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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2014,19:18   

OMG I'd forgotten about that! that was so great!

Denyse: If Darwin mattered then stupid ol michael shermer wouldn't have to write a book called Why Darwin Matters.
sophophile: So what about these books:
Why Religion Matters
Scripture Matters
Why Children Matter
Why New Orleans matters
Why Truth Matters....(and a dozen more)
Denyse: No those things are just abstractions. Even New Orleans.
Mark Frank: okeydokey how about this one:
Why Jesus Matters
Denyse: Jesus is an abstraction too. Those don't count.

LOL WHAT AN IDIOT!  :p  :p  :p

Edited by stevestory on Aug. 29 2014,20:20

   
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2014,20:23   

In the replies to the above, Bat'sAss77 gets excited:
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The preceding interactive graph points out that the smallest scale visible to the human eye (as well as a human egg) is at 10^-4 meters, which ‘just so happens’ to be directly in the exponential center of all possible sizes of our physical reality (not just ‘nearly’ in the exponential center!). i.e. 10^-4 is, exponentially, right in the middle of 10^-35 meters, which is the smallest possible unit of length, which is Planck length, and 10^27 meters, which is the largest possible unit of ‘observable’ length since space-time was created in the Big Bang, which is the diameter of the universe. This is very interesting for, as far as I can tell, the limits to human vision (as well as the size of the human egg) could have, theoretically, been at very different positions than directly in the exponential middle.

I wonder if there are any two numbers in the entire universe that DON'T remind Batty of Jesus.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 30 2014,07:47   

Heh heh. 10^-4 is 'right in the middle' of a log scale! To base 10! Good job we've got 10 digits, or the world wouldn't be half so neat.

I do have one significant digit for Mr BA!

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 30 2014,18:42   

E.O. Wilson says we should leave half the planet undeveloped as nature preserves. Dense O'Leary sneers at him, but I can't actually find an argument in her babble.

linky

   
khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 30 2014,18:53   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 30 2014,19:42)
E.O. Wilson says we should leave half the planet undeveloped as nature preserves. Dense O'Leary sneers at him, but I can't actually find an argument in her babble.

linky

She brings a whole new meaning to "blithering".

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2014,00:30   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 30 2014,18:42)
E.O. Wilson says we should leave half the planet undeveloped as nature preserves. Dense O'Leary sneers at him, but I can't actually find an argument in her babble.

linky

It's right there, plain as the nose on your face:  
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We can take it from Wilson’s half, but for sure not mine.


Edited by CeilingCat on Aug. 31 2014,00:31

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2014,17:26   

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E.O. Wilson says we should leave half the planet undeveloped as nature preserves.

That makes sense, since after all, until the last few centuries, most of the habitable parts of the planet were undeveloped. So without detailed studies, one wouldn't know what or how many things that we depend on, that would be destroyed by turning a majority of it into farms, suburbs, or whatever.

Henry

  
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2014,19:56   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Aug. 30 2014,12:47)
Heh heh. 10^-4 is 'right in the middle' of a log scale! To base 10! Good job we've got 10 digits, or the world wouldn't be half so neat.

I do have one significant digit for Mr BA!

We have approximately 1.616 hands. And approximately 5.391 digits on each. 1.616 was also the height of Jesus in metres.

Also, if we express the speed of light in natural units, we see that science points to monotheism. Not even approximately, exactly.

Personally, I am amazed by the relationship between Washington Irving's phone number, the number of extant Native Americans, and the gravitational constant. For others, something as innocuous as a frozen waterfall can confirm their numerological suspicions.

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 01 2014,02:39   

Quote (Driver @ Aug. 31 2014,19:56)
Personally, I am amazed by the relationship between Washington Irving's phone number, the number of extant Native Americans, and the gravitational constant. For others, something as innocuous as a frozen waterfall can confirm their numerological suspicions.

Apostate!

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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 01 2014,03:07   

I tried to stay away from it. I did pretty well for awhile.
But then there was that one link embedded in that one blog post at that one blog site that I visited occasionally, and I thought 'Well, maybe the discussions have become more substantive since my last visit'.
One click and ... OH BABY WHAT A RUSH!*
Now I'm here for my methaTARD treatment.

