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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,08:04   

Damn. I posted above without even realizing I was named in a new thread title.

Suffice to say that if I were mphillips I would not have to guess about whether I had been banned.

Suffice to say that UD has the ability, as do all forums, to check IP addresses and see if I am posting under two or more names.

Suffice to say that regardless of Mr Focus' status as a moderator, there's a long history of people disappearing after his warnings. If nothing else he is a harbinger.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,08:08   

Page turning bump?

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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,08:40   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 22 2012,08:04)
Damn. I posted above without even realizing I was named in a new thread title.

Suffice to say that if I were mphillips I would not have to guess about whether I had been banned.

Suffice to say that UD has the ability, as do all forums, to check IP addresses and see if I am posting under two or more names.

Suffice to say that regardless of Mr Focus' status as a moderator, there's a long history of people disappearing after his warnings. If nothing else he is a harbinger.

One does wonder what his repeated threats of 'stronger measures' mean, if not some kind of moderation? Obviously, he doesn't mean Mr Leathers, even if we say that for the yuks.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,09:46   

Meh.

Isn't being banned from UD a bit like being asked to leave the high school Dungeons and Dragons Club?

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,10:19   

Here's the KF post that led me to speculate that mphillips was doomed. For some odd reason this is post 47, and in defending himself, KF draws our attention to post 57 and beyond. I can't imagine why.

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kairosfocus August 19, 2012 at 8:11 am
MP:

Are you even aware of how insistently you are caricaturing my views and those of others, or of how irritating that becomes, when such is laced with implicit personal attacks?

Are you so willful in ignorance that you cannot yield to repeated correction?

Or, are you willfully and knowingly as apropaganda act distorting the views and smearing the character of those you disagree with, for purposes that obviously are otherwise indefensible?

Lets ask one basic question: do you understand what inference to best, empirically grounded explanation in light of tested reliable signs is about?

If you dont know what it is, and do not care enough for fairness to those with whom you differ, to get such things straight, that is bad enough. (I invite you to again look here, taking particular note of the deer track photo, and taking time to think about what you see there.)

I need not elaborate on what you would be doing if you know better but insist on distorting those who hold views you object to.

Until that is resolved, it is pointless trying to discus merits.

But, you need to know that you are setting yourself up to be a poster child of how some objectors to design theory caricature what they object to.

I ask you to correct yourself, before I have to take stronger measures in correction.

KF


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-430489

But it is worth the trouble to have positive proof that the ID detection filter makes false positives in the identification of design. Good for KF for demonstrating the utter failure of his methodology.

This also speaks to Barry's thesis that one can detect the author of even a simple sentence. This is obviously why Barry is a bill collector and not a trial lawyer.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,10:19   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 22 2012,00:41)
Bonus:

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If it had not been for C.S. Lewis, a Christian friend, the ID movement, and You Know Who, I might have condemned my children to a lifetime of darkness, as promoted by people like Richard Dawkins.


Here's my guesses for "You Know Who":

1) Liberace
2) Unnamed designer
3) Mr. Leathers
4) The guy that makes ladies blouses in men's sizes

HALP!


Gil's weeding was mentioned in the local press.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,11:13   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Aug. 22 2012,06:40)
One does wonder what his repeated threats of 'stronger measures' mean, if not some kind of moderation? Obviously, he doesn't mean Mr Leathers, even if we say that for the yuks.

He means this:
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PS: Sal, I appreciate your point, however I must note that the same Dr Liddle has been associated with enabling behaviour for some very vile hate sites that have indulged outing, target-painting, slander and a lot more; for years. I have called on her to clean up what is going on at her own site, where there is slander. (And FYI, in British law jurisdictions, responsibilities under tort are a lot stricter than in the US, where some appallingly bad court decisions have eaten the heart out of protection against defamation, hence much of that average behaviour on the Internet. If she does not clean up her act, she is inviting serious actions. That, FYI Dr Liddle et al, is a caution about a vulnerability you are cultivating, not a threat.)

Please do this, Gord. Please, please, please.

My late father-in-law was a law professor. In his opinion, three verdicts should be available in a civil suit:
1. Finding for the plaintiff.
2. Finding for the defendant.
3. Get the fuck out of my court.

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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,11:46   

Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 22 2012,11:13)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Aug. 22 2012,06:40)
One does wonder what his repeated threats of 'stronger measures' mean, if not some kind of moderation? Obviously, he doesn't mean Mr Leathers, even if we say that for the yuks.

