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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2013,21:25   

And he STILL can't even provide a link to a single bit of unambiguous evidence to support ID.

And yes, I've read the entire thread.  No, there's no evidence there.  There's a lot of JoeG crying about how it has to be a certain way, but hell, I could cry about how I should be the king of Siam, but there's evidence that I actually am.  

Keep crying Joe.  Someday, you'll grow up and join the rest of us in the real world.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,06:53   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 14 2013,21:25)
And he STILL can't even provide a link to a single bit of unambiguous evidence to support ID.

And yes, I've read the entire thread.  No, there's no evidence there.  There's a lot of JoeG crying about how it has to be a certain way, but hell, I could cry about how I should be the king of Siam, but there's evidence that I actually am.  

Keep crying Joe.  Someday, you'll grow up and join the rest of us in the real world.

Kevin is just a lying coward. I provided three links to positive evidence for ID.

You are a regular piece-of-shit, Kevin.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,06:54   

Quote (olegt @ Jan. 14 2013,20:19)
Wow! Joe speaketh in ALL CAPS! It must be something dear to his heart!

Wow! Joe was responding in kind, dumbass

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,06:57   

http://skepticink.com/humesap....5002261

the post:

Kevin,

You have been done for quite some time. You are quite the coward and liar-. Not only that you don't know what evidence is and couldn't assess it if it was sitting on you. You are NOT an investigator, you just don't have the knowledge nor the skills required.

Positive evidence for Intelligent Design, starting with the letter "A":

More Evidence for Intelligent Design in Biology Textbooks- the (proton
translocating) ATP Synthase (notice the word "More" which means other evidence came before it)

ATP Synthase- All Experiments Point to Design

Why ATP synthase is (positive) evidence for Intelligent Design


Now I know Kevin will say "That ain't no evidence (for ID)!!111!!1!" But he is just a spaz...


Everything in bold had a link to positive evidence for ID. And Kevin the coward choked on it, as predicted.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,06:59   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 14 2013,21:25)
And he STILL can't even provide a link to a single bit of unambiguous evidence to support ID.

And yes, I've read the entire thread.  No, there's no evidence there.  There's a lot of JoeG crying about how it has to be a certain way, but hell, I could cry about how I should be the king of Siam, but there's evidence that I actually am.  

Keep crying Joe.  Someday, you'll grow up and join the rest of us in the real world.

And Kevin STILL can't provide a link to a single piece of evidence that supports unguided, ie blind watchmaker, evolution.

So fuck you loser

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,08:20   

Once again, Joe, for the 1000th time.  You are the only one who believes in 'blind watchmaker / totally random' evolution.

Two, there is no actual evidence to support ID in those claims.  

Here's what you are saying...

"The moon orbits the Earth.  That's evidence that all astronomical bodies orbit the Earth."

This is your entire body of evidence Joe.

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Highly effiecient, irreducibly complex, and no way- physiochemcially to get the two subunits to come together-> there's no attraction and no coupling.


Yep, that's it "No way this can happen".  


 You do realize that the authors of the ATP paper don't agree with you, right?

You do realize that jumping to unwarranted conclusions is what you constantly yell at us for, right?

Here Joe: http://www.life.illinois.edu/crofts....F1.html

Yes, it's somewhat speculative, but at least science can actually look at the problem, conceive of a method to explore various solutions and examine them.  You, 'design' that's all.

More of the same.  Haven't done anything new in years.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,08:38   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 15 2013,08:20)
Once again, Joe, for the 1000th time.  You are the only one who believes in 'blind watchmaker / totally random' evolution.

Two, there is no actual evidence to support ID in those claims.  

Here's what you are saying...

"The moon orbits the Earth.  That's evidence that all astronomical bodies orbit the Earth."

This is your entire body of evidence Joe.

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Highly effiecient, irreducibly complex, and no way- physiochemcially to get the two subunits to come together-> there's no attraction and no coupling.


Yep, that's it "No way this can happen".  


 You do realize that the authors of the ATP paper don't agree with you, right?

You do realize that jumping to unwarranted conclusions is what you constantly yell at us for, right?

Here Joe: http://www.life.illinois.edu/crofts.....F1.html

Yes, it's somewhat speculative, but at least science can actually look at the problem, conceive of a method to explore various solutions and examine them.  You, 'design' that's all.

