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Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:25    Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 20 2014,18:13) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,17:53) http://pro-science.blogspot.com/2007.......-g.html If only he could actually state the evidence that he's claimed to have "already done" so many times. Comon Joey, instead of saying, why not just do it. Surely, by now, the internet is full of dozens of places you've done things like define the specifications of specific strings of text and defined the recipe to build an animal... i mean a cake or whatever it is that you think is intelligently built... or whatever it is that you think, since you're too chicken to come right out and say it. I'm willing to give you another guest post Joey if you will write down exactly what you think, the evidence for it, and an example of a determination of specification for any real thing. The only requirement is that will be what we hold you to until you make a good case for changing your mind. I don't even know why I bother. You're too chicken to take a stand on a position that you can't backpedal or weasel word your way out of. You can post it here and I'll copy it over. Which I won't ever have to worry about doing. And please don't think that three sentences will work, especially when the first contradicts the last. And don't make this about evolution or anything else. This time, it's purely about you Joey. The offer stands. Shame you aren't man enough to step up to it. Fuck you Kevin- as I have told you many times I need to see what you consider to be the evidence for evolutionism. That way you can't keep backpedaling when I produce the evidence for ID. I did that on your blog and like the ignorant coward you are you whines" That is not evidence!" My blog has many posts devoted to supporting ID. You are more than welcome to come over and discuss it. But you won't because you are a chicken-shit little punk who needs the support of a mob. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:27    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,17:47) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,17:40) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,17:39)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,17:35)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,17:34) and of course the classic:     Quote I have watched this with some fascination. It is amazing how short Joe's memory is. When he first started posting at NAiG (before Stratus told him to hit the road) he actually made threats from his work computer. That's how one of the posters there learned his identity - the IP traced to Joe Gallien at Stratus Computers. It is too funny to see Joe try to rewrite history. I don't blame him, as shameful as his conduct has been. As far as "nothing happening to him", well take that with a grain of salt. He no longer works for that employer, and it was not by his choice. After he was let go, he came back to NAiG making a lot of noise about getting even. That's a fact. TP Yup, the classic LIE from an anonymous coward. I'd have thought you'd have learned you internet threats lesson, nut then off you want of Hermagoras... and got slapped down. And more unsubstantiated bullshit from the cupcake coward. Strange that no one can say what those alleged threats were... Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 24 2009,11:00) How many times has Joe suggested physical confrontation to someone an ID or evolution board? "I don't know, but I may have been among the first.  I guess it must have been about 8-9 years ago on the old OCW forum.  He was his usual self, and a few of us had put him in his place on the issues and we all know that little Joey don't like that. He posted my full name and my home address in a post, and later wrote that he might be passing through, and that "not everyone goes to Vermont to ski". It came up again on NAIG shortly thereafter, and I'd had enough. We only live a few hours apart, and spring break was coming up, so I told him to give me a time and a place, and I'd be there.  He was suddenly too busy to post for about a week, and on the last day of my spring break, when the thread was about to scroll off the board, he makes a post boasting an 'anytime' sort of thing, then later claimed that I had chickened out. He later 'challeneged' Chris Seibold and Robert R., and who knows who else, and I know dates and places had been discussed for at least a couple of people - Chris showed up at the agreed to time and place, Joey didn't, but he later claimed to have been there waiting (but could not accuratley describe anything at the venu) - or was that Blipey?  Or has that happened on more than one occasion? I stopped interacting with him shortly thereafter, but I can only imagine how many times he's done this. He's a classic internet bully/punk - talks tough when he knows there is little chance of actual confrontation, shows himself to be a big talking pussy when his bluff is called. As an aside - he did also write of having had back surgery and to have re-injured himself in Iraq (I guess digging latrines is hard work).  Just mentioning a choice target and an obvious handicap, just in case... :p " LoL! Hearsay is not evidence. And Page is lying. He said he and another asshole were coming down to Stratus but then chickened out. Scotty Liar Page, cowardly asshole. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:30    Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18) Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:31    Erm, parking lot, Joseph. Bwakaaaaaaa -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:32    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:31) Erm, parking lot, Joseph. Bwakaaaaaaa Parking boy Richie- must have been fired from his men's room attendant position. