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ppb Posts: 325 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,09:34    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,10:25) About that promotion again, I feel like I should have gone "HARHAR, THIS IS YOU" and select a lolcat of choice. But life sometimes brings unto us choices that are, in the words of Esope, "bloody hard" This is how it works: HAR HAR, THIS IS YOU! -------------- "[A scientific theory] describes Nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept Nature as She is - absurd." - Richard P. Feynman

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,09:36    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,15:25) About that promotion again, I feel like I should have gone "HARHAR, THIS IS YOU" and select a lolcat of choice. But life sometimes brings unto us choices that are, in the words of Esope, "bloody hard" Yes the LOLCat and HAHA THIS IS YOU would have been the standard method, and indeed would have earned you a reasonable promotion. Creative use thereof would of risen you to higher ranks. Offering up your female friends/relatives however is suitably disgusting and has several biblical precdents. I'm afraid at this time you are simply too biblically oriented for a full promotion. You do however get a sticker for recognising the correct path which reads "I'm Mummy's Special Boy!". So well done, champ, well done. Louis -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,09:37    Quote (ppb @ Oct. 08 2009,15:34) Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,10:25) About that promotion again, I feel like I should have gone "HARHAR, THIS IS YOU" and select a lolcat of choice. But life sometimes brings unto us choices that are, in the words of Esope, "bloody hard" This is how it works: HAR HAR, THIS IS YOU! Well done PPB, and excellent illustration of what we were looking for. You win 3 quatloos and a go on Arden. Louis -------------- Bye.

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,09:39    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,09:36) [snip] Offering up your female friends/relatives however is suitably disgusting and has several biblical precdents. . [snip] Louis Shorter Louis: "Damn! Why didn't I think of that?!?!" PS: I really want to see Clownshoes' "research" -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

JonF Posts: 634 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,10:18    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,09:40) Quote (JonF @ Oct. 08 2009,13:36) Quote (ppb @ Oct. 08 2009,07:12) It's the same thing with FL.  You can see the fear in his writing.  He can't allow for the possibility that things are not as he believes them to be.  Christians who veer from the straight and narrow of his biblical Christianity are in danger.  If they abandon the faith, they're on the down elevator to hell. Yup. I call it the Get Out Of Hell Free Card. I gotta have a Get Out of Hell Free Card. If I do all the right stuff, I get a Get Out of Hell Free Card. But if I have to interpret the Bible, I might interpret it wrong. If I interpret the Bible wrong, I might not get my Get Out of Hell Free Card. Therefore the Bible must be inerrant un-inerpretable so I don't have to make any choices and can be assured of getting my Get Out of Hell Free Card. But the problem is they do interpret the bible. There is no other option available to them. Of course. But that's the lie they have to tell themselves.

ppb Posts: 325 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,10:38    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,10:37) You win 3 quatloos and a go on Arden. A go on Arden?  What would I have gotten if I had won? -------------- "[A scientific theory] describes Nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept Nature as She is - absurd." - Richard P. Feynman

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,10:39    Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 08 2009,15:39) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,09:36) [snip] Offering up your female friends/relatives however is suitably disgusting and has several biblical precdents. . [snip] Louis Shorter Louis: "Damn! Why didn't I think of that?!?!" PS: I really want to see Clownshoes' "research" Oh please. *I* didn't think of something utterly inappropriate and disgusting? Where have you been this last billion years or so? Louis -------------- Bye.

OWKtree Posts: 16 Joined: Nov. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,12:36    The last six pages of chewtoy-dom aside does the acceptance of geological "deep time", a long age of the earth, etc. therefore require the acceptance of evolutionary theory to explain the development of life on the aged orb? I think any explanation that the current (or very similar to current) lifeforms were developed at that time (e.g. multiple billions of years ago) and have existed in something close to a static state for that length of time is: 1. Not supported by the fossil evidence 2. Not supported by the DNA evidence (pointing to development and diversity of species in relatively rapid time frames.) To summarize, if you accept an old Earth (4+ billion years old and the accompanying geology (stratifigraphy, plate tectonics, etc.) does that require acceptance of the current theory of the evolution of life?  (And if not, what is a rational theory that explains the known evidence?) - Kurt

