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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 11 2014,21:58   

J oe thinks Jeff Shallit is confused:

J Shallit said,
 
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String #2 can be said to “conform” to many, many different specifications: English text, English text written by Shakespeare, messages of length less than 545, and so forth. But the same can be said for string #1


Joe says,

 
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Except of course that string #1 does not conform to English text. It does not conform to English text written by Shakespeare, it’s creator has said it isn’t a message and so forth.


The relevant point, and what Jeff was saying, is that string 1 conforms to many specifications. For example, 'text generated by someone trying to generate a random string by carelessly thumping at a QWERTY keyboard'.

It is telling that Joe refers to revelation as indication of design,  Allah be praised.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2014,02:41   

Quote (Driver @ Oct. 12 2014,03:58)
<a href="goo.gl/IHxoTI" target="_blank"> Joe thinks Jeff Shallit is confused:</a>
J Shallit said,
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String #2 can be said to “conform” to many, many different specifications: English text, English text written by Shakespeare, messages of length less than 545, and so forth. But the same can be said for string #1


Joe says,

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Except of course that string #1 does not conform to English text. It does not conform to English text written by Shakespeare, it’s creator has said it isn’t a message and so forth.


The relevant point, and what Jeff was saying, is that string 1 conforms to many specifications. For example, 'text generated by someone trying to generate a random string by carelessly thumping at a QWERTY keyboard'.

It is telling that Joe refers to revelation as indication of design,  Allah be praised.

link leads to 404

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2014,06:10   

Quote (Driver @ Oct. 12 2014,02:58)
Joe thinks Jeff Shallit is confused:

J Shallit said,
   
Quote
String #2 can be said to “conform” to many, many different specifications: English text, English text written by Shakespeare, messages of length less than 545, and so forth. But the same can be said for string #1


Joe says,

   
Quote
Except of course that string #1 does not conform to English text. It does not conform to English text written by Shakespeare, it’s creator has said it isn’t a message and so forth.


The relevant point, and what Jeff was saying, is that string 1 conforms to many specifications. For example, 'text generated by someone trying to generate a random string by carelessly thumping at a QWERTY keyboard'.

It is telling that Joe refers to revelation as indication of design,  Allah be praised.

Link fixed.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2014,04:11   

In this thread at UD, http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....518968, joey g said:



Hey joey, who or what did the artificial selection, when and how did the who or what do the artificial selection, what extraordinarily large set of a wide variety of intelligently designed birds are you referring to, what evidence can you provide that the birds were intelligently designed, and who or what intelligently designed the birds?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2014,21:42   

But will you now get an artificial answer...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2014,21:44   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 14 2014,19:42)
But will you now get an artificial answer...

You won't get an intelligently designed one.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2014,23:08   

Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 14 2014,21:44)
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 14 2014,19:42)
But will you now get an artificial answer...

You won't get an intelligently designed one.

But there will be caek...unless the ticks eat it  ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 15 2014,21:49   

Quote (Timothy McDougald @ Oct. 15 2014,07:08)
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 14 2014,21:44)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 14 2014,19:42)
But will you now get an artificial answer...

You won't get an intelligently designed one.

But there will be caek...unless the ticks eat it  ;)

Could Joe afford Dear caek?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,11:34   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 12 2014,19:41)
Joe G.:

 
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BTW my post refutes your claims. I can see that you wouldn't think that is informative but to people without an agenda it is very informative.


For one, I claimed Joe G. was wrong about fitness functions in evolutionary computation. I provided an example demonstrating there was no selection going on in it. I provided quotes from Joe's own cited reference that said the same thing. Joe didn't address that, nor does anything he's posted anywhere "refute" that.

I think direct demonstrations of Joe's utter ignorance of the topic are informative.

Wes, GAs are not an example of Darwinian evolution. They do not simulate natural selection. That is a claim that stands and nothing you can say will ever change that fact.

And whether or not I conflated the fitness function, which by your writing is a selection process, with whatever selection process the program uses- roulette wheel or whatever- doers not change the fact that GAs are evidence for evolution by intelligent design.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,11:36   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 12 2014,12:22)
Quote (Joe G @ Sep. 12 2014,12:00)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 12 2014,11:38)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Sep. 12 2014,11:30)
And Kevin- there are 2 bits of information per nucleotide. That is because there are 4 possible nucleotides for DNA. 4 = 2^2 = 2 bits per nucleotide.

With RNA there are also 4 possible nucleotides which means they also represent 2 bits.

If all you're talking about is nucleotides, then that's true. But don't pretend that is all that needs to be talked about.

