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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2014,08:18   

Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 15 2014,21:45)
Quote (Learned Hand @ Oct. 16 2014,00:32)
UD is celebrating the triumphant release of Being as Communion, which has glowing reviews from Rupert Sheldrake (who is touting his affiliation with Cambridge, despite not working there for a Biblical 40 years) and a "General Medical Practitioner." I do not think this is a book that is going to make waves among serious philosophers or scientists.

I checked the user reviews, half expecting to find one from "A Reader from Riesel." Instead, there is a five-star review from "The Math Man," which just reads, "very happy." The Math Man left identical pithy five-star reviews for a bronze "Jesus Christ Blessing Statue" and a "Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane" sculpture.

Between The Math Man and the UD echo chamber, I believe Dr. Dembski has found his audience.

Now that his true calling is transparent.....Maybe his next book will be "No free Communion"...

They will claim that it's donations rather than payments they revceive. I.e., free will therfore Jesus.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2014,21:24   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Oct. 14 2014,20:51)
vjtorley has just posted what may be the single dumbest article he's ever written.  It's about Denmark.  I'll give you the gist of it here:

1) vj states the problem:
"Denmark and Sweden are two countries which are often cited by atheists as proof that secular morality can work. Professor Jerry Coyne, for instance, has written dozens of articles praising Denmark ..."

2) Citations and examples of Jerry Coyne praising these countries are given.

3) vj drops this clanger:
"Perhaps Coyne might be interested to read an eye-opening article by Carol Brown over at American Thinker on what is happening in Denmark. Ms. Brown paints a terrifying portrait of a society which is falling apart under the influence of religiously motivated violence. "

Jesus!

The article is even worse on second reading.  It concludes with this:    
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Some morals to be drawn from Brown’s article:

1. Not all forms of religion are good; some are toxic.

2. Nature abhors a vacuum. Secularism is powerless to drive out toxic forms of religion.

3. The only proven way to drive out toxic forms of religion, and keep them out, is with wholesome forms of religion.

I'll agree with vj on item 1.  We probably differ on the percentage of religions that are toxic, of course.  I have a hunch Dr. Torley considers all religions except Christianity to be "toxic."  I add one more to his list.

2 is a clanger.  Just ask Kent Hovind.  We do, unfortunately, bend over backwards in this country to excuse the most atrocious conduct if it's committed by a clergyman, but there are several Imams and other clergy who have managed to join "Dr." Hovind behind bars.

3 scares me.  How is a "wholesome religion" going to "drive out" a "toxic religion" if the secular authorities can't?  

Are they going to pray for them?  Fat chance.  

Convert them?  Fatter chance.  

Take a page out of Martin Luther's book, "On the Jews and Their Lies", and set their mosques and schools on fire, destroy their books, forbid their clergy to preach, draft them into forced labor, declare them beyond the law's protection and confiscate their property and money?

You scare me, Dr. Torley.  I think you'd scare Jesus, too, since he was a member of a "toxic religion" according to no less a Christian authority than Martin Luther.

Wikipedia "On the Jews and Their Lies"

The book "On the Jews and Their Lies"

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2014,21:58   

I hate to keep posting about the Something is Rotten in Denmark thread, but vj has just provided a new .SIG for anybody who needs one:

The presence of polemic in a news story does not make it unreliable.

No, but that's the way to bet.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2014,22:07   

Tribal warfare is the answer. But be sure always to win.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2014,22:37   

I'm always amazed how your ultra right wing dislike atheists the most. More than other religions.

Oh, you've got your own magic book and a different true God?

Meh.

You don't Believe???!!!!




Its like there's some pact amongst con men or something. Plus I think the ultra right is jealous of what Islam is able to achieve - total control of the populace, death for all manner of religious crimes, women relegated to the role of breeding / property.

Edited by Richardthughes on Oct. 16 2014,22:37

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,06:18   

Tardigradous, "Slow-paced; moving or stepping slowly."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-an....94.html

Edited by Zachriel on Oct. 17 2014,06:18

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,08:34   

So we should start calling the UD inDUHviduals "water bears"?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,11:13   

In this thread at UD http://tinyurl.com/kv7pd7j....kv7pd7j gordo mullings tries to sound sciency and intelligent by barfing up this mess:

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kairosfocus October 7, 2014 at 1:54 am