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:34    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:32) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:31) Erm, parking lot, Joseph. Bwakaaaaaaa Parking boy Richie- must have been fired from his men's room attendant position. Meeeeoooow! Fix my fridge. :D -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:35    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:34) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:32) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:31) Erm, parking lot, Joseph. Bwakaaaaaaa Parking boy Richie- must have been fired from his men's room attendant position. Meeeeoooow! Fix my fridge. :D LoL! Your fridge is full of cupcakes! -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:37    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:35) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:34)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:32)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:31) Erm, parking lot, Joseph. Bwakaaaaaaa Parking boy Richie- must have been fired from his men's room attendant position. Meeeeoooow! Fix my fridge. :D LoL! Your fridge is full of cupcakes! Hey! Get outta my fridge. It's not cleared for your girth. Edited by Richardthughes on Oct. 20 2014,18:38 -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:38    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:37) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:35)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:34)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:32)     Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:31) Erm, parking lot, Joseph. Bwakaaaaaaa Parking boy Richie- must have been fired from his men's room attendant position. Meeeeoooow! Fix my fridge. :D LoL! Your fridge is full of cupcakes! Hey! Get outta my fridge. It's not cleared for your girth. What? Your ass is caught in your cupcake-filled fridge? Too much frosting from blipey... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:41    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:38) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:37) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:35)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:34)     Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:32)     Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:31) Erm, parking lot, Joseph. Bwakaaaaaaa Parking boy Richie- must have been fired from his men's room attendant position. Meeeeoooow! Fix my fridge. :D LoL! Your fridge is full of cupcakes! Hey! Get outta my fridge. It's not cleared for your girth. What? Your ass is caught in your cupcake-filled fridge? Too much frosting from blipey... Groan. Have someone else write your 'funnies', chubs. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:42    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:41) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:38) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:37)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:35)     Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:34)     Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:32)       Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:31) Erm, parking lot, Joseph. Bwakaaaaaaa Parking boy Richie- must have been fired from his men's room attendant position. Meeeeoooow! Fix my fridge. :D LoL! Your fridge is full of cupcakes! Hey! Get outta my fridge. It's not cleared for your girth. What? Your ass is caught in your cupcake-filled fridge? Too much frosting from blipey... Groan. Have someone else write your 'funnies', chubs. Nice projection AV boy -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:47    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)   Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)     Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)     Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)       Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:48    Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:47) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)   Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)     Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)     Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)       Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)       Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. Asshole. That comment pertained to Richie's imaginary universe. Grow up already. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,18:58    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:48) Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:47) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)     Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)     Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)       Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)       Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)         Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. Asshole. That comment pertained to Richie's imaginary universe. Grow up already. That doesn't help you. You talk about 'to keep us in place" - not for stellar formation. You are funny / pathetic when cornered, chubs. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,19:15    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:48) Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:47) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)     Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)     Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)       Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)       Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)         Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. Asshole. That comment pertained to Richie's imaginary universe. Grow up already. OK, genius, in Rich's imaginary universe, with its imaginary earth and imaginary moon orbiting an imaginary sun: how strong is the external force and and why is it needed? -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,19:17    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:58) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:48) Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:47)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)     Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)       Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)       Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)         Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)         Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. Asshole. That comment pertained to Richie's imaginary universe. Grow up already. That doesn't help you. You talk about 'to keep us in place" - not for stellar formation. You are funny / pathetic when cornered, chubs. What? That doesn't help YOU, Richie. I didn't say anything about stellar formation, dick-breath. You are always pathetic, cupcake. It's easy- a universe with only one star, our Sun, with the earth/ moon system would have stopped expanding and would have started collapsing. And the collapse wouldn't take that long in such a small universe. The expansion would have stopped due to the lack of mass to keep it going. