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Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2014,19:55   

Sal Cordova really should have seen this coming. In posting a thread titled 'Questions college students should ask science professors' he should have anticipated:
1. Someone (i.e. Roy) might actually answer his questions
2. UD regulars (in this case Barb) would use it to go into full Big Daddy? mode, suggesting more questions. Sample:
Question: What takes greater faith—to believe that the millions of intricately coordinated parts of a cell arose by chance or to believe that the cell is the product of an intelligent mind?

I can just see that atheist materialist darwinist professor withering under an onslaught like that.
UD link

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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2014,20:39   

Quote (Ptaylor @ April 07 2014,19:55)
Sal Cordova really should have seen this coming. In posting a thread titled 'Questions college students should ask science professors' he should have anticipated:
1. Someone (i.e. Roy) might actually answer his questions
2. UD regulars (in this case Barb) would use it to go into full Big Daddy? mode, suggesting more questions. Sample:
Question: What takes greater faith—to believe that the millions of intricately coordinated parts of a cell arose by chance or to believe that the cell is the product of an intelligent mind?

I can just see that atheist materialist darwinist professor withering under an onslaught like that.
UD link

And that atheist materialist darwinist professor....was Hitler!!!111

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BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2014,06:35   

Quote (Ptaylor @ April 08 2014,01:55)
Sal Cordova really should have seen this coming. In posting a thread titled 'Questions college students should ask science professors' he should have anticipated:
1. Someone (i.e. Roy) might actually answer his questions
2. UD regulars (in this case Barb) would use it to go into full Big Daddy? mode, suggesting more questions. Sample:
Question: What takes greater faith—to believe that the millions of intricately coordinated parts of a cell arose by chance or to believe that the cell is the product of an intelligent mind?

I can just see that atheist materialist darwinist professor withering under an onslaught like that.
UD link

I LOL'd
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13. I’ll consider it if it happens. Until then, it’s no more a problem for science than asking “What if Moses returns and she’s female and tells the world that the Bible was written by a drunken con-artist with diarrhoea?” is a problem for religion.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2014,08:35   

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moved to BIO-Complexity thread


Edited by Zachriel on April 08 2014,19:22

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Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2014,12:11   

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At commencement on May 18, the University of Notre Dame will honor [Ken] Miller with the 2014 Laetare Medal, an award given annually to a Catholic “whose genius has ennobled the arts and sciences, illustrated the ideals of the Church and enriched the heritage of humanity.”


A Slimy question:  "Why did they pick Catholic Ken Miller over Catholic Michael Behe?"

Yeah, why?  Well, there was this in the text quoted by Slime:  "Notre Dame president Fr. John Jenkins describes Miller as an “incisive witness both to scientific acumen..."

Ah, yes, that pesky bit about scientific acumen.  Well, you can't expect Cordova to care about that, can you?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2014,14:57   

Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 08 2014,12:11)
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At commencement on May 18, the University of Notre Dame will honor [Ken] Miller with the 2014 Laetare Medal, an award given annually to a Catholic “whose genius has ennobled the arts and sciences, illustrated the ideals of the Church and enriched the heritage of humanity.”


A Slimy question:  "Why did they pick Catholic Ken Miller over Catholic Michael Behe?"

Yeah, why?  Well, there was this in the text quoted by Slime:  "Notre Dame president Fr. John Jenkins describes Miller as an “incisive witness both to scientific acumen..."

Ah, yes, that pesky bit about scientific acumen.  Well, you can't expect Cordova to care about that, can you?

Glen Davidson

It could be that it because the RCC doesn't think that Astrology is compatible with the "ideals of the Church". :)

http://www.catholic.com/tracts.....trology

  
Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2014,00:00   

Was it just me, or has AtBC been down for the last 24 or so hours? Whatever, I had to find fun elsewhere on the internets regarding Uncommonly Dense for a while. It wasn't difficult - first I found Larry Moran having a good laugh at Sal Cordova's latest in 'How can IDiot students stump science professors?' PZ Myers joined in soon after with  'No! Not the list of stumpers again!', ending with
     
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Ah, well. That’s Salvador Cordova for you. I think he’s competing with Casey Luskin for the title of Dumbest ID Creationist of Them All.

