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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:09   

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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

"Ice came first". So you're saying that when H20 is created, it is / was as a solid.

This will be fun.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:09   

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Hey joey, you're not going to run away to the UD sanctuary before answering my questions, are you? Here they are in case you missed them:

In regard to peacocks, who or what did the artificial selection, when and how did the who or what do the artificial selection, what extraordinarily large set of a wide variety of intelligently designed birds are you referring to, what evidence can you provide that the birds were intelligently designed, and who or what intelligently designed the birds?

If you had relevant questions I would pay attention. But all you have is ignorant spewage- cowardly ignorant spewage at that.

And the sad part is if you could only ante up and support evolutionism and materialism you wouldn't have to worry about what I say. Yet you can't and so what I say bothers you. Cool...

Hey joey, you responded just like I thought you would, with your usual chicken-shit evasion of very relevant questions. Thanks for the laughs, caek-boy.

LoL! Typical cowardly TWiT

You're the one who's running away from answering very relevant questions that pertain to what you said about peacocks, joey.

Only ignorant asswipes say those are relevant. And as I said you wouldn't have to worry about it if you could just find some supporting evidence for unguided evolution producing peacocks. Unfortunately you can't even get beyond the given prokaryotes.

Sad, really

Oh come on, joey, you can do worse than that. There isn't even a "fuck you" or an "evotard" in your evasive excrement. It's Friday, joey, go ahead and melt down in a big way.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:10   

Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

That means no one has observed that natural selection is the only process to produce adaptations. Richie choked...

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:10   

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So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

     
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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

6:09 AM, September 30, 2014
Blogger Jeffrey Shallit said...
Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

Have you read Futuyma, Joe?

Yes, I have. He is all about bald declarations like "Natural selection is the only process known to produce adaptations"

Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi........+to+you

Idiot

How do you know it was natural selection?

dickfuck

Are you really going to go for the (you didn't see the point mutations happen) defense, Joe?

That's sad.

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Oct. 20 2014,10:05

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:10   

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Joe(water <> Ice)

 
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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

"Ice came first". So you're saying that when H20 is created, it is / was as a solid.

This will be fun.

When was H2O created?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:11   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 17 2014,13:10)
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So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

     
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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

6:09 AM, September 30, 2014
Blogger Jeffrey Shallit said...
Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

Have you read Futuyma, Joe?

Yes, I have. He is all about bald declarations like "Natural selection is the only process known to produce adaptations"

Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

[URL=http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-0691.2006.01343.x/abstract;jsessionid=88CB70CC487C897AFE65955A89CCF15D.f04t01?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+be+disrupted+on+the+18th+October+from+10%3A00+BST+%2805%3A00+EDT%29+for+essential+maintenance+for+approximately+two+hours+as+we+make+upgrades+to+improve+ou



r+services+to+you]http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi....+to+you[/URL]

Idiot

How do you know it was natural selection?

dickfuck

Are you really going to go for the (you didn't see the point mutations happen) defense, Joe?

That's sad.

LoL! Richie the ignorant fuck still doesn't know what is being debated.

Typical troll

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:14   

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So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

       
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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

6:09 AM, September 30, 2014
Blogger Jeffrey Shallit said...
Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

Have you read Futuyma, Joe?

Yes, I have. He is all about bald declarations like "Natural selection is the only process known to produce adaptations"

Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

[URL=http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-0691.2006.01343.x/abstract;jsessionid=88CB70CC487C897AFE65955A89CCF15D.f04t01?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+be+disrupted+on+the+18th+October+from+10%3A00+BST+%2805%3A00+EDT%29+for+essential+maintenance+for+approximately+two+hours+as+we+make+upgrades+to+improve+ou




r+services+to+you]http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi....+to+you[/URL]

Idiot

How do you know it was natural selection?

dickfuck

Are you really going to go for the (you didn't see the point mutations happen) defense, Joe?

That's sad.

LoL! Richie the ignorant fuck still doesn't know what is being debated.

Typical troll

Oh Joe has been reading the UD propaganda press. People who disagree = troll. So Joe your criteria for something to be plausible is seeing all steps of it happen in person. This should bode well for ID...

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:15   

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If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

"Ice came first". So you're saying that when H20 is created, it is / was as a solid.

This will be fun.

When was H2O created?

That a wonderfully stupid question.Please expand on it!

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:20   

And as you're ronrey, what are your thoughts on Sam Harris saying that "Islam is the mother load of bad ideas"?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:26   

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If hail is made out of ice and ice came from ice via water, then hail is made out of ice.

