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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,20:50   

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> 400 Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming: US Senate Report
DLH

... What can ID learn from these developments?

Hard to say. Were any of these scientists named Steve?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,20:51   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 20 2007,20:41)
Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Dec. 20 2007,17:25)
The sweater wears him.

"In Soviet Russia, dumpster behind K-mart pulls sweater out of you!"



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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,20:55   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 20 2007,21:51)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 20 2007,20:41)
   
Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Dec. 20 2007,17:25)
The sweater wears him.

"In Soviet Russia, dumpster behind K-mart pulls sweater out of you!"


Thank you sir.  For whatever reason, that is the second funniest thing I've witnessed this week, second only to this, from Kevin (ScaryFacts here).

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,21:00   

Holy shit, I keep forgetting:

HAPPY SECOND ANNIVERSARY DOVER DECISION!

YAY!

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Annyday



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,21:04   

I think, between AtBCers mocking his every step and UD commenters straying off-message with no regard for appearance, that Daveyboy just couldn't keep the faith in the old and blusteringly superior ID. He still believes in some kind of divine creation, but the explanatory filter, like a broken condom, has stopped fulfilling its function and is only ruining the experience for him at this point.

So instead: HA HA DARWINISTS ARE STUPID! LOOK AT ALL THIS STUPID STUFF! ALSO WE SHOULD JUST STOP THINKING ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED MORE THAN A FEW THOUSAND YEARS AGO! DEEP TIME IS A MYTH SINCE THE EARTH IS SIX THOUSAND YEARS OLD! JUST-SO STORIES, ALSO BEHE SAID THIS ONCE!

He's not even trying any more 'cause he's advocating raw ignorance. Oh yeah!

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,21:44   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/educati....heories

Grandma Dingbat is so excited about this letter to the editor to the IndyStar:

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Gordon Rose
Let's open minds, textbooks to intelligent design theories
Intricacies of Earth life-forms, microscopes challenge evolution ideas


microscopes? What's going on here?
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In our school systems today, science, with its dramatic and continual advancement in knowledge, has to be one of the most interesting as well as important subjects being taught.

Strangely enough, it is here that we are teaching unchallenged, the biggest lie in education -- the theory of evolution.

What a tard.
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Not that the theory shouldn't be taught -- it should, simply because it is believed to be true by so many scientists. But the latest research with modern tools such as the electron microscope, have ruled out any possibility of life on our planet occurring by accident.


I would love to see some of the electron microscope images he's referring to.
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Modern, competent scientists can show that the unbelievable complexity of design of the human cell, for example, demands the acknowledgement of a designer, or an intelligence far higher than anything we can imagine.


'A few fanatical lawyers and philosophers with fax machines' =/= 'modern, competent scientists with modern tools'
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Unfortunately for our students, those in control of the science curriculum have defined science in such a narrow way that only the theory of evolution is allowed to be considered as the explanation for all of the varied life forms on Earth.



Ain't nobody gonna stand up for Jesus?
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They do this by demanding a "natural" explanation for the evidence before us, rather than the most "logical" explanation of the evidence. That is the only way they can keep the pseudo-science of evolution going and being unchallenged in the classroom. Critical examination of the theory itself is not found in high school textbooks, and therefore not discussed as part of the course study. Why not?


I know! Why aren't creationist lies taught as truth? The nerve.
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The bacterial flagellum, for example, is so small that more than 1,000 could fit in the period at the end of this sentence. Its propulsion system consists of dozens of interactive components clearly designed and functioning together as a variable-speed, reversible, rotary motor

Hell I bet it even says Evenruud on the side!
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capable of turning 100,000 revolutions per minute. That is 10 times faster than a NASCAR race engine!



Argumentum ad NASCAR? Somebody call Mark Isaak. (Don't call Mark Isaak)
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And, it can stop and reverse itself in one-quarter of a turn!
Common sense -- good, logical reasoning -- tells us that this did not come about by accident.