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,12:40    Quote (ppb @ Oct. 08 2009,16:38) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,10:37) You win 3 quatloos and a go on Arden. A go on Arden?  What would I have gotten if I had won? 4 qualtoos, 1 internet and a "Get out of goes on Arden" card for one week. Anyway, he's greased himself up and he's ready to go. Well, I say "he" but there's no real way to tell any more. I just go by the amount of hair and hope for the best. Louis -------------- Bye.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,13:09    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,05:39) Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 08 2009,03:59) [SNIP ABUSE] Each and every epithet perfectly appropriate. Oh Lou I am bitterly disappointed. All that vitriol, all that abuse. You missed so much out! Here are a few choice bon mots you missed.... anti-intellectual fuckpig clueless gibbering tosspot mammering gudgeon (a personal favourite from ages hence) But wait, there's more! ;-) Louis I was on a short homework and study break. I had a midterm in World Lit at 8 this morning. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

nmgirl Posts: 92 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,13:28    Quote (OWKtree @ Oct. 08 2009,12:36) The last six pages of chewtoy-dom aside does the acceptance of geological "deep time", a long age of the earth, etc. therefore require the acceptance of evolutionary theory to explain the development of life on the aged orb? I think any explanation that the current (or very similar to current) lifeforms were developed at that time (e.g. multiple billions of years ago) and have existed in something close to a static state for that length of time is: 1. Not supported by the fossil evidence 2. Not supported by the DNA evidence (pointing to development and diversity of species in relatively rapid time frames.) To summarize, if you accept an old Earth (4+ billion years old and the accompanying geology (stratifigraphy, plate tectonics, etc.) does that require acceptance of the current theory of the evolution of life?  (And if not, what is a rational theory that explains the known evidence?) - Kurt I don't think you can even discuss evolution without an acceptance of deep time. And i don't understand how you can know anything about geology and deny deep time. I also don't see how you can deny all the evidence of an old earth by claiming that god deliberately faked all that evidence. I think it's blasphemy to claim that god is a fraud.

OWKtree Posts: 16 Joined: Nov. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,13:50    Quote (nmgirl @ Oct. 08 2009,13:28) Quote (OWKtree @ Oct. 08 2009,12:36) The last six pages of chewtoy-dom aside does the acceptance of geological "deep time", a long age of the earth, etc. therefore require the acceptance of evolutionary theory to explain the development of life on the aged orb? I think any explanation that the current (or very similar to current) lifeforms were developed at that time (e.g. multiple billions of years ago) and have existed in something close to a static state for that length of time is: 1. Not supported by the fossil evidence 2. Not supported by the DNA evidence (pointing to development and diversity of species in relatively rapid time frames.) To summarize, if you accept an old Earth (4+ billion years old and the accompanying geology (stratifigraphy, plate tectonics, etc.) does that require acceptance of the current theory of the evolution of life?  (And if not, what is a rational theory that explains the known evidence?) - Kurt I don't think you can even discuss evolution without an acceptance of deep time. And i don't understand how you can know anything about geology and deny deep time. I also don't see how you can deny all the evidence of an old earth by claiming that god deliberately faked all that evidence. I think it's blasphemy to claim that god is a fraud. I am working this from the opposite tack - assuming you accept deep time and the geology, what are the rational options for explaining the diversity and scope of life on the planet given the existing evidence? - Kurt

Stanton Posts: 266 Joined: Jan. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,13:52    Quote (nmgirl @ Oct. 08 2009,13:28) I don't think you can even discuss evolution without an acceptance of deep time. And i don't understand how you can know anything about geology and deny deep time. I also don't see how you can deny all the evidence of an old earth by claiming that god deliberately faked all that evidence. I think it's blasphemy to claim that god is a fraud. Well, technically, you can discuss evolution without mentioning deep time if you're talking about recent examples of evolution, i.e., the development of new breeds of domesticated animals, new biological innovations among agricultural pests, etc. On the other hand, when you move on to more esoteric and or touchy matters like the interrelationships of big taxa and or fossil taxa (i.e., birds vs reptiles, or ammonites, etc), then the acceptance of deep time is automatic.