If anyone needs a FSTDT sig:

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:32   

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If hail is made out of ice and ice came from ice via water, then hail is made out of ice.

If anyone needs a FSTDT sig:

dat tautology

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:41   

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Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

That means no one has observed that natural selection is the only process to produce adaptations. Richie choked...

Please provide peer-reviewed and evidence supported examples of adaptation that has NOT come from natural selection.

I demand that you use your observations only, but I'm afraid that the LSD trips would only confuse things.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:44   

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LoL! Sequence 1 does not conform to any specification. It definitely isn't text.

Hmmm. Show your work. How many specifications are there?

Whoops.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,19:01   

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J oe thinks Jeff Shallit is confused:

J Shallit said,
     
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String #2 can be said to “conform” to many, many different specifications: English text, English text written by Shakespeare, messages of length less than 545, and so forth. But the same can be said for string #1


Joe says,

     
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Except of course that string #1 does not conform to English text. It does not conform to English text written by Shakespeare, it’s creator has said it isn’t a message and so forth.


The relevant point, and what Jeff was saying, is that string 1 conforms to many specifications. For example, 'text generated by someone trying to generate a random string by carelessly thumping at a QWERTY keyboard'.

It is telling that Joe refers to revelation as indication of design,  Allah be praised.

LoL! Sequence 1 does not conform to any specification. It definitely isn't text.

I thought that was a non sequitur, until I remembered that CSI in Joeland stands for Caek Synthesising Instructions.

How do you know it isn't text? You don't know all languages in the universe, so it is only because you know the origin. It's almost like presuppositional apologetics,  this ID business. I wonder why that is.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,22:22   

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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

"Ice came first". So you're saying that when H20 is created, it is / was as a solid.

This will be fun.

When was H2O created?

That a wonderfully stupid question.Please expand on it!

water comes from H2Oxygen but ice comes from h2zero(degrees Celsius)

and besides water is only found (ie, seen directly with human eyes) on one planet while ice is found on planets AND IN SPACE!
an ice pick is used on ice NOT water
people water ski on water NOT ice
and cross-country ski on ice pellets called snow NOT water
eskimos live on ice NOT water
therefore, by dint of the everyday-people, LNC-compliant, non-blasphemous, FIASCO/I-observant power of common sense, water <> ice.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,00:55   

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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

"Ice came first". So you're saying that when H20 is created, it is / was as a solid.

This will be fun.

I, or rather my car, create liquid H2O every day. No ice in the exhaust yet.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,08:23   

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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

"Ice came first". So you're saying that when H20 is created, it is / was as a solid.

This will be fun.

When was H2O created?

Well, since oxygen is a common product even in miniscule stars like ours (and obviously hydrogen is primoridal, being nothing more than a single proton)... first first appeared in the earliest stars in the universe.

Due to the heat, that very first molecule probably didn't stay together very long.  But it could have been ejected (since oxygen collects in the atmosphere of stars) into space and then shed heat enough to reach the temperature that would cause it to be "ice"... and much colder very quickly.

But that's an interesting discussion question. Since water ice has a unique structure that occurs when several water molecules form that structure at low temperatures... can one molecule be "ice".

Then we have to get into the various kinds of water ice... which I notice Joe hasn't ever brought up. Of course, most of those depend on high pressure interactions, so it may be moot for that first molecule.

But, Joey, I think what you're asking is "WHERE YOU THERE?"

At which point, all we can do is shake our heads and snicker.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,15:39   

"The ice was here, the ice was there, the ice was all around..."

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,17:02   

Looks like teh_ronrey_cycle has reset.

Silly Joe.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,18:12   

The ice goes in, ice goes out.  Never a miscommunication.  You can't explain that.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,20:01   

Hey, Joe, why doesn't Behe or what's his name (Wells) apply?

Oh yeah, they don't think that evolution can do anything. Looks like a major corporation disagrees with them.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,22:03   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 18 2014,15:02)
Looks like teh_ronrey_cycle has reset.

Silly Joe.

Yep, he calls us cowards and then runs away as usual.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2014,22:13   

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Hey, Joe, why doesn't Behe or what's his name (Wells) apply?

Oh yeah, they don't think that evolution can do anything. Looks like a major corporation disagrees with them.