Coincidence or not, further commenting on Sal's Questions thread dwindled right away after that was posted.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2014,13:54   

Quote (Ptaylor @ April 11 2014,00:00)
Was it just me, or has AtBC been down for the last 24 or so hours? Whatever, I had to find fun elsewhere on the internets regarding Uncommonly Dense for a while. It wasn't difficult - first I found Larry Moran having a good laugh at Sal Cordova's latest in 'How can IDiot students stump science professors?' PZ Myers joined in soon after with  'No! Not the list of stumpers again!', ending with
     
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Ah, well. That’s Salvador Cordova for you. I think he’s competing with Casey Luskin for the title of Dumbest ID Creationist of Them All.

Coincidence or not, further commenting on Sal's Questions thread dwindled right away after that was posted.

I had a 48 hour hiatus... I thought either
1.  Wes forgot to pay the electric bill - or more likely -
2.  The UDers finally had enough, and instead of science - did some technology - and hacked The Thorn In Their Martyred Side...

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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2014,18:38   

VJ Torley:  
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2014,22:26   

Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 11 2014,18:38)
VJ Torley:    
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

Glen Davidson

JLAfan2001 is twisting the knife in VJ's wound for all to see:  
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4 JLAfan2001 April 11, 2014 at 3:41 pm

Another thing. If the neutral theory has been validated, wouldn’t that be proof that most of the human genome is in fact just as WD400 and Moran has been saying? If that is the case, that would be another nail in ID’s coffin.

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5 JLAfan2001 April 11, 2014 at 3:43 pm

Meant to say that the human genome would in fact be junk.


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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2014,22:38   

Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 11 2014,18:38)
VJ Torley:          
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

Glen Davidson

Torley is actually having a bit of a Friday Meltdown™.

This is the climax of a catastrophically stupid (and hilarious) series of threads between vjtorley and Larry Moran.  It's one of the best I've ever seen on UD.

Larry Moran's side of the thread starts here.  You can pick up the links to the torley pieces from the articles.


A creationist illustrates the argument from ignorance while trying to understand population genetics and Neutral Theory:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......om.html

A creationist tries to understand genetic load:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......nd.html

Breaking news: Creationist Vincent Torley lies and moves goalposts:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......nt.html

Vincent Torley tries to understand fixation:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......nd.html

On being "outed" as a closet Darwinist:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......st.html

On the frustration of trying to educate IDiots:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......te.html

I have never seen anyone beat themselves up as thoroughly as Torley does here.

Edited to remove meaningless tripe.

Edited by CeilingCat on April 11 2014,22:42

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,03:27   

Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 11 2014,18:38)
VJ Torley:  
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

Glen Davidson

Nope, it's surprisingly short. And it's a flat out "I was wrong", without any weaselling.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,04:19   

Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 11 2014,18:38)
VJ Torley:    
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

Glen Davidson

Nope, it's surprisingly short. And it's a flat out "I was wrong", without any weaselling.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,13:12   

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 12 2014,10:19)
Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 11 2014,18:38)
VJ Torley:    
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

Glen Davidson

Nope, it's surprisingly short. And it's a flat out "I was wrong", without any weaselling.

It almost gives you hope ...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,14:23   

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 12 2014,04:19)
 
Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 11 2014,18:38)
VJ Torley:      
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

Glen Davidson

Nope, it's surprisingly short. And it's a flat out "I was wrong", without any weaselling.

Yes, I did see it, although I didn't bother reading it, because, dull (Torley wrong--oh the news value...).  I wouldn't call it short (not that you said it was, but it could be taken that way), though, except by comparison.

Although I knew it was on the obscure side, I hoped that it would be recognized that I was referring to the subject, that when he is wrong he writes 20 pages of meaningless drivel (tripe, what-not).

Perhaps this is why this post was relatively short.  For once he wasn't wrong in the post itself.
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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,17:07   

Quote (CeilingCat @ April 11 2014,23:38)
Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 11 2014,18:38)
VJ Torley:            
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

Glen Davidson

Torley is actually having a bit of a Friday Meltdown™.

This is the climax of a catastrophically stupid (and hilarious) series of threads between vjtorley and Larry Moran.  It's one of the best I've ever seen on UD.

Larry Moran's side of the thread starts here.  You can pick up the links to the torley pieces from the articles.


A creationist illustrates the argument from ignorance while trying to understand population genetics and Neutral Theory:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......om.html

A creationist tries to understand genetic load:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......nd.html

Breaking news: Creationist Vincent Torley lies and moves goalposts:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......nt.html

Vincent Torley tries to understand fixation:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......nd.html

On being "outed" as a closet Darwinist:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......st.html

On the frustration of trying to educate IDiots:
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2014.......te.html

I have never seen anyone beat themselves up as thoroughly as Torley does here.

Edited to remove meaningless tripe.