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,13:58    Quote (OWKtree @ Oct. 08 2009,12:36) To summarize, if you accept an old Earth (4+ billion years old and the accompanying geology (stratifigraphy, plate tectonics, etc.) does that require acceptance of the current theory of the evolution of life?  (And if not, what is a rational theory that explains the known evidence?) - Kurt When you look for what the anti-evolutionists actually believe about the the facts which we see -- fossils, radiometric dating, etc) the only ones that are relatively clear and upfront about their ideas are the YECS, in my opinion. Sure, they're wrong, but at least they're clear about what they think. The ID-ists that I know about range from Behe's acceptance of evolution to Dembski's "I'll never tell!." The latter accepts an old age for the Earth, but is also a literalist who accepts a real Adam and Eve, but never really reveals how he thinks species arise. He now rejects "front-loading," though. I figure he really accepts that evolutionary speciation occurs, but he doesn't want to rankle the people that buy his books most. The rest of the ID crowd also seems to be clearest about what they dislike about NeoDarwinian Theory rather than what THEY propose as mechanism. Again, deliberately, in my view. With "Long-Age" ANTI-evolutionists...the only thing I can think of that they propose as a mechanism for new forms to arise is special creation for each one via "Divine genetic engineering" in the words of some of Hugh Ross' group. As near as I could tell, it appears to be species arising through special creation all through time, really. I certainly haven't seen any detailed, defensible theory out of any of the Anti-Evolutionists, whether Yec, Long-Age antievo or IDist antievo. I don't see how anyone can get around the evidence we now have in terms of an old Earth and The New Synthesis. It's simply better than anything else offered. I'd certainly be interested to hear what info others might have read on any actual mechanisms proposed by Long-Age or ID Antievolutionists -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:03    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,16:36) Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,15:25) About that promotion again, I feel like I should have gone "HARHAR, THIS IS YOU" and select a lolcat of choice. But life sometimes brings unto us choices that are, in the words of Esope, "bloody hard" Yes the LOLCat and HAHA THIS IS YOU would have been the standard method, and indeed would have earned you a reasonable promotion. Creative use thereof would of risen you to higher ranks. Offering up your female friends/relatives however is suitably disgusting and has several biblical precdents. I'm afraid at this time you are simply too biblically oriented for a full promotion. You do however get a sticker for recognising the correct path which reads "I'm Mummy's Special Boy!". So well done, champ, well done. Louis Well now, that sucks! Can't I even get the first half of the 15 minutes secret handshake for offering my female relatives? Damn! You Church-Burning-Ebola-Boys are more closed-up than the famous "can't-fink-of-a-name" Ankh-Morpork troll gang*... *who have, as a permanent member, a block of concrete on a piece of string. -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:08    Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 08 2009,19:09) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,05:39)   Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 08 2009,03:59) [SNIP ABUSE] Each and every epithet perfectly appropriate. Oh Lou I am bitterly disappointed. All that vitriol, all that abuse. You missed so much out! Here are a few choice bon mots you missed.... anti-intellectual fuckpig clueless gibbering tosspot mammering gudgeon (a personal favourite from ages hence) But wait, there's more! ;-) Louis I was on a short homework and study break. I had a midterm in World Lit at 8 this morning. You are forgiven your trespasses. Say three Hail RichTards and an Our Carlson, perform one act of Deadmanesque contrition with a squirrel and buy J-Dog a beer*. Go in peace, Oh Moderator and Homonymous Biologist of Teh Future! Louis *J-Dog, don't ever say I don't do anything for you. ETA: Lou, the midterm, it went superbly one presumes? -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:12    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,20:03) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,16:36) Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,15:25) About that promotion again, I feel like I should have gone "HARHAR, THIS IS YOU" and select a lolcat of choice. But life sometimes brings unto us choices that are, in the words of Esope, "bloody hard" Yes the LOLCat and HAHA THIS IS YOU would have been the standard method, and indeed would have earned you a reasonable promotion. Creative use thereof would of risen you to higher ranks. Offering up your female friends/relatives however is suitably disgusting and has several biblical precdents. I'm afraid at this time you are simply too biblically oriented for a full promotion. You do however get a sticker for recognising the correct path which reads "I'm Mummy's Special Boy!". So well done, champ, well done. Louis Well now, that sucks! Can't I even get the first half of the 15 minutes secret handshake for offering my female relatives? Damn! You Church-Burning-Ebola-Boys are more closed-up than the famous "can't-fink-of-a-name" Ankh-Morpork troll gang*... *who have, as a permanent member, a block of concrete on a piece of string. But you've got to really hate the Romans Creationists to be in the People's front of Judea Church Burnin' Ebola Boys. Do you really hate them? Do you, Brian Schrodinger's Dog? Louis P.S. You're not the Messiah, you're a very naughty boy. -------------- Bye.

