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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,06:20   

The approach I take to respecting someone's desire for anonymity is to honour it unless the person is abusive or makes false claims about someone, something that Gordon and Louis do frequently.

But I must admit that I take childish pleasure in pushing Barry and Gordon to see how much it takes to get banned. But I do it more as a social experiment that for the pure pleasure. The most recent was to repeatedly bait Barry about his lack of action on Joe after giving him his last warning. I even sent as far as calling him a liar and a pathetic snivelling coward (a phrase that Barry has used himself because I refuse to respond to a loaded question). To his credit, he did not ban me for this, although he was too cowardly to respond at all. I wasn't banned until I received a first strike call from Gordon for using his first name in a comment.

  
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,08:08   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Nov. 21 2014,08:30)
internet persona.

The internet IS real. Gordon is a far-right wing scumbag.

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,08:15   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 21 2014,11:20)
The approach I take to respecting someone's desire for anonymity is to honour it unless the person is abusive or makes false claims about someone, something that Gordon and Louis do frequently.

Mapou could be as polite as a vicar's daughter, all should still be warned of any sighting of the crank Louis Savain.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,08:42   

I've been thinking lately that one of the differences between good guys and bad guys is code of conduct. Otherwise it's just a power struggle.  I don't always follow this code myself.

And it's not like potassium fluoride has any actual political power or anything, he's just a bug-eyed street preacher. Loud and mean-spirited and windy, sure, but certainly no threat.

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,08:50   

Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 21 2014,13:42)
And it's not like potassium fluoride has any actual political power or anything

Allegedly, and sadly for the people of Montserrat to the extent he isn't exaggerating, he does.
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Changing the subject, the username Alicia Renard tickles me. Cute.

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BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,09:02   

Talking of KF, I see that he has posted a succession of posts at UD 'Correcting' things that cropped up in the latest FIASCO discussions ... all comments are OFF of course because ... well because allowing people tell you you are wrong would just be wrong.

  
KevinB



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,12:02   

Quote (BillB @ Nov. 21 2014,09:02)
Talking of KF, I see that he has posted a succession of posts at UD 'Correcting' things that cropped up in the latest FIASCO discussions ... all comments are OFF of course because ... well because allowing people tell you you are wrong would just be wrong.

I thought it was the same post repeated, and assumed it was a demonstration that information cannot be created in the absence of intelligence.

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,12:22   

Quote (KevinB @ Nov. 21 2014,12:02)
Quote (BillB @ Nov. 21 2014,09:02)
Talking of KF, I see that he has posted a succession of posts at UD 'Correcting' things that cropped up in the latest FIASCO discussions ... all comments are OFF of course because ... well because allowing people tell you you are wrong would just be wrong.

I thought it was the same post repeated, and assumed it was a demonstration that information cannot be created in the absence of intelligence.

I thought that they were just evidence that a random reshuffling of code (language) can be a good model of evolution.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2014,20:56   

Quote (Driver @ Nov. 21 2014,08:50)

Allegedly, and sadly for the people of Montserrat to the extent he isn't exaggerating, he does.

I think I've found the fatal flaw in your argument.

  
BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,03:53   

Quote (KevinB @ Nov. 21 2014,18:02)
Quote (BillB @ Nov. 21 2014,09:02)
Talking of KF, I see that he has posted a succession of posts at UD 'Correcting' things that cropped up in the latest FIASCO discussions ... all comments are OFF of course because ... well because allowing people tell you you are wrong would just be wrong.

I thought it was the same post repeated, and assumed it was a demonstration that information cannot be created in the absence of intelligence.

Rotfl.
POTW.

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,11:22   

Barry Arrington has posted a new Darwinian Debating Device. He is now up to #18. As best I can tell, this is about Darwinians denying what they have previously said. As evidence, he uses a series of comments made by Adapa. Even though Adapa clearly pointed out that Barry was quote mining and taking Adapa's words out of context, Barry refuses to acknowledge this.

DDD#18

  
Leftfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,13:06   

Barry
 
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BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong.


I do feel silly, and I must admit I was wrong. It turns out UDers are not able to handle basic logic. My mistake.

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,13:57   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 22 2014,11:22)
Barry Arrington has posted a new Darwinian Debating Device. He is now up to #18. As best I can tell, this is about Darwinians denying what they have previously said. As evidence, he uses a series of comments made by Adapa. Even though Adapa clearly pointed out that Barry was quote mining and taking Adapa's words out of context, Barry refuses to acknowledge this.

DDD#18

Bully Arrington is being a huge scumbucket over this, continuing to deliberately make false claims against a pro-science poster even after being repeatedly corrected.

Way to go Bully, you're the best!    :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,13:58   

Quote (Leftfield @ Nov. 22 2014,19:06)
Barry
 
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BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong.


I do feel silly, and I must admit I was wrong. It turns out UDers are not able to handle basic logic. My mistake.

Heh heh. Barry's quote is sig-worthy. In fact ...

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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,16:16   

Coffee Spit-take!!

sparc:    
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KF, did relevant figures in the ID field like Dr. Dembski, Dr. Behe or Dr. Marks ever refer to your FSCO/I?
My impression is that even Winston Ewert avoided this term in his recent posts. Isn’t this frustrating or don’t you have the impression that your posts are being ignored.

Axel:    
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sparc, Kairosfocus is an extraordinary polymath by any standards, so don’t hold it against Dembski, Behe and Marks, if they find acronymic neologisms KF comes up with not easy to fall in with and adopt, straight away.

Will Dembski, Behe and/or Marks please respond. Thank you.