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,19:24    Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,19:15) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:48) Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:47)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)     Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)       Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)       Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)         Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)         Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. Asshole. That comment pertained to Richie's imaginary universe. Grow up already. OK, genius, in Rich's imaginary universe, with its imaginary earth and imaginary moon orbiting an imaginary sun: how strong is the external force and and why is it needed? Great, when proven to be ignorant of the actual discussion JohnW presses on. A universe that is not expanding will collapse on itself. That's it. And with Richie's universe there isn't any external force. In order for it to work all the laws have to be changed or the designer needs to intervene- just as I have said to Richie. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,19:30    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,19:17) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:58) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:48)   Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:47)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)       Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)       Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)         Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)         Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)           Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. Asshole. That comment pertained to Richie's imaginary universe. Grow up already. That doesn't help you. You talk about 'to keep us in place" - not for stellar formation. You are funny / pathetic when cornered, chubs. What? That doesn't help YOU, Richie. I didn't say anything about stellar formation, dick-breath. You are always pathetic, cupcake. It's easy- a universe with only one star, our Sun, with the earth/ moon system would have stopped expanding and would have started collapsing. And the collapse wouldn't take that long in such a small universe. The expansion would have stopped due to the lack of mass to keep it going. That is preciously stupid. How big is the universe, Joe? How do you know you've hit the end ? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,19:46    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,19:30) That is preciously stupid. How big is the universe, Joe? How do you know you've hit the end ? I think he's saying there is an equilibrium.  The gravitational pull from Joe's enormous lard ass is balance by the colossal force of the gas he expels when he talks out of it. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:02    Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,19:30) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,19:17) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:58)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:48)   Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:47)     Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)       Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)         Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)         Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)           Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)           Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. Asshole. That comment pertained to Richie's imaginary universe. Grow up already. That doesn't help you. You talk about 'to keep us in place" - not for stellar formation. You are funny / pathetic when cornered, chubs. What? That doesn't help YOU, Richie. I didn't say anything about stellar formation, dick-breath. You are always pathetic, cupcake. It's easy- a universe with only one star, our Sun, with the earth/ moon system would have stopped expanding and would have started collapsing. And the collapse wouldn't take that long in such a small universe. The expansion would have stopped due to the lack of mass to keep it going. That is preciously stupid. How big is the universe, Joe? How do you know you've hit the end ? The universe can only be as big as the mass it contains. That means your universe wouldn't be much bigger than the system it contains. Talk about preciously stupid and Richie cupcake responds. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:03    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Oct. 20 2014,19:46) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,19:30) That is preciously stupid. How big is the universe, Joe? How do you know you've hit the end ? I think he's saying there is an equilibrium.  The gravitational pull from Joe's enormous lard ass is balance by the colossal force of the gas he expels when he talks out of it. And another clueless coward chimes in. What's up Timmah? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:05    Hey joey, tell us about the imaginary universe where the koran character allah lives and designs-creates universes like ours. You believe that it's the same imaginary universe where the bible characters yhwh, jesus, and the holy-ghost live, right? Is heaven the name of that imaginary universe? Fill us in on all of the details, including what happens to all of the alleged 72 virgins per man after they're not virgins anymore. Are they dumped in a landfill, or fed to hungry demons, or sent to burn in hell, or forced into prostitution on various planets in various universes, or chopped up and recycled into fresh virgins, or what? Oh, and do those virgins ever get pregnant and have babies after being raped by the men or do allah, yhwh, jesus, and holy-ghost prevent that? -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:08    Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 20 2014,20:05) Hey joey, tell us about the imaginary universe where the koran character allah lives and designs-creates universes like ours. You believe that it's the same imaginary universe where the bible characters yhwh, jesus, and the holy-ghost live, right? Is heaven the name of that imaginary universe? Fill us in on all of the details, including what happens to all of the alleged 72 virgins per man after they're not virgins anymore. Are they dumped in a landfill, or fed to hungry demons, or sent to burn in hell, or forced into prostitution on various planets in various universes, or chopped up and recycled into fresh virgins, or what? Oh, and do those virgins ever get pregnant and have babies after being raped by the men or do allah, yhwh, jesus, and holy-ghost prevent that? Hey dick-breath- why don't you tell us about your imaginary brain and how you fit yourself into a bath tub so that you have a better chance at sucking your own little clit-like pee-pee. