic, consistency, and actual knowledge.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2012,09:08   

Quote (OgreMkV @ July 09 2012,05:08)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 09 2012,03:18)
Creationists like to point to the morphology of "living fossils", e.g. the Tuatara or the Coelacanths, to prove that those "kinds" didn't change over millions of years. However, genetics tell a different story.

Yes, it's a coelacanth.  No, it's not the exact same species (or even genus IIRC) as the coelacanth's from 150 mya.

Perhaps if the creationists (and Joe, whatever he is) actually learned about the things before arguing using them...

what am I saying?

yes, apparently it is too much to ask for logic, consistency, and actual knowledge.

And apparently it's too much to ask for them to actually DO any science. All they do is tell scientists HOW to do science.

joey is a good example of that. Take a look at his site and everything he says elsewhere and what do you see? Post after post of him trying to tell people how to do, define, and interpret experiments, GAs, and every other aspect of science. joey, and the other IDiots, never actually DO any science, but they sure do think that they are the only ones who know HOW to do science.

In their arrogant and feeble minds they know everything. They think that they know how to do experiments and how to interpret data. They think that they know how to define and do science better than scientists themselves. If scientists do, define, or interpret something that contradicts what the IDiots believe, the scientists must be doing it, defining it, or interpreting it wrong. joey and the rest of the IDiots believe that they are right in advance, and no amount of showing them otherwise will have any effect on them. They are experts at everything, or so they erroneously believe.

They are prime examples of the 'armchair quarterback'. They have never played the game, have never been on the field, have never even practiced, and don't even know the rules, yet they think that they have already won the Superbowl and the MVP award and should get a ticker tape parade in their honor.

The IDiots are insanely jealous, and envious. They want all of the attention, credit, and awards but aren't willing to put in the effort it takes to actually accomplish something. They spend their lives trying to make themselves feel big and smart by attacking people who have put in the effort, paid their dues, played by the rules, and received credit for their hard work.

They constantly complain about being left out (expelled) even though they have never even tried to be involved. They're not team players and they want to make up their own rules, and they think that the science 'team' or 'league' should come running to them to recruit them. They obviously think that they can make the team or league into a winner and that their superior talents and knowledge are being ignored. They believe that they have the 'right' to be the coach, the star player, the trainer, the owner, the referee, the management, and the commissioner even though they haven't even earned the privilege to be the water boy.


ETA: fixed a typo

Edited by The whole truth on July 09 2012,07:11

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2012,09:32   

Yep.  I agree totally.

I have offered to help almost every creationist and ID proponent that I've talked to.  

I (and I think the majority of scientists) would be thrilled to actually have a valid hypothesis.  Have a series of tests to run, in cooperation with Behe (for example) and determine once and for all what the most likely answer is.

But that's the one thing that, almost by definition, can't happen with ID.  Because, despite what Joey thinks, ID is a religion.  It is based on the supernatural.  Which, cannot be tested by science.  Actually, the results can be tested by science, but in hundreds of years of looking, no verifiable evidence of anything supernatural has ever been found.  There is no signature in the cell... or anywhere else.

Joey, I think, is a special case.  He absolutely thinks that he is right about everything and everyone else on this planet is wrong.  Heck, I've even seen him attack someone who was agreeing with him.  Joey exists in his own little world and the rest of the world is better off with him there.  He's the Coppedge of the Northeast US.  He's actually probably worse.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2012,10:18   

... and why should he change his game plan? The little attention whore is getting just what he wants by being just the way he is.

edit. morning fingers

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2012,10:34   

Quote (OgreMkV @ July 09 2012,07:32)
Yep.  I agree totally.

I have offered to help almost every creationist and ID proponent that I've talked to.  

I (and I think the majority of scientists) would be thrilled to actually have a valid hypothesis.  Have a series of tests to run, in cooperation with Behe (for example) and determine once and for all what the most likely answer is.

But that's the one thing that, almost by definition, can't happen with ID.  Because, despite what Joey thinks, ID is a religion.  It is based on the supernatural.  Which, cannot be tested by science.  Actually, the results can be tested by science, but in hundreds of years of looking, no verifiable evidence of anything supernatural has ever been found.  There is no signature in the cell... or anywhere else.

Joey, I think, is a special case.  He absolutely thinks that he is right about everything and everyone else on this planet is wrong.  Heck, I've even seen him attack someone who was agreeing with him.  Joey exists in his own little world and the rest of the world is better off with him there.  He's the Coppedge of the Northeast US.  He's actually probably worse.

