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fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2014,15:02    Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 25 2014,05:52) Quote (Quack @ Oct. 24 2014,10:00) Wonderful indeed! What now remains for CSI aficionados is to test their pet hypothesis by the calculation of the CSI of any subject of their chosing. Is that too much to ask? Wouldn't that be the proper way of doing it, sciency, like? Doesn't the claim that there are objects of complexity beyond computability imply that there are objects below that limit, and therefore are computable? A demonstration of the computability of CSI therefore is what the world needs right now. The world is waiting for the Sunrise, according to Les Paul and Mary Ford. No ,what it means is when they ask their pet (preferably an African Grey) what is the CSI of a sock or mouth, the answer is foot. Norwegian Blue seems more appropriate, ID being bereft of life, etc... -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2014,16:10    You guys made me look!   That was really funny   Edited by Dr.GH on Oct. 25 2014,14:10 -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2014,16:11    Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 25 2014,03:35) At UD rich said to gordo, in this thread: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments "If this happened, it is reprehensible. If you can provide details we’ll see what can be done on ‘our end”." And: "KF – can you PM me here? If you can forward the relevant communications from the wrong-doers I’ll work with the moderators at the sites I frequent to try and take action." Hi Rich, why via PM? Why not out in the open? gordo's false accusations are aimed at me, and I have no problem with keeping everything out in the open. I have nothing to hide. gordo is just making shit up and has no "details" or "relevant communications" to provide. You'll see when he doesn't provide any. *If* it's true that his family is being attacked then that's not cool we should all condemn it - I wouldn't want their details in public. But I think KF has a tendency, how do I put this kindly... to exaggerate a bit. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2014,16:44    The UD regulars were already throwing fits over this new open posting policy where they actually have to defend their stupidity instead of the usual circle-jerk.  Now Laddy GaGa has discovered he's unbanned and has started posting his usual drivel. This could get interesting!   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2014,20:33    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Oct. 25 2014,16:44) The UD regulars were already throwing fits over this new open posting policy where they actually have to defend their stupidity instead of the usual circle-jerk.  Now Laddy GaGa has discovered he's unbanned and has started posting his usual drivel. This could get interesting!   :D Not really because the open posting policy has already ended.

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,01:48    Quest: Quote Anybody would care to explain WHY Darwinists demand a scientific method to detect design in nature for what is obvious to everyone but them…? Learned Hand: Quote Because lots of things that seem obvious turn out to not be true. WJM: Quote By this same argument, because a lot of things that seem obvious turn out to be true, we should accept all things that seem obvious as true. link WJM is on a roll. -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,05:26    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 25 2014,14:11) Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 25 2014,03:35) At UD rich said to gordo, in this thread: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments "If this happened, it is reprehensible. If you can provide details we’ll see what can be done on ‘our end”." And: "KF – can you PM me here? If you can forward the relevant communications from the wrong-doers I’ll work with the moderators at the sites I frequent to try and take action." Hi Rich, why via PM? Why not out in the open? gordo's false accusations are aimed at me, and I have no problem with keeping everything out in the open. I have nothing to hide. gordo is just making shit up and has no "details" or "relevant communications" to provide. You'll see when he doesn't provide any. *If* it's true that his family is being attacked then that's not cool we should all condemn it - I wouldn't want their details in public. But I think KF has a tendency, how do I put this kindly... to exaggerate a bit. Rich, you should already be fully aware of the fact that gordon elliott mullings is, among other deplorable things, a chronically blatant liar, malicious false accuser, massive exaggerator, and all-around paranoid nutcase. Since you apparently need more evidence of that, I suggest that you read comments 286 through 412 in the UD thread linked below (you can ignore the comments by batshit77). Pay special attention to the comments by franklin and gordo. http://tinyurl.com/avyvxjv....avyvxjv And feel free to look at the rest of that thread to see if I am leaving anything relevant out by suggesting the reading of comments 286 through 412. By the way, tonight is the first time I have seen and read that thread, but I already knew that gordo is full of SHIT. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