More of the same.  Haven't done anything new in years.

No, Kevin, blind watchmaker evolution is what the tehory of evolution is- as Richard Dawkins.

You are just a fucking cowardly liar.

Do you realize tat the authors of the ATP paper have no idea how unguided evolution can produce ATP synthase? they can't even produce a testable hypothesis for such a thing.

That said you don't know what evidence is. You couldn't conduct an investigation if your life depended on it.

ATP synthase is evidence for ID because blind and undirected chemical processes cannot account for it and it meets the design criteria.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,08:43   

And Kevin, your ignorant article on natural selection is a hoot. Natural selection is blind and mindless. So you would need to have a blind and mindless person selecting the dice from the shoebox.

The point is that you don't know anything about the theory of evolution and you think your ignorance means something.

Again Richard Dawkins said evolution is the blind watchmaker, not me. Jerry Coyne agrees with him. They are the high priests of evolutionism. OTOH YOU are an ignorant nobody.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,08:54   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2013,08:43)
And Kevin, your ignorant article on natural selection is a hoot. Natural selection is blind and mindless. So you would need to have a blind and mindless person selecting the dice from the shoebox.

The point is that you don't know anything about the theory of evolution and you think your ignorance means something.

Again Richard Dawkins said evolution is the blind watchmaker, not me. Jerry Coyne agrees with him. They are the high priests of evolutionism. OTOH YOU are an ignorant nobody.

blah blah blah...

Isn't it funny how you ignore all the things Dawkins and Coyne and all the other actual biologists say EXCEPT when they say something that you think supports your point of view.

Isn't it funny how how you don't realize that something that is mindless can create an exceedingly complex system.

Isn't it funny how you think aggression and yelling are better than actual evidence.

I notice that you don't refute the fact that your entire line of evidence is "No way".

In other words, Joe, you know you don't have shit and are just attacking to try and get away from it.  Joe, we've been talking for almost four years.  Don't you know that every single person here knows when you don't have shit?  Every single time you get called out on not having any evidence you switch from 'evidence of ID' to 'attacking evolution' mode.

It's really funny.  I'm not even sure if you are doing it consciously or unconsciously. But it happens every single time.  Go ahead, actually learn something for once.  Read this entire thread from start to finish.  Every time one of us demands evidence, look at what you say and do.  It's exactly as I have described.

You don't have any evidence.  You know it (at least sub-consciously), but you are so invested in your world-view that you can't admit it.  It's really sad.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,10:24   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 14 2013,15:01)
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LOL. I will take that as a yes.

You take it up the ass and you know it.

LOL

Well, that's evolutionary biology disproved, then.  Might as well go home.

Where are you planning to submit this for publication, Joe?  I'm thinking Nature.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,10:28   

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Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 14 2013,17:48)
Tell us about that Nazca Alien Landing Strip again, Joe.

Yup, when your butties are getting creamed, just bring up some irrelevant distraction.


Not necessarily. Maybe the Inca visitors were the designers. They used the Egyptian pyramids as their homing beacons. It all ties in.
"Stargate" was a documentary, you know.

 
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At least I have been to Nascar.

FTFY

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,11:21   

Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2013,11:24)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 14 2013,15:01)
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 14 2013,16:03)
LOL. I will take that as a yes.

You take it up the ass and you know it.

LOL

Well, that's evolutionary biology disproved, then.  Might as well go home.

Where are you planning to submit this for publication, Joe?  I'm thinking Nature.

fuck that something this momentuous deserves a whole new book of the bible

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,15:44   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 15 2013,09:21)
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2013,11:24)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 14 2013,15:01)
 
Quote (olegt @ Jan. 14 2013,16:03)
LOL. I will take that as a yes.

You take it up the ass and you know it.

LOL

Well, that's evolutionary biology disproved, then.  Might as well go home.

Where are you planning to submit this for publication, Joe?  I'm thinking Nature.

fuck that something this momentuous deserves a whole new book of the bible

For thus it is written in the Tardocalypse of Joe the Silly...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,19:27   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 13 2013,00:10)
 
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 09 2013,04:43)
Joe, on the 'WJM - atheists are dishonest, thick and/or irrational' thread
         
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I know how to test Intelligent Design evolution. And no one appears to know how to test blind watchmaker evolution.

