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JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2014,14:51    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 24 2014,12:37) No BABot? No chance.  The window's too small. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2014,14:55    Quote (Patrick @ Nov. 24 2014,14:25) Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 24 2014,13:58) Quote (Learned Hand @ Nov. 24 2014,12:22) Happens in law, too. When young lawyers get a grip on exciting new vocabulary, they go berserk over-writing everything. And it can make them seem impressive to laypeople. But over time, the good ones spend a lot of effort trying to simplify their writing (and speaking) to get more precise and effective. The bad ones just learn more stock phrases to plug into their ramblings. KF and Joe could be successfully simulated using Markov chains. Well, they probably could but that would be a waste of several lunch hours to hack up. PotW. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Patrick Posts: 666 Joined: July 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2014,15:00    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 24 2014,15:37) No BABot? Too many quotes -- scarily enough it takes a more sophisticated algorithm to model BA than the rest of the UD crew.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2014,19:08    Quote (Patrick @ Nov. 24 2014,14:25)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 24 2014,13:58)     Quote (Learned Hand @ Nov. 24 2014,12:22) Happens in law, too. When young lawyers get a grip on exciting new vocabulary, they go berserk over-writing everything. And it can make them seem impressive to laypeople. But over time, the good ones spend a lot of effort trying to simplify their writing (and speaking) to get more precise and effective. The bad ones just learn more stock phrases to plug into their ramblings. KF and Joe could be successfully simulated using Markov chains. Well, they probably could but that would be a waste of several lunch hours to hack up. The JoeBot doesn't have enough "fuck assface you molest little boys in the men's room" passages. Otherwise 10.0! -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Patrick Posts: 666 Joined: July 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,13:14    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 24 2014,20:08) Quote (Patrick @ Nov. 24 2014,14:25)     Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 24 2014,13:58)     Quote (Learned Hand @ Nov. 24 2014,12:22) Happens in law, too. When young lawyers get a grip on exciting new vocabulary, they go berserk over-writing everything. And it can make them seem impressive to laypeople. But over time, the good ones spend a lot of effort trying to simplify their writing (and speaking) to get more precise and effective. The bad ones just learn more stock phrases to plug into their ramblings. KF and Joe could be successfully simulated using Markov chains. Well, they probably could but that would be a waste of several lunch hours to hack up. The JoeBot doesn't have enough "fuck assface you molest little boys in the men's room" passages. Otherwise 10.0! Perhaps I should seed it with his posts on TSZ as well.

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,15:15    What, no mention of discontinuities in the Uprightbot text? -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,15:31    Oh, Danyse... Quote People would not engage in these antics if they thought they could compete in an open forum. That's just asking for trouble. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,16:26    Quote (Bob O'H @ Nov. 25 2014,15:31) Oh, Danyse... Quote People would not engage in these antics if they thought they could compete in an open forum. That's just asking for trouble. Paging KirosFocus. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,05:22    A brief summary of the latest Keith S Bomb threadat UD: Vishnu asks if Keith and Adapa are homosexuals. Andre still peddling PCD. Quest says,   Quote Don’t you think it is related to the whole objective off this blog to try to prove "….." like you to be wrong…? I mean, there is a limit at to what ID’s can provide for a "….." like you… Vishnu and Quest are banned. William tries various rebuttals. Most of these are fatal to ID.  None are successful. Nor very sensible. Box invokes the classic creationist 2LOT argument, William says "good one!".   William links to two pictures of crop circles. Andre quotes CS Lewis mocking those who disdain truth and accept only what they find "helpful" . Keith quotes William explaining that he believes what is helpful and doesn't care what is true. Mung says Keith has sneakily amended his argument. Keith links to his presentation of the argument in 2012 and swears he is not a timetraveller. Several UD commenters insist languages don't evolve but were designed. drc466 presents a great poe: 'No-one would claim, for example that Indian and European languages have a common ancestor.' Heks complains that Keith is answering him before he is ready. -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