Common sense is wrong. Welcome to Science 101.
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But our kids in school are required to believe it did, simply because close-minded educators in control of curriculum are afraid to admit a higher intelligence had to be involved . . . and this lies outside their blind, self-imposed restriction which says they must only explain it by "natural" causes. So they teach a lie instead.
The "religious" smokescreen that die-hard evolutionists keep using is keeping our kids from developing their critical thinking skills and learning truth in science.



That should be Truth in Science, I think.
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Instead, they are force-fed a canned, preordained theory that sounded good back in 1859, but does not stand up to the rigorous research and testing of the 21st century.


A preordained theory? What does he mean preordained? And a canned theory? What's this guy trying to say?

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Gordon Rose is a retired field engineer with NCR.


I am Steve's complete lack of surprise.

If we could somehow give Gordon an IQ implant, it would have been a much shorter letter.

"Hi, I'm Gordon Rose. I'm a biology layman, and all the biology experts in the world disagree with me about a fundamental idea in biology. Maybe thousands of experts know more than my dumb ass. I think I'll just STFU."

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,22:30   

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Gordon Rose is a retired field engineer with NCR.


This was discussed earlier this week. It appears to mean 'retired cash register repairman'.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,23:19   

LOL this is a nice play-by-play on Pharyngula

You Bastards!

   
freeyrmnd



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2007,23:44   

Why do we worry about those who believe in God. Let them believe in their fairy tale? Aren't we insecure in our beliefs if we spend all this time battling them? What do you think?

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,00:04   

Quote (freeyrmnd @ Dec. 20 2007,23:44)
Why do we worry about those who believe in God. Let them believe in their fairy tale? Aren't we insecure in our beliefs if we spend all this time battling them? What do you think?

You don't know much about what's going on, or who is doing what for which reason, do you?

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,00:07   

Wes, I started to post a pic of you in response to Freeyrmind, but I've got the vague feeling he's John A. Davison.

Call it Moderator's Instinct.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,00:13   

Quote (freeyrmnd @ Dec. 21 2007,00:44)
Why do we worry about those who believe in God. Let them believe in their fairy tale? Aren't we insecure in our beliefs if we spend all this time battling them? What do you think?

Lord Monar...that ring a bell with anyone?

   
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,00:35   

I think DaveScot is getting himself warmed up again:
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-157416
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DaveScot

12/20/2007

4:17 am

Mike Gene is a shrinking violet. He carefully hides his identity so his notions about ID can’t be used to blemish his reputation (whatever that reputation might be). While I admire his thinking on the subject to some extent I don’t have any respect for the man (or possibly woman) himself. His rejection of ID as science is par for the course - my guess is he’s covering his ass in case his boss or peers find out what he’s been doing in his secret life. No doubt he appeals to many Western Europeans. Western Europe has lost its backbone and has become a continent full of shrinking violets. I’m guessing the United States will have to rescue it yet again in the not too distant future when the Muslim horde successfully takes it over.

It's like he's covalescing from a long illness.  It's not the Dave of old, but it's a good sign, so we should all smile and say encouraging things to him - he'll be back to his old self in no time etc. etc.

Bob

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,00:36   

Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 19 2007,09:45)
I claim that Dover came about because the judge was activist

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the death of the scientific theory of intelligent design because of a court ruling by an activist federal judge in Pennsylvania.

Posted by Robert Crowther on December 19, 2007 10:03 AM


Amadan wrote Robert Dum-Dum Crowther's lyrics 20 minutes before Dum-Dum himself.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,00:39   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 21 2007,01:35)
I think DaveScot is getting himself warmed up again:
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-157416
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32

DaveScot

12/20/2007

4:17 am

Mike Gene is a shrinking violet. He carefully hides his identity so his notions about ID can’t be used to blemish his reputation (whatever that reputation might be). While I admire his thinking on the subject to some extent I don’t have any respect for the man (or possibly woman) himself. His rejection of ID as science is par for the course - my guess is he’s covering his ass in case his boss or peers find out what he’s been doing in his secret life. No doubt he appeals to many Western Europeans. Western Europe has lost its backbone and has become a continent full of shrinking violets. I’m guessing the United States will have to rescue it yet again in the not too distant future when the Muslim horde successfully takes it over.