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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,16:28   

Barry the bible-slinger:  
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Hopefully, I will be in Proverbs 26:5 territory (and not Proverbs 26:4 territory) when I point out the following: . . .

Adapa slings back:  
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Barry Arrington

Hopefully, I will be in Proverbs 26:5 territory (and not Proverbs 26:4 territory) when I point out the following:

As long as you keep willfully misrepresenting what I said you’re in Exodus 23:1 territory.

italics in original

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F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,19:39   

Could someone smarter and wiser please translate this recent comment by Gordo?

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Pardon but you are recirculating long since — many months ago — adequately answered objections. That seems to reflect the message dominance view on which reasoned discussion based on evident fact takes a back seat to manipulation creating perceptions and impressions that dominate how people think.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,19:46   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 23 2014,03:39)
Could someone smarter and wiser please translate this recent comment by Gordo?

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Pardon but you are recirculating long since — many months ago — adequately answered objections. That seems to reflect the message dominance view on which reasoned discussion based on evident fact takes a back seat to manipulation creating perceptions and impressions that dominate how people think.

The loudspeaker in the ceiling is picking up another station.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,19:56   

Quote (paragwinn @ Nov. 23 2014,00:28)
Barry the bible-slinger:    
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Hopefully, I will be in Proverbs 26:5 territory (and not Proverbs 26:4 territory) when I point out the following: . . .

Adapa slings back:    
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Barry Arrington

Hopefully, I will be in Proverbs 26:5 territory (and not Proverbs 26:4 territory) when I point out the following:

As long as you keep willfully misrepresenting what I said you’re in Exodus 23:1 territory.

italics in original

Not to mention John, Matthew &James. God Barrie's a tard.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,20:07   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 22 2014,19:39)
Could someone smarter and wiser please translate this recent comment by Gordo?

   
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Pardon but you are recirculating long since — many months ago — adequately answered objections. That seems to reflect the message dominance view on which reasoned discussion based on evident fact takes a back seat to manipulation creating perceptions and impressions that dominate how people think.

Perhaps Gary Gaulin's posts are having some effect after all?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,20:57   

That's what happens when a site isn't vaccinated.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,21:27   

Kairosflatus has now taken to going into and modifying Adapa's posts.  What a cowardly piece of shit the Manjack Heights mauler is.   :angry:

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,21:51   

Anyone who wants to an apologist for him should go and look at his behavior there right now.

He is absolutely despicable.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,22:16   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 22 2014,21:51)
Anyone who wants to be an apologist for him should go and look at his behavior there right now.

He is absolutely despicable.

The only other person I can recall doing that is Slimy Sal Cordova.

Even Dembski and Dave Scott on their worst days didn't go in and change people's posts.

Despicable isn't a strong enough word for it.

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,22:30   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 22 2014,21:27)
Kairosflatus has now taken to going into and modifying Adapa's posts.  What a cowardly piece of shit the Manjack Heights mauler is.   :angry:

Apparently Gordon Mullings has taken his ball and gone home.
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Okay, that’s it. Adapa insists on abusive behaviour, thread over. KF

What a gutless little coward.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,22:39   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 22 2014,22:30)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 22 2014,21:27)
Kairosflatus has now taken to going into and modifying Adapa's posts.  What a cowardly piece of shit the Manjack Heights mauler is.   :angry:

Apparently Gordon Mullings has taken his ball and gone home.
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Okay, that’s it. Adapa insists on abusive behaviour, thread over. KF

What a gutless little coward.

To be fair: it's a lot of work to write both sides of a conversation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,22:43   

Mung:

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MungNovember 22, 2014 at 10:32 pm
Adapa, your judgment about what constitutes trolling is suspect, and Tamara already admitted to making up the term “Dembski Information.”


Hmmm:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi....pdf

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Dembski's information concept also has difficulties (Shallit and Elsberry 2004, Elsberry and Shallit 2011). It is unable to adequately distinguish the level of surprise in an outcome of 200 heads in a row and an outcome of 180 heads mixed with 20 tails. Both are equally likely with inline image. While both might exhibit CSI, the first outcome would be considered a far greater surprise than the second. Once it becomes clear that the deficiency in randomness is a better measure of D-information than the one used by Dembski, the meaning of the so-called fourth law emerges. Instead of the quantifying the amount of D-information in string inline image by inline image, a modified measure inline image is taken to be inline image. The D-information contained in inline image becomes the number of bits separating the ordered string from a random or typical one. This makes sense as more highly ordered strings embody more D-information.


Dembski's  information concept = Dembski information?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,22:57   

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HeKSNovember 22, 2014 at 10:52 pm
KF,

Was it really necessary to end the other thread on account of Adapa’s nonsense?

I wasn’t done.




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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,23:17   

http://theidiotsofintelligentdesign.blogspot.com/2011.......gy.html

http://theidiotsofintelligentdesign.blogspot.com/2011.......le.html

http://theidiotsofintelligentdesign.blogspot.com/2011.......in.html

http://theidiotsofintelligentdesign.blogspot.com/2011.......ty.html

And don't miss this one:

http://theidiotsofintelligentdesign.blogspot.com/2011.......ke.html

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2014,23:46   

I am (was) Adapa at UD.

Let it be known that Gordon E Mullings AKA Kairosfocus has now silently locked out my 'Adapa' account, effectively banning me.  I can still log in but can't post.

It was his decision alone, not Barry's who was not around. I'd bet my house the others who have silently disappeared in the last few weeks are his doing too.  I've never seen such craven behavior by any so-called adult in my life.

Maybe someone can let keith s know so he can spread the word at UD of the chickenshit's cowardly actions.

  
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