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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2014,22:15   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 19 2014,14:23)
Joey: ""And Wagner’s ideas are not published in peer-review. If his ideas had the evidence he would publish."

Yet he just chastised me for asking for the peer reviewed Dumbski paper where he claimed to have proven that natural systems can't produce CSI.  I would expect more from a man with a 150 IQ.

This exchange about Wagner's work cracked me up

 
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Me_Think November 18, 2014 at 5:33 am

Joe @13: The list of journals were related research was published is here


 
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Joe November 18, 2014 at 6:03 am

Me Think, your bluff is duly noted. I looked at the first ten papers and they do not support anything you have said.


JoeTard read and understood 10 technical papers in 30 minutes.  :O The boy's a tard GENIUS!  :D  :D  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2014,00:02   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 19 2014,12:23)
Joey: ""And Wagner’s ideas are not published in peer-review. If his ideas had the evidence he would publish."

Yet he just chastised me for asking for the peer reviewed Dumbski paper where he claimed to have proven that natural systems can't produce CSI.  I would expect more from a man with a 150 IQ.

joey left out the decimal point in his IQ claim. It's more like 1.50, and I'm being generous.

Regarding publishing in peer reviewed journals, maybe you should remind joey of his own claims/demands:

"And Wagner’s ideas are not published in peer-review. If his ideas had the evidence he would publish."

joey and other IDiots OFTEN refer to "popular books" (Privileged Planet, and books by meyer, dumbski, behe, and other IDiot-creationists) and to what IDiot-creationists say on websites (UD, ENV, etc.) to support their ID 'theory' claims, yet he says:



joey the crackpot also says:

"Attacking people as opposed to substantiating your claims is a sure sign of a crackpot."  (joey posting as ID guy at telicthoughts.com)

"Opinions? Opinions are meaningless if unsupported."  (joey posting as ID guy at telicthoughts.com)

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2014,00:22   

That boy has seen something in a mirror and fallen in love. Jesus that has to be one of the worst cases of projection disease ever. Even worse than Gary. Is this a common ailment amongst creationists?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2014,01:05   

Bully arrington doesn't practice or enforce what he preaches:




ETA: I thought I was in the uncommonly dense thread when I posted this. I'll post it in that thread and if a moderator wants to delete it from this thread that's okay with me.

Edited by The whole truth on Nov. 19 2014,23:23

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2014,01:13   

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 19 2014,22:22)
That boy has seen something in a mirror and fallen in love. Jesus that has to be one of the worst cases of projection disease ever. Even worse than Gary. Is this a common ailment amongst creationists?

I'd say that projection and thinking of themselves as really, really special, as in 'specially created in the image of God', are ubiquitous ailments amongst creationists.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2014,01:52   

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 20 2014,09:13)
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 19 2014,22:22)
That boy has seen something in a mirror and fallen in love. Jesus that has to be one of the worst cases of projection disease ever. Even worse than Gary. Is this a common ailment amongst creationists?

I'd say that projection and thinking of themselves as really, really special, as in 'specially created in the image of God', are ubiquitous ailments amongst creationists.

Ah so. So we can blame the foreskin collectors. I can see benefits in starting a Church. All I need is a tambourine and a TV station, not to mention a gift shop. I grew up on a sheep farm so management of the flock is pretty easy all you need is a good dog.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2014,15:15   

Yoohoo, joooeey. Are you listening, joey? I have some questions for you.

Is the designer of something also the builder/creator of that something? Is it the designer who finds, gathers, modifies, and assembles the parts of the thing (assuming that there are 'parts'), or does someone/something else do that?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2014,16:46   

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Yoohoo, joooeey. Are you listening, joey? I have some questions for you.

Is the designer of something also the builder/creator of that something? Is it the designer who finds, gathers, modifies, and assembles the parts of the thing (assuming that there are 'parts'), or does someone/something else do that?

The devil's in the detail.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2014,17:29   

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 24 2014,13:15)
Yoohoo, joooeey. Are you listening, joey? I have some questions for you.

Is the designer of something also the builder/creator of that something? Is it the designer who finds, gathers, modifies, and assembles the parts of the thing (assuming that there are 'parts'), or does someone/something else do that?