Methylation of a nucleotide adds a bit. Of course, then we get into the hundred odd other chemical changes that can occur to nucleotides. We need a bit for each of those as well.

So, just talking about possible chemical changes to nucleotides, you need well over 100 bits.

But you know that since you must have read my post on it. The fact that you choose to ignore all the things that are inconvenient for you shows just how meaningless you are to ID and how meaningless ID is to reality.

Let's be very, very clear. The information content of DNA is NOT restricted to the nucleotide sequence ALONE. Any attempt to describe it as such is simply wrong.

Honestly, considering every factor that could affect the information in a chunk of DNA, I'd be shocked if a single nucleotide could be represented (properly) by less than a kilobit.

 
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Methylation of a nucleotide adds a bit.


Why? Does it change the genetic code? Do you understand Crick's definition of biological information?

Information means here the precise determination of sequence, either of bases in the nucleic acid or on amino acid residues in the protein.- Sir Francis Crick

Fine, but that's not enough information to build the organism now is it?

So, when ID people talk about information, they are not talking about organisms at all.

Thanks for that Joe.

Well done.

Kevin, you moron. If that isn't enough information to build an organism then your position just got flushed down the shitter.

When IDists talk about information they are using it in the sense that Crick did.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,11:41   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 12 2014,12:30)
Quote (Joe G @ Sep. 12 2014,12:09)
I take the side that the theory of evolution posits the processes are blind, mindless and undirected, ie accumulating genetic accidents.


 
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Is that your definition of blind-watchmaker evolution? yes or no?


That is the definition gleaned from the literature of evolutionary textbooks and evolutionary biologists. And if you knew anything you would know that.



As predicted, total refusal to answer the question.

note my use of the word "YOUR"

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So all we have to do is show that this happens and then we're done. Fine, done. Lenski has done it. I know what you're going to say about Lenski and you're STILL wrong about that.


LoL! Lenski didn't show natural selection was capable of anything. If Lenski is the best you have then the game is over and you lost.



And yet, that strain took over... without humans interfering.

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And I have addressed Darwinian evolution on a chip:

For one RNAs do not reproduce. The RNAs in question were reproduced artificially. That is not Darwinian.



So, now you're saying that GAs aren't Darwinian either, because they don't reproduce? You're weird man.

And the RNAs were copied by a reverse transcriptase and T7 RNA polymerase.

How is that artificial? Oh yeah, in your world, anything in a lab is designed.

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The final evolved enzyme contained a set of 11 mutations that conferred a 90-fold improvement in substrate utilization, coinciding with the applied selective pressure.

Wait, Darwinian evolution isn't like that- it doesn't respond to the environment.

So yes, change did happen but was it Darwinian? And why does all change have to be Darwinian evolution? Why are biologists so full of Darwin that they can't understand that there can be evolution without Darwin/ neo-darwinism?


What are you on about. Of course scientists think about other forms of evolution. Epigenetics for example.

Whatever, it's almost as though you have a clue. Shame you have no idea what's going on.
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It's as if these guys have bought the strawman of the fixity of species, including RNAs.

And in the end the RNA ligase was still an RNA ligase, albeit an improved RNA ligase wrt that artificial environment.

Ah, the classic JoeG dodge, "But it's still a ligase."

Yes it was. But this discussion wasn't and has never been about even speciation.

Read the definition again Joe. It's the one YOU stated on your blog, but now you are to chicken to admit to.

Kevin, That is THE definition of blind watchmaker evolution. Notice that it doesn't produce any testable hypotheses.

Yes, Lenski had a strain take over. It fits in perfectly with Dr Spetner's non-random evolutionary hypothesis.

GAs are not Darwinian because they are directed towards some goal.

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So yes, change did happen but was it Darwinian? And why does all change have to be Darwinian evolution?


It doesn't and most likely isn't. That is the whole point of the debate you ignorant ass.

You say you have been at this for over 15 years and you still have no idea what your opponents say. You have to be one willfully ignorant asshole.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,11:43   

Quote (Driver @ Oct. 11 2014,21:58)
J oe thinks Jeff Shallit is confused:

J Shallit said,
   
Quote
String #2 can be said to “conform” to many, many different specifications: English text, English text written by Shakespeare, messages of length less than 545, and so forth. But the same can be said for string #1


Joe says,

   
Quote
Except of course that string #1 does not conform to English text. It does not conform to English text written by Shakespeare, it’s creator has said it isn’t a message and so forth.


The relevant point, and what Jeff was saying, is that string 1 conforms to many specifications. For example, 'text generated by someone trying to generate a random string by carelessly thumping at a QWERTY keyboard'.