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:08    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:02) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,19:30) Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,19:17)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,18:58)   Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:48)     Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:47)     Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,16:30)         Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,18:05)         Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,15:18)           Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 20 2014,17:04)           Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,14:40)             Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,16:24) FTR, FattyOnPhysics: “For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place. Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask. ” and then reaffirmed with “Yup and no one can prove otherwise” on your blog. You also said: “What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl? You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.” and reaffirmed “I stand by that also” The external pull is expansion. It's as if you are proud of your ignorance. What part of GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r is incorrect, Joe? I don't understand- are you saying expansion is not keeping the universe from collapsing on itself? Or are you just an ass? I'm saying planetary orbits are stable regardless of any expansion*, caekboy.  You claimed they're not, and that without expansion Earth would fall into the sun.  Let's see your evidence.  You could start with showing what's wrong with GMm / r^2 = mv^2 / r . *Utterly negligible at solar-system scales anyway.  There's a reason the Hubble-constant is usually expressed per megaparsec. So a universal collapse would not effect our solar system. Are you really that fucking ignorant? And no, I never made the claim you ascribe to me. My claim pertained to Richie's imaginary universe under the assumption it played by the same rules ours does. So grow up fuck-breath Here you go, Joe.  I've helped.   Just to make sure you understand, because, to be honest, understanding isn't your strength: the words in dark letters like this are the claim which you're now denying having made. If you're willing to accept that it's not true that Earth would fall into the Sun without an external pull, that's fine.  You will have learned something (Feels good, doesn't it?  Maybe you should try it again one day) and I will have one less thing to laugh at. Asshole. That comment pertained to Richie's imaginary universe. Grow up already. That doesn't help you. You talk about 'to keep us in place" - not for stellar formation. You are funny / pathetic when cornered, chubs. What? That doesn't help YOU, Richie. I didn't say anything about stellar formation, dick-breath. You are always pathetic, cupcake. It's easy- a universe with only one star, our Sun, with the earth/ moon system would have stopped expanding and would have started collapsing. And the collapse wouldn't take that long in such a small universe. The expansion would have stopped due to the lack of mass to keep it going. That is preciously stupid. How big is the universe, Joe? How do you know you've hit the end ? The universe can only be as big as the mass it contains. That means your universe wouldn't be much bigger than the system it contains. Talk about preciously stupid and Richie cupcake responds. So, if we have a single star with a single planet (or a planet with a satellite, it matters not) in orbit around it, what causes it to collapse, Joe?  Unicorns?  Magic ticks?  Caek? -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:31    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,20:02) The universe can only be as big as the mass it contains. That means your universe wouldn't be much bigger than the system it contains. Talk about preciously stupid and Richie cupcake responds. Universes are measured in mass! The Tard that keeps on giving. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:48    JoeCosmology: Quote OK- for a one star with one planet/ moon system to work, empty space will have to some factor larger than the system- ie relativity. Put the Sun in the space of say the orbit of Mars and all of a sudden its mass overwhelms that relatively small area which would cause a “black hole effect”, meaning everything would fall into it -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:49    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:08) Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 20 2014,20:05) Hey joey, tell us about the imaginary universe where the koran character allah lives and designs-creates universes like ours. You believe that it's the same imaginary universe where the bible characters yhwh, jesus, and the holy-ghost live, right? Is heaven the name of that imaginary universe? Fill us in on all of the details, including what happens to all of the alleged 72 virgins per man after they're not virgins anymore. Are they dumped in a landfill, or fed to hungry demons, or sent to burn in hell, or forced into prostitution on various planets in various universes, or chopped up and recycled into fresh virgins, or what? Oh, and do those virgins ever get pregnant and have babies after being raped by the men or do allah, yhwh, jesus, and holy-ghost prevent that? Hey dick-breath- why don't you tell us about your imaginary brain and how you fit yourself into a bath tub so that you have a better chance at sucking your own little clit-like pee-pee. What's the matter, joey, are you ashamed to tell us about the imaginary universe where allah, yhwh, jesus, and the holy-ghost live? Does mohammed the alleged prophet live there too? By the way, have you ever thought of writing and publishing a book about "decency"? It would surely be a best seller. Maybe some commenters here will give you some ideas for the book title, such as 'How to be decent, you assface dickfuck faggot!', or 'Be a decent person by killing all infidels!'