It gets subbed out to the lowest bidder, who uses the cheapest-possible parts and labour.  Which explains many things.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2014,23:27   

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 24 2014,13:15)
Yoohoo, joooeey. Are you listening, joey? I have some questions for you.

Is the designer of something also the builder/creator of that something? Is it the designer who finds, gathers, modifies, and assembles the parts of the thing (assuming that there are 'parts'), or does someone/something else do that?

Hey joey, I'm trying to learn all about intelligent design/creation, the designer/creator, other designers/creators, CSI-dFSCI-FSCO/I, irreducible complexity, mere complexity, complex complexity, front loading, intervention, intent, function, specification, information, and everything else that does or may apply to ID, and since you're an expert at all things ID I figure it's a good idea to ask you lots of questions.

You can start by answering the questions above, and then answer these (I'll have more later):

1. How would you go about calculating/measuring CSI-dFSCI-FSCO/I in Stonehenge?

2. Are probability calculations/estimates used to determine any aspects of ID, such as CSI-dFSCI-FSCO/I, IC, etc.?

3. How would you go about calculating/measuring CSI-dFSCI-FSCO/I, IC, work, and counterflow in a moth, a rock, a solar system, the formation of a planet, the orbital path of Mars, gravity, an atom, a flu virus, a cancer cell, and the differences between the genome of a gorilla and the genome of a human?  

4. Is ID against universal common descent?

5. Will you please demonstrate your model of the intelligent design/creation of a moth, a rock, a pine tree, a garter snake, the big earthquake and tsunami that hit Japan awhile back, a solar system, the formation of a planet, the orbital path of Mars, gravity, an atom, a flu virus, a cancer cell, the differences between the genome of a gorilla and the genome of a human, the origin of life, the Cambrian explosion, the position of the Earth in this galaxy and this universe, gamma rays, planetary magnetic fields, and the expansion of this universe?

6. How would you go about testing what the people of thousands of years ago could do?

7. How would you go about testing to see if any (or particular) humans of thousands of years ago were capable of building Stonehenge?

8. How would you go about testing to see if life and the rest of this universe started out in a flawless state but have been decaying for a long time?

9. How would you go about testing to see which mutations, diseases, and deformities are directed/designed and which are not?

10. How would you go about testing to see how old the Grand Canyon, the Earth, and this universe are, and how they were designed/created?

11. Are biological specification and CSI the same thing?

12. Will you please demonstrate your model of baraminology, and please include your determination of which biological entities belong in which of your chosen baramins in regard to all of the biological entities that have ever existed on Earth?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,16:18   

Are you waiting for Godot?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,16:48   

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Are you waiting for Godot?

<begin Joe> Your evo-mat philosophy can't explain why Godot never shows up, assface </end Joe>

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,18:41   

Quote (Timothy McDougald @ Nov. 26 2014,00:48)
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 25 2014,16:18)
Are you waiting for Godot?

<begin Joe> Your evo-mat philosophy can't explain why Godot never shows up, assface </end Joe>

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,20:15   

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 25 2014,18:41)
Quote (Timothy McDougald @ Nov. 26 2014,00:48)
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 25 2014,16:18)
Are you waiting for Godot?

<begin Joe> Your evo-mat philosophy can't explain why Godot never shows up, assface </end Joe>

POTW

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,21:11   

Quote (Quack @ Nov. 25 2014,14:18)
Are you waiting for Godot?

It would appear so, but since joey is such a courageous, knowledgeable, civil gentleman I'm sure that he will show up any minute now and will respond to my requests with detailed, scientific evidence and methodology based, brilliantly informative answers, models, and demonstrations.


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Actually, joey is a brain-dead, sniveling coward who constantly accuses "evos" of being cowards (and lots of other erroneous things) in his desperate and futile attempts to overcome his massive insecurities, stupidity, and worthlessness. If he does show up he will just spew his usual one liners and then run away like he always does.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2014,21:11   

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 25 2014,16:41)
Quote (Timothy McDougald @ Nov. 26 2014,00:48)
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 25 2014,16:18)
Are you waiting for Godot?

<begin Joe> Your evo-mat philosophy can't explain why Godot never shows up, assface </end Joe>

POTW

+1

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,22:13   

(joey says): "Science is NOT about proof."