Strange, that…

Care to reveal your methodology?

Already have- more than once, too.


How to test and falsify ID

That's bullshit, Joe. Dembski's Explanatory Filter - Newton's First Rule, for that matter - are no help to you here. You don't 'test ID' by attempting to demonstrate 'blind and undirected processes' doing evolution, regardless whether that attempt succeeds or fails.

You need a method of reliably distinguishing ID causes from 'natural' ones in biological history. You haven't got one.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2013,19:45   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 15 2013,19:27)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 13 2013,00:10)
 
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 09 2013,04:43)
Joe, on the 'WJM - atheists are dishonest, thick and/or irrational' thread
         
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I know how to test Intelligent Design evolution. And no one appears to know how to test blind watchmaker evolution.

Strange, that…

Care to reveal your methodology?

Already have- more than once, too.


How to test and falsify ID

That's bullshit, Joe. Dembski's Explanatory Filter - Newton's First Rule, for that matter - are no help to you here. You don't 'test ID' by attempting to demonstrate 'blind and undirected processes' doing evolution, regardless whether that attempt succeeds or fails.

You need a method of reliably distinguishing ID causes from 'natural' ones in biological history. You haven't got one.

And *suprise!* - ID is just a negative argument.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2013,08:03   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 15 2013,19:45)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 15 2013,19:27)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 13 2013,00:10)
   
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 09 2013,04:43)
Joe, on the 'WJM - atheists are dishonest, thick and/or irrational' thread
           
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I know how to test Intelligent Design evolution. And no one appears to know how to test blind watchmaker evolution.

Strange, that…

Care to reveal your methodology?

Already have- more than once, too.


How to test and falsify ID

That's bullshit, Joe. Dembski's Explanatory Filter - Newton's First Rule, for that matter - are no help to you here. You don't 'test ID' by attempting to demonstrate 'blind and undirected processes' doing evolution, regardless whether that attempt succeeds or fails.

You need a method of reliably distinguishing ID causes from 'natural' ones in biological history. You haven't got one.

And *suprise!* - ID is just a negative argument.

ID is a negative argument against a strawman analogy of what ID-proponents think is the actual science.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2013,18:53   

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Joe G January 20, 2013 at 7:08 AM

thortty boo-boo:
Yeah, but watching him scream and rant and fling his own poo gets boring pretty quickly.

Nice cowardly projection.

Look you loser- I could kick your ass in a fight and I could kick your ass in a scientific debate.

And I am willing to put up thousands of dollars to prove that both are true.

OTOH you are an ignorant coward who doesn't even understand the theory of evolution.


Tardtastic internet toughguy!

http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2013.......nt-form


ETA: More tardtastic internet toughguy joey in another thread at corny's site:

"But OK TWIT I will make you the same offer coardly thorton refused-

I will put up thousands of dollars to meet you for a fight and then a scientific debate."

http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2013....nt-form

And even more:

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Joe G January 21, 2013 at 7:12 AM

oleg dumbass:
You promised to come down many times already but haven't shown up once.

Yes, the thought of going to prison for wiping the streets of Baltimore with you, has been a deterent.


http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2013....nt-form

Edited by The whole truth on Jan. 21 2013,17:44

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2013,04:57   

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Joe G January 13, 2013 at 6:39 AM

And there is STILL more evidence for pyramids being antennas, reincarnation and ghosts than your position has.

I know that bothers you. Deal with it.


http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2013.......nt-form

If joey was reincarnated, who or what was he before?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2013,06:17   

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I will put up thousands of dollars to meet you for a fight and then a scientific debate."

That conjures up a hilarious image. Biff! Bam! Bash! Now, professor, as you dust yourself off: regarding the role of neutral processes in speciation ... oh, you want another piece of me?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2013,15:59   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 22 2013,06:17)
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I will put up thousands of dollars to meet you for a fight and then a scientific debate."

That conjures up a hilarious image. Biff! Bam! Bash! Now, professor, as you dust yourself off: regarding the role of neutral processes in speciation ... oh, you want another piece of me?

Is JoeJoe going to say that from a prone position?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2013,01:27   



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2013,13:59   

You guys want to see something freaking hilarious?