He means this:
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PS: Sal, I appreciate your point, however I must note that the same Dr Liddle has been associated with enabling behaviour for some very vile hate sites that have indulged outing, target-painting, slander and a lot more; for years. I have called on her to clean up what is going on at her own site, where there is slander. (And FYI, in British law jurisdictions, responsibilities under tort are a lot stricter than in the US, where some appallingly bad court decisions have eaten the heart out of protection against defamation, hence much of that average behaviour on the Internet. If she does not clean up her act, she is inviting serious actions. That, FYI Dr Liddle et al, is a caution about a vulnerability you are cultivating, not a threat.)

Please do this, Gord. Please, please, please.

My late father-in-law was a law professor. In his opinion, three verdicts should be available in a civil suit:
1. Finding for the plaintiff.
2. Finding for the defendant.
3. Get the fuck out of my court.

Slander at TSZ? Why, that enabling behaviour is nicely documented in Guano, over half of it straight from the horse's ass mouth of UD-poltroon Joe G!

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,12:24   

Place your bets-Will Sal be banned or silently moderated?

This week he's
-Rubbed KF the wrong way on Liddle-who Sal openly praises, and KF says needs 'correction' or litigation
-Questioned moderation policy, in threatening to set up his own blog, and saying at TSZ there is is open discussion and "there are specialists in relevant fields capable of correcting some of my math and physics"
-Kicked the hornet's nest on YEC

As disagreeable as he is, he has half a brain. This makes him persona non grata at UD.

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,13:50   

Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 22 2012,12:13)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Aug. 22 2012,06:40)
One does wonder what his repeated threats of 'stronger measures' mean, if not some kind of moderation? Obviously, he doesn't mean Mr Leathers, even if we say that for the yuks.

He means this:
 
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PS: Sal, I appreciate your point, however I must note that the same Dr Liddle has been associated with enabling behaviour for some very vile hate sites that have indulged outing, target-painting, slander and a lot more; for years. I have called on her to clean up what is going on at her own site, where there is slander. (And FYI, in British law jurisdictions, responsibilities under tort are a lot stricter than in the US, where some appallingly bad court decisions have eaten the heart out of protection against defamation, hence much of that average behaviour on the Internet. If she does not clean up her act, she is inviting serious actions. That, FYI Dr Liddle et al, is a caution about a vulnerability you are cultivating, not a threat.)

Please do this, Gord. Please, please, please.

My late father-in-law was a law professor. In his opinion, three verdicts should be available in a civil suit:
1. Finding for the plaintiff.
2. Finding for the defendant.
3. Get the fuck out of my court.

I find it interesting that kairosfocus mentions "outing" as an "enabling behavior for some very vile hate sites" since the only place I've ever had a nym outed was on UD (my fault for getting sloppy with my security practices, but it was vjtorley who noticed it on another site and broadcast it on UD).

Naturally, kairosfocus immediately rose to my defense and condemned vjtorley's behavior.  In some parallel universe.

If only hypocrisy were physically painful....

  
damitall



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,14:12   

If Hypocrite Mullings is thinking of resorting to British law in his unreasoning hatred of Dr Liddle, he should consider carefully what British law might have to say about hate speech directed at gays.

I wouldn't mind betting that internet access on Montserrat is heavily subsidised by the UK government, who might be persuaded to take a dim view of its being used for such stuff.

  
Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,14:27   

Someone has a hard-on for Dawkins recently judging by the number of new threads targeting him on the UD site.

How long before Sal chips in to claim Dawkins beats puppy's just like his god Darwin?

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I love it that KF just posted a 4,000 word OP about how he was 'slandered' on another blog.

Hey Mr. Fucking Bydandy, how about you grow a pair like your supposed ancestors, sign up over there and state your case rationally in a post of 100 words or less.

Oh, right, I remember why now ...

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Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,14:27   

KF doesn't get the "so long as you dont link to porn" on TSZ reference to Joe's 'tunie' link, and has this to say:

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Of course, when the hate site initiative was set up, part of the problem the nest of extremist darwinists had was suspicious associations that tied in with porn, just as Rom 1 would warn


Anyone know what he is talking about? "hate site initiative"? "suspicious associations tied in with porn"?

Amazing that every time he brings up libel, he slanders someone else, in this case calling Liddle a pornographer, a hate site founder, and all that comes with Romans 1:

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For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness.....

  
Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,14:43   

Quote (REC @ Aug. 22 2012,14:27)

Anyone know what he is talking about? "hate site initiative"? "suspicious associations tied in with porn"?


He is talking about the fact that our esteemed Lou once posted a link to photo's he had taken professionally that were hosted on his own website. At least one of the pictures showed - gasp - a woman's naughty bits (above the waist only, I might add, but still devil's dumplings to be sure!)

