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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,16:48   

Quote (keiths @ July 09 2009,16:41)
Hey Casey,

It seems like you've forgiven everyone but me.  I feel left out.  You even forgave Wes and Tiana Dietz twice.  What do I have to do to be granted your forgiveness?  If I call you a sanctimonious douchebag, will you forgive me?  Oh, wait -- that would be true, so there would be no need for forgiveness.

Never mind.

keiths... You go calling Casey a "sanctimonius douchbag" and he'll make you a BFF.  I think that is   the nicest thing anybody has ever called him. :)

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,16:48   

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I'm hanging up this phone right now 'cause you have made an illegal action against me and I appreciate your time.

qdragon1337,

Thank you for taking the time to pwn me.  I appreciate it.

Love,
Casey

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,16:58   

J-Dog,

I think you may be on to something.  If Casey forgives everyone, maybe one of these days someone will be moved by the gesture, and then Casey will have a friend of his very own, like all of the other kids.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,17:00   

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,17:07   

Quote (ERV @ July 09 2009,17:00)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

times infinity.

Casey...it's great to know that your bullshit is captured online for decades to come. You'll be long dead and your bullshit will live on, indicting you and your masters, you toothless butt-sniffing fuckin' teacup poodle

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,17:11   

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,17:15   

Quote (ERV @ July 09 2009,17:00)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thanks for the link and the kind words!  We only do it as partial payment for you making Dembski cry and making Behe stamp his feet and throw a hissy fit.

Ah - Good times!

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,17:25   

Quote (Henry J @ July 09 2009,15:11)
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Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys entertains them so much.

Fixed that for you.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,17:32   

Lot of misinformation, you say? So, where are the updated honest-to-Designer facts about this youtube debacle?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,17:36   

Quote (Robert O'Brien @ Nov. 20 2006,23:07)
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Was the Ford Pinto, with all its imperfections revealed in crash tests, not designed?


...

It is obviously Intelligent Design. It's also obvious that the intelligent designers cared more about making money then the safety of  the passengers of the Pinto.

The question is, if it is ID, what does it say about the character of the Designer ?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,18:51   

Casey Luskin:

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If this gets posted you should be aware that I, my understanding is that it is illegal to record a phone call without somebody's knowledge, or letting them know about that first, so I'm going to hang up this phone because you have done something illegal, hope you have a nice day, I have no ill will against you, and I forgive you for the illegal action that you have [unintelligible] today.


Casey, perhaps you ought to have a word with fellow IDC advocate Forrest Mims on whether publication of recordings taken without permission are a bad thing or not.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,18:53   

Quote (keiths @ July 09 2009,16:58)
J-Dog,

I think you may be on to something.  If Casey forgives everyone, maybe one of these days someone will be moved by the gesture, and then Casey will have a friend of his very own, like all of the other kids.

Having seen him perform in person, all I can say is that he wields forgiveness like a cudgel and delivers it with all the gusto of Master Thespian.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,18:57   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ July 09 2009,18:51)
Casey Luskin:

 
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If this gets posted you should be aware that I, my understanding is that it is illegal to record a phone call without somebody's knowledge, or letting them know about that first, so I'm going to hang up this phone because you have done something illegal, hope you have a nice day, I have no ill will against you, and I forgive you for the illegal action that you have [unintelligible] today.


Casey, perhaps you ought to have a word with fellow IDC advocate Forrest Mims on whether publication of recordings taken without permission are a bad thing or not.

Wasn't Luskin a lawyer, or am I thinking of someone else?  Of course, the legality of taping a conversation varies from state to state (and by country too), so his threat is probably empty.  I am also not sure if the legality only applies towards admissibility as evidence or if the taping itself is considered illegal.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,20:19   

Quote (Badger3k @ July 09 2009,16:57)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ July 09 2009,18:51)
Casey Luskin:
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If this gets posted you should be aware that I, my understanding is that it is illegal to record a phone call without somebody's knowledge, or letting them know about that first, so I'm going to hang up this phone because you have done something illegal, hope you have a nice day, I have no ill will against you, and I forgive you for the illegal action that you have [unintelligible] today.