Yeah, people who think they already know everything don't think they need any help and take offense at the offer of help. And they aren't willing to 'cooperate' either. All they want to do is dictate.

joey certainly is in his own little world, and it's an extremely limited and insecure world.

Like you said, ID is a religion, based on the supernatural, and a valid scientific hypothesis doesn't exist and isn't going to be forthcoming. The IDiots are wrong in thinking that scientists shun ID just to be defiantly biased. They shun it because it isn't scientific. As you said, if there were a valid hypothesis, many scientists would be eager to positively consider and test it.

I'm off to do some science now. I'll be spending the day in a beautiful mountain setting, in nice weather, observing, photographing, and enjoying many things in nature, and I doubt that joey and the rest of the IDiots will cross my mind for a second. It will be a great day. :)

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2012,11:57   

Poster boys for Dunning-Kruger syndrome...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2012,02:38   

How well do you know the crazy world of Joe? Who might be addressed here?    
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Just because your having sex with your mother and other types of animals gets you points with evoTARDS, those points don't carry any weight around here.

Just to be clear ........... (insert correct answer here) - you are a sick fuck liar and a coward.


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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2012,11:16   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 10 2012,00:38)
How well do you know the crazy world of Joe? Who might be addressed here?    
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Just because your having sex with your mother and other types of animals gets you points with evoTARDS, those points don't carry any weight around here.

Just to be clear ........... (insert correct answer here) - you are a sick fuck liar and a coward.

All of us, obviously.  Surely you remember the Evil Darwinist Conspiracy initiation ceremony?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2012,16:39   

Quote (The whole truth @ July 09 2012,09:08)
Quote (OgreMkV @ July 09 2012,05:08)
 
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 09 2012,03:18)
Creationists like to point to the morphology of "living fossils", e.g. the Tuatara or the Coelacanths, to prove that those "kinds" didn't change over millions of years. However, genetics tell a different story.

Yes, it's a coelacanth.  No, it's not the exact same species (or even genus IIRC) as the coelacanth's from 150 mya.

Perhaps if the creationists (and Joe, whatever he is) actually learned about the things before arguing using them...

what am I saying?

yes, apparently it is too much to ask for logic, consistency, and actual knowledge.

And apparently it's too much to ask for them to actually DO any science. All they do is tell scientists HOW to do science.

joey is a good example of that. Take a look at his site and everything he says elsewhere and what do you see? Post after post of him trying to tell people how to do, define, and interpret experiments, GAs, and every other aspect of science. joey, and the other IDiots, never actually DO any science, but they sure do think that they are the only ones who know HOW to do science.

In their arrogant and feeble minds they know everything. They think that they know how to do experiments and how to interpret data. They think that they know how to define and do science better than scientists themselves. If scientists do, define, or interpret something that contradicts what the IDiots believe, the scientists must be doing it, defining it, or interpreting it wrong. joey and the rest of the IDiots believe that they are right in advance, and no amount of showing them otherwise will have any effect on them. They are experts at everything, or so they erroneously believe.

They are prime examples of the 'armchair quarterback'. They have never played the game, have never been on the field, have never even practiced, and don't even know the rules, yet they think that they have already won the Superbowl and the MVP award and should get a ticker tape parade in their honor.

The IDiots are insanely jealous, and envious. They want all of the attention, credit, and awards but aren't willing to put in the effort it takes to actually accomplish something. They spend their lives trying to make themselves feel big and smart by attacking people who have put in the effort, paid their dues, played by the rules, and received credit for their hard work.

They constantly complain about being left out (expelled) even though they have never even tried to be involved. They're not team players and they want to make up their own rules, and they think that the science 'team' or 'league' should come running to them to recruit them. They obviously think that they can make the team or league into a winner and that their superior talents and knowledge are being ignored. They believe that they have the 'right' to be the coach, the star player, the trainer, the owner, the referee, the management, and the commissioner even though they haven't even earned the privilege to be the water boy.


ETA: fixed a typo

Excuse my digressing: I may have mentioned it before, but the coelecanth is a special friend of mine. I have a distinct memory of how during my meanderings through the city of Trondheim one day in 1938, I read in the window of the "Nidaros" daily about a fish being found, believed to have been extinct for 50 millionyears.

I was unable to make sense of it: How could they know or think it had been extinct for 50 million years when it actually still was around? Already on the path that has been mine all through life: To find out things all by myself, it didn't even occur to me that I might ask, for instance, my father about it.

I guess it wasn't before at 13, in 1943 that I read a book about paleontology that I began to understand. For a long time after that I dreamed of becoming a paleontologist.