It's like he's covalescing from a long illness.  It's not the Dave of old, but it's a good sign, so we should all smile and say encouraging things to him - he'll be back to his old self in no time etc. etc.

Bob

Whoo. That is some hardcore Davetard. MikeGene is a shrinking violet not because he's scared of his bosses but because he's familiar with science, and nobody who's familiar with science could mistake this for useful science.

Hey Davetard, get back to stapling those Alan Keyes for President signs and leave the adults alone, ok?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,01:12   

Full confession time - I'm a blog pimp.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/science....-157678

Thanks Falan Ox for the blog design, and JAD for the content.

Bob

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,01:24   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/the-des....contest
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21 December 2007
EXPELLED Sticker Contest
William Dembski

In my last post, I mentioned the prospect that THE DESIGN OF LIFE would, with the help of our Darwinist friends, become a companion volume to Ben Stein’s EXPELLED: NO INTELLIGENCE ALLOWED (www.expelledthe movie.com — check out also www.getexpelled.com).

In the event that THE DESIGN OF LIFE becomes such a companion volume, a colleague sent me a sticker that could be put on it. Here is that sticker:

EXPELLED Sticker

I like it, but frankly I think we can do better. I’m therefore offering a $100 prize to anyone who can come up with a better sticker (receipt of payment for the prize cedes copyright to me). The sticker needs to be posted online as a jpeg with a link in the comments to this thread. For now, the sticker should only publicize EXPELLED (explicit connection with DoL as a companion volume can be done later). The contest extends through February 12th, 2008 — Darwin’s birthday and the official release date of EXPELLED.

Come on folks, surely one of you will win $100.  You'll be able to buy a bottle of Scotch with it!

EDIT (not for FtK's benefit): Men - careful how how you stretch when there's a cat sat in your lap.  The push-off from
his back legs as he escapes can be, um, painful.

Bob

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,05:21   

In a tread titled Practical Biology (Not) DaveScot pokes fun at actual scientists doing actual research
 
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Yet another ancestor to modern whales is hypothesized. It’s hard to believe people get paid to produce stuff like this.

Somebody then asks DaveScot  
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Can someone here offer an ID-based hypothesis for the origin of cetaceans with at least as much explanatory power as the comparative anatomical approach described in the article?

And DaveScot's reply is a classic:
 
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Sure. The genetic code of modern whales existed in a repressed form in the cell line leading to whales. An environmental trigger in the distant past caused a chromosome reorganization to occur which in turn led to a saltation. This is in complete accord with the indisputable testimony of the fossil record which of course is a record of abrupt emergence of radically new phenotypes followed by long periods of stability in the new phenotype and in the vast majority of cases extinction of the new phenotype after an average of 10 million years with all but a small fraction of these leaving no successor species.

Lets examine that in detail
 
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The genetic code of modern whales existed in a repressed form in the cell line leading to whales.

Proof = DaveScot said so.
Further research = Not applicable
 
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An environmental trigger in the distant past caused a chromosome reorganization to occur which in turn led to a saltation.

Proof = DaveScot said so.
Further research = Not applicable
 
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This is in complete accord with the indisputable testimony of the fossil record

Proof = DaveScot said so.
Further research = Not applicable

Many things are in accord with the indisputable testimony of the fossil record. FTK, please note that DaveScot at least accepts the fossil record as "indisputable" and therefore the earth is not 6000 years old.

The rest of DS's post above simply describes what the fossil record shows, nothing to do with ID or any ID research or evidence for ID. ID cannot explain why the fossil record shows an abrupt emergence of radically new phenotypes as that would require putting motivation's to the designer (it could have just as easily done it gradually as abruptly, who can say). So no info on why it was done that way, it just was

The rest of DaveScot's post is worth a repost
 
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Perhaps when we understand more about genomes we’ll find these hidden potentials in extant genomes, learn how they are stored and conserved for the future, how they are eventually expressed in saltation events, and what external or internal triggers cause the saltations.

