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Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2009,16:13    The October 1984 issue of SciAm had an article on a Travesty Generator. In 1987, I added a test based on a binomial distribution (IIRC) for a class project, using the n-gram analysis idea from the Travesty Generator to come up with an info theory-based test of similarity between separate texts. And the "Programming in Perl" book has a travesty generator as an example, plus there is "disassociated press" in Emacs. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

AmandaHuginKiss Posts: 150 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2009,20:34    At one stage SA was a great source for computing fun. When they had the articles on Mandlebrot plots, I'm sure that servers in computers across the world slowed down.

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2009,16:15    I'm having problems with my PC and I am hoping someone out there can help me.   I am having intermittent problems with the DSL connection. While using a browser and Outlook Express, I will suddenly not be able to connect to anything for a minute or two, then it will start working again. I know it isn't the DSL service or modem because I have a work PC on the same line through a router and it continues to work fine when the home computer doesn't. I don't think it is the ports on the router or the back of the PC, because the problem seems to be limited to Firefox, IE, or Outlook Express. Other programs, like iTunes, continue to work fine downloading while ther browser is flaking out. Any suggestions how to fix this? Added Later: Interestingly, I am streaming a baseball game through Firefox (with adobe Flash) without any interruptions, but still have intermittent problems just surfing around. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2009,19:01    Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 07 2009,16:15) I'm having problems with my PC and I am hoping someone out there can help me.   I am having intermittent problems with the DSL connection. While using a browser and Outlook Express, I will suddenly not be able to connect to anything for a minute or two, then it will start working again. I know it isn't the DSL service or modem because I have a work PC on the same line through a router and it continues to work fine when the home computer doesn't. I don't think it is the ports on the router or the back of the PC, because the problem seems to be limited to Firefox, IE, or Outlook Express. Other programs, like iTunes, continue to work fine downloading while ther browser is flaking out. Any suggestions how to fix this? Call Joe Gallion? -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2009,21:57    Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 07 2009,16:15) I'm having problems with my PC and I am hoping someone out there can help me.   I am having intermittent problems with the DSL connection. While using a browser and Outlook Express, I will suddenly not be able to connect to anything for a minute or two, then it will start working again. I know it isn't the DSL service or modem because I have a work PC on the same line through a router and it continues to work fine when the home computer doesn't. I don't think it is the ports on the router or the back of the PC, because the problem seems to be limited to Firefox, IE, or Outlook Express. Other programs, like iTunes, continue to work fine downloading while ther browser is flaking out. Any suggestions how to fix this? Added Later: Interestingly, I am streaming a baseball game through Firefox (with adobe Flash) without any interruptions, but still have intermittent problems just surfing around. I can relate to computer issues...I have no advice, just sympathy. My computer just died last week and I lost a lot of bookmarks and email addresses - fortunately most of the really important stuff other than that was on a portable hard drive that was unaffected. I'm back online almost entirely due to the generosity of CBEBS. Thanks to all who helped. -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2009,22:44    If established connections work, but browsing is slow of intermittent, I'd suspect DNS. Or malware. Or a firewall issue. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2009,23:23    Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 07 2009,22:44) If established connections work, but browsing is slow of intermittent, I'd suspect DNS. Or malware. Or a firewall issue. Or glitchy driver or .dll IE and OE both had a tendency (in the past, dunno about now) to try and "establish" their own connections, regardless of the DSL. That might still play havoc for all I know. -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

Quack Posts: 1961 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,03:28    What about OS version? -------------- Rocks have no biology.               Robert Byers.

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,07:25    Quote (Quack @ Aug. 08 2009,03:28) What about OS version? Windows XP, Version 2002, SP 2. I've run two scans, one with AVG on with Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware and didn't find anything. I am also not running a firewall as I am on a router and the AVG firewall was interfering with my wife's work VPN.  I may dig out my old OS disks and try re-installing it. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,08:41    Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 08 2009,07:25) Quote (Quack @ Aug. 08 2009,03:28) What about OS version? Windows XP, Version 2002, SP 2. I've run two scans, one with AVG on with Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware and didn't find anything. I am also not running a firewall as I am on a router and the AVG firewall was interfering with my wife's work VPN.  I may dig out my old OS disks and try re-installing it. I think that the DNS explanation makes the most sense. A quick way to find out if your ISP's DNS servers are flaky is to use some other servers, like Open DNS. If you know how to map DNS servers for your connection, just swap in the Open DNS server IP numbers and see if it helps. It's a lot quicker than reinstalling everything! -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

rhmc Posts: 340 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,08:53    does the problem only appear when running outlook and a browser?

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,09:33    Quote I think that the DNS explanation makes the most sense. A quick way to find out if your ISP's DNS servers are flaky is to use some other servers, like Open DNS. The reason I mentioned DNS is that my work computer exhibited this behavior a couple days ago, so I added OPEN DNS to the list, and the problem went away. The company firewall manages DNS, and it allows more than two servers. The DSL provider is Bellsouth, which is transitioning to AT&T. Lots of weirdness happening. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,10:15    Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 08 2009,09:33) Quote I think that the DNS explanation makes the most sense. A quick way to find out if your ISP's DNS servers are flaky is to use some other servers, like Open DNS. The reason I mentioned DNS is that my work computer exhibited this behavior a couple days ago, so I added OPEN DNS to the list, and the problem went away. The company firewall manages DNS, and it allows more than two servers. The DSL provider is Bellsouth, which is transitioning to AT&T. Lots of weirdness happening. My DSL is through SBC/ATT and hasn't been perfect. I will have one instance per day where I will lose the DSL connection for 30 seconds or so.  I can clearly see the lose of connection on the modem, so I have to assume it is on the provider side. That has been going on for a year or so, but isn't that problematic.  This intermittent connect problem has been going on several weeks and is more annoying. So, I installed OpenDNS and it seems to be more stable, if a little slower.  But, I have water line problems that need to be attended to, so I'll have to defer giving it a more extended test run.   Thanks all for the suggestions. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,12:28    As a compromise you can use your ISP as the first DNS server and Open DNS as the second server. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,23:22    One thing I've seen mentioned in threads about networking issues is address conflicts - two machines trying to use the same address at the same time, with unpredictable (perhaps flaky?) results. Henry

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2009,23:57    Windows is smart enough to notice two computers attempting to use the same IP address, and to give an appropriate message. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

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