stevestory
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on another thread the following was posted.
Quote | I think that Sewell's question is ill formed. Though I know little about evolution, I can easily imagine that it can produce systems that will not function if any part is removed. Nevertheless, I think what Sewell was really asking, or what I'd like to think he was asking, is this: is there any scientific observation at all, apart from the absurd (The LHC discovers "Made by God" in 300 languages etched on the side of the Higgs boson) that would make an anti-design person suddenly take the design argument seriously. I think it is an interesting question, somewhat related to the falsifiability of evolution, and I think the answer is probably, for the majority, no.
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First of all, I've read the bible. Most of it. And the Bhagavad Gita. Plenty of absurd stories in those. Corpses walking around, virgins getting knocked up, dragons and swords and frog storms and all kids of other science fiction. So there's no reason to rule out the absurd as evidence.
But to this question of can us crazy atheists ever see design.
Take a look at the greatest car ever made, the Porsche 959:
In even the most fevered Calvinist's imagination, do you think we wouldn't believe in the Porsche Design Studio?
Do they think we atheists believe there're no conscious designers at Breitling?
Why, we even believe someone designed this thing,
despite the designer being a good deal more mysterious than the CAD junkies in Dearborn.
Juries even routinely convict poisoners and hackers who cover up evidence of their design, in other words, we can often conclude design despite the designer deliberately hiding.
So we don't have any problem believing in designers who exist.
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