It is telling that Joe refers to revelation as indication of design,  Allah be praised.

LoL! Sequence 1 does not conform to any specification. It definitely isn't text.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:26   

Hey joey, you're not going to run away to the UD sanctuary before answering my questions, are you? Here they are in case you missed them:

In regard to peacocks, who or what did the artificial selection, when and how did the who or what do the artificial selection, what extraordinarily large set of a wide variety of intelligently designed birds are you referring to, what evidence can you provide that the birds were intelligently designed, and who or what intelligently designed the birds?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:30   

Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:26)
Hey joey, you're not going to run away to the UD sanctuary before answering my questions, are you? Here they are in case you missed them:

In regard to peacocks, who or what did the artificial selection, when and how did the who or what do the artificial selection, what extraordinarily large set of a wide variety of intelligently designed birds are you referring to, what evidence can you provide that the birds were intelligently designed, and who or what intelligently designed the birds?

If you had relevant questions I would pay attention. But all you have is ignorant spewage- cowardly ignorant spewage at that.

And the sad part is if you could only ante up and support evolutionism and materialism you wouldn't have to worry about what I say. Yet you can't and so what I say bothers you. Cool...

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:30   

Joey must be in moderation at all his usual haunts. How does it feel to be moderated by your own side?

Notice that I don't mention your arguments, claims, or anything else.

There's no point. You are not an authority on evolution, ID, computers, genetic algorithms, science, biology, theology, information, mathematics, cladistics, set-theory, genetics, microbiology, epigenetics, or any subset of these or superset containing any of these (and much, much more).

When I want the opinion of an ignorant lunatic, I'll come to you first, I promise. Until then, don't call us... we'll call you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:31   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 30 2014,12:07)
So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

6:09 AM, September 30, 2014
Blogger Jeffrey Shallit said...
Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:38   

Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,10:30)
Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:26)
Hey joey, you're not going to run away to the UD sanctuary before answering my questions, are you? Here they are in case you missed them:

In regard to peacocks, who or what did the artificial selection, when and how did the who or what do the artificial selection, what extraordinarily large set of a wide variety of intelligently designed birds are you referring to, what evidence can you provide that the birds were intelligently designed, and who or what intelligently designed the birds?

If you had relevant questions I would pay attention. But all you have is ignorant spewage- cowardly ignorant spewage at that.

And the sad part is if you could only ante up and support evolutionism and materialism you wouldn't have to worry about what I say. Yet you can't and so what I say bothers you. Cool...

Hey joey, you responded just like I thought you would, with your usual chicken-shit evasion of very relevant questions. Thanks for the laughs, caek-boy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:41   

Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:38)
Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,10:30)
Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:26)
Hey joey, you're not going to run away to the UD sanctuary before answering my questions, are you? Here they are in case you missed them:

In regard to peacocks, who or what did the artificial selection, when and how did the who or what do the artificial selection, what extraordinarily large set of a wide variety of intelligently designed birds are you referring to, what evidence can you provide that the birds were intelligently designed, and who or what intelligently designed the birds?

If you had relevant questions I would pay attention. But all you have is ignorant spewage- cowardly ignorant spewage at that.

And the sad part is if you could only ante up and support evolutionism and materialism you wouldn't have to worry about what I say. Yet you can't and so what I say bothers you. Cool...

Hey joey, you responded just like I thought you would, with your usual chicken-shit evasion of very relevant questions. Thanks for the laughs, caek-boy.

LoL! Typical cowardly TWiT

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:46   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 17 2014,12:30)
Joey must be in moderation at all his usual haunts. How does it feel to be moderated by your own side?

Notice that I don't mention your arguments, claims, or anything else.

There's no point. You are not an authority on

When I want the opinion of an ignorant lunatic, I'll come to you first, I promise. Until then, don't call us... we'll call you.

Kevin is still a cowardly joke- You are not an authority on anything but cowardice, Kevin. You won't mention my arguments because they prove that you are a coward and a punk. No surprise there.

BTW I am not moderated by my own side. How does it feel to be an ignorant asshole?

And I know more about evolution, ID, computers, genetic algorithms, science, biology, theology, information, mathematics, cladistics, set-theory, genetics, microbiology, epigenetics, or any subset of these or superset containing any of these (and much, much more) than you do.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:51   

Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,10:41)
Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:38)
Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,10:30)
 
Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:26)
Hey joey, you're not going to run away to the UD sanctuary before answering my questions, are you? Here they are in case you missed them:

In regard to peacocks, who or what did the artificial selection, when and how did the who or what do the artificial selection, what extraordinarily large set of a wide variety of intelligently designed birds are you referring to, what evidence can you provide that the birds were intelligently designed, and who or what intelligently designed the birds?