Translation:
Perhaps when real working scientists understand more about genomes they'll be able to rule out once and for all these hidden potentials in extant genomes and disprove front loading even to the satisfaction of "people" like DaveScot and JAD.

 
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This is the front-loaded ID hypothesis. Phylogenesis mirrors ontogenesis in that both are a series of derepressions of existing genomic information. Both occur according to a set plan where chance plays little if any role and the environment supplies cues (triggers) for proceeding (or not) from one phase of the plan to the next. Both are self-terminating when the preprogrammed path of diversification has completed.

Proof = DaveScot said so.
Further research = Not applicable
Translation: It’s hard to believe people get paid to produce stuff like this.
Lastly
 
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Nothing in the fossil record makes sense except in the light of front-loading.

Oh
 
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Nothing in the fossil record makes sense except in the light of front-loading evolution.

There, fixed that for you DaveScot.

It seems that they think if they repeat it enough times
it becomes true.
Link to latest rich vein in the tard-mine.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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Annyday



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,06:28   

Dave's back! Dave's back and he's recovered from the humiliation of mistaking replications for generations! We have our DaveScot back!

I suspect he's playing mad libs with a speech or two from someone else, but I don't care. That's the Daveyboy we know and love.

... also, his "extant genomes" line is basically an admittance that "we have no evidence for this, we're just guessing and hoping to find out we were right in the future". It's a half-baked hypothesis at best.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,06:41   

Quote (Annyday @ Dec. 21 2007,06:28)
Dave's back! Dave's back and he's recovered from the humiliation of mistaking replications for generations! We have our DaveScot back!

I suspect he's playing mad libs with a speech or two from someone else, but I don't care. That's the Daveyboy we know and love.

... also, his "extant genomes" line is basically an admittance that "we have no evidence for this, we're just guessing and hoping to find out we were right in the future". It's a half-baked hypothesis at best.

Exactly so.
What gets me is the line:
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This is in complete accord with the indisputable testimony of the fossil record


Unicorns in UFO's planting "information" and "new body plans" into the biosphere is also in complete accord with the indisputable testimony of the fossil record. So what.

Replace "unicorns" with "sky-beasts" if you like, but the end effect is the same. They just can't get over the fact that you could invent story upon story and it'd have as much relevance as "front-loading".

And they call evolution a "darwinian fairy tale/just so story". DaveScot should take a look at his own output if he wants to see a proper "just so story".

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,07:45   

What also amuses me is that when DaveScot says
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Sure. The genetic code of modern whales existed in a repressed form in the cell line leading to whales.

It's equally applicable to anything at all, for example
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Sure. The genetic code of modern unicorns existed in a repressed form in the cell line leading to unicorns.

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Sure. The genetic code of modern trampolines existed in a repressed form in the cell line leading to trampolines .

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Sure. The genetic code of modern mimes existed in a repressed form in the cell line leading to mimes.

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Sure. The genetic code of modern lions existed in a repressed form in the cell line leading to lions.


Does this mean I'm an ID Scientist now?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,08:25   

Is anyone else getting a vibe of "how pathetic" from the sticker contest?

Seriously, Ben Stein is trying to ride the coat-tails of ID to make a bunch of money.  The Design of Life is trying to ride the coat-tails of Expelled in order to sell.  Now Dembski notes in his sticker contest -

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I’m therefore offering a $100 prize to anyone who can come up with a better sticker (receipt of payment for the prize cedes copyright to me).


There's something horribly sad about this.  I'm just having trouble articulating it.

(Frost almost hits on it though.)

Quote (Frost122585 @ 12/21/2007 6:14 am)
$100!!! All of those books you sell and $100 is all your gonna offer- well im gonna send you an intelligent design so good you’ll pay me $1000 for it.
Also real quick- on the issue of books- Why dont you have The Design of Life advertised on this web page?I think that would be a good idea.