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:21    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,21:12) But you've got to really hate the Romans Creationists to be in the People's front of Judea Church Burnin' Ebola Boys. Do you really hate them? Do you, Brian Schrodinger's Dog? Louis P.S. You're not the Messiah, you're a very naughty boy. Brian: Have I got a big nose, Mum? Brian's mother: Stop thinking about sex! Brian: I wasn't! Brian's mother: You're always on about it. "Will the girls like this? Will the girls like that? Is it too big? Is it too small? " -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:25    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,14:08) {snip blah,blah blah}  Say three Hail RichTards and an Our Carlson, perform one act of Deadmanesque contrition with a squirrel and buy J-Dog a beer*. Go in peace, Oh Moderator and Homonymous Biologist of Teh Future! Louis WTF!?!?! Why is J-Dog the only one that gets a beer? And why are you calling Lou a homoname? -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:30    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,15:08) ETA: Lou, the midterm, it went superbly one presumes? Yeah, it seemed to. I took a gratuitous shot at a creotard classmate in the essay which may or may not have gone over well, however. I did support my claim that "Humanism is selfish, it's all about me and becoming God" was a retarded statement (though I worded that part more academically) made in willful ignorance and my answer was on topic, so I can't see how the instructor could really bitch about it. Other than that, I pretty well nailed it to the wall and watched it bleed. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:32    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,20:21) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,21:12) But you've got to really hate the Romans Creationists to be in the People's front of Judea Church Burnin' Ebola Boys. Do you really hate them? Do you, Brian Schrodinger's Dog? Louis P.S. You're not the Messiah, you're a very naughty boy. Brian: Have I got a big nose, Mum? Brian's mother: Stop thinking about sex! Brian: I wasn't! Brian's mother: You're always on about it. "Will the girls like this? Will the girls like that? Is it too big? Is it too small? " All right, Shirley, you're in. Now we here at the Church Burnin' Ebola boys are strongly affiliated with the Evil Atheist Conspiracy* (which doesn't exist). There will be no black helicopters converging on your position as we speak and they will not in any way be full of Training Operatives who will provide you with armaments we don't own and train you in handshakes and anti-religious person techniques we haven't developed. Louis * The EAC doesn't exist. Forget I said anything, which of course I didn't, because there's nothing for me to have said anything about. Our operatives, which are not in any way arriving at your location as we speak, will not be erasing the memory of this post from your mind. Because this post didn't get posted and those operatives don't exist. This in no way goes for all of you reading this, that would be impossible. Or would it be?** Remember: The Evil Atheist Conspiracy, We're After Your Puppies and Kids. Or we would be if we existed. Which we don't ** Yes it would.*** *** Or would it be?** -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:37    Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 08 2009,20:25) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,14:08) {snip blah,blah blah}  Say three Hail RichTards and an Our Carlson, perform one act of Deadmanesque contrition with a squirrel and buy J-Dog a beer*. Go in peace, Oh Moderator and Homonymous Biologist of Teh Future! Louis WTF!?!?! Why is J-Dog the only one that gets a beer? And why are you calling Lou a homoname? You get the happy knowledge that another innocent person (who just happens to wear the occasional dress) has been seduced into your seedy world of squirrel bothering. Oh all right, I'll send you a beer. Louis -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:41    Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 08 2009,20:30) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,15:08) ETA: Lou, the midterm, it went superbly one presumes? Yeah, it seemed to. I took a gratuitous shot at a creotard classmate in the essay which may or may not have gone over well, however. I did support my claim that "Humanism is selfish, it's all about me and becoming God" was a retarded statement (though I worded that part more academically) made in willful ignorance and my answer was on topic, so I can't see how the instructor could really bitch about it. Other than that, I pretty well nailed it to the wall and watched it bleed. Taking pot shots at creationist classmates? Lou, you have balls as big as church bells. Won't there be a collective bout of pearl clutching and finger wagging? Do you have a fainting couch ready for the inevitable casualties? Louis -------------- Bye.

