carlsonjok
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| Quote (Daevans @ Feb. 23 2010,00:38) | | I thought this pic best described most of the people who responded in this forum. So I edited your nonsense and put down what you really meant. |
It is really meant as more of a guide rather than a literal life span of an anti-evolutionist. You might say there is some random variation at work. However, I would suggest your quick transition to peevishness is a negative variation. But let me address several of your points.
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We saw what you wrote but what you really meant. |
We? Let's put our cards on the table here, shall we? Are you or are you not affiliated with the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. You don't have to reveal anything other than that. Just a simple yes or no.
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Step 2. What about this [insert anti-evolution argument thinly disguised as a question]? I am confused about how evolution explains that.
( I know exactly how Darwinism works; The goal of the materialist is to prove, by hook or crook, that nature can be explained by undirected processes is actually what is based on superstition and mysticism) |
I am going to make a statement. I don't think you have the first clue about all the evidence supporting evolution. I think, at best, you have read something like "Signature in the Cell" or "Explore Evolution" and have accepted them as true. Those books are filled with falsehoods and misrepresentations. The participants here could help expose those for you if you were interested. Which, you don't appear to be.
Given that you haven't actually asked a single question regarding science and, thus haven't, allowed the scientists here to share their knowledge, it seems pretty clear that you aren't interested in learning anything. Further, given that you haven't even attempted to make anything of a scientific argument, you aren't here to test your beliefs either. You appear to be here only to confront.
So, why are you here?
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Step 3. The actual working scientists here explain in detail the evidence disputing the argument in #2. They try to tailor the message to the person's knowledge level, but the anti-evolutionist is circumspect about what their level of scientific study and understanding is
( I really doubt if their are ANY working scientist here from the adolescent attacks, the rest you wrote is just crap. |
Actually, there are a number of working scientists and you have actually responded to them. Albatrossity2, Dr. GH, olegt, and Wesley Elsberry to name just four. But, you haven't given them the opportunity to respond or share any scientific information.
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Step 4. The anti-evolutionist drops the pretense of being curious and begin debating the point using the exact arguments found in one of the innumerable anti-evolution potboilers even though it is clear they don't have even the slightest understanding of the information that was painstakingly laid out for them in #3.
( As Professor Davison point out scientist don't debate. |
No, they educate. And you have given them no opportunity to do that by either asking an honest question or by advancing an idea for them to comment on.
| Quote | | I would say you miss understand my attention... again. |
Then explain exactly why you are here.
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I know Darwinian evolution is a ideology I don't need to question it's validity any longer, your attacks have delivered all the evidence I could ever wish for. |
Yesterday, you said "To accept ANY theory of such import without examining it and accepting its faults and inexactitude is irresponsible.". I would counter by saying that to reject any theory without examining it's supporting evidence is irresponsible. And you have yet to share anything to indicate that your examination of evolution has extended beyond reading one of the various anti-evolution novels.
Interestingly, Dr. GH has collected much of these books. We were going to do something on the Explore Evolution thread where someone would pick a random page and several of the participants here would read the page and point out all the falsehoods on that page. You game? What book you got?
Here is where I get a little confused, daevans. You say:
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( First let's be honest you don't speak for working scientist you speak for your own personal experience. You get upset with other scientist who question your "Ideology" which doesn't even qualify for a theory. |
then you say later:
| Quote | | ( I would further state Intelligent Design, like evolution, is a fact and a scientific theory, whether or not it has yet produced any successful rigorous predictive commodities that can reliably discern ID as the best explanation of a phenomena. |
I have two points of confusion. First, is evolution a theory or not. In the first sentence, you say not. In the second sentence, you say it is. Second, there are no "any successful rigorous predictive commodities that can reliably discern ID as the best explanation of a phenomena," why exactly are you so sure it is true?
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But you don't question your public school education because if you did you would have to question your atheistic faith, do you think your doing something "new". |
I am not an atheist and there are a number of other people here, like Wes, who are theists.
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Step 6. These scientists become less willing to share their time and the knowledge that took them a lifetime of painstaking study to acquire with someone who exhibits such willful ignorance. Some get angry out of the frustration. Others give up and engage in mockery.
( Share what knowledge? Your unfounded believe in Atheism. |
To reiterate the point, not everyone here is an atheist.
| Quote | | You see I hear people like you claim their is no debate yet here we are. |
Umm.......
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Step 7. LOLCats!
(I don't need "LOL" I have the beauty of real science and the truth Darwin is a failed model.Who can ask for more??)
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It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it. We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)
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