(joey): Again science is NOT about proof.



(not joey): "But you haven't examined all the natural processes enough."

(joey): "Prove it."



(joey): "Intelligent Design has expanded beyond biology and is evidenced in, for example, cosmology, physics and chemistry. Irreducible complexity has proven to be well beyond the reach of materialistic processes."



(joey): "In “No Free Lunch” Dembski has a proof that necessity and chance cannot produce CSI"




(joey): "Materialism is what is contrasted with ID so materialism is the topic."


(joey): "Materialism in NOT contrasted with ID."




(joey): "You don't have a model nor do you have any evidence for your position. And it doesn't matter what people say you scientifically illiterate asswipe- it matters what they can demonstrate."




(joey): "ID has a methodology for determining design. Yours doesn't have any methodology. We have testable hypotheses and you don't. We have a testable model and you don't." (ROFLMAO!)




(joey): "You are an asshole, Jerad. I am not belligerent to anyone- I am calling you out because you are an obvious liar- apparently all evolutionists are liars, it is all they have. People can disagree with me and I am OK with it. But asshole cowardly liars like you are another story."




(joey): "As for fossils- two things-
1) Fossils cannot tell us anything about a mechanism
2) ID is not anti-common descent

As for absurd claims- saying that all of life's diversity owes its collective common ancestry to some unknown LUCA (which just happened to have the ability to asexually reproduce) via some blind watchmaker-type process is the most absurd and un-scientific claim there is.

You do realize there isn't ANY data that demonstartes that a population of single-celled organisms can "evolve" into anything but a population of single-celled organisms. Which means "common descent" can't even get started."



(joey): "And nothing points to universal common descent- the premise can't even be tested."



(joey): "You do realize that ID is OK with universal common descent."




(not joey): "Okay, what are the bones that look like leg bones under whales' skins then?"

(joey): "They only look like legs bones to ignorant assholes."




(joey): "As investigators know, saying a designer did it tells us quite a bit." (Like what, joey?)




(joey): "Just repeating it doesn't make it so, assface. You actually have to present something for your words to count."




(not joey): I'm glad you're not a detective.

(joey): "I used to be and I was very successful. Being able to repair things requires being a forensic scientist and a detective."




(not joey): "Show me an example of a peer-reviewed paper where Dr Dembski's design detection procedure is used."

(joey): "Thurston et al."




(joey): "ID is about explaining the design and the fossil record wasn't designed. IOW you are an imbecile."

(not joey): "Just a minute here . . . the creatures were designed and that casts no light on the fossil record?"

(joey): "The fossil record is allegedly very incomplete. The design is found in living organisms. Although the Cambrian is supposed to be evidence for the sudden infusion of genetic information."




(not joey): "Dr Lenski's experiment continues."

(joey): "Continues to support baraminology."




(joey); "Reporting other people's speculations? That means you are a coward, Jerad."




(joey): "It is impossible to test what people of thousands of years ago could do."  




(joey): "And we know the abilities by what they left behind for us to study, dipshit."




(joey): "ID doesn't have a theistic core and it isn't angry with materialism."



(joey): "My world deals with reality. Your world is fantasy"




ETA: I accidentally posted this before I was ready and have removed one quote of joey's BS.

ETA: Added some missing quote marks.

Edited by The whole truth on Nov. 26 2014,20:30

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2014,22:45   

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 25 2014,18:41)
Quote (Timothy McDougald @ Nov. 26 2014,00:48)
Quote (Quack @ Nov. 25 2014,16:18)
Are you waiting for Godot?

<begin Joe> Your evo-mat philosophy can't explain why Godot never shows up, assface </end Joe>

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,12:00   

Joe and I are having fun discussing absorption and emission of radiation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,13:05   

Biggest lol is him calling himself 'Joe six pack'. Joe six chins more like.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,16:24   

From Joe G's declaration of himself I see he has much in common with Richard Feynman, but he isn't so good on bongo drums.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,16:36   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 29 2014,11:05)
Biggest lol is him calling himself 'Joe six pack'. Joe six chins more like.

Joe Keg.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,19:14   

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Joe and I are having fun discussing absorption and emission of radiation.