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:42    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,21:32) Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,20:21) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,21:12) But you've got to really hate the Romans Creationists to be in the People's front of Judea Church Burnin' Ebola Boys. Do you really hate them? Do you, Brian Schrodinger's Dog? Louis P.S. You're not the Messiah, you're a very naughty boy. Brian: Have I got a big nose, Mum? Brian's mother: Stop thinking about sex! Brian: I wasn't! Brian's mother: You're always on about it. "Will the girls like this? Will the girls like that? Is it too big? Is it too small? " All right, Shirley, you're in. Now we here at the Church Burnin' Ebola boys are strongly affiliated with the Evil Atheist Conspiracy* (which doesn't exist). There will be no black helicopters converging on your position as we speak and they will not in any way be full of Training Operatives who will provide you with armaments we don't own and train you in handshakes and anti-religious person techniques we haven't developed. Louis * The EAC doesn't exist. Forget I said anything, which of course I didn't, because there's nothing for me to have said anything about. Our operatives, which are not in any way arriving at your location as we speak, will not be erasing the memory of this post from your mind. Because this post didn't get posted and those operatives don't exist. This in no way goes for all of you reading this, that would be impossible. Or would it be?** Remember: The Evil Atheist Conspiracy, We're After Your Puppies and Kids. Or we would be if we existed. Which we don't ** Yes it would.*** *** Or would it be?** Oh, ok. That's all settled, then. Should I prepare some cookies* and milk** for my non-existant visitors? Just asking... *girls **booze -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:47    Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,15:41) Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 08 2009,20:30) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,15:08) ETA: Lou, the midterm, it went superbly one presumes? Yeah, it seemed to. I took a gratuitous shot at a creotard classmate in the essay which may or may not have gone over well, however. I did support my claim that "Humanism is selfish, it's all about me and becoming God" was a retarded statement (though I worded that part more academically) made in willful ignorance and my answer was on topic, so I can't see how the instructor could really bitch about it. Other than that, I pretty well nailed it to the wall and watched it bleed. Taking pot shots at creationist classmates? Lou, you have balls as big as church bells. Won't there be a collective bout of pearl clutching and finger wagging? Do you have a fainting couch ready for the inevitable casualties? Louis Quite possibly. It's a good story, but I'm on my way out the door. It'll have to wait. The question was regarding remnants of Romanticism in the culture today as a philosophy based on emotion and rejection of Enlightenment ideals of reason and logic. That was all the opening I needed. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,14:53    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,20:42) [SNIP] Should I prepare some cookies* and milk** for my non-existant visitors? Just asking... *girls **booze Yes. Our operatives, which don't exist, are very fond of girls and booze, which do exist. They will not enjoy themselves because they won't be there. But if they were there, and if they existed, they'd really enjoy a pastis, perhaps some calvados.* And a blonde. Those non existent operatives like blondes. Louis * I know these are traditionally Norman/Northern French tipples, but I forget which part of France you live in (our operatives know, but I'm {ahem} pretending not to know), so I can't request regional delicacies. -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,15:01    Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 08 2009,20:47) Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,15:41) Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 08 2009,20:30)   Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2009,15:08) ETA: Lou, the midterm, it went superbly one presumes? Yeah, it seemed to. I took a gratuitous shot at a creotard classmate in the essay which may or may not have gone over well, however. I did support my claim that "Humanism is selfish, it's all about me and becoming God" was a retarded statement (though I worded that part more academically) made in willful ignorance and my answer was on topic, so I can't see how the instructor could really bitch about it. Other than that, I pretty well nailed it to the wall and watched it bleed. Taking pot shots at creationist classmates? Lou, you have balls as big as church bells. Won't there be a collective bout of pearl clutching and finger wagging? Do you have a fainting couch ready for the inevitable casualties? Louis Quite possibly. It's a good story, but I'm on my way out the door. It'll have to wait. The question was regarding remnants of Romanticism in the culture today as a philosophy based on emotion and rejection of Enlightenment ideals of reason and logic. That was all the opening I needed. LOL That is an opening as wide as the Pacific Ocean. I think you're on safe turf. There's a Freak Brothers cartoon where Fat Freddy sets about trying to write a horror movie (after a disappointing cinematic experience) and uses a huge quantity of speed as {cough} inspiration to churn out a quick script. Freewheelin' Franklin and Phineas return to read the script which basically reads: "....And they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went and they went and then they went....." If given the sort of opportunity you were I'm afraid I might end up with a Fat Freddy-esque screed that ran roughly: "...And then fucking homeopaths di this and then fucking creationists did that and then and then and then and then..." At the end of the exam period I'd probably need to be shot with a heroin/thorazine dart to stop me. Louis -------------- Bye.

