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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 19 2014,14:10   

KF:

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kairosfocusSeptember 19, 2014 at 12:34 pm
PPPS: ES, we have been through the definitionitis game over and over over the years. Let’s just say, there is a reason why objectors to design thought at UD seldom resort to definition derby these days.


PPPS!
the reasons are of course they've been banned or their posts don't make it through.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2014,21:38   

Barry's latest
   
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How to Get Banned From UD: Be a Troll

...is a must read a) to marvel at the sheer hypocrisy on display if you have any memory of the history of banninations at UD, and b) by the spirited defence by william spearshake, aka Acartia_bogart along with the animus on display by UD regulars in the comments.
UD link

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We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.”
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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2014,23:18   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Sep. 22 2014,21:38)
Barry's latest
     
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How to Get Banned From UD: Be a Troll

...is a must read a) to marvel at the sheer hypocrisy on display if you have any memory of the history of banninations at UD, and b) by the spirited defence by william spearshake, aka Acartia_bogart along with the animus on display by UD regulars in the comments.
UD link

Someone should grab a screenshot of the comments before they all disappear.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2014,23:40   

Uncommon Descent was never a likely place to find civil, productive conversations, but Arrington has made a proper mess of it. It's like watching a dive bar slowly devolve into a low-rent meth lab: full of shouting, stench, and the depressing inevitability of yet another noxious explosion.

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2014,23:52   

In that thread, Mapou did state something about himself that is true:

"I’m a crackpot and a kook and I like it that way."

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2014,00:34   

Regarding Louis Savain (Mapou, Traveler, etc.):

http://users.telenet.be/vdmoort....ty.html

http://scienceblogs.com/strange....-savain

http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014.......in.html

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2014,01:06   

More ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...

http://www.spacebanter.com/showthr....=126098

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2014,04:30   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Sep. 22 2014,23:40)
Uncommon Descent was never a likely place to find civil, productive conversations, but Arrington has made a proper mess of it. It's like watching a dive bar slowly devolve into a low-rent meth lab: full of shouting, stench, and the depressing inevitability of yet another noxious explosion.

SS UD sank when it hit the Kitzmiller iceberg. Janitor second class Arrington is now in command of the lifeboats, and they're sailing off into obscurity.

Barry is a scientific know-nothing, but he laywers and preens for the survivors. unfortunately he is so fucking boring and it is rubbing off on UD.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2014,04:47   

Gordon, in a rare moment of brevity:

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kairosfocusSeptember 23, 2014 at 1:48 am
PS: I forgot, these days, inductive reasoning and knowledge are suddenly suspect.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....origins

"These days"

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2014,12:40   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 23 2014,03:30)
SS UD sank when it hit the Kitzmiller iceberg. Janitor second class Arrington is now in command of the lifeboats, and they're sailing off into obscurity.

Did he rearrange the deck chairs first?

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2014,12:56   

Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 23 2014,18:40)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 23 2014,03:30)
SS UD sank when it hit the Kitzmiller iceberg. Janitor second class Arrington is now in command of the lifeboats, and they're sailing off into obscurity.

Did he rearrange the deck chairs first?

Fuck that, Arrington would've been touting lifeboat seats.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2014,17:12   

top 2 stories on UD right now:

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You’ve Been Dead Wrong For Nearly Two Decades. Why Should We Radically Change Our Economies Now Based on What You Say?
September 23, 2014 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design
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Satellite instruments began uniformly measuring temperatures throughout the Earth’s lower atmosphere in 1979. Climate scientists overseeing these NASA satellite instruments produced the chart below showing the following temperature trends: * a plateau of temperatures, with absolutely no warming, from 1979 through 1997 * a large temperature spike in 1998 * a return to the 1979-1997 […]

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Here’s That Story in the Los Angeles Times about Global Warming
September 23, 2014 Intelligent Design

Because when the Los Angeles Times runs a piece questioning the A in AGW (anthropogenic, or man-made, global warming), then you know something is wrong: Read more

   
REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2014,19:53   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 23 2014,17:12)
top 2 stories on UD right now:

   
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You’ve Been Dead Wrong For Nearly Two Decades. Why Should We Radically Change Our Economies Now Based on What You Say?
September 23, 2014 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design
No Comments

Satellite instruments began uniformly measuring temperatures throughout the Earth’s lower atmosphere in 1979. Climate scientists overseeing these NASA satellite instruments produced the chart below showing the following temperature trends: * a plateau of temperatures, with absolutely no warming, from 1979 through 1997 * a large temperature spike in 1998 * a return to the 1979-1997 […]

and
   
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Here’s That Story in the Los Angeles Times about Global Warming
September 23, 2014 Intelligent Design

Because when the Los Angeles Times runs a piece questioning the A in AGW (anthropogenic, or man-made, global warming), then you know something is wrong: Read more

Barry and that Heartland Institute anti-global warming shill he quotes are birds of a feather--lawyers pretending at science for the sake of anti-science groups.

But for fucks sake, a kindergartner could draw an accurate trend line through that data in the graph Barry praises. If virtually all the data points are below the axis on the left, and virtually all are above it on the right, guess fucking what? Its getting hotter.  

http://www.uncommondescent.com/wp-cont....014.png

p.s. I think the red line is there to obfuscate the (cherry picked) data.

