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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,12:44   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 18 2007,12:28)
 
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 18 2007,11:10)
"Sometimes a flagellum is just a flagellum".


Yeah... but mine's bigger.  ds

Hey, pal, I got your flagellum right here.  :angry:

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,12:59   

Re "Hey, pal, I got your flagellum right here. "

Put that thing away when out in public! ;)

:p

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,13:11   

Quote (Henry J @ June 18 2007,12:59)
Re "Hey, pal, I got your flagellum right here. "

Put that thing away when out in public! ;)

:p

Please!  No need to panic....

If it's the flagellum of an ID Theorist, it can only be viewed through rose-colored glasses or the follwoing:



HTH :)

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,13:30   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 18 2007,12:28)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 18 2007,11:10)
"Sometimes a flagellum is just a flagellum".


Yeah... but mine's bigger.  ds

now, now.

It's not the size, it's the motion.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,13:33   

Quote (Ichthyic @ June 18 2007,20:30)
Quote (J-Dog @ June 18 2007,12:28)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 18 2007,11:10)
"Sometimes a flagellum is just a flagellum".


Yeah... but mine's bigger.  ds

now, now.

It's not the size, it's the motion.

That's not what your wife/girlfriend/mother/sheep of choice/goat/creationist* told me.

Louis

*Delete as applicable (oh come on some has to do the obvious joke now)

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,13:46   

Hmmm. Richard must be out of town.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,13:50   

Y'know, if WAD is now linking to "ID, the smutty version", I wonder if he'll let JanieBelle back into The Big Tent.

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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,14:15   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 18 2007,13:46)
Hmmm. Richard must be out of town.

KNOW, I AM HEAR. IT ALWAYS AMUSES ME TO SEA YOU CHANCE-WORHIPING HOMO'S FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THE FRACTERIAL BLAGELLA. FROM ITS LITTLE PISTONS, ENGINE, GAS GAUGE, OWNERS MNANUAL AND GEAR STICK ANY ENGINEER CAN SEE IT IS DESIGNED.

PLUS, AS ITS ONE OF THE EARLISET FORMS OF LIFE AND MUTATIONS ONLY DESTROY INFORMATION, IT HAS WAY MORE CSI THAN YOU LOT, BECAUSE OF FRONTLOADING.

HOMOS.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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C.J.O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,14:16   

Pssst. Hey, buddy...

What you're lookin' for's not in the big tent, see.
That little tent, there, behind the big tent. Two bits a gander.

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,14:26   

Quote (Louis @ June 18 2007,13:33)
 
Quote (Ichthyic @ June 18 2007,20:30)
 
Quote (J-Dog @ June 18 2007,12:28)
   
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 18 2007,11:10)
"Sometimes a flagellum is just a flagellum".


Yeah... but mine's bigger.  ds

now, now.

It's not the size, it's the motion.

That's not what your wife/girlfriend/mother/sheep of choice/goat/creationist* told me.

Louis

*Delete as applicable (oh come on some has to do the obvious joke now)

hmm, it actually may be time to completely discard the old adage i refered to...

http://beheco.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/12/6/726

 
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The site of fertilization may also be correlated with sperm length, as species that fertilize in the female's buccal cavity had significantly shorter sperm than those that fertilized eggs on the substrate. Assuming that relatively large testes and polygamous mating are indicative of more intense sperm competition,  these results indicate that sperm length is related to the intensity of sperm competition in this clade of cichlids, as has been found previously in insects, birds, and mammals.


and, just before that:

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sperm length was significantly related to relative testis size


translation:

bigger really is better.

now I understand all those emails ads I keep getting.

seriously, though, that paper is a good read on the general issue of sperm competition relating to individual reproductive success in different mating systems.

and it's free.

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,15:17   

Sal notes:
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It should be noted Barrow and Davies won an almost combined 3 million dollars in the form of Templeton Prizes for their (perhaps unwitting) ID-sympathetic works. Some of the best ID literature is in places you’d least expect!
Uncommon Descent will from time to time point out other books like Tipler’s Physics of Christianity and now this (unwitting) ID-sympathetic book by renowned scientist Owen Gingerich: God’s Universe


unwitting. How apt for ID in general and doubly so for Sal. Sal must get to use that word alot. Or hear it alot. Or both.

So many ID books, so little time!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,15:47   

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Some of the best ID literature is in places you’d least expect!


"...but with dilligent use of projection, and complete denial of anything contrary, we can easily locate ID literature throughout the world of peer-reviewed scientific journals!"

these people SHOULD be scared of themselves.