. or 'Raping animals and little boys and girls is the decent thing to do!', or 'Stoning, the divine tradition of decency!'. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,20:58    Lest we forget: Quote Actually, he mentioned that 'not everyone drives through (my town) to go skiing.'  This was after he had oh-so-cleverly put my address in his signature line.  It was as if he thought those who he threatened would just retract all of our statements and declare his every utterance truth and factual because we would be all a-scared of him or something.   Also, while Robert Rapier was involved in the discussions at the time, and Joe had 'challenged' him to come say things to his face and such, he did not contact Joe's employer, and I do not know who did.  Generally, I am against such activities (as I have actually had creationists threaten to contact my colleagues and my employer not because I threatened them - I have never done anything like that - but because I showed them to be wrong, ignorant, etc.), but in Joe's case, I think the fact that he was making threats from his place of work (he was also posting as two people at the time, claiming that his 'alter ego' was a coworker, one 'Cool Hand Luke', who also tried to intimidate people he disagreed with) to multiple people warranted some sort of intervention.  It wasn't as if tempers flared and one discussant writes 'I'll kick you ass!", he was actively stalking people, posting personal information about them on the net, and making implicit threats, all because he could not handle the fact that he was (and still is) too underinformed on the issues he tried to discuss and was put in is place. He also tried to 'arrange' meetings between himself and one 'Skeptic boy' and I at least 2 other people if I remember correctly, and each time, he mysteriously stopped posting for several days.  On one occasion, he actually claimed to have been at the place that where one of these 'meetings' was to take place, but he was unable to describe the place. He is s typical bully.  A coward at heart. By the way - just in case anyone might need such information, he let it slip one time that he had had surgery on his lower back... -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,21:48    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 20 2014,18:25) Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 20 2014,18:13) Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 20 2014,17:53) http://pro-science.blogspot.com/2007.......-g.html If only he could actually state the evidence that he's claimed to have "already done" so many times. Comon Joey, instead of saying, why not just do it. Surely, by now, the internet is full of dozens of places you've done things like define the specifications of specific strings of text and defined the recipe to build an animal... i mean a cake or whatever it is that you think is intelligently built... or whatever it is that you think, since you're too chicken to come right out and say it. I'm willing to give you another guest post Joey if you will write down exactly what you think, the evidence for it, and an example of a determination of specification for any real thing. The only requirement is that will be what we hold you to until you make a good case for changing your mind. I don't even know why I bother. You're too chicken to take a stand on a position that you can't backpedal or weasel word your way out of. You can post it here and I'll copy it over. Which I won't ever have to worry about doing. And please don't think that three sentences will work, especially when the first contradicts the last. And don't make this about evolution or anything else. This time, it's purely about you Joey. The offer stands. Shame you aren't man enough to step up to it. Fuck you Kevin- as I have told you many times I need to see what you consider to be the evidence for evolutionism. That way you can't keep backpedaling when I produce the evidence for ID. I did that on your blog and like the ignorant coward you are you whines" That is not evidence!" My blog has many posts devoted to supporting ID. You are more than welcome to come over and discuss it. But you won't because you are a chicken-shit little punk who needs the support of a mob. Why does the evidence for evolution have any effect on the evidence for ID? Evidence is evidence. Either it exists for ID or it doesn't. Since you try to change the channel to evolution EVERY SINGLE TIME someone asks you for evidence of ID, then I'm betting is doesn't. We both know I'm right, you're just to pathetic to admit it. Your blog has no evidence Joe. You had to edit a post from nearly 4 years ago to support a claim that you made and Rich called you on. I've got the screen shots to prove it. You edited a post because the EVIDENCE showed you were wrong. Is this how you convince people that your "evidence" exists? OK, let's play pretend. Let's say that you meet someone who has never had a biology course, never had a theology course, never had any of that. However, they have had math, statistics, and analysis courses. So you can't bullshit them. Write up how you would convince them. Assume that they will look up any claims you make to see if you are accurate (much like I did that liar Meyer). I know you won't do it. You can't even provide a link to a single post with EVIDENCE. You're best evidence of being able to specify something was the dictionary definition of aardvark. And that was utterly destroyed. Anyway, I'm curious as to what excuse you'll come up with this time. I'm betting it will be a combination of cursing, threats, and "I already did that" with a total refusal to show a link. And Joey, the only people who read your blog are people from here who laugh at you. I won't step foot in your cess pit because you have shown to edit posts well after the fact to say something new. And, honestly, you're a jerk. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2014,23:02    Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 21 2014,02:02) The universe can only be as big as the mass it contains. That means your universe wouldn't be much bigger than the system it contains. How big would a 1kg universe be, Joe?

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