ETA: *Ok, it wasnt so much a rush as it was 'same tard, different day, I feel really sleepy'

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 01 2014,07:28   

The definition of irrelevant. The views of CS Lewis on evolution. He has this ridiculous reputation in many Christian circles as a towering intellectual. Areas in which to ignore the opinions of CS Lewis: Science and philosophy. Areas in which to listen to the opinions of CS Lewis: Science Fiction and Fantasy.

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fusilier



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2014,07:32   

Quote (Driver @ Sep. 01 2014,08:28)
The definition of irrelevant. The views of CS Lewis on evolution. He has this ridiculous reputation in many Christian circles as a towering intellectual. Areas in which to ignore the opinions of CS Lewis: Science and philosophy. Areas in which to listen to the opinions of CS Lewis: Science Fiction and Fantasy.

Driver, have you actually ever read any of Lewis' fiction?

Daughters # 1 and #2 thought the Narnia stories were boring.  Of course they were reading The Enchanted Forest Chronicles in 4th grade.

"Out of the Silent Planet" wasn't too bad - no Stanley Weinbaum, but better than early John W. Campbell.  "Perelandra" was incredibly preachy and not worth much.

"That Hideous Strength" is accurately titled:  hideous.

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2014,12:55   

Quote (fusilier @ Sep. 02 2014,12:32)
Quote (Driver @ Sep. 01 2014,08:28)
The definition of irrelevant. The views of CS Lewis on evolution. He has this ridiculous reputation in many Christian circles as a towering intellectual. Areas in which to ignore the opinions of CS Lewis: Science and philosophy. Areas in which to listen to the opinions of CS Lewis: Science Fiction and Fantasy.

Driver, have you actually ever read any of Lewis' fiction?

Daughters # 1 and #2 thought the Narnia stories were boring.  Of course they were reading The Enchanted Forest Chronicles in 4th grade.

"Out of the Silent Planet" wasn't too bad - no Stanley Weinbaum, but better than early John W. Campbell.  "Perelandra" was incredibly preachy and not worth much.

"That Hideous Strength" is accurately titled:  hideous.

Loads. Loved the Narnia books as a kid, in fact I have read and enjoyed them as an adult. Paid no mind to the Christian parallels. I still pick up The Silver Chair now and again. It is only short but entertaining.

I read the Ransom books in my twenties and they were great fun. IIRC, ransom is a cross between a Jesus figure, Flash Gordon, and an oxbridge prof, which is hilariously vainglorious, and there is an exposition in there on heaven,  BUT if you treat it as just as mythical as you can LOTR, then overall the books are refreshingly different, exciting, beautifully descriptive in parts, passionate, and contain some neat (intentional) humour that saves them from being too bombastic. This review is over fifteen years old, mind you, but that trilogy has stayed with me.

The Screwtape Letters, letters written by a charming and urbane Devil,  are witty and lots of fun too. As far as I can remember, there is no attempt at a serious theological point.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2014,11:52   

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"...though 10 inches is good enough for most real work. KF"


Edited by Richardthughes on Sep. 03 2014,11:52

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2014,12:22   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 03 2014,17:52)
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"...though 10 inches is good enough for most real work. KF"

I needed a good laugh. Thanks!

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2014,16:10   

Corny Hunter posts something ordinary about cytoskeleton evolution, leading BatShit77 to post comments involving: Roger Penrose, entropy, deep time, information theory, Behe, death, gravity, Boltzmann, Planck's Christian Theism, C.S. Lewis, Romans 8:20-21, black holes, the quantum Zeno effect, the Shroud of Turin, Quantum Holograms, and multiple bacterial flagella.

He's like a Creationist Energizer Bunny gone berserk.

linky

   
Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2014,16:51   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 03 2014,15:10)
Corny Hunter posts something ordinary about cytoskeleton evolution, leading BatShit77 to post comments involving: Roger Penrose, entropy, deep time, information theory, Behe, death, gravity, Boltzmann, Planck's Christian Theism, C.S. Lewis, Romans 8:20-21, black holes, the quantum Zeno effect, the Shroud of Turin, Quantum Holograms, and multiple bacterial flagella.

He's like a Creationist Energizer Bunny gone berserk.

linky

Nice cataloging of BS77 irrelevancy...I admire your ability to trudge through it...but why is this any different than his usual scroll-wheel debilitating replies of C&P boilerplate that he's posted for years?