BillB Posts: 388 Joined: Aug. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,12:28    Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 26 2014,11:26) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 25 2014,14:11) Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 25 2014,03:35) At UD rich said to gordo, in this thread: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments "If this happened, it is reprehensible. If you can provide details we’ll see what can be done on ‘our end”." And: "KF – can you PM me here? If you can forward the relevant communications from the wrong-doers I’ll work with the moderators at the sites I frequent to try and take action." Hi Rich, why via PM? Why not out in the open? gordo's false accusations are aimed at me, and I have no problem with keeping everything out in the open. I have nothing to hide. gordo is just making shit up and has no "details" or "relevant communications" to provide. You'll see when he doesn't provide any. *If* it's true that his family is being attacked then that's not cool we should all condemn it - I wouldn't want their details in public. But I think KF has a tendency, how do I put this kindly... to exaggerate a bit. Rich, you should already be fully aware of the fact that gordon elliott mullings is, among other deplorable things, a chronically blatant liar, malicious false accuser, massive exaggerator, and all-around paranoid nutcase. Since you apparently need more evidence of that, I suggest that you read comments 286 through 412 in the UD thread linked below (you can ignore the comments by batshit77). Pay special attention to the comments by franklin and gordo. http://tinyurl.com/avyvxjv....avyvxjv And feel free to look at the rest of that thread to see if I am leaving anything relevant out by suggesting the reading of comments 286 through 412. By the way, tonight is the first time I have seen and read that thread, but I already knew that gordo is full of SHIT. Reminds  me of my attempts to discuss the issue of latching and weasels ... apparently 'latching', in KF land, is defined as any change in anything ...

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,12:59    Quote By the way, tonight is the first time I have seen and read that thread, but I already knew that gordo is full of SHIT. So what is needed is a common enema?

BillB Posts: 388 Joined: Aug. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,13:11    Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 26 2014,18:59) Quote By the way, tonight is the first time I have seen and read that thread, but I already knew that gordo is full of SHIT. So what is needed is a common enema? POTW also... enema at the gate ... the enema within ...

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,13:11    Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 26 2014,12:59) Quote By the way, tonight is the first time I have seen and read that thread, but I already knew that gordo is full of SHIT. So what is needed is a common enema? Since Gordo is full of shit, as are must of his arguments, he might construe the suggestion of an enema to be a death threat. Right Gordon?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,16:24    Quote 600 richOctober 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm BA77: “I second gppucio, the quality of posts has certainly taken a nose dive. ,,,” Could you support that with 800 words of copypasta including 7 YouTube links, please? 810 comments at the moment

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,19:33    Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 26 2014,10:59) Quote By the way, tonight is the first time I have seen and read that thread, but I already knew that gordo is full of SHIT. So what is needed is a common enema? Yeah, of biblical flood proportions. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,20:08    they open up the banned/moderated list, and a thread gets 840 comments in 3 days? That was some kinda suppression going down.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,20:13    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2014,20:08) they open up the banned/moderated list, and a thread gets 840 comments in 3 days? That was some kinda suppression going down. See how uncompetitive the regulars are... -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,20:51    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 26 2014,20:13)   Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2014,20:08) they open up the banned/moderated list, and a thread gets 840 comments in 3 days? That was some kinda suppression going down. See how uncompetitive the regulars are... Not unlike the results when the IOC allowed professional NBA players into the Olympic Games. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2014,22:08    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Oct. 26 2014,20:51) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 26 2014,20:13)   Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2014,20:08) they open up the banned/moderated list, and a thread gets 840 comments in 3 days? That was some kinda suppression going down. See how uncompetitive the regulars are... Not unlike the results when the IOC allowed professional NBA players into the Olympic Games. But they have also kept that OP at the top of the main page the entire time. I don't remember seeing this tactic in the past. But I could be wrong. But you will also notice that the number of different anti-ID commenters has significantly decreased since the initial amnesty. I don't know how much if this decrease is due to banning, but I do know for certain that banning and moderation is back on the table. The big difference is that Barry has stopped making the bannings public.

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 27 2014,01:30    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Oct. 27 2014,01:51) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 26 2014,20:13)   Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2014,20:08) they open up the banned/moderated list, and a thread gets 840 comments in 3 days? That was some kinda suppression going down. See how uncompetitive the regulars are... Not unlike the results when the IOC allowed professional NBA players into the Olympic Games. The situation is more reminiscent of the Jamaican Bobsleigh team pushed by Eddie the Eagle Edwards on skis trying to play water polo. -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 27 2014,07:35    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 26 2014,16:24) Quote 600 richOctober 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm BA77: “I second gppucio, the quality of posts has certainly taken a nose dive. ,,,” Could you support that with 800 words of copypasta including 7 YouTube links, please? 810 comments at the moment I passed through just after Thorton had posted comment 747 This seemed appropriate, particularly since "logically_speaking" at #746 had just asserted Quote The barriers to unguided darwinian evolution are, not enough time, not enough chance, has no direction, can only use things it already has, and only gets started when it’s already in progress. Methinks the claim is a tornado short of a junkyard.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 27 2014,14:27    I'm beginning to wonder if Barry unbanned some science commenters just to keep the morons like JoeTard, Phoodoo, Mapou, Andre, etc. busy while News does her other threads. Maybe there was method in his madness.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 27 2014,21:44    Quote The barriers to unguided Darwinian evolution are, not enough time, not enough chance, has no direction, can only use things it already has, and only gets started when it�s already in progress. Methinks those are like oversimplified descriptions of some of the constraints that are actually implied by the theory of evolution. Which I guess makes them more effective to readers who don't double-check stuff.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 27 2014,23:34    Gordon Mulling talking to Rich:  "Rich, you are now on strike 1 for schoolyard taunting trollish behaviour," Later in the comment thread: "Strike Two"