I am relieved I never tried; reading about the hardships experienced by Richard Fortey or Neil Shubin, I know I wouldn't have made it.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2012,18:01   

Yes Quack, as a child, I wanted to become a palaeontologist, too. Our biology teacher fascinated us with the story about the first coelacanth's discovery, but I was even more impressed by the dinosaurs.
Sadly, I was a coward and became a teacher after all.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2012,21:59   

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Yes Quack, as a child, I wanted to become a palaeontologist, too. Our biology teacher fascinated us with the story about the first coelacanth's discovery, but I was even more impressed by the dinosaurs.
Sadly, I was a coward and became a teacher after all.

I wonder how many of us sciency types as children didn't want to be paleontologists?  At least when we weren't wanting to be pro athletes, fighter pilots, or rock stars.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2012,22:10   

I was about 11 when All About Dinosaurs came out. I think it may have started the dino craze. About the same time Live Magazine came out with a series called The Epic of Man.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2012,22:32   

When I was 6 or so my family took a trip to D.C. and the Smithsonian.  I apparently talked about the dinosaurs the entire drive there from Arkansas.  We arrived to find the dinosaur hall of the museum was closed for renovations.  End. of. the. World.  I was inconsolable.

I did get to back in the mid-90s.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2012,23:16   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 10 2012,16:01)
Yes Quack, as a child, I wanted to become a palaeontologist, too. Our biology teacher fascinated us with the story about the first coelacanth's discovery, but I was even more impressed by the dinosaurs.
Sadly, I was a coward and became a teacher after all.

Ha! Teachers are NOT cowards.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 12 2012,10:15   

Hi Joe, long time no see. Won't you come over to play? We could discuss an interesting TV programme:



It's produced by National Geographic, it must be scientific! I bet you are watching and recording it.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,13:50   

In a comment on his blog, joey says:

"ID makes the same claims as archaeology and forensics, namely that when agencies act they tend to leave traces of those actions behind. Then, via cause and effect relationships, we can detect those traces and study them.

That said, as per Newton's rules for scientific discovery, if what someone thinks is designed can be produced by blind and undirected processes, the design inference falls. And that is how it has gone throughout history.

Some design inferences have been refuted and others have withstood all tests.

So, just as with archaeology and forensics, we study thed esign and all relevant evidence to help us figure it out and hopefully answer those unanswered questions.

Ooops- yes there is a criteria for determining design:

The criteria for inferring design in biology is, as Michael J. Behe, Professor of Biochemistry at Leheigh University, puts it in his book Darwin ' s Black Box: "Our ability to be confident of the design of the cilium or intracellular transport rests on the same principles to be confident of the design of anything: the ordering of separate components to achieve an identifiable function that depends sharply on the components.”

He goes on to say:
” Might there be some as-yet-undiscovered natural process that would explain biochemical complexity? No one would be foolish enough to categorically deny the possibility. Nonetheless, we can say that if there is such a process, no one has a clue how it would work. Further, it would go against all human experience, like postulating that a natural process might explain computers.”"

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Hey joey g, since you claim to know all about experiments, tests, traces, complexity, relevant evidence, intelligent design (including the criteria for determining it), baraminology, origins, GAs, code, CSI, and absolutely every aspect of science, let's see you put all that claimed knowledge to work, and this (a wild banana) will be the subject of your 'study':



Is the wild banana intelligently designed? How much CSI is in it? Describe and demonstrate the GA/code in the banana and specify where it resides in the banana. What 'kind' is the banana and where and how did the banana originate? Who or what designed wild bananas and when was it done? What raw materials were used and where did those materials come from? Why did the alleged designer design bananas? What traces are there in wild bananas that indicate or verify intelligent design? Show all the details of your banana tests/experiments/calculations/study so that we can all see how you arrived at your conclusions.

Edited by The whole truth on July 13 2012,11:55

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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,14:26   

EDIT. Soon.

Edited by oldmanintheskydidntdoit on July 13 2012,14:27

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,14:31   

Of course, the "this looks designed" trope.

Ho hum.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,10:34   

Denyse doesn't give up: "Adam and Eve could be real?"

Commenter SamHManning tries reason:  
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If all extant humans arose from a single breeding pair, producing phenotypes as diverse as those found in the diminutive, dark-skinned pygmies and the towering, blond fair-skinned Dutch, I have to wonder why cheetahs are having such a hard time.

And Joe can haz praydickshun: The end is near!111!!!!  
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Cheetahs are at their end, just as the pygmies and Dutch.

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Barry Arrington is a bitch.

  
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