Casey, perhaps you ought to have a word with fellow IDC advocate Forrest Mims on whether publication of recordings taken without permission are a bad thing or not.

Wasn't Luskin a lawyer, or am I thinking of someone else?  Of course, the legality of taping a conversation varies from state to state (and by country too), so his threat is probably empty.  I am also not sure if the legality only applies towards admissibility as evidence or if the taping itself is considered illegal.

Luskin is a lawyer, but given his performance as DI attack gerbil, I wouldn't conclude that he knows anything about the law.

In-state phone calls in Washington cannot be recorded without the consent of both parties.  However, qdragon1337 was calling from Canada. Presumably, federal law applies in that case. Under federal law, the consent of only one party is required. However, a couple of the sites I consulted caution that it is unclear whether federal law preempts state law in these cases.

For example:
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Recording Telephone Calls with Parties in Different Jurisdictions

Federal law may apply when the conversation is between parties who are in different states, although it is unsettled whether a court will hold in a given case that federal law "pre-empts" state law, but either state may choose to enforce its own laws. Therefore it is better to err on the side of caution when recording an interstate telephone call.

And as we all know, Canada is really just the 51st state.

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didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,21:13   

keiths, in Canada they only require one-party consent:
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Interception of Communications

Interception

184. (1) Every one who, by means of any electro-magnetic, acoustic, mechanical or other device, wilfully intercepts a private communication is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

Saving provision

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to

(a) a person who has the consent to intercept, express or implied, of the originator of the private communication or of the person intended by the originator thereof to receive it;


There're probably some other laws that could apply in particular circumstances, but I am not a Canadian lawyer.

Still, even if Casey could manage to get the kid charged in the US, I have trouble believing that anything much would come of it.  Casey would also look like a ridiculously petty and giant dick who was picking on a disabled 15-yr old in retaliation for being exposed, yet again, as a dumbass.  I would dearly love to see him try, though.  *crosses fingers*

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,23:53   

http://www.caseyluskin.com/facts.htm

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Greetings. My name is Casey Luskin. Thanks for visiting my website. I am an attorney who works in Seattle, Washington as Program Officer in Public Policy & Legal Affairs with The Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture.


He's a Program Offer in legal affairs, but doesn't know about the false DMCA claims. Okay. Jebus weeps.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,00:02   

from my rather limited skillset of personal observation it was apparent that the unibrowed little queef was lying his ass off about the DCMA whatevers.

i can't wait to see the stuffed shirt jesus throbber DI response to this.  absolutely brilliant pwnage and i enjoyed it over and over.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,06:29   

Sorry folks but I'm failing to see the big deal here.

Legal issues of recordings aside, some internet kid phoned up a proven liar and promoter of lies and said proven liar and promoter of lies lied again. Film at 11. Dog bites man. Dogs and cats still living separately, mass apathy. Sure Lasey Cuskin's* "I forgivemerise you" routine is hilarious, and hilariously sanctimonious and hypocritical, but isn't this standard fare? Wake me when someone catches him in a compromising position with a donkey or telling the truth.

Louis

* I still maintain this JADerisation of Casey's name makes him sound like an obscure, specialist merkin, which in effect he is. After all what else is he for than the covering up of a rather wilted dick (i.e. the efforts and output of the DI)?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,06:57   

Quote (Louis @ July 10 2009,06:29)
Sorry folks but I'm failing to see the big deal here.

Legal issues of recordings aside, some internet kid phoned up a proven liar and promoter of lies and said proven liar and promoter of lies lied again. Film at 11. Dog bites man. Dogs and cats still living separately, mass apathy. Sure Lasey Cuskin's* "I forgivemerise you" routine is hilarious, and hilariously sanctimonious and hypocritical, but isn't this standard fare? Wake me when someone catches him in a compromising position with a donkey or telling the truth.