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,08:27   

Well, Dave's sold me--I'm sure all of his logically-rigorous predictions are soon to be vindicated.  Somebody should probably alert T. Ryan Gregory about the impending revolution in Genomics.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,08:31   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 21 2007,08:25)
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I’m therefore offering a $100 prize to anyone who can come up with a better sticker (receipt of payment for the prize cedes copyright to me).


There's something horribly sad about this.  I'm just having trouble articulating it.

You mean besides the fact that he wants to claim the copyright on merchandise associated with someone else's movie?  Of course, I am sure he has already inked the licensing agreement........

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,08:40   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 21 2007,08:31)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 21 2007,08:25)
   
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I’m therefore offering a $100 prize to anyone who can come up with a better sticker (receipt of payment for the prize cedes copyright to me).

There's something horribly sad about this.  I'm just having trouble articulating it.

You mean besides the fact that he wants to claim the copyright on merchandise associated with someone else's movie?  Of course, I am sure he has already inked the licensing agreement........

You mean besides the fact that bundling a textbook with a movie doesn't exactly spell "marketing genius"?

I think they should bundle DT action figures, or sternbergers, or Behe bobbleheads. But not a textbook. That will definitely kill the movie sales...

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,08:46   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 21 2007,09:31)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 21 2007,08:25)
 
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I’m therefore offering a $100 prize to anyone who can come up with a better sticker (receipt of payment for the prize cedes copyright to me).


There's something horribly sad about this.  I'm just having trouble articulating it.

You mean besides the fact that he wants to claim the copyright on merchandise associated with someone else's movie?  Of course, I am sure he has already inked the licensing agreement........

It's even bigger than that.

It's like,

He wants to claim the copyright on merchandise created by someone else and associated with someone else's movie that's based on someone else's idea with a small amount of input from him (that also was based on someone else's idea) at some point in the distant past in order to sell a book to convince teenagers to support him because people credible in the relevant fields are laughing at him.

And he's offering $100 bucks.

And the rubes aren't even insulted.

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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,08:49   

Could a puppet ask the obvious to Jerry?
 
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That is why Behe’s Edge of Evolution was so important. It exposed the emperor clothes-less situation. There are tons of studies that refute the current paradigm and none that support it. Apparently you are missing the science involved.

Perhaps a link to these "tons of studies" instead of just claiming they exist would persuade us that they really exist outside of Jerry's mind?

Jerry, links please! Please note books do not equal studies.

tard

EDIT: DS has his amazon review up. Link

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,10:34   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Dec. 21 2007,08:40)
You mean besides the fact that bundling a textbook with a movie doesn't exactly spell "marketing genius"?

I think they should bundle DT action figures, or sternbergers, or Behe bobbleheads. But not a textbook. That will definitely kill the movie sales...

I did manage to find Dave and Denyse action figures.

EDIT: Can't embed image link, so will have to do with URLs.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,10:39   

Quote (Davetard @ The Deepest Abyss of Tard)
The genetic code of modern whales existed in a repressed form in the cell line leading to whales. An environmental trigger in the distant past caused a chromosome reorganization to occur which in turn led to a saltation. This is in complete accord with the indisputable testimony of the fossil record which of course is a record of abrupt emergence of radically new phenotypes followed by long periods of stability...

OK, so one day the genetic code of one species reorganized itself and poof, a new species.  Hmmm.  So mom and dad were, hippos or, say, deer, but baby pops out and it's....a whale?  I hope mom was standing near the shoreline.

How is a "saltation" event different from a cat giving birth to a dog, or any of the other absurd examples IDiots like to say evolution requires?  It looks like D'Tard thinks we might still get our "dat."  Won't the UD faithful be surprised when they realize ID predicted that!  Big tent indeed.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,10:40   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 21 2007,08:25)
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I’m therefore offering a $100 prize to anyone who can come up with a better sticker (receipt of payment for the prize cedes copyright to me).


There's something horribly sad about this.  I'm just having trouble articulating it.

A content creator can grant publication rights to another party. "Ceding" copyright? Have we got any IP professionals listening in?

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