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2014,00:01    Quote 47 Alan Fox October 27, 2014 at 3:03 pmOT @ GEM I was on Jersey a couple of weeks ago and visited the Durrell wildlife Centre where I was interested to learn about the efforts to save the Mountain chicken from extinction. I see from press reports that fifty frogs bred at Durrell were released back into the wild on Montserrat just recently. I did have to smile that this involved funding from the Darwin Initiative. Maybe the results of googling "Darwin Initiative" KF's real last name is why he gets so mad if someone mentions it. removed link to Google for meltdown prevention Edited by sparc on Oct. 28 2014,00:58 -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2014,02:31    Rich, has gordo PMed you and provided you with supporting evidence for his accusations? Keep in mind that gordo has been making his unsupported accusations for a long time. To him the evidence would be vitally important and his anal-retentive proclivities would certainly mean that he would have the evidence very well organized and immediately available in a computer file, likely with added links and graphics along with thousands of words of explanation. He has claimed multiple times to have presented the evidence to local and international law enforcement agencies and to a lawyer. So where's the evidence? -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2014,08:42    Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 22 2014,09:15) Quote (sparc @ Oct. 22 2014,05:26)   Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 21 2014,21:01)     Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 21 2014,16:52)     Quote (Texas Teach @ Oct. 21 2014,16:29)       Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 21 2014,12:48)       Quote UD Announces General Amnesty October 21, 2014 Posted by Barry Arrington Today UD editors completely deleted both their “banned” list and their “comment moderation” list. Anyone in the world with access to the internet is currently free to comment on the site. I (i.e., Barry Arrington) am almost certainly going to regret this decision and sooner rather than later. There were hundreds of trolls trapped in the “banned” and “moderation” queues. Frankly, images of this scene from Ghostbusters went through my mind as a pressed the “release” button. WTF??? Someone please contact DaveTard and get him over there.  Please? I don't ask for much, but I need to see that. +1. +2 seconded ...coff... Dave tard clears throat.. LISTEN UP GIRLYMEN IF YOUALL THINK I'M GO BACK TO THE SAME BLARG AS THAT ASSBACKWARDS MORPHODYKE YOU HAVE MUSHROOMS IN YOUR HEADS. I'M NEVER GOING BACK UNLESS BARRY HANDS OVER THE PASSWORDS AND GETS ME A COFFEE ON HIS WAY OUT. THEN THINGS WILL DIFFERENT. FIRST OFF I'LL SEND JANIEBELL SOME FLOWERS AND THEN SWING THE BAN HAMMER ON KF FOR STEALING MY TAGLINE PS PPS SIGS. THEN I'LL INVITE JOE OVER TO FIX MY FRIDGES AND WHEN HE BENDS OVER AND SHOWS ME HISS ASS CRACK I'LL SET MY DOGS ON HIM. IF HE COMPLAINS THE SHERIFF AND ME WILL GET OUR CHAINSAWS OUT AND GIVE HIM A BIT OF TEXAS HOSPITALITY. UD CAN ROT IN HELL. © davetard Done. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2014,08:58    Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 28 2014,02:31) Rich, has gordo PMed you and provided you with supporting evidence for his accusations? Keep in mind that gordo has been making his unsupported accusations for a long time. To him the evidence would be vitally important and his anal-retentive proclivities would certainly mean that he would have the evidence very well organized and immediately available in a computer file, likely with added links and graphics along with thousands of words of explanation. He has claimed multiple times to have presented the evidence to local and international law enforcement agencies and to a lawyer. So where's the evidence? Nothing, no details - and they would have been very easy to provide. Pinch of salt and all that. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2014,09:10    Waiting for Densye to go schismatic in three . . . two . . . whatever the next one is . . . The Independent: "Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right and God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand' "   Quote “When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said. Edited by Amadan on Oct. 28 2014,15:10 -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2014,09:30    Damned activist Popes!

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2014,12:01    Almost, but not entirely omnipotent. Just one number short of infinity. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2014,12:14    Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 28 2014,12:01) Almost, but not entirely omnipotent. Just one number short of infinity. Infinite, for small values of infinity

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