Here's real data:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot.......t....nd

ETA: maybe Barry's looking for a job. Being the unpaid shill for a stillborn movement has got nothing on oil industry $$$.

Edited by REC on Sep. 23 2014,20:09

  
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,00:50   

It was with some personal interest that I read David Tyler’s paean to Professor John Rendle-Short over at UD.

Over a long and distinguished career in medicine, Rendle-Short had a large and positive impact in humanising the treatment of women and newborn infants in the Queensland hospital system, and also in the diagnosis and treatment of childhood diseases. Unfortunately, he was also prey to religious narrow-mindedness.

I spent my youth in Brisbane, Queensland, and well remember John Rendle-Short as a public figure.

The early 1980s were a (relatively) turbulent period in Queensland politics. The state government was led by Johannes Bjelke-Petersen, popularly known as “The Flying Peanut”, but in truth one of the most callous and corrupt players in Queensland’s sad political history. His government relied for its majority on a gerrymander that weighted a country vote at three times the value of a city vote.

Abetted by an outstandingly corrupt police force leadership, Bjelke-Petersen attempted to close down the Greenslopes Clinic – virtually the only place in Brisbane where a woman could receive a voluntary, legal abortion. It was a vicious and cynical manoeuvre to shore up his increasingly shaky conservative support base.

A vigorous counter-campaign organised by women’s organisations, left-wing groups and some church bodies led ultimately to extraordinarily large-scale street demonstrations against his proposed law (extraordinary in my experience, anyway). To the great satisfaction of the abortion rights movement and right-thinking people everywhere, Bjelke-Petersen was forced to abandon his attempt to mandate back-alley abortions and unwanted pregnancies.

Professor Rendle-Short played a fairly prominent role in supporting the state government’s actions, and repeatedly appeared in the media at the time arguing in favour of removing legal access by women in Queensland to abortion. So, it is interesting to discover that he had changed his tune in twenty years.

From “Dangerous Pregnancies: Mothers, Disabilities, and Abortion in Modern America”, Leslie J. Reagan, University of California Press, 20 Jun 2010:
                 
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John Rendle-Short of the University of Queensland, Australia, observed that the decision to end a pregnancy due to rubella ‘is a matter for the parents to decide in the light of their religious beliefs’. As reported in ‘Measles Threat to Unborn,’ Science News Letter 86 (September 26, 1964):194.

I wonder how many latter-day anti-abortion fundamentalists would subscribe publicly to Rendle-Short’s moderately humane view in 1964 that a pregnant woman, faced with the potential consequences of a rubella infection, should be able to decide to have an abortion?

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Queensland Arcana

Bjelke-Petersen did not invent the Queensland gerrymander - he inherited it from an equally corrupt preceding government of the opposite political stripe (well not so opposite actually).

For those with an interest in provincial Antipodian shenanigans of the time, google any or all of:

Terry Lewis (police officer)
Don "Shady" Lane
Frank Bischof
Russell Hinze
"The Hillbilly Dictator"
Rona Joyner
Bagman Jack Herbert
Fitzgerald Inquiry

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,01:38   

OK, my signature is full. So anyone wants this they can have it:

"You replace that engagement with empty proclamations and so on and so forth."

Upright Biped

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,03:05   

On Barry's Banning Thread, Dr. JDD asks
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When have IDers tried to remove evolutionists from their tenured positions or lectureships or jobs due to their views on origins?

Exhibit A

Of course, I would post this on UD but, well, I'm banned.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,10:06   

Quote (Woodbine @ Sep. 23 2014,20:56)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 23 2014,18:40)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 23 2014,03:30)
SS UD sank when it hit the Kitzmiller iceberg. Janitor second class Arrington is now in command of the lifeboats, and they're sailing off into obscurity.

Did he rearrange the deck chairs first?

Fuck that, Arrington would've been touting lifeboat seats.

More like his writing up a mortgage of five pieces of silver on a soul to each survivor already in the water after the ship had sunk. Barry ambulance chaser likes a captive market. How he fits it all in with bill collecting, garnishees, caveats, trespass, custody conspirators, amendment pleaders and suppression orders for the PTB I don't know.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,10:13   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Sep. 24 2014,03:05)
On Barry's Banning Thread, Dr. JDD asks
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When have IDers tried to remove evolutionists from their tenured positions or lectureships or jobs due to their views on origins?

Exhibit A

Of course, I would post this on UD but, well, I'm banned.

Interesting:

Dembski holds that his knowledge of statistics and his skepticism concerning evolutionary theory led him to believe that the extraordinary diversity of life was statistically unlikely to have been produced by natural selection.[7] His first significant contribution to intelligent design was his 1991 paper, "Randomness by Design," published in the philosophy journal Noûs.[12][13] These ideas led to his notion of specified complexity, which he developed in The Design Inference, a revision of his PhD dissertation in philosophy.[14]

Looks like his big breakthru idea is nothing more than the argument from big numbers.