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"And the sea will grant each man new hope..."

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,15:48   

Quote (Ichthyic @ June 18 2007,15:47)
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Some of the best ID literature is in places you’d least expect!


"...but with dilligent use of projection, and complete denial of anything contrary, we can easily locate ID literature throughout the world of peer-reviewed scientific journals!"

these people SHOULD be scared of themselves.

We need large, well funded institutions to care for them....

Oh wait, that'd be Churches.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2007,15:50   

you have touched on a tragedy of current america:

you're in fact, absolutely right.

churches HAVE attempted to replace what really should be the role of mental health care professionals, and have been encouraged and even subsidized to do so by our own government.

it truly is a pathetic state of affairs.

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,00:23   

Lenny, care to comment:
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http://www.uncommondescent.com/culture/so-many-id-books-so-little-time-id-sympathetic-book-by-gingerich-2006/
At Goshen I was a chemistry major, and I knew that chemistry provided many opportunities for service to humankind. Meanwhile the stars and Harvard beckoned, but of what practical use could astronomy be? Here my mathematics professor came to the rescue. “If you feel a calling to pursue astronomy,” he counseled, “you should go for it.
We can’t let the atheists take over any field.”


I just feel there's something in that quote which might just, just mind you, have some bearing on the question of the relationship between ID and creationism.

It's only a hunch, though.

Bob

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,00:25   

yeah, I noticed Lenny was around again.

c'mon, Lenny, let bygones be bygones and just jump right on in again.

everyone misses you.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,00:57   

Quote (Ichthyic @ June 18 2007,23:25)
yeah, I noticed Lenny was around again.

c'mon, Lenny, let bygones be bygones and just jump right on in again.

everyone misses you.

Yeah.  

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,01:52   

Quote (Kristine @ June 18 2007,19:57)
 
Quote (Ichthyic @ June 18 2007,23:25)
yeah, I noticed Lenny was around again.

c'mon, Lenny, let bygones be bygones and just jump right on in again.

everyone misses you.

Yeah.

I missed this. Has Lenny left definitively? That would be a shame. Mind you, as ID (and UD as its main proponent) are utterly and irrevocably finished as a marketable strategy, flogging a dead horse can pall after a while, hence the occasional random flagellation.

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,02:14   

I notice we didn't see a post crowing about how May was a record month for Uncommon Descent.

I'm sure DaveTard just forgot.

Couldn't be that their numbers are down, or anything.

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,07:12   

Quote (Ichthyic @ June 19 2007,00:25)
yeah, I noticed Lenny was around again.

c'mon, Lenny, let bygones be bygones and just jump right on in again.

everyone misses you.

I, uh, wasn't gone by choice.

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,07:16   

Quote (Alan Fox @ June 19 2007,01:52)
Has Lenny left definitively?

No, the Politeness Police locked Lenny up for a week because FTK was whining about the Big Bad Meanie who was Out To Get Her.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,08:10   

But you are mean, you are out to get her and everyone loves it and you for it!

Wooooot!

Louis

P.S. I am approaching  the opinion she deserves anything she gets too. But it's Tuesday and I'm not yet feeling charitable. Maybe by Thursday I will!

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,09:10   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ June 19 2007,06:16)
     
Quote (Alan Fox @ June 19 2007,01:52)
Has Lenny left definitively?

No, the Politeness Police locked Lenny up for a week because FTK was whining about the Big Bad Meanie who was Out To Get Her.

Lucky gal. :) Of course I've had my moments with Dave.

Speaking of which - here's a pullout not on UD:
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NASA is an agency that knows a thing or two about climate change. As Griffin added: "We study global climate change, that is in our authorisation, we think we do it rather well.

"I'm proud of that, but NASA is not an agency chartered to, quote, battle climate change."

Such a clear statement that science accomplishment should carry primacy over policy advice is both welcome and overdue.

Nonetheless, there is something worrying about one of Griffin's other statements, which said that "I have no doubt . . . that a trend of global warming exists".

Griffin seems to be referring to human-caused global warming, but irrespective of that his opinion is unsupported by the evidence.


So why are these global-warming skeptics contradicting each other? Oh, uh, there's no consensus in science. I'm learning.

Coinkydinkily, Carter is a member of the right-wing think tank the Institute of Public Affairs and a founding member of its Australian Environment Foundation, a front group. All of which of course is just dumb luck. When it comes to global climate change, certain people are chance worshippers. ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,10:45   

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How many honorary doctorates does Judge Jones have now?
WAD

...Ron Numbers informs me that over 100 professional societies have weighed in officially against ID. (Again, I’d like to see this confirmed.) Don’t expect people with a finger in the wind to help ID....

