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phhht



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2013,08:56   

Is anyone else having trouble with The Bathroom Wall at The Panda's Thumb?

I cannot update comments or add a comment, among other problems.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 08 2013,07:50   

Does anyone have access to JSTOR?  I need this article: http://www.jstor.org/discove....8237741

It is, I suspect, another Meyer quote mine.

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 08 2013,12:21   

Quote (phhht @ Nov. 07 2013,08:56)
Is anyone else having trouble with The Bathroom Wall at The Panda's Thumb?

I cannot update comments or add a comment, among other problems.

Reed Cartwright manages the software back-end, and he knows about the problem and will be getting to it. He has the normal teaching load plus a new infant in the family soaking up his attention.

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2013,11:29   

Hmmm... Morris seems to have become a young, familiar looking guy...

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Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2013,22:03   

Quote (Robin @ Nov. 12 2013,11:29)
Hmmm... Morris seems to have become a young, familiar looking guy...

LOL!

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2013,07:17   

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-20....ment-ap

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2013,20:00   

Are there ads on AtBC now?  A video just popped up in the lower right corner.

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2013,02:51   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 08 2013,12:21)
Quote (phhht @ Nov. 07 2013,08:56)
Is anyone else having trouble with The Bathroom Wall at The Panda's Thumb?

I cannot update comments or add a comment, among other problems.

Reed Cartwright manages the software back-end, and he knows about the problem and will be getting to it. He has the normal teaching load plus a new infant in the family soaking up his attention.

I have not been able to connect with PT at all for several days now.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2013,06:31   

HOW COME WE CAN'T SPEAK MONKEY??????

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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2013,21:56   

You mean we can't do Rhesus Pieces? Crikey!

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2013,12:30   

Adam Ant = Michael Behe



New Wave Artists Aging Gracefully

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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2013,16:03   

Interesting article about the dino steaks soft tissue remain recovered by Schweitzer & Co.

 
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Dr Schweitzer and Dr Goodwin believe that highly reactive ions known as free radicals, which are produced by iron as it is released from the haemoglobin, interact with the organic tissue causing abnormal chemical bonds to form. These bonds effectively tie proteins in knots at the molecular level, much as the preservative formaldehyde does. This knot-tying makes the proteins unrecognisable to the sorts of bacteria that would normally consume them. This, they theorise, is how the soft tissues manage to survive for millions of years without rotting away.


But, I ask, is it not simpler to propose that they simply haven't had time to rot away?

Maranatha!

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2013,03:02   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 08 2013,12:21)
Quote (phhht @ Nov. 07 2013,08:56)
Is anyone else having trouble with The Bathroom Wall at The Panda's Thumb?

I cannot update comments or add a comment, among other problems.

Reed Cartwright manages the software back-end, and he knows about the problem and will be getting to it. He has the normal teaching load plus a new infant in the family soaking up his attention.

After being unable to get to PT at all for some weeks, i finally succeeded after resetting my router. But I don't know if this problem is here or there: I am only able to get to read or add comments except at two threads: Corvus corax and Lenski's experiment.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2013,20:10   

Those two have less than 60 replies, so they don't have paging issues like longer threads, but there's a few others that are also less than 60, so I don't know if that's a factor or not.

Henry

  
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2013,03:57   

Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 30 2013,20:10)
Those two have less than 60 replies, so they don't have paging issues like longer threads, but there's a few others that are also less than 60, so I don't know if that's a factor or not.

Henry

I am flabbergasted; bypassing the router everything works 100%.

Resetting the router worked the first time but now even that doesn't help. Anyway, I own the problem now.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2013,11:02   

Viagra and Saturday night. Hooray.

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2013,03:05   

Interesting article about the Tyranny of the Premium Journals:

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"I have published in the big brands, including papers that won me a Nobel prize. But no longer," [Randy Schekman] writes. "Just as Wall Street needs to break the hold of bonus culture, so science must break the tyranny of the luxury journals."