Holy Toledo, from the second link by Salvador Cordova

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Ok, so let’s do an experiment. Let’s subject bacteria or plants or any organism to radiation and thus increase the mutation rate mutation rate by a factor of 1 million or 1 billion. Do you think the above formula will still hold? We tried it in the lab, it killed the plants, and at some point rather than speeding evolution we are doing sterilization.


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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,17:29   

I call Bullshit.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014.......71.html

 
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We had an experience a couple years ago where some of the Discovery scientists were traveling with one of our supporters. So that night, we were at this cowboy steakhouse feeding the troops.


Ok....Didn't know the DI had a travelling circus....but whatever....

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So I jumped in and offered the Discovery Institute credit card to pay for the Discovery Institute scientists, and this young waitress came back with the bill and the credit card. And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, "Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?"


Nope. Not happening. Waited tables, and you know damn better than to ask about a company credit card when people are entertaining. Or to express even passing interest at all in peoples' plastic which they are very protective of.

Though my bigger objection should be "Discovery Institute scientists," of which there are 0. Anti-science-ists, plenty.

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Well, I said, we're a scientific think tank, and we're investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, "I thought so!"


I'll poll 300 "U" students right now. Odds of even one having heard of the Discovery Institute? Lol.

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She said, "Our professors hate you." And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, "I'm a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I'm telling you, our professors hate you.


How did this come up? In Bio 101, the profs announce "F-intelligent design idiots and the Discovery Institute we hate them", and this woman happens to remember it when she sees your credit card? We don't bring up the "controversy" in college classes. There is no controversy. Outside of idiot school boards in red states, you don't even exist.

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But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'


Nope. But how proud are you that the total of your "science" can be expressed in an emotional reaction?
Nope. We're no relative of apes. Nope that's complex-no way it evolved." God done it!

Edited by REC on April 12 2014,17:35

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,17:55   

Larry Moran says Nick Matzke says this may be the worst post in UD Herstory.

So I KNOW reading that shit directly would require All Teh Alcohols!

   
Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,18:09   

Well, it's Colonel Klinkhoffer, quoting the great Meyer, so it's pretty much unbelievable from the get-go.

But what about this?

 
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But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'" So this is a little, in microcosm, a picture of what's happening. The establishment is terrified of this idea. -


Yeah, they have to go to EvolutionBullshit for animation, when for Expelled the IDiots had to take out XVIVO's animation, which they at first copied, and make one of their own.  

Terrifying, indeed.  Because we only have poofs as explanations.  No, wait, that's Meyer and (other) morons.

No, the whole story reeks of made-up garbage, possibly based on a few flimsy facts.  If there was a waitress who said such things, obviously she was just a creationist bigot--who else says that professors hate the worthless frauds?--who is so damned ignorant that she doesn't know that science made the first and best animations of molecular machines, and that it also has the evidence of evolution of a good many, if not all, of them.

The only thing scary about these jerks is that they'd make a whole lot of science illegal if they ever had power firmly in their grasp.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,18:10   

Quote (REC @ April 12 2014,18:29)
I call Bullshit.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014.......71.html

   
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We had an experience a couple years ago where some of the Discovery scientists were traveling with one of our supporters. So that night, we were at this cowboy steakhouse feeding the troops.


Ok....Didn't know the DI had a travelling circus....but whatever....

 
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So I jumped in and offered the Discovery Institute credit card to pay for the Discovery Institute scientists, and this young waitress came back with the bill and the credit card. And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, "Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?"


Nope. Not happening. Waited tables, and you know damn better than to ask about a company credit card when people are entertaining. Or to express even passing interest at all in peoples' plastic which they are very protective of.

Though my bigger objection should be "Discovery Institute scientists," of which there are 0. Anti-science-ists, plenty.

 
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Well, I said, we're a scientific think tank, and we're investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, "I thought so!"


I'll poll 300 "U" students right now. Odds of even one having heard of the Discovery Institute? Lol.

 
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She said, "Our professors hate you." And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, "I'm a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I'm telling you, our professors hate you.


How did this come up? In Bio 101, the profs announce "F-intelligent design idiots and the Discovery Institute we hate them", and this woman happens to remember it when she sees your credit card? We don't bring up the "controversy" in college classes. There is no controversy. Outside of idiot school boards in red states, you don't even exist.

 
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But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'


Nope. But how proud are you that the total of your "science" can be expressed in an emotional reaction?
Nope. We're no relative of apes. Nope that's complex-no way it evolved." God done it!