I'm sure it's the same old shit everyone knows he posts again and again and again. He should just use your keyword compilation above. It would be much quicker and someone might actually stop and read it.

Did he mention it was off-topic?

(BTW - Did you ever learn to chop onions efficiently?)

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2014,00:55   

Waterloo!!!!!11111

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2014,06:24   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 03 2014,16:10)
Corny Hunter posts something ordinary about cytoskeleton evolution, leading BatShit77 to post comments involving: Roger Penrose, entropy, deep time, information theory, Behe, death, gravity, Boltzmann, Planck's Christian Theism, C.S. Lewis, Romans 8:20-21, black holes, the quantum Zeno effect, the Shroud of Turin, Quantum Holograms, and multiple bacterial flagella.

He's like a Creationist Energizer Bunny gone berserk.

linky

Did he forget to reference Weikart on Darwin & Hitler, or did you have to withdraw because your shielding had degraded to a critical level?

  
socle



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2014,09:29   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 04 2014,00:55)
Waterloo!!!!!11111

Kinda like this:

erm..., I mean like this:

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2014,11:52   

Looks like they have to find another trial to lose.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2014,11:53   

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Sep. 03 2014,17:51)
(BTW - Did you ever learn to chop onions efficiently?)

oh hell yeah. I watched Jaques Pepin do it, and I can now dice an onion in <30 seconds.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2014,15:43   

Lawyer and Debt-Collector Genuinely Wonders How Those Atheists Could Be Ethical

snooze.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2014,17:10   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 04 2014,13:43)
Lawyer and Debt-Collector Genuinely Wonders How Those Atheists Could Be Ethical

snooze.

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I can understand how a theist who believes in the objective reality of ethical norms could apply for such a position in good faith. By definition he believes certain actions are really wrong and other actions are really right, and therefore he often has something meaningful to say.

"Something meaningful to say." = "Because I think god says so, that's why."
Which sect's objectively real ethical norms are the objectively realest, I wonder?  Perhaps we can have an objectively-real-ethical-norm-off.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2014,23:42   

ISIS guys would probably be effective employees at Barry Arrington's colletion agency. They're theists an know right from wtong.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2014,04:27   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 04 2014,21:43)
Lawyer and Debt-Collector Genuinely Wonders How Those Atheists Could Be Ethical

snooze.

Hmmmm, wonder if William J Murray will weigh in on this issue (scroll, scroll) ... ah yes, here he is. Yawn.  

and...

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AB:   Why can’t an atheist accept the job?

Mung: An atheist could accept the job, but they shouldn’t.


Honestly, these dickheads can be totally asinine. So let's give the job of clinical ethicist to a Jehovah's Witness. Or a faith healer. Or ... someone who just AGREES with WJM et al that there is an objective moral standard, and that's what they base their decisions on, whatever they may happen to be. I'd love to see one of their theistic ethicists try and justify his ethical position to someone of different or no faith. But then, who gives a shit what they think, right BA?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2014,04:43   

BjornAgain 77 apologises for adding an extra link to his Philip Johnson video in yet another of his C&P spamfests. That's priceless!

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2014,20:14   

Coffee spew!!!!

News:
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But the creationists still know more about evolution than [liberals] do, and always will. Because they want to know, that’s why.
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You can definitely learn more real evolution from creationists than from Darwin’s followers,...

jerry:
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Apparently you do not understand much either if you equate anything in population genetics with evolution.
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I am not belittling population genetics, just putting it in its place. It explains trivial things in the evolution debate, that’s all.

drc466:
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Logic alone would insist that creationists, who self-identify as such because they are involved in the CvE issue, would know more than “liberals”, who may or may not have any interest in CvE.


ETA:http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....olution

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2014,16:11   

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Reciprocating BillSeptember 5, 2014 at 10:01 am

AnimatedDust:
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Why do you keep playing tennis?
Barry:
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We play for the lurkers, and they…are the ultimate beneficiaries when we knock the atheists’ arguments out of the park again and again.

I think I see the problem.


HAHAHAHAHA.

linky

   
socle



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2014,16:29   

omg, that's hilarious.

  
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