Louis

* I still maintain this JADerisation of Casey's name makes him sound like an obscure, specialist merkin, which in effect he is. After all what else is he for than the covering up of a rather wilted dick (i.e. the efforts and output of the DI)?

After Luskin claimed that the issue was being misrepresented, the kid should have asked what the real facts were, as it is he let Luskin off the hook several times.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,08:29   

Quote (afarensis @ July 10 2009,06:57)
After Luskin claimed that the issue was being misrepresented, the kid should have asked what the real facts were, as it is he let Luskin off the hook several times.

Afe - You should invite the kid here - we could educate him and look forward to round 2 of kid vs. douche!

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,08:36   

Quote (keiths @ July 09 2009,16:41)
Casey Luskin and the forgiveness reflex:
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In the end, I can cheerfully forgive Kevin Beck...

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[To Tiana Dietz]:
I get called unjustified names all the time on the ‘net and so I made my peace with such people and such incidents long ago; so I’m not angry about this, and as I said in my prior e-mail to you, I forgive you.

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[Second email to Tiana Dietz]:
Regardless of where you choose to go from here, I want you to know that I forgive you, I wish you the best in your life, and I also hope, for your own sakes that you can join the culture of civility and friendship that is very real and very vibrant.

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In one single forum at Antievolution.org, created and owned by a former National Center for Science Education staff member, I have been called no less than “Bizarre ignoramus,” “retarded,” “suck-up,” “Pathetic Loser,” “attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy,” “an orc,” “Annoying,” “a miserable loser with no life,” “an idiot,” “dishonest,” “ignorant cheap poxied floozie,” “fanatic and lunatic,” “A proven liar,” “incompetent,” and many other far more colorful attacks which are probably best left unprinted here on Evolution News and Views.

I don’t list this example to complain — I happily forgive those who have attacked me...

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Dear all,

I could say much in defense of myself here, but this is neither the time nor the appropriate venue to do so.  In this regard, I have one, and only one post to make, and one, and only one thing to say: I forgive you all for how you have treated me here, and most of all I forgive Wesley Elsberry and Steve Story.

Sincerely,

Casey Luskin

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But I forgive Wesley regardless of whether he does the right thing here, and I will continue to be nice to him in the future.

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[To qdragon1337]:
I'm hanging up this phone right now 'cause you have made an illegal action against me and I appreciate your time. If this gets posted you should be aware that I, my understanding is that it is illegal to record a phone call without somebody's knowledge, or letting them know about that first, so I'm going to hang up this phone because you have done something illegal, hope you have a nice day, I have no ill will against you, and I forgive you for the illegal action that you have [unintelligible] today. Have a nice day.  Thank you very much. Bye.


Hey Casey,

It seems like you've forgiven everyone but me.  I feel left out.  You even forgave Wes and Tiana Dietz twice.  What do I have to do to be granted your forgiveness?  If I call you a sanctimonious douchebag, will you forgive me?  Oh, wait -- that would be true, so there would be no need for forgiveness.

Never mind.

He whines like a beaten dog. What do they do to him at the DI?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,09:56   

Quote (tsig @ July 10 2009,08:36)
Quote (keiths @ July 09 2009,16:41)
Casey Luskin and the forgiveness reflex:
 
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In the end, I can cheerfully forgive Kevin Beck...

 
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[To Tiana Dietz]:
I get called unjustified names all the time on the ‘net and so I made my peace with such people and such incidents long ago; so I’m not angry about this, and as I said in my prior e-mail to you, I forgive you.

 
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[Second email to Tiana Dietz]:
Regardless of where you choose to go from here, I want you to know that I forgive you, I wish you the best in your life, and I also hope, for your own sakes that you can join the culture of civility and friendship that is very real and very vibrant.