(A  cell has X number of parts and each part has only Y chance of coming about by chance there fore X * Y = unbelievably large number so evolution is falsified.)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,11:56   

kairosfocus:

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I have seen Phil Harding of Channel 4′s Time Team. The speed with which he spots a flint tool as an artifact has to be seen to be believed, based on characteristic signs of deliberate shaping. As to potsherds and the way they are used to give a rough date . . . the notion of accidental formation does not even enter. KF


Brilliant! All we have to do is apply this methodology to non-flinty/pot things and we're home free.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,13:27   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Sep. 24 2014,04:05)
On Barry's Banning Thread, Dr. JDD asks
   
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When have IDers tried to remove evolutionists from their tenured positions or lectureships or jobs due to their views on origins?

Exhibit A

Of course, I would post this on UD but, well, I'm banned.

Now, now, he is right. IDist wouldn't remove the darwinists from their jobs - they would remove the jobs from the darwinists.
 
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Dr. Dr. WAD (UD link): If I ever became the president of a university (per impossibile), I would dissolve the biology department and divide the faculty with tenure that I couldn’t get rid of into two new departments: those who know engineering and how it applies to biological systems would be assigned to the new “Department of Biological Engineering”; the rest, and that includes the evolutionists, would be consigned to the new “Department of Nature Appreciation” (didn’t Darwin think of himself as a naturalist?).


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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,13:34   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Sep. 24 2014,12:56)
kairosfocus:

     
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I have seen Phil Harding of Channel 4′s Time Team. The speed with which he spots a flint tool as an artifact has to be seen to be believed, based on characteristic signs of deliberate shaping. As to potsherds and the way they are used to give a rough date . . . the notion of accidental formation does not even enter. KF


Brilliant! All we have to do is apply this methodology to non-flinty/pot things and we're home free.

I don't know about Phil Harding's Channel 4 Time Team, but I've seen a celebrity chef roast a 20 lb turkey to golden brown deliciousness in half an hour (with commercials!), where it took me over 5 hours and it still didn't look nearly as good.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,19:04   

Quote (Gunthernacus @ Sep. 24 2014,21:34)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Sep. 24 2014,12:56)
kairosfocus:

       
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I have seen Phil Harding of Channel 4′s Time Team. The speed with which he spots a flint tool as an artifact has to be seen to be believed, based on characteristic signs of deliberate shaping. As to potsherds and the way they are used to give a rough date . . . the notion of accidental formation does not even enter. KF


Brilliant! All we have to do is apply this methodology to non-flinty/pot things and we're home free.

I don't know about Phil Harding's Channel 4 Time Team, but I've seen a celebrity chef roast a 20 lb turkey to golden brown deliciousness in half an hour (with commercials!), where it took me over 5 hours and it still didn't look nearly as good.

I'd like to see Gordon cook a stone, eat an elephant and recognize his failings.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2014,23:26   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Sep. 24 2014,03:05)
On Barry's Banning Thread, Dr. JDD asks
 
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When have IDers tried to remove evolutionists from their tenured positions or lectureships or jobs due to their views on origins?

Exhibit A

Of course, I would post this on UD but, well, I'm banned.

Those poor bastards.  They're being brutally attacked by their own past.  Where is God when you need Him?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2014,07:58   

Have fun and read   Jeffrey Shallit's answer to Barry Arrington's latest idiocy.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2014,08:02   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 25 2014,07:26)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Sep. 24 2014,03:05)
On Barry's Banning Thread, Dr. JDD asks
   
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When have IDers tried to remove evolutionists from their tenured positions or lectureships or jobs due to their views on origins?

Exhibit A

Of course, I would post this on UD but, well, I'm banned.

Those poor bastards.  They're being brutally attacked by their own past.  Where is God when you need Him?

Looks like God had a quiet chat with Dembski and got him to admit da flud™ was not just a Middle Eastern thing. Thus proving God is a Fundy Southern Baptist.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2014,09:19   

Quote (DiEb @ Sep. 25 2014,08:58)
Have fun and read   Jeffrey Shallit's answer to Barry Arrington's latest idiocy.

I started to say Barry and his ID buddies serve the same purpose the Washington Generals served, but the generals actually won 6 out of their 13,000+ games, so the comparison is flawed.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2014,09:38   

that article is going to be delicious. I kinda want to have a steak and baked potato, apres-dinner espresso shot, change into a smoking jacket and slippers, puff on a davidoff cigarillo, have a double Laphroag 12-year scotch, and then slowly savor it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2014,09:46   

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Ever since the ID creationist blog Uncommon Descent was taken over by Barry Arrington, it's been a first-class show of the irremediable arrogance and ignorance of creationists. I don't post there because Arrington routinely bans dissent, but I do sometimes enjoy the show.


Ah, that's nice.

   
REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2014,10:03   

Is steveh a clever troll, or a total moron (regarding trends in climate data:

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Global warming? Don’t make me laugh. The only thing happening here is that, over time, the plateaus are getting more elevated.


More elevated? Like hotter?

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2014,10:14   

don't make me laugh REC. Global Warming is a joke. All that's happening is the readings on the thermometers are bigger numbers.

   
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