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Applicants are required to have a background in experimental evolution, quantitative microbial genetics, population microbial genetics, or a related discipline with direct relevance to adaptive laboratory evolution or evolutionary engineering. - See more at: [URL=http://careers.dupont.com/jobsearch/posting.php?id=PhDMicroBio2015#sthash.SPfEMhxu.dpuf

This is where he switches to "ID is not anti-evolution."  Haven't had that one in a while.  

If we're really lucky, we'll get "ID is not anti-evolution, asshole."

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,10:05   

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Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

That means no one has observed that natural selection is the only process to produce adaptations. Richie choked...

Please provide peer-reviewed and evidence supported examples of adaptation that has NOT come from natural selection.

I demand that you use your observations only, but I'm afraid that the LSD trips would only confuse things.

Please provide peer-reviewed and evidence supported examples of adaptation that has come from natural selection.

Dumbass

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,10:08   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 18 2014,20:01)
Hey, Joe, why doesn't Behe or what's his name (Wells) apply?

Oh yeah, they don't think that evolution can do anything. Looks like a major corporation disagrees with them.

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Applicants are required to have a background in experimental evolution, quantitative microbial genetics, population microbial genetics, or a related discipline with direct relevance to adaptive laboratory evolution or evolutionary engineering. - See more at: [URL=http://careers.dupont.com/jobsearch/posting.php?id=PhDMicroBio2015#sthash.SPfEMhxu.dpuf

Kevin, you are obviously a reject. Neither Behe nor Wells say that evolution can't do anything.

As I have told you and supported- evolution is not being debated. It isn't my fault you are such a simpleton that you cannot grasp that fact.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,10:09   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 17 2014,13:15)
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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

"Ice came first". So you're saying that when H20 is created, it is / was as a solid.

This will be fun.

When was H2O created?

That a wonderfully stupid question.Please expand on it!

Richie, you are the asswipe who brought it up. That means it is up to you to expand on it.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,10:11   

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Hey, Joe, why doesn't Behe or what's his name (Wells) apply?

Oh yeah, they don't think that evolution can do anything. Looks like a major corporation disagrees with them.

 
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This is where he switches to "ID is not anti-evolution."  Haven't had that one in a while.  

If we're really lucky, we'll get "ID is not anti-evolution, asshole."

What a fucking asshole- ID has never been anti-evolution- never. ID is anti blind watchmaker evolution having sole dominion over evolution.

You fuckers are proud to be willfully ignorant assholes.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,10:13   

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Joe(water <> Ice)

   
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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

"Ice came first". So you're saying that when H20 is created, it is / was as a solid.

This will be fun.

When was H2O created?

Well, since oxygen is a common product even in miniscule stars like ours (and obviously hydrogen is primoridal, being nothing more than a single proton)... first first appeared in the earliest stars in the universe.

Due to the heat, that very first molecule probably didn't stay together very long.  But it could have been ejected (since oxygen collects in the atmosphere of stars) into space and then shed heat enough to reach the temperature that would cause it to be "ice"... and much colder very quickly.

But that's an interesting discussion question. Since water ice has a unique structure that occurs when several water molecules form that structure at low temperatures... can one molecule be "ice".

Then we have to get into the various kinds of water ice... which I notice Joe hasn't ever brought up. Of course, most of those depend on high pressure interactions, so it may be moot for that first molecule.

But, Joey, I think what you're asking is "WHERE YOU THERE?"

At which point, all we can do is shake our heads and snicker.

But materialism cannot account for stars. BTW one molecule cannot be ice. It cannot be water, either. But that you think one molecule can be ice pretty much proves that you are an ignorant fuck.

Nice job

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,10:15   

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So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

       
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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

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Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

Have you read Futuyma, Joe?

Yes, I have. He is all about bald declarations like "Natural selection is the only process known to produce adaptations"

Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

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Idiot

How do you know it was natural selection?

dickfuck

Are you really going to go for the (you didn't see the point mutations happen) defense, Joe?

That's sad.

LoL! Richie the ignorant fuck still doesn't know what is being debated.

Typical troll

Oh Joe has been reading the UD propaganda press. People who disagree = troll. So Joe your criteria for something to be plausible is seeing all steps of it happen in person. This should bode well for ID...

Wrong again. I don't care about disagreements. However you have proven to be a troll.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



Posts: 12011
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2014,10:17   

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LoL! Sequence 1 does not conform to any specification. It definitely isn't text.

Hmmm. Show your work. How many specifications are there?

Whoops.

You show your work- what does it specify? What is the text?

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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