IDS: Yes, it is by our knowledge of English across the centuries that we recognise complex, specific functionality in the string from Hamlet. On that strength, we THEN address, can such be credibly accessed by a blind chance and necessity search/sample of the population of possibilities? The answer on search window to scope of config space and necessary isolation of such islands of function is obvious. No. This illustrates the power of the design inference on detection of FSCO/I and to tax that with, oh you are not producing a universal decoder algorithm is first irrelevant. Second, as a glance at theory of computation will assure us that such a universal algorithm is utterly implausible, it is in effect saying unless you do the near or actual impossible as well, I will not listen to what you are doing successfully. Please rethink. KF

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Well then, let's see what gordo accomplished by spewing that:

He confirmed that "the string from Hamlet" is recognizable to people who have knowledge of English across the centuries. In other words, so-called "complex, specific functionality" in something is recognizable to humans who already thoroughly know the history of something that was invented and produced by humans. Duh.

He claimed that "the string from Hamlet" can't "be credibly accessed by a blind chance and necessity search/sample of the population of possibilities", which no one asserted that it could, and gordo obviously believes that because Shakespeare designed and created "the string from Hamlet", it somehow proves that yhwh-isho-holy-ghost designed and created EVERYTHING.

gordo admitted that there's no "universal decoder algorithm" to detect FSCO/I (just plain old CSI to most IDiots) and that such an algorithm is "utterly implausible" and "near or actual impossible as well", even though he often posts a bunch of mathy-sciency looking equations as though they're THE universal decoder algorithm to reliably detect FSCO/I.

I'm sure that gordo doesn't realize it but he destroyed the ID 'inference' or 'theory' in his statements quoted above. IDiots claim that intelligent design (including FSCO/I or CSI) in nature can be reliably detected and measured, using their sciency methods (LOL), without knowing anything about the origin and history of whatever it is that is being examined. IDiots claim that they have and use mathy-sciency universal decoder algorithms to detect and measure intelligent design, including FSCO/I or CSI (the 500 bit thing, etc.).

gordo has inadvertently admitted in his statements quoted above that 'ID' is unreliable, non-scientific bullshit.


ETA: Replaced the UD url with one that works, I hope.

Edited by The whole truth on Oct. 17 2014,09:20

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,14:22   

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AVSMarch 30, 2014 at 6:16 pm

Wow, BA, I knew you’d humor me with a response. You’re not even coming out of left field with that one though, you’re coming out of the parking lot and going in the opposite direction. I didn’t attribute a decrease in entropy as “the creator of life on Earth,” I was simply referring to the decrease in entropy as the first steps toward the generation of life. And this, as I said was driven by the constant energy input by the sun. Earth provided the right conditions and the sun provided the energy, the decrease in entropy that is the generation of life was inevitable.
Just another of example of you completely misunderstanding, misrepresenting, or completely missing the point.
Oh well, back to the real world for me, toodaloo.


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,14:05   

Barry Arrington has gone off the deep end, resurrecting the Darwinian Debating Device series. Apparently there are 13 of them now. I would like to think that I was responsible for a couple of them.

From what I can see, this is nothing but a training manual on how to debate people who don't believe that god created everything. Frankly, I find the comments on each of these is far more interesting reading than the actual OPs.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,14:37   

UD is rapidly becoming more insular and cultish. Big brother Barry and Gordon working hard to protect the flock from outsiders.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,15:02   

If an anti-IDist calls someone insane, it is an ad hominems. When Barry calls someon insane, it is just a valid observation.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,17:35   

i just want to see barry pick another fight with a scientist like Shallitt. That was tits.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,23:22   

Eric Anderson on Intelligent Design Basics – Information – Part IV – Shannon II:      
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A Little String Theory

Consider the following two strings:

String 1:

kqsifpsbeiiserglabetpoebarrspmsnagraytetfs

String 2:


Just wondering why Eric chose the second string from his image search: lmgtfy (NSFW even with safesearch set to "strict")

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,00:16   

Quote (sparc @ Oct. 18 2014,23:22)
Eric Anderson on Intelligent Design Basics – Information – Part IV – Shannon II:      
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A Little String Theory

Consider the following two strings:

String 1:

kqsifpsbeiiserglabetpoebarrspmsnagraytetfs

String 2:


Just wondering why Eric chose the second string from his image search: lmgtfy (NSFW even with safesearch set to "strict")

Sparc - you're now a pioneer of ID ... You've managed to learn something about the designer.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,04:02   

Cannot un-see...