Since then, he has taken several opportunities to state that this site associates with others offering pornography, or something like that. Sounds libelous to me, anyway.

Anyone got a link to that great passage where KF talks at length about having to force himself to watch some hot girl on girl action?

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Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.
Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,15:09   

Would someone care to point out to sanctimonious prick KF that Joe (who has his 6!) has posted pictures of ladies genitalia here, on TSZ and his own blog. And ask him why he and Joe are 6-watching buds.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,15:33   

Quote (REC @ Aug. 22 2012,14:27)
KF doesn't get the "so long as you dont link to porn" on TSZ reference to Joe's 'tunie' link, and has this to say:

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Of course, when the hate site initiative was set up, part of the problem the nest of extremist darwinists had was suspicious associations that tied in with porn, just as Rom 1 would warn


Anyone know what he is talking about? "hate site initiative"? "suspicious associations tied in with porn"?

Amazing that every time he brings up libel, he slanders someone else, in this case calling Liddle a pornographer, a hate site founder, and all that comes with Romans 1:

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For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness.....

He's keen to control the conversation and silence any (good) critiques. He wont engage unaware neutral but will be Offended! and clutch his pearls

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,15:46   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 22 2012,15:09)
Would someone care to point out to sanctimonious prick KF that Joe (who has his 6!) has posted pictures of ladies genitalia here, on TSZ and his own blog. And ask him why he and Joe are 6-watching buds.

 
Quote (REC @ Aug. 22 2012,14:27)
KF doesn't get the "so long as you dont link to porn" on TSZ reference to Joe's 'tunie' link, and has this to say:

<snip>

I just can't get my head around the KF/Joe bond. At the top of that same thread here is KF ...
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I do so now, as I have just learned how I have been slandered at The Skeptical Zone by Petrushka, as one who would censor for mere disagreement. (Joe, thanks for watching my 6.)

In any other universe KF wouldn't be seen in the same galaxy as Joe, the reality-denying, filthy-mouthed dullard with his kindergarten-level education and similar level of emotional maturity.

I mean, here is a guy who actually did post pornographic images here and on Lizzie's blog, yet apparently that's all okay behaviour in the big ID tent. Onward christian (or muslim) soldiers ...

Joe's own blog is a hate-filled, content-free excretion with some derivative of the word 'fuck' appearing at least once in a large percentage of Joe's posts. In any other context KF would expend thousands of words excoriating such a blog. Here ... <chirp> as KF likes to say.

I am 100% sure KF knows what Joe is but chooses to ignore it to prop up his more 'noble' cause. The ability to suppress cognitive dissonance must be strong in this one.

Maybe KF lives vicariously through Joe, the guy who says publicly what the puritanical KF can never be seen to state.

Or maybe KF just thinks of Joe as cannon fodder.

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Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
damitall



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,16:06   

Joe is kept around because he licks KF's arse and runs to him to tell him all about things he can manufacture indignation about.

A more deeply unpleasant pair is hard to imagine, even among so vile a crew as infest UD

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,17:29   

Quote (Freddie @ Aug. 22 2012,12:43)
Quote (REC @ Aug. 22 2012,14:27)

Anyone know what he is talking about? "hate site initiative"? "suspicious associations tied in with porn"?


He is talking about the fact that our esteemed Lou once posted a link to photo's he had taken professionally that were hosted on his own website. At least one of the pictures showed - gasp - a woman's naughty bits (above the waist only, I might add, but still devil's dumplings to be sure!)

Since then, he has taken several opportunities to state that this site associates with others offering pornography, or something like that. Sounds libelous to me, anyway.

Anyone got a link to that great passage where KF talks at length about having to force himself to watch some hot girl on girl action?

Here's one example:

"My wife drew my attention to it, and late one evening I took time to watch; only, to see an informal lewdness contest by a circle of women, "won" by one who shocked her companions by exposing then pulling down her underwear and publicly sexually manipulating her now quite plainly visible private parts in front of the now tightly focussed, pruriently watching cameras..."

From the last letter here.

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,18:02   

I can think of few places where this statement would be deemed necessary:
 
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Barry Arrington
August 22, 2012 at 8:07 am

 
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mphillips has not been banned.