The 'impact factor' also comes in for opprobrium.

What do the practising scientists here think?

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2013,08:42   

Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 10 2013,03:05)
Interesting article about the Tyranny of the Premium Journals:

   
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"I have published in the big brands, including papers that won me a Nobel prize. But no longer," [Randy Schekman] writes. "Just as Wall Street needs to break the hold of bonus culture, so science must break the tyranny of the luxury journals."


The 'impact factor' also comes in for opprobrium.

What do the practising scientists here think?

We should buy out the publishers.

See this.

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Dec. 10 2013,09:03

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2013,09:10   

Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 10 2013,03:05)
Interesting article about the Tyranny of the Premium Journals:

 
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"I have published in the big brands, including papers that won me a Nobel prize. But no longer," [Randy Schekman] writes. "Just as Wall Street needs to break the hold of bonus culture, so science must break the tyranny of the luxury journals."


The 'impact factor' also comes in for opprobrium.

What do the practising scientists here think?

It's amusing that Schekman used to be editor in chief of PNAS, another premium journal, and is now editor in chief of eLife, which aims to be a rival of Nature, Science, Cell etc.

The impact factor is a constant source of criticism, and certainly seems to be over-used. But that's a different issue: we all wanted to publish in Nature before the impact factor became so important.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 11 2013,07:14   

Which is worse?

1) Creationists who have no clue about science in order to promote their ideas

or

2) Crazy evolutionists who have no clue about science in order to promote their ideas


Here's a direct quote from one  ?
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MODERN  EDUCATION.  Evolution began to Create the Universe 13.8 Billion years ago, then 5.3 Billion years ago Evolution Created the Earth, then 3.8 Billion years ago Evolution Created Organic Molecules the building blocks of all life, and this life has Evolved into all the life we have on Earth today, and this has been Scientifically proven that 92 Elements Created all Human-kind and everything we can see, touch, and hear, (“not myths”) and all these  Elements are Created by exploding stars called Supernovas, that means we are all a part of the Universe and when our life journey ends we will all go back into the Universe, So in today’s modern world every Child on Earth  must be given the opportunity to learn all about “EVOLUTION” the true Creator of everything, because it is  very important for every Child to be taught the Scientific truth of Creation from the very first year of schooling, because the Scientific truth of Creation brings (“ALL”) people together, So this is why we must all care for and help each other, because we are all a part of and belong to the Universe, SO STAY HAPPY and read this little book of truth  http://evolutionslaw.net/   evolutionslaw@gmail.com


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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 11 2013,09:40   

Sounds like a false flag operation.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 11 2013,12:52   

I'm previewing Henry Gee's new book "The Accidental Species: Misunderstandings of Human Evolution".  It's not bad, if a little basic for most of the readers here, but it's well put together and entertaining.

Gee mentions creationists briefly and their quotemining of his prior works.  [Yes, Barry and others at UD, Gee says that you creationists ignore statements that he's made to the contrary.]

Anyway, this quote from Gee is hillarious.

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That said, I refuse to modify my thoughts for fear of being quote- mined by idiots. I tend to regard creationists as an occupational hazard, rather in the same way that those who go walking in the dark, looking up at the stars, will occasionally tread in a pile of dog shit.


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Learned Hand



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2013,00:46   

I've been working on a pet project, which relates to a more serious and dangerous problem than creationism: anti-vaccine activism.

As people who've read my posts here know, I'm particularly interested in effective communication. So I wrote a guide to how those of us who aren't healthcare providers can help persuade friends and family to vaccinate. It draws on some of my experience as a negotiator, and negative lessons from poor communication in online fights reported here.

The guide is here: http://violentmetaphors.com/2013.......ccinate

I would love for people to help publicize it, both because I'm vain and because I hope it can be a real resource for people who want to persuade their friends and family to make a better choice about immunization.

But there's one thing I particularly want: I would love for anyone who's had a personal experience with these conversations to leave a comment over at VM. I'd like to collect anecdotes about such conversations to use in revising the guide, and as a further resource.