If you had relevant questions I would pay attention. But all you have is ignorant spewage- cowardly ignorant spewage at that.

And the sad part is if you could only ante up and support evolutionism and materialism you wouldn't have to worry about what I say. Yet you can't and so what I say bothers you. Cool...

Hey joey, you responded just like I thought you would, with your usual chicken-shit evasion of very relevant questions. Thanks for the laughs, caek-boy.

LoL! Typical cowardly TWiT

You're the one who's running away from answering very relevant questions that pertain to what you said about peacocks, joey.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,12:55   

Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:51)
Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,10:41)
Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:38)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,10:30)
 
Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 17 2014,12:26)
Hey joey, you're not going to run away to the UD sanctuary before answering my questions, are you? Here they are in case you missed them:

In regard to peacocks, who or what did the artificial selection, when and how did the who or what do the artificial selection, what extraordinarily large set of a wide variety of intelligently designed birds are you referring to, what evidence can you provide that the birds were intelligently designed, and who or what intelligently designed the birds?

If you had relevant questions I would pay attention. But all you have is ignorant spewage- cowardly ignorant spewage at that.

And the sad part is if you could only ante up and support evolutionism and materialism you wouldn't have to worry about what I say. Yet you can't and so what I say bothers you. Cool...

Hey joey, you responded just like I thought you would, with your usual chicken-shit evasion of very relevant questions. Thanks for the laughs, caek-boy.

LoL! Typical cowardly TWiT

You're the one who's running away from answering very relevant questions that pertain to what you said about peacocks, joey.

Only ignorant asswipes say those are relevant. And as I said you wouldn't have to worry about it if you could just find some supporting evidence for unguided evolution producing peacocks. Unfortunately you can't even get beyond the given prokaryotes.

Sad, really

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:00   

Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,12:31)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 30 2014,12:07)
So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

 
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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

6:09 AM, September 30, 2014
Blogger Jeffrey Shallit said...
Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

Have you read Futuyma, Joe?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:01   

THE_RONREY kicks in after no one reading his blog for so long.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:04   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 17 2014,13:00)
Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,12:31)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 30 2014,12:07)
So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

 
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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

6:09 AM, September 30, 2014
Blogger Jeffrey Shallit said...
Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

Have you read Futuyma, Joe?

Yes, I have. He is all about bald declarations like "Natural selection is the only process known to produce adaptations"

Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:05   

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THE_RONREY kicks in after no one reading his blog for so long.

People are reading my blog. And YOU keep telling me to post here. So what the fuck is your cowardly problem?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:05   

Joe(water <> Ice)

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If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:06   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 17 2014,13:05)
Joe(water <> Ice)

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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

I was waiting for that one- Ice came first

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:07   

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Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 30 2014,12:07)
So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

   
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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

6:09 AM, September 30, 2014
Blogger Jeffrey Shallit said...
Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

Have you read Futuyma, Joe?

Yes, I have. He is all about bald declarations like "Natural selection is the only process known to produce adaptations"

Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi....+to+you

Idiot

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:07   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 17 2014,13:05)
Joe(water <> Ice)

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JoeOctober 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
If castles are made out of rocks and rocks are made out of sand (and other sediments), then wouldn’t castles be made out of sand?

If hail is made out of ice and ice came from ice via water, then hail is made out of ice.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2014,13:08   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 17 2014,13:07)
Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,13:04)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 17 2014,13:00)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 17 2014,12:31)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 30 2014,12:07)
So Ronrey on Jeff Shallit's blog:

     
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Blogger Joe G said...
Umm What are YOU waiting for Jeffrey? Why can't YOU face any of the challenges of materialism and evolutionism? Why can't you even produce a model nor testable hypotheses for your positions' claims?

6:09 AM, September 30, 2014
Blogger Jeffrey Shallit said...
Joe, I can't remedy your ignorance - only you can do that. I suggest picking up a textbook on evolutionary biology, such as Futuyma. The evidence you claim you want can be found there.

But we already know you are not really interested in that.

6:32 AM, September 30, 2014

So Richie thinks that Jeff's bluff proves something? Really, Richie?

Have you read Futuyma, Joe?

Yes, I have. He is all about bald declarations like "Natural selection is the only process known to produce adaptations"

Unfortunately no one has ever observed such a thing.

link

Idiot

How do you know it was natural selection?

dickfuck

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Oct. 20 2014,10:04

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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