Go here and read the comments: skepticink.com/humanisticas/2013/01/24/catholic-hospital-argues-that-fetuses-are-not-people

I actually agree with Joe about a point and it brings him to frothing, drooling madness.  Also, he doesn't understand the entire point of two articles (I did one on the same subject, but he's banned from my blog), but that's not surprising.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2013,03:22   

Over on corny's site joey g said:

"How do we know people had the capability to build Stonehenge? Stonehenge."

Hey joey, how could people have built Stonehenge when it was actually built by reincarnated aliens from outer space with help from some ghosts? Oh, and would there be ghosts without electromagnetic force? Is electromagnetic force what holds ghosts together?


Something else that joey barfed up on corny's site:

"All papers that discuss ATP synthase, ribosomes, transcription and translation, bacterial flagellums, cilia- and on and on- are about Intelligent Design"

Hey joey, can you show where the authors of all of those papers attribute all of those things to "Intelligent Design"? And what exactly is included in "on and on"?

Edited by The whole truth on Jan. 26 2013,01:25

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2013,11:38   

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Oh, and would there be ghosts without electromagnetic force? Is electromagnetic force what holds ghosts together?

Only if they had magnetic personalities while alive.

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2013,14:03   

Ghosts are invariably bi-polar.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2013,16:03   

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Oh, and would there be ghosts without electromagnetic force? Is electromagnetic force what holds ghosts together?

Only if they had magnetic personalities while alive.

Henry

gluons, man... it's all about the gluons

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2013,21:01   

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Oh, and would there be ghosts without electromagnetic force? Is electromagnetic force what holds ghosts together?

Only if they had magnetic personalities while alive.

Henry

gluons, man... it's all about the gluons

Or ghoul-ons.   ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2013,04:30   

I donned my tard resistant boots and mask and ventured into the toxic sludge that is joey's blog. There I found this example of pompous, delusional stench:

"But anyway Kevin, if I get my say I am going to get a disclaimer read in biology classrooms stating that neither Intelligent Design nor YEC baraminology are anti-evolution (especially in the broad sense you use)- or maybe legislation to that effect."

I then heard a strange noise that sounded like bubbles in a bathtub, so I moved closer to the noise and heard this admission of joey "I'm not religious" g's true beliefs:

"Atheists are such a pathetic lot. Their lives, unfulfilled, they must invent stawman after strawman in order to feel substantiated."

As I plodded deeper into the sludge-pit joey's angry voice kept burping up from the festering muck to also reveal that evil and suffering leads to tooth decay. Undoubtedly 'the fall' is to blame.

As I made my way out of the dizzying cloud of noxious gas that emanates from joey's decayed assertions, I heard this nonsensical fart:

"But anyway it is hilarious that keiths thinks that just because God is  "all-knowing, all-powerful and perfectly loving", that everything God creates has to be perfect. It just doesn't follow."

It was a harrowing excursion into an extremely tardiferous place. The evil I encountered at joey's blog will likely cause me to suffer for a long while.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2013,07:41   

lastyearon:          
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How do you program the robot to identify designed objects?


Joe:      
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You program it to look for signs of counterflow-

     
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Counterflow refers to things running contrary to what, in the relevant sense, would (or might) have resulted or occurred had nature operated freely Del Ratzsch in “Nature, Design and Science” page 5


So, you look for stuff that ain't natural. Obvious, really.  

Joe's robot would soon hit upon these regular tracks. A little further on, a second set ... then a third ...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2013,11:32   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 15 2013,19:45)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 15 2013,19:27)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 13 2013,00:10)
   
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 09 2013,04:43)
Joe, on the 'WJM - atheists are dishonest, thick and/or irrational' thread
           
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I know how to test Intelligent Design evolution. And no one appears to know how to test blind watchmaker evolution.

Strange, that…

Care to reveal your methodology?

Already have- more than once, too.


How to test and falsify ID

That's bullshit, Joe. Dembski's Explanatory Filter - Newton's First Rule, for that matter - are no help to you here. You don't 'test ID' by attempting to demonstrate 'blind and undirected processes' doing evolution, regardless whether that attempt succeeds or fails.

You need a method of reliably distinguishing ID causes from 'natural' ones in biological history. You haven't got one.

And *suprise!* - ID is just a negative argument.

ID is just a negative argument in the minds of the willfully ignorant, like Richie.

The way I described the methodology involves a positive aspect also. Just as Newton said.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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