If you know someone who's had such a conversation, whether or not it went the way they hoped, please send them our way so we can collect their story.

Thank you!

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,18:26   

It's good to know that some of the more educated, intellectual conservatives can see through ID nonsense:

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None of them, however, have struck me as more bizarre than the manner in which the question of “belief” in the scientific Theory of Evolution is treated in this country. This is an issue that has been a controversy in the United States going all the way back to the early 20th Century and the Scopes Monkey Trial, and its continued well into today. Opponents of the teaching [of] Darwinian Evolution in public schools continue their efforts to restrict such education, often by disguising themselves as people who want to give “equal time” to the totally discredited idea of “Intelligent Design,” which is actually nothing more than Creationism dressed up with language that sounds like its scientific.

   
Arctodus23



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2014,23:22   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 11 2013,07:14)
Which is worse?

1) Creationists who have no clue about science in order to promote their ideas

or

2) Crazy evolutionists who have no clue about science in order to promote their ideas


Here's a direct quote from one  ?
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MODERN  EDUCATION.  Evolution began to Create the Universe 13.8 Billion years ago, then 5.3 Billion years ago Evolution Created the Earth, then 3.8 Billion years ago Evolution Created Organic Molecules the building blocks of all life, and this life has Evolved into all the life we have on Earth today, and this has been Scientifically proven that 92 Elements Created all Human-kind and everything we can see, touch, and hear, (“not myths”) and all these  Elements are Created by exploding stars called Supernovas, that means we are all a part of the Universe and when our life journey ends we will all go back into the Universe, So in today’s modern world every Child on Earth  must be given the opportunity to learn all about “EVOLUTION” the true Creator of everything, because it is  very important for every Child to be taught the Scientific truth of Creation from the very first year of schooling, because the Scientific truth of Creation brings (“ALL”) people together, So this is why we must all care for and help each other, because we are all a part of and belong to the Universe, SO STAY HAPPY and read this little book of truth  http://evolutionslaw.net/   evolutionslaw@gmail.com

(a) Creationists. They're dishonest & manipulate every sing scratch of science, then wash it out. Leaving shameful, dishonorable foul-play.

The ignorant evolutionists simply have no knowledge on the subject.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2014,08:01   

Since over at PT they are discussing the upcoming debate between The Science Guy and Ken Ham I'd like to show you the grim fate of a biblical theme park:
Holy Land USA, which the photographer counts among "the most spectacular abandoned places in the world".
He says:
   
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Holy Land USA was a theme park based on passages from the Bible. At its peak in the 1960s and 70s, the park attracted around 40,000 visitors annually. It was closed down in 1984, though the grounds remain intact.




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Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2014,11:22   

You can still go to the Holy Land Experience and watch gruesome torture and execution, next to Disney:

5 Theme Parks Where Childhood Die  

You'd like to see Jesus beaten and crucified over and over again, wouldn't you?  It looks like a real place, from the link at the link.  The South Korean place is, um, interesting, too.

Glen Davidson

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2014,11:20   

Robert Byers recently at PT (IIRC) claimed that hair on human head is not for keeping warm.

Here, we read that "Fur and Feathers keep Animals Warm by Scattering Light".

I wonder if the same might apply to human hair as well?

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2014,12:15   

My google-fu needs to be rebooted.

IIRC, there was a creationist who sent in samples for carbon dating, knowing that it would result in erroneous results.  I thought it was Austin, but I can't find it at Talk.origins.

Anyone recall what I'm talking about?

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JonF



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2014,13:24   

Jeffrey Dahmer's father was one: http://tinyurl.com/kmxpna8....mxpna8.

I see a reference to "Direct Dating of Cretaceous-Jurassic Fossils (and Other Evidences for Human-Dinosaur Coexistence)" at http://tinyurl.com/odzr2qu....odzr2qu but I don't find anything else on that one.

{ABE} See also http://www.asa3.org/ASA....ng.html

  
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