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Peter Henderson Posts: 298 Joined: Aug. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2010,13:13    Anisotropic Synchrony Convention has apparently solved the distant starlight problem for YECs. From Dr. Jason Lisle: http://www.answersingenesis.org/article....vention Quote We here explore a way in which light from distant galaxies can reach earth within the biblical timescale. Though the universe is created mature, we will ?nd that this by itself appears to be insuf?cient to explain our ability to see distant events, prompting the need for a solution to the “distant starlight problem.” The concept of synchrony conventions in physics is examined. The fact that relativistic physics precludes an absolute, invariant synchrony space is reviewed. We then explore the consequences and motivation for the use of the standard Einstein synchrony convention, followed by an investigation of alternative synchrony conventions. In particular, we ?nd that an observer-centric anisotropic synchrony convention eliminates the distant starlight problem by reducing radially inward-directed light travel-time in the reference frame of the observer to zero. Such a convention implies that everything in the universe has an age of a few thousand years as we currently see it. The biblical basis for such a convention is explored. Potential objections to this synchrony convention are considered. When the anisotropic synchrony convention is applied to standard cosmological parameters, a new young-universe cosmological model emerges which makes falsi?able predictions. I haven't a clue what he's on about, but I'd expect this to possibly be regurgitated time and time again by YECs when the problem of astronomical distances is raised. Has he usurped Russell Humphreys and John Hartnett ?

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2010,17:36    My understanding is that he is basically saying, "Humanity is in a privileged frame of reference and that the stars provided the light from their current position to Earth in zero time." sigh... in other words something supernatural happened. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2010,18:17    Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 22 2010,15:36) My understanding is that he is basically saying, "Humanity is in a privileged frame of reference and that the stars provided the light from their current position to Earth in zero time." sigh... in other words something supernatural happened. I think it's an example of creationists showing their scientific versatility.  Not only can they produce meaningless nonsense based on information theory or probability, they can do it with relativity too. Let's see: 1.  Relativity shows that simultaneity depends on frame of reference, Therefore if we: 2.  flap our arms wildly while exuding self-confidence, and given the fact that: 3.  at least 99% of our readers won't have a fucking clue what we're on about, but will be impressed with all the talk of light cones and the pictures with arrows on them, then: 4.  all the light from everywhere arrived here at the same time, goddidit, and the universe is only 6000 years old. All that remains now is for batshit77 to link to the youtube version. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2010,07:20    Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 22 2010,17:36) My understanding is that he is basically saying, "Humanity is in a privileged frame of reference and that the stars provided the light from their current position to Earth in zero time." sigh... in other words something supernatural happened. I rephrase that as saying the universe is 6000 years old in God years, where one year is like a couple of million, instead of the factor of 1 for 7 in dog years. -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

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