 
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In one single forum at Antievolution.org, created and owned by a former National Center for Science Education staff member, I have been called no less than “Bizarre ignoramus,” “retarded,” “suck-up,” “Pathetic Loser,” “attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy,” “an orc,” “Annoying,” “a miserable loser with no life,” “an idiot,” “dishonest,” “ignorant cheap poxied floozie,” “fanatic and lunatic,” “A proven liar,” “incompetent,” and many other far more colorful attacks which are probably best left unprinted here on Evolution News and Views.

I don’t list this example to complain — I happily forgive those who have attacked me...

 
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Dear all,

I could say much in defense of myself here, but this is neither the time nor the appropriate venue to do so.  In this regard, I have one, and only one post to make, and one, and only one thing to say: I forgive you all for how you have treated me here, and most of all I forgive Wesley Elsberry and Steve Story.

Sincerely,

Casey Luskin

 
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But I forgive Wesley regardless of whether he does the right thing here, and I will continue to be nice to him in the future.

 
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[To qdragon1337]:
I'm hanging up this phone right now 'cause you have made an illegal action against me and I appreciate your time. If this gets posted you should be aware that I, my understanding is that it is illegal to record a phone call without somebody's knowledge, or letting them know about that first, so I'm going to hang up this phone because you have done something illegal, hope you have a nice day, I have no ill will against you, and I forgive you for the illegal action that you have [unintelligible] today. Have a nice day.  Thank you very much. Bye.


Hey Casey,

It seems like you've forgiven everyone but me.  I feel left out.  You even forgave Wes and Tiana Dietz twice.  What do I have to do to be granted your forgiveness?  If I call you a sanctimonious douchebag, will you forgive me?  Oh, wait -- that would be true, so there would be no need for forgiveness.

Never mind.

He whines like a beaten dog. What do they do to him at the DI?

Whatever it was before, after this I'm guessing it will not be "answering the phone".

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,13:29   

Quote (afarensis @ July 10 2009,06:57)
After Luskin claimed that the issue was being misrepresented, the kid should have asked what the real facts were, as it is he let Luskin off the hook several times.

Yep, "dragon" was close to getting PLushkin to say something a trifle more stupid than usual, if he'd pressed the point a bit more. Pretty good performance, though.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,14:54   

It's interesting how Casey's one refrain was that there was misinformation out there, without ever offering to provide the correct information. In this case, the actual DI letters to YouTube.

I'm not sure why the DI would sit on those if, as Casey implies, the letters make no false claims of coverage under DMCA. It would seem the simple, straightforward way to demonstrate that the DI was in the right... if they actually were in the right.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,14:57   

Its going to be happy-happy-party day here when the DI gets told off for breaking the law with false DMCA suits here..

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,14:58   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ July 10 2009,15:54)
It's interesting how Casey's one refrain was that there was misinformation out there, without ever offering to provide the correct information. In this case, the actual DI letters to YouTube.

I'm not sure why the DI would sit on those if, as Casey implies, the letters make no false claims of coverage under DMCA. It would seem the simple, straightforward way to demonstrate that the DI was in the right... if they actually were in the right.

its possible that he is so stupid that he doesn't understand the content of the letters

or he is so dishonest that he would never admit that they filed those claims knowing full well that they did not have any basis for doing so.

or both.

or perhaps casey is just the janitor up there.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,14:59   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 10 2009,15:57)
Its going to be happy-happy-party day here when the DI gets told off for breaking the law with false DMCA suits here..

how does that work out?

my understanding is that youtube is barraged with these suits every day and that many are fraudulent, yet they still pull the content pending resolution.  its like SLAPP only against media communication.

if the suits are thrown out or found lacking merit, is there a penalty for filing?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,15:45   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ July 10 2009,13:59)
if the suits are thrown out or found lacking merit, is there a penalty for filing?

If not there should be, imnsho. Not just the against the one pressing the suit, but also the lawyer, since they should know when the suit is bogus.

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,16:50   

i like it when you are not so humble henry

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(Permalink) Posted: July 10 2009,18:24   

Quote (raguel @ July 09 2009,12:43)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-K_VY6VZZw


hahahaha

heh heh, Casey Luskin, worst frontman in the universe.

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