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,05:27   

The first one is a representation of a binary digital sequence. The second is a representation of a binary digital sequence. How does his example take his argument forward?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,16:28   

Barry is in full bossy-fit mode over at UD. In one of the comment strings, Barry stated that one of the comments was staggeringly stupid and that the commenter was incapable of rational thought. Then a commenter named Tintinnid accused him of using one of the Darwinian Debating Devices, the one on ad hominems. To respond to this, Barry wrote an OP explaining why his comment was not an ad hominem. In this, he detailed a chain of comments made by Tintinnid that triggered his original comment. Tintinnid provided this response:

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Barry, claiming that a person is incapable of rational thought based on one comment is definitely an ad hominem attack because you are assuming that a person who makes one stupid statement is not capable of rational thought. This is obviously wrong. But we know that Barry could never be wrong.

If someone makes a false statement that is easily verified, are they a liar or just staggeringly stupid? I will let you think it over while you verify the source of the Lego comment.


It turns out that it was not Tintinnid who Barry was commenting about. And I always thought that Barry was infallible.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,16:34   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 19 2014,16:28)
Barry is in full bossy-fit mode over at UD. In one of the comment strings, Barry stated that one of the comments was staggeringly stupid and that the commenter was incapable of rational thought. Then a commenter named Tintinnid accused him of using one of the Darwinian Debating Devices, the one on ad hominems. To respond to this, Barry wrote an OP explaining why his comment was not an ad hominem. In this, he detailed a chain of comments made by Tintinnid that triggered his original comment. Tintinnid provided this response:

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Barry, claiming that a person is incapable of rational thought based on one comment is definitely an ad hominem attack because you are assuming that a person who makes one stupid statement is not capable of rational thought. This is obviously wrong. But we know that Barry could never be wrong.

If someone makes a false statement that is easily verified, are they a liar or just staggeringly stupid? I will let you think it over while you verify the source of the Lego comment.


It turns out that it was not Tintinnid who Barry was commenting about. And I always thought that Barry was infallible.

Linky?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,16:36   

Barry's been on a slow-burn meltdown for months now. I just saw this from him:

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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”


So it is the same god then, Barry? well done! Care to show your work....?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,17:19   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 19 2014,21:36)
Barry's been on a slow-burn meltdown for months now. I just saw this from him:

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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”

Looks like argumentum ad populum.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,01:07   

If I were a betting man, I'd say Arrington will offer a snide not-pology and blame Tintinnid. After all, he should have known what comment Arrington was thinking of and meekly pointed out the error, rather than being uncharitable like a stupid irrational Darwinist.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,02:28   

Whoooooah there! Did anyone catch this?

 
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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”


Them's fightin words, Barry!

In days long ago, when I first trawled UD, I had it explained to me (with the most beautiful illustrations meticulously crayoned in) that it was completely incorrect to refer to the Mooslum "god" as being the same as the Abrahamic God of Christianity and Those Poor Jooz.

No sir, the camel jockeys worship some sort of a Baal clone who doubles as a Moon "god". We got books to prove it too. My correspondent (can't recall who) assureds me that all those heretics and pointy-headed theologians and academics who said otherwise (e.g. the guy in a dress in Rome) were just plain wrong. (Sadly, my exchanges on UD were all vanished because of my profligate use of phrases such as Theological/Administrative Reductuve Discourse or True Atheists Reject Darwin.)

It would be entertaining to see the response if Barry were to ask the intellrejectia of UD whether they agreed that they god of Islam is the Abrahamic one.

Then again, perhaps the "three great monotheistic faiths" that Barry is referring to are The First Reformed Baptist Church of Christ Republican, the Stand Your Holy Ground Assembly and The Barefoot & Pregnant Tabernacle.

Edited by Amadan on Oct. 20 2014,08:28

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,05:45   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 19 2014,17:36)
Barry's been on a slow-burn meltdown for months now. I just saw this from him:

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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”


So it is the same god then, Barry? well done! Care to show your work....?

So, Barry thinks a category error consists in putting something in the wrong category?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,07:43   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 20 2014,03:45)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 19 2014,17:36)
Barry's been on a slow-burn meltdown for months now. I just saw this from him:

   
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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”


So it is the same god then, Barry? well done! Care to show your work....?

So, Barry thinks a category error consists in putting something in the wrong category?

Allow Barry to retort.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,07:58   

Quote (paragwinn @ Oct. 20 2014,12:43)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 20 2014,03:45)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 19 2014,17:36)
Barry's been on a slow-burn meltdown for months now. I just saw this from him:

     
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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”


So it is the same god then, Barry? well done! Care to show your work....?