But if they've got a thumb...

No, nevermind.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,11:43   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 19 2007,10:45)
 
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How many honorary doctorates does Judge Jones have now?
WAD

...Ron Numbers informs me that over 100 professional societies have weighed in officially against ID. (Again, I’d like to see this confirmed.) Don’t expect people with a finger in the wind to help ID....

But if they've got a thumb...

No, nevermind.

Further WmAD:
 
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George Bush may make supporting noises for ID when confronted on the matter by the press, but when push comes to shove he defers to his science adviser John Marburger, who takes his marching orders from the NCSE.

Oh noes!!!1!!  The Darwinist Conspiracy ™ has it's tentacles into the White House and the Prez-nit!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,12:26   

Quote (carlsonjok @ June 19 2007,10:43)
     
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 19 2007,10:45)
 
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How many honorary doctorates does Judge Jones have now?
WAD

...Ron Numbers [What does Ron Deuteronomy say?] ;) informs me that over 100 professional societies have weighed in officially against ID. (Again, I’d like to see this confirmed.) [As would I!] Don’t expect people with a finger in the wind to help ID....

But if they've got a thumb...

No, nevermind.

Further WmAD:
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George Bush may make supporting noises for ID when confronted on the matter by the press, but when push comes to shove he defers to his science adviser John Marburger, who takes his marching orders from the NCSE.

Oh noes!!!1!!  The Darwinist Conspiracy ™ has it's tentacles into the White House and the Prez-nit!!!

WHIIIIINNNNE! :O Bitter, bitter, bitter! We're going to have to start calling wMAD the "church lady."  
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ID is the intellectual elite’s equivalent of leprosy.

And in what year did leprosy finally become accepted by the social elite, like the steam engine and the Big Bang? ;) Bad (meaning good) analogy there, Bill!
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In the present circumstances, we are better off being opposed by liberals and conservatives alike.
Yeah, that sounds like a plan. Goood idear.

Grouse on and on about Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Jones (who is sporting a hawt tan there - guess he owns a boat). Isolate yourselves further. Become more paranoid than ever. Cut yourself off from any meaningful discussion. Others are happy to step into the gap.

And don't forget to wave at life as it passes you by, Bill Dembski & the gang.

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C.J.O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,12:47   

bFast curses the darkness:
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We clearly do not understand information, that is true. We can recognize some of it, but doing a good job of defining it, or establishing its characteristics is proving most difficult. As living cells are information-driven engines, we must come to a clear understanding of the characteristics of information.

I wonder why it is that the Fig Newton of Infomazing Apolobatics hasn't been more effective in educating the flock?

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,12:49   

Quote (C.J.O'Brien @ June 19 2007,12:47)
bFast curses the darkness:
 
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We clearly do not understand information, that is true. We can recognize some of it, but doing a good job of defining it, or establishing its characteristics is proving most difficult. As living cells are information-driven engines, we must come to a clear understanding of the characteristics of information.

I wonder why it is that the Fig Newton of Infomazing Apolobatics hasn't been more effective in educating the flock?

I'm glad you've noticed that thread, I was going to comment on it but just could not find the words....

EDIT: An example:
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the blind watchmaker pundits do claim that non-intelligent matter is capable of generating intelligence on this planet. Both sides have a, probably unknowable, something in back of their chains of thought. I guess “who designed the designer” is an equally valid question for both.

This should have been obvious to me, but my philosophical bias probably got in the way.



blind watchmaker pundits? What, does he mean mainstream scientists?

ffs.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,13:14   

But WAD isn't a pathetic, envious wanker.
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How many honorary doctorates does Judge Jones have now?
WAD

...


Is he?

Edited by Dr.GH on June 19 2007,13:16

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2007,13:19   

ID informatics uncompressible information expert Giltard makes an observation:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-125339


 
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2

GilDodgen

06/19/2007

12:21 pm
And just think, Jones’ honorary-degree-worthy decision only required three keystrokes:

Ctrl-A (select all)
Ctrl-C (copy)
Ctrl-V (paste)


Except that's SIX Keystrokes you innumerate twunt.

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/K/keystroke.html

Good luck finding God in flagella ("Bac. Flag." - see they do so much research they need to abbreviate it to speed things up), You odious, sycophantic tard.


Edit: I did dun a editation for to make reading betterer

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