UD link

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,18:27   

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kairosfocus August 22, 2012 at 12:45 pm
F/N: I decides to follow up, just in case. Even when caught red handed in deceit, publicly corrected and given authoritative statement that MP is not banned, Petrushka continues the willful deceit. Let me clip, as yet further record on why Petrushka has become poster child no 1 on what sort of behaviour we are dealing with:
 
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I cant tell for sure but is KF owning up to or denying banning mphillips? [--> A willfully false statement, as even the headline will show, Much less BA's direct declaration.] In case he finds time to read more

Come on over, KF and, so long as you dont link to porn [--> A character-assassinating smear, in fact I am noted for OPPOSING porn; anyone so foolish as to imagine it is not destructive evil, please go to the Pink Cross Foundation. Of course, when the hate site initiative was set up, part of the problem the nest of extremist darwinists had was suspicious associations that tied in with porn, just as Rom 1 would warn] and can be succinct enough not to overload the software [--> A red herring distractor on alleged style rather than substance. Of course it takes far more effort to responsibly correct error than to spread it. (I suggest onlookers look here on for a survey on origins science and the design issue that MP would have done well to read before putting ignorance and strawmen on display.)].

I guess s/he counts on people failing to do due diligence.

And, based on the behaviour that is being tolerated, I see no good reason to wade into the fever swamp. Enough is said for record.

KF


too long url

Perhaps someone can remind me where I said this stuff. KF inconveniently left out the link, and my memory of posting it is gone.

I did say that disagreeing with Barry gets you banned. But it's true. How many of us succumbed to Barry's banathon? Basically UD puts Joe the pornographer and potty-mouth on a pedestal and bans people for expressing unpopular opinions.

Edited by midwifetoad on Aug. 22 2012,18:29

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,18:46   

Speaking as the only British (or at least, England and Wales) qualified lawyer who is likely to take an interest in this matter, I can say that KF really should have regard to the reply to the plaintiff in Pressdram Ltd v. Arkell.

Nothing further occurs at this time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,19:21   

Quote (REC @ Aug. 22 2012,12:27)
KF doesn't get the "so long as you dont link to porn" on TSZ reference to Joe's 'tunie' link, and has this to say:

 
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Of course, when the hate site initiative was set up, part of the problem the nest of extremist darwinists had was suspicious associations that tied in with porn, just as Rom 1 would warn


Anyone know what he is talking about? "hate site initiative"? "suspicious associations tied in with porn"?

Amazing that every time he brings up libel, he slanders someone else, in this case calling Liddle a pornographer, a hate site founder, and all that comes with Romans 1:

 
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For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness.....

gordo's favorite bible spewage is rom 1. He quotes it a LOT.


Let's take a look at the parts of rom 1 that gordo especially likes to wield like a weapon:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible manand birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[d] unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. (my bolding)

Hey gordo, have you killed your kids? Surely they have been disobedient at times.

And what about this that you said the other day:

"Indeed, a man I own as friend is a murder convict here, who was literally sitting in his cell hearing the gallows being set up and tested for him. A man who reached out to him brought the gospel and hope. Her Majesty at just that time said enough and insisted on abolition of hanging in territories under her crown. He was thus saved from the rope in a context that led to penitence and transformation so complete that he freely walks back and forth between his cell and his rehabilitation job in the shop now operated by that mans children.

He is forgiven and transformed through godly discipleship.

Which is exactly what the fuller counsels of the scriptures would lead us to expect. As well as 2,000 years of cases in point."

According to rom 1, and you gordo, that murderer "friend" you "own" is "without excuse" and "deserving of death", so why aren't you campaigning for his death or killing him yourself? You don't want to piss off your genocidal god by going against his commands, do you?

And hey gordo, since you are futile in your thoughts and have a darkened heart, and are vile in your passions, debased, lustful, full of unrighteousness, unclean, covetous, malicious, deceitful, evil minded, and are a whisperer and backbiter, violent, proud, a boaster, an inventor of evil things, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful, supportive (or owner) of murderers or maybe even a murderer yourself, full of envy, and a willful, chronic LIAR, and since you profess to be wise but are certainly a fool, and since you're a slanderer, a God-hater (you hate all gods other than yhwh), and since you are exceedingly wicked, and I'd bet that you were disobedient to your parents many times, aren't you "deserving of death"?

And since you not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice at least some of them (joe g and the other IDiot creationists and many other religious zombies), aren't you especially "deserving of death" according to your own 'worldview' as an evangelical, fundamentalist, biblical inerrantist?

Oh, and since your wife approves of your "practice", isn't she "deserving of death" too? After all, even if you have her chained to a post in your basement and force her to go along with you via daily beatings with mr. leathers and other sadistic, "mafioso style" "correction", she is "without excuse".

By the way gordo, is "Godhead" a type of fellatio/sodomy?

Edited by The whole truth on Aug. 22 2012,17:25

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,19:34   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Aug. 22 2012,18:02)
I can think of few places where this statement would be deemed necessary:
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Barry Arrington
August 22, 2012 at 8:07 am

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mphillips has not been banned.