A climate change denialist as well as an opponent of evolutionary theory? That almost never happens.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,20:27   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Nov. 29 2014,19:14)
Quote (olegt @ Nov. 29 2014,18:00)
Joe and I are having fun discussing absorption and emission of radiation.

A climate change denialist as well as an opponent of evolutionary theory? That almost never happens.

Joe has used that "we're already greenhouse gas, therefore what we do now doesn't matter" before.

Like the best lies, it has some truth in it. If it weren't for the greenhouse effect, Earth would be an iceball.

However, what Joe fails to grasp is that we are changing the proportion of greenhouse gases, resulting a much faster global temp rise than has ever been found in the history of the planet. What is a normal, if uncomfortable change for populations over 10,000 years, is devastating over 100 years.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2014,20:47   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 29 2014,20:27)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Nov. 29 2014,19:14)
Quote (olegt @ Nov. 29 2014,18:00)
Joe and I are having fun discussing absorption and emission of radiation.

A climate change denialist as well as an opponent of evolutionary theory? That almost never happens.

Joe has used that "we're already greenhouse gas, therefore what we do now doesn't matter" before.

Like the best lies, it has some truth in it. If it weren't for the greenhouse effect, Earth would be an iceball.

However, what Joe fails to grasp is that we are changing the proportion of greenhouse gases, resulting a much faster global temp rise than has ever been found in the history of the planet. What is a normal, if uncomfortable change for populations over 10,000 years, is devastating over 100 years.

Even worse, Joe thinks (along with the clueless guy writing in American Stinker) that O2 and N2 act like greenhouse gases. They don't seem to understand that molecular oxygen and nitrogen are transparent in the far infrared and thus they can't trap thermal radiation of the earth's surface.

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I thought their configuration allowed them to due both, ie absorb and emit infrared. Whereas the other atmospheric gases can just emit infrared after being thermically energized by conduction and/ or convection.

What do heated gas molecules emit if not infrared? Does thermal imaging only work in the presence of so-called greenhouse gases?

Well oleg, this sounds like the making off a great experiment. Heat a chamber filled with 79% nitrogen and 21% oxygen and see if you get emissions of infrared.

HEAT the hydrogen, don't burn it, and see if the heated hydrogen emits infrared.

My bet is if you can heat it whatever you heated will emit infrared. What do you think, oleg?


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2014,02:08   

Joes Experiment to heat up air and look at the FIR has been done millions of times. Tell Joe to buy a thermal imaging camera (8-14  microns) and to take a picture of his house. Maybe seeing the house (and not the air) will make him think. Weil, maybe not.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2014,07:24   

Joe the Gas Master:    
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HEAT the hydrogen, don't burn it, and see if the heated hydrogen emits infrared.

Yeah, DONT BURN THE HYDROGEN because it will burn you right back!

Wikipedia page on Hydrogen safety:    
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Hydrogen poses unique challenges due to its ease of leaking, low-energy ignition, wide range of combustible fuel-air mixtures, . . .
 
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"Flames in and around a collection of pipes or structures can create turbulence that causes a deflagration to evolve into a detonation, even in the absence of gross confinement."

So, kids, remember to practice hydrogen safety. "HEAT the hydrogen, don't burn it"

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2014,09:24   

Quote (paragwinn @ Nov. 30 2014,07:24)
Joe the Gas Master:    
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HEAT the hydrogen, don't burn it, and see if the heated hydrogen emits infrared.

Yeah, DONT BURN THE HYDROGEN because it will burn you right back!

Wikipedia page on Hydrogen safety:    
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Hydrogen poses unique challenges due to its ease of leaking, low-energy ignition, wide range of combustible fuel-air mixtures, . . .
   
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"Flames in and around a collection of pipes or structures can create turbulence that causes a deflagration to evolve into a detonation, even in the absence of gross confinement."

So, kids, remember to practice hydrogen safety. "HEAT the hydrogen, don't burn it"

If the recipe calls for sauteed hydrogen, I'll know who to talk to.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2014,11:42   

Maybe condensed hydrogen instead?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2014,16:56   

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Maybe condensed hydrogen instead?

Just for funsies, mention metallic hydrogen and see if Joe's head asplodes.

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