ericmurphy
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As usual, Dave goes off on one of his aggressively stupid tangents. He's now going to spend the next couple of days trying to prove that there are canyon walls on the Toutle river that are just as steep as the walls of the Grand Canyon, which even if he could find them, provide absolutely no evidence of a global flood, nor would they answer any of the two dozen "big picture" questions about his mythical flood that he claims we're all missing because we're lost in the details of mud vs. hard rock.
It's the same thing as all his other arguments. C14 dating doesn't work because it provides erroneous dates under circumstances it's already known not to be accurate. Radiometric dating in general doesn't work because a guy once found a couple of anomalous results using a method that's been discredited for decades. Dendrochronology doesn't work because, well, because it doesn't. Portuguese = French + Spanish because some French knights moved to Portugal in the 15th century. Chimps are more closely related to Gorillas than they are to humans because, well, isn't it obvious that they look more like gorillas?
Many people get lost in the trees looking for the forest, Dave. You can't see the forest or the trees.
So stop wasting our time on the Toutle River, Dave. Let's hear some answers on where the millions of cubic kilometers of the water your flood needs came from, and where they went. Let's hear where the thousands of feet of sediment came from (hint: they didn't erode from the mountains), and how they all managed to sort themselves into layers worldwide while being laid down at rates approaching a meter an hour. Let's hear your theory on how the continents separated from each other at hundreds of miles an hour without melting themselves and boiling off the earth's oceans. Let's hear about how the Himalayas were formed in an afternoon. Let's hear how the Appalachians formed and eroded in an afternoon. Let's hear about how every ant on the planet today is descended from a single pair of ants 4,500 years ago. Let's hear about how the redwoods I see every weekend on my bike rides in Marin, some of which are thousands of years old, either a) managed to survive the flood, or b) are descended from—what?—some seedlings?—some seeds?—Noah kept on the ark. And where did those seeds come from, Dave? Redwoods live on the Pacific Northwest coast of North America and nowhere else. Even if you could walk from downtown Jerusalem to Muir Valley in 2,500 B.C., how much warning did Noah have about the flood that gave him time to get there and back, while he was overseeing the construction of his ark? Or did he book a first-class ticket on the Concorde?
What about that ice age, Dave? Humans have been literate since your flood. How come none of them had anything to say about a winter that froze most of the planet solid? How come there's no independent evidence of it from any source? Not even a written source?
I could go on and on, Dave. I could fill five pages of 5,000-word posts on things your global flood doesn't have a prayer of explaining. You say your flood gives a "more satisfactory" explanation for the "big questions." Actually, it doesn't give any kind of explanation for any of the questions, big or small. For every "explanation" you can come up with, I can come with a hundred questions it has no answer for at all.
I told you a long time ago, Dave, that for your "Creator God Hypothesis" to have any legs, you were going to have to disprove 90 to 95% of all scientific knowledge gathered over the last 500 years, because the remaining 5 or 10% would be more than enough to totally annihilate your "hypothesis." Well, here we are, more than 3,000 posts later, and you haven't managed to poke so much as a pin-prick in a single piece of scientific evidence for an old earth and for the Theory of Evolution. You haven't managed to support a single claim you've made on any subject, no matter how closely or distantly related to your "Creator God Hypothesis."
You missed "hammering" us with the "truth" about your "Global Flood"? That's pathetic, Dave. Your "arguments" have been beaten to death, eviscerated, burned to ash and blown out of a cannon. But the truly comical, hilarious part about it is you don't even realize how thoroughly they've been annihilated. You actually think you're winning!
Glad to have you back, Dave.
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