UD link

UD moderators have said that before-of persons not "banned" per se, but just in the limbo of moderation that takes the kindness of a moderator to find the comment and approve it.

Do we think Barry actually searched through the lists of the banned and moderated to make sure mphillips isn't among them?

Seems odd he was on such a role-then KF is declaring victory and calling out the <crickets> on the thread shortly after his last post..

  
REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,19:37   

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kairosfocus August 22, 2012 at 12:45 pm
F/N: I decides to follow up, just in case. Even when caught red handed in deceit, publicly corrected and given authoritative statement that MP is not banned, Petrushka continues the willful deceit. Let me clip, as yet further record on why Petrushka has become poster child no 1 on what sort of behaviour we are dealing with:
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I cant tell for sure but is KF owning up to or denying banning mphillips? [--> A willfully false statement, as even the headline will show, Much less BA's direct declaration.] In case he finds time to read more

Come on over, KF and, so long as you dont link to porn [--> A character-assassinating smear, in fact I am noted for OPPOSING porn; anyone so foolish as to imagine it is not destructive evil, please go to the Pink Cross Foundation. Of course, when the hate site initiative was set up, part of the problem the nest of extremist darwinists had was suspicious associations that tied in with porn, just as Rom 1 would warn] and can be succinct enough not to overload the software [--> A red herring distractor on alleged style rather than substance. Of course it takes far more effort to responsibly correct error than to spread it. (I suggest onlookers look here on for a survey on origins science and the design issue that MP would have done well to read before putting ignorance and strawmen on display.)].

I guess s/he counts on people failing to do due diligence.

And, based on the behaviour that is being tolerated, I see no good reason to wade into the fever swamp. Enough is said for record.

KF


too long url

Perhaps someone can remind me where I said this stuff. KF inconveniently left out the link, and my memory of posting it is gone.

I did say that disagreeing with Barry gets you banned. But it's true. How many of us succumbed to Barry's banathon? Basically UD puts Joe the pornographer and potty-mouth on a pedestal and bans people for expressing unpopular opinions.

Wasn't you at all....Alan Fox at TSZ said this:

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I see Kairosfocus is reading comments here.

I cant tell for sure but is KF owning up to or denying banning mphillips? In case he finds time to read more

Come on over, KF and, so long as you dont link to porn and can be succinct enough not to overload the software, you will be very welcome, Im sure!


TSZ link

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,20:33   

UD is now as ridiculous and insular as Telic Thoughts.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,21:00   

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UD is now as ridiculous and insular as Telic Thoughts.

Just now?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,21:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 21 2012,23:41)
Bonus:

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If it had not been for C.S. Lewis, a Christian friend, the ID movement, and You Know Who, I might have condemned my children to a lifetime of darkness, as promoted by people like Richard Dawkins.


Here's my guesses for "You Know Who":

1) Liberace
2) Unnamed designer
3) Mr. Leathers
4) The guy that makes ladies blouses in men's sizes

HALP!

5) Tom Riddle

:p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,23:29   

Quote (sparc @ Aug. 22 2012,10:19)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 22 2012,00:41)
Bonus:

 
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If it had not been for C.S. Lewis, a Christian friend, the ID movement, and You Know Who, I might have condemned my children to a lifetime of darkness, as promoted by people like Richard Dawkins.


Here's my guesses for "You Know Who":

1) Liberace
2) Unnamed designer
3) Mr. Leathers
4) The guy that makes ladies blouses in men's sizes

HALP!


Gil's weeding was mentioned in the local press.

OMG!! He maried a Gay!!!

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2012,23:40   

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Anyone know what he is talking about? "hate site initiative"? "suspicious associations tied in with porn"?


He is talking about the fact that our esteemed Lou once posted a link to photo's he had taken professionally that were hosted on his own website. At least one of the pictures showed - gasp - a woman's naughty bits (above the waist only, I might add, but still devil's dumplings to be sure!)

Since then, he has taken several opportunities to state that this site associates with others offering pornography, or something like that. Sounds libelous to me, anyway.

Anyone got a link to that great passage where KF talks at length about having to force himself to watch some hot girl on girl action?

Here's one example:

"My wife drew my attention to it, and late one evening I took time to watch; only, to see an informal lewdness contest by a circle of women, "won" by one who shocked her companions by exposing then pulling down her underwear and publicly sexually manipulating her now quite plainly visible private parts in front of the now tightly focussed, pruriently watching cameras..."

From the last letter here.

Did he leave a link?  I have a deep yearning to admire God's handiwork and perhaps pick up a few design tips in the process.

  
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