sledgehammer Posts: 533 Joined: Sep. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,15:07    Quote (OWKtree @ Oct. 08 2009,11:50)   Quote (nmgirl @ Oct. 08 2009,13:28)     Quote (OWKtree @ Oct. 08 2009,12:36) The last six pages of chewtoy-dom aside does the acceptance of geological "deep time", a long age of the earth, etc. therefore require the acceptance of evolutionary theory to explain the development of life on the aged orb? I think any explanation that the current (or very similar to current) lifeforms were developed at that time (e.g. multiple billions of years ago) and have existed in something close to a static state for that length of time is: 1. Not supported by the fossil evidence 2. Not supported by the DNA evidence (pointing to development and diversity of species in relatively rapid time frames.) To summarize, if you accept an old Earth (4+ billion years old and the accompanying geology (stratifigraphy, plate tectonics, etc.) does that require acceptance of the current theory of the evolution of life?  (And if not, what is a rational theory that explains the known evidence?) - Kurt I don't think you can even discuss evolution without an acceptance of deep time. And i don't understand how you can know anything about geology and deny deep time. I also don't see how you can deny all the evidence of an old earth by claiming that god deliberately faked all that evidence. I think it's blasphemy to claim that god is a fraud. I am working this from the opposite tack - assuming you accept deep time and the geology, what are the rational options for explaining the diversity and scope of life on the planet given the existing evidence? - Kurt There are lots of ways that a god might have "poofed" things into existence over time.  It's the "rational" part that's hard to come by.  About the only alternative that I've heard that even flirts with some form of rationality, is that an unseen, all-powerful god subtly manipulated many individual quantum events over the eons, in such a way that the overall statistics remained unchanged, and therefore undetectable, yet steered the macroscopic results. Of course that scenario is as unfalsifiable as the all powerful entity itself. -------------- The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time. The terror of their tyranny is alleviated by their lack of consistency. -A. Einstein  (H/T, JAD) If evolution is true, you could not know that it's true because your brain is nothing but chemicals. ?Think about that. -K. Hovind

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,15:14    Quote * I know these are traditionally Norman/Northern French tipples, but I forget which part of France you live in (our operatives know, but I'm {ahem} pretending not to know), so I can't request regional delicacies. Pastis is actualy a typical south drink. I live in Nice, on the French Riviera, and Pastis is our traditional drink. Calvados is drank here as well, but as a post-dinner cordial... -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2009,15:32    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 08 2009,21:14) Quote * I know these are traditionally Norman/Northern French tipples, but I forget which part of France you live in (our operatives know, but I'm {ahem} pretending not to know), so I can't request regional delicacies. Pastis is actualy a typical south drink. I live in Nice, on the French Riviera, and Pastis is our traditional drink. Calvados is drank here as well, but as a post-dinner cordial... My bad, I thought pastis was Northern (mostly). I don't know why I thought that, but I did. I shall perform three acts of contrition with some bad mayonnaise and sing the Marseillaise at an England rugby match to cover the shame I have brought on my French ancestors (my paternal grandmother was half French). Of course everyone who is anyone drinks calvados. Nice, lovely place. I've been there several times and enjoyed myself immensely. It's also not too far from some decent rugby! ;-) Dammit, now I am getting my weekly Francophile urges. I would dearly love to live in France, the thing that scares me off a little is the bureaucracy associated with scientific institutions....mind you, bureaucracy always appears worse from far away! Louis -------------- Bye.

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