So, Barry thinks a category error consists in putting something in the wrong category?

Allow Barry to retort.

Oh. Creator god therefore different. What about all the other creator gods, Barry? Or are they not great (popular) enough. Or perhaps they lack the volume and pretentious of theological exposition that makes  Barry's god "great". You know, ground of being. Sounds impressive.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,08:00   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 20 2014,10:45)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 19 2014,17:36)
Barry's been on a slow-burn meltdown for months now. I just saw this from him:

 
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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”


So it is the same god then, Barry? well done! Care to show your work....?

So, Barry thinks a category error consists in putting something in the wrong category?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,08:02   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 20 2014,02:28)
Whoooooah there! Did anyone catch this?

   
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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”


Them's fightin words, Barry!

In days long ago, when I first trawled UD, I had it explained to me (with the most beautiful illustrations meticulously crayoned in) that it was completely incorrect to refer to the Mooslum "god" as being the same as the Abrahamic God of Christianity and Those Poor Jooz.

No sir, the camel jockeys worship some sort of a Baal clone who doubles as a Moon "god". We got books to prove it too. My correspondent (can't recall who) assureds me that all those heretics and pointy-headed theologians and academics who said otherwise (e.g. the guy in a dress in Rome) were just plain wrong. (Sadly, my exchanges on UD were all vanished because of my profligate use of phrases such as Theological/Administrative Reductuve Discourse or True Atheists Reject Darwin.)

It would be entertaining to see the response if Barry were to ask the intellrejectia of UD whether they agreed that they god of Islam is the Abrahamic one.

Then again, perhaps the "three great monotheistic faiths" that Barry is referring to are The First Reformed Baptist Church of Christ Republican, the Stand Your Holy Ground Assembly and The Barefoot & Pregnant Tabernacle.

If there is one consistent thing about UD it's that they are not consistent.

Of course, that applies to the principles they believe in too.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,09:50   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 19 2014,16:34)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Oct. 19 2014,16:28)
Barry is in full bossy-fit mode over at UD. In one of the comment strings, Barry stated that one of the comments was staggeringly stupid and that the commenter was incapable of rational thought. Then a commenter named Tintinnid accused him of using one of the Darwinian Debating Devices, the one on ad hominems. To respond to this, Barry wrote an OP explaining why his comment was not an ad hominem. In this, he detailed a chain of comments made by Tintinnid that triggered his original comment. Tintinnid provided this response:

 
Quote
Barry, claiming that a person is incapable of rational thought based on one comment is definitely an ad hominem attack because you are assuming that a person who makes one stupid statement is not capable of rational thought. This is obviously wrong. But we know that Barry could never be wrong.

If someone makes a false statement that is easily verified, are they a liar or just staggeringly stupid? I will let you think it over while you verify the source of the Lego comment.


It turns out that it was not Tintinnid who Barry was commenting about. And I always thought that Barry was infallible.

Linky?

UD

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,09:53   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 20 2014,08:02)
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 20 2014,02:28)
Whoooooah there! Did anyone catch this?

   
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Gervais has made a glaring category error by lumping the God of the three great monotheistic faiths in with other “gods”


Them's fightin words, Barry!

In days long ago, when I first trawled UD, I had it explained to me (with the most beautiful illustrations meticulously crayoned in) that it was completely incorrect to refer to the Mooslum "god" as being the same as the Abrahamic God of Christianity and Those Poor Jooz.

No sir, the camel jockeys worship some sort of a Baal clone who doubles as a Moon "god". We got books to prove it too. My correspondent (can't recall who) assureds me that all those heretics and pointy-headed theologians and academics who said otherwise (e.g. the guy in a dress in Rome) were just plain wrong. (Sadly, my exchanges on UD were all vanished because of my profligate use of phrases such as Theological/Administrative Reductuve Discourse or True Atheists Reject Darwin.)

It would be entertaining to see the response if Barry were to ask the intellrejectia of UD whether they agreed that they god of Islam is the Abrahamic one.

Then again, perhaps the "three great monotheistic faiths" that Barry is referring to are The First Reformed Baptist Church of Christ Republican, the Stand Your Holy Ground Assembly and The Barefoot & Pregnant Tabernacle.

If there is one consistent thing about UD it's that they are not consistent.

Of course, that applies to the principles they believe in too.

The other consistent thing is their repeated insistence that ID has nothing to do with religion. I guess this OP was just a public service announcement.

  
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