Patrick Posts: 666 Joined: July 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,09:21    Quote (Driver @ Nov. 26 2014,06:22) A brief summary of the latest Keith S Bomb threadat UD: Vishnu asks if Keith and Adapa are homosexuals. . . . . He's probably just trying to help KairosFocus find a date.  They're a tolerant, giving group over there.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,10:11    We're doomed. Logically_speaking invokes the platypus. Game over. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,10:54    Quote (midwifetoad @ Nov. 26 2014,10:11) We're doomed. Logically_speaking invokes the platypus. Game over. Does he know the difference between a nested hierarchy and a nesting hierarchy?

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,11:07    Nesting is for the birds. But since you brought it up, I'm unfamiliar with the terminology, the distinction. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,13:43    Quote (Driver @ Nov. 26 2014,06:22) A brief summary of the latest Keith S Bomb threadat UD: Vishnu asks if Keith and Adapa are homosexuals. Andre still peddling PCD. Quest says,   Quote Don’t you think it is related to the whole objective off this blog to try to prove "….." like you to be wrong…? I mean, there is a limit at to what ID’s can provide for a "….." like you… Vishnu and Quest are banned. William tries various rebuttals. Most of these are fatal to ID.  None are successful. Nor very sensible. Box invokes the classic creationist 2LOT argument, William says "good one!".   William links to two pictures of crop circles. Andre quotes CS Lewis mocking those who disdain truth and accept only what they find "helpful" . Keith quotes William explaining that he believes what is helpful and doesn't care what is true. Mung says Keith has sneakily amended his argument. Keith links to his presentation of the argument in 2012 and swears he is not a timetraveller. Several UD commenters insist languages don't evolve but were designed. drc466 presents a great poe: 'No-one would claim, for example that Indian and European languages have a common ancestor.' Heks complains that Keith is answering him before he is ready. Driver, you're the bestest.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,17:28    Quote (midwifetoad @ Nov. 26 2014,10:11) We're doomed. Logically_speaking invokes the platypus. Game over. Checkmate, Materialists! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,19:46    Apparently Barry posted an OP and then removed it when it became untenable. Talk about controlling the message. See Keith's comment at 49. Barry's oops.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,20:03    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 26 2014,19:46) Apparently Barry posted an OP and then removed it when it became untenable. Talk about controlling the message. See Keith's comment at 49. Barry's oops. The fact it was titled: "Keiths, the gift that keeps giving to ID" adds the the hilarity. Reload, Barry - you still have another foot! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

timothya Posts: 280 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2014,04:19    At UD, this, from DavidD:     Quote Maybe they should give Watson another Nobel Prize for his coming out of the closet and having the courage to speak up and reveal the evolutionary truth of how Africans are inferior in intelligence to white Europeans? He did what every evolutionist believes at heart but do not have the guts to public post. Wait a second.  Doesn't the fossil and molecular evidence say that we are all "Africans"? What a piece of filth. -------------- "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread." Anatole France

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2014,05:20    Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 26 2014,20:03) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 26 2014,19:46) Apparently Barry posted an OP and then removed it when it became untenable. Talk about controlling the message. See Keith's comment at 49. Barry's oops. The fact it was titled: "Keiths, the gift that keeps giving to ID" adds the the hilarity. Reload, Barry - you still have another foot! And that doesn't include the 4 flat feet on Logically_speaking's platypus.

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2014,17:44    In his current lap around the UD goldfish bowl Box seems to be unaware of the Bully Arrington - Jeffrey Shallit debacle from a couple of months ago. He attempts to resurrect the argument, effectively declaring that Shallit is too intelligent to understand ID. Excerpts:   Quote       Quote R0bb:    WRT Shallit and randomness, you have to understand Shallit’s approach to ID discussions. You have got it backwards. We don’t have to understand Jeffrey Shallit, it’s exactly the other way around. And J.S. fails miserably. and:   Quote So what does Jeffrey Shallit do? He entered the ID-debate but does he understand what it is all about? No, he hasn’t got a clue. So, Jeffrey Shallit runs both strings through a stupid compression algorithm and states that a shakespearean sonnet is “more random” than keyboard pounding, thereby ‘proving’ that Barry is wrong. Talk about missing the point …. While I'm here, happy thanksgiving to all you Merry Cans. -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2014,20:12    Ptaylor     Quote While I'm here, happy thanksgiving to all you Merry Cans. Thank You.

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2014,01:34    Querius appears to have lost track of just who is and who isn't the ID proponent in his conversation with Me_Think:   Quote Me_Think @155 made the unsupported assertion:   Quote    ID falters at design detection stage. Really? Could you give an example? Let’s say you find a piece of obsidian with several conchoidal fractures. How would you determine intelligent design? -Q My emphasis. Just what is it with logic for these guys? UD link (trying out donotlink*) *ETA - went to top of page only for me; it's comment 164. Edited by Ptaylor on Nov. 28 2014,18:37 -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2014,03:54    VJ Torley has a  new post up affirming that ID is not science. The post is mercifully and miraculously short, for him. This is a far better argument for divine intervention than Vincent's. I've been rereading James Gleick's excellent biography of Feynman,  'Genius'. Torley invokes 'Metaphysical truths' in his argument, and I can hear Feynman saying "That's not even decent guessing." -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2014,08:55    Quote (Driver @ Nov. 28 2014,01:54) VJ Torley has a  new post up affirming that ID is not science. The post is mercifully and miraculously short, for him. This is a far better argument for divine intervention than Vincent's. I've been rereading James Gleick's excellent biography of Feynman,  'Genius'. Torley invokes 'Metaphysical truths' in his argument, and I can hear Feynman saying "That's not even decent guessing." I'm halfway through "Strange Beauty" and wishing there were more physics and less Gell-Mann biography. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,15:21    Allegedly naturally formed (i.e. non-designed) human face found in Laoying mountains/China. See here and here. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

timothya Posts: 280 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,23:11    From Barry Arrington's website: Quote Being a Christian gives me a standard of integrity far beyond what the world requires. Do you think he means that he has achieved the standard, or that he aspires to it but falls short? In any case, my tiny patch of the world expects integrity "far beyond" anything he has demonstrated at UD. -------------- "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread." Anatole France

timothya Posts: 280 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,23:19    I might add that I would expect a lawyer to be called to a higher standard of grammar than that which he displayed, up with which we should not put. -------------- "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread." Anatole France

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2014,00:16    Quote (timothya @ Nov. 29 2014,21:11) From Barry Arrington's website:     Quote Being a Christian gives me a standard of integrity far beyond what the world requires. Do you think he means that he has achieved the standard, or that he aspires to it but falls short? In any case, my tiny patch of the world expects integrity "far beyond" anything he has demonstrated at UD. Well, since being a Christian demands the practice of humility (according to the teachings of my youth), I'm sure Barry would respond with the latter. However, I suspect he sees himself demonstrating a level of integrity and compassion far superior to that of the ID proponents with whom he has dealt. -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2014,03:38    Quote (timothya @ Nov. 29 2014,21:11) From Barry Arrington's website:   Quote Being a Christian gives me a standard of integrity far beyond what the world requires. Do you think he means that he has achieved the standard, or that he aspires to it but falls short? In any case, my tiny patch of the world expects integrity "far beyond" anything he has demonstrated at UD. timothya, do you have a link to that statement by arrington? -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2014,06:27    Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 30 2014,03:38) Quote (timothya @ Nov. 29 2014,21:11) From Barry Arrington's website:     Quote Being a Christian gives me a standard of integrity far beyond what the world requires. Do you think he means that he has achieved the standard, or that he aspires to it but falls short? In any case, my tiny patch of the world expects integrity "far beyond" anything he has demonstrated at UD. timothya, do you have a link to that statement by arrington? LMGTFY -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

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