I dislike those animations. Had a gf years ago who studied that protein, i forget, i think actin or myosin, that they show trucking around the cell like little pedestrians, and she had actually done experiments on the things were you could, if the planets lined up, barely see them, and she said they were little fuzzy strands that barely manage to make 11 steps 'forward' every 20.

Those little animations, with their separate colors, and their oversimplified activities, make shit look a million times more designed than it looks under a 'scope.

Edited by stevestory on April 12 2014,19:12

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2014,18:19   

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I dislike those animations. Had a gf years ago who studied that protein, i forget, i think actin or myosin, that they show trucking around the cell like little pedestrians, and she had actually done experiments on the things were you could, if the planets lined up, barely see them, and she said they were little fuzzy strands that barely manage to make 11 steps 'forward' every 20.

Those little animations, with their separate colors, and their oversimplified activities, make shit look a million times more designed than it looks under a 'scope.


That's another thing that makes it sound like a lie.  If she really were a biology major, she should know how fake the animations are.  And they're meant to be fake, to leave out the stochastic jitters and to show basically the resulting functional movements.

They really shouldn't be shown without a good explanation of how much is left out--probably one included in the animation itself.  

No biology major has an excuse, regardless, even if she's not very far along.  So if she did exist, let's hope she got out of biology long ago, or at least learned a whole lot more than the junk you get from the DI.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,03:51   

Quote (BillB @ April 12 2014,13:12)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ April 12 2014,10:19)
 
Quote (Glen Davidson @ April 11 2014,18:38)
VJ Torley:        
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When I’m wrong


I didn't read it, but I'm pretty sure that it involves writing 20 pages of meaningless tripe.

Glen Davidson

Nope, it's surprisingly short. And it's a flat out "I was wrong", without any weaselling.

It almost gives you hope ...

Better don't read the comments.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,07:40   

Quote (REC @ April 12 2014,23:29)
I call Bullshit.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014.......71.html

 
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We had an experience a couple years ago where some of the Discovery scientists were traveling with one of our supporters. So that night, we were at this cowboy steakhouse feeding the troops.


Ok....Didn't know the DI had a travelling circus....but whatever....

 
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So I jumped in and offered the Discovery Institute credit card to pay for the Discovery Institute scientists, and this young waitress came back with the bill and the credit card. And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, "Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?"


Nope. Not happening. Waited tables, and you know damn better than to ask about a company credit card when people are entertaining. Or to express even passing interest at all in peoples' plastic which they are very protective of.

Though my bigger objection should be "Discovery Institute scientists," of which there are 0. Anti-science-ists, plenty.

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Well, I said, we're a scientific think tank, and we're investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, "I thought so!"


I'll poll 300 "U" students right now. Odds of even one having heard of the Discovery Institute? Lol.

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She said, "Our professors hate you." And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, "I'm a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I'm telling you, our professors hate you.


How did this come up? In Bio 101, the profs announce "F-intelligent design idiots and the Discovery Institute we hate them", and this woman happens to remember it when she sees your credit card? We don't bring up the "controversy" in college classes. There is no controversy. Outside of idiot school boards in red states, you don't even exist.

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But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'


Nope. But how proud are you that the total of your "science" can be expressed in an emotional reaction?
Nope. We're no relative of apes. Nope that's complex-no way it evolved." God done it!

Yep, it's practically a Chick tract.

(I wonder if Casey had to sit on the big cushion at the table.)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,11:01   

Quote (Woodbine @ April 13 2014,07:40)
 
Quote (REC @ April 12 2014,23:29)
I call Bullshit.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014.......71.html

     
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We had an experience a couple years ago where some of the Discovery scientists were traveling with one of our supporters. So that night, we were at this cowboy steakhouse feeding the troops.


Ok....Didn't know the DI had a travelling circus....but whatever....

   
Quote
So I jumped in and offered the Discovery Institute credit card to pay for the Discovery Institute scientists, and this young waitress came back with the bill and the credit card. And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, "Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?"


Nope. Not happening. Waited tables, and you know damn better than to ask about a company credit card when people are entertaining. Or to express even passing interest at all in peoples' plastic which they are very protective of.

Though my bigger objection should be "Discovery Institute scientists," of which there are 0. Anti-science-ists, plenty.

   
Quote

Well, I said, we're a scientific think tank, and we're investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, "I thought so!"


I'll poll 300 "U" students right now. Odds of even one having heard of the Discovery Institute? Lol.

   
Quote
She said, "Our professors hate you." And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, "I'm a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I'm telling you, our professors hate you.


How did this come up? In Bio 101, the profs announce "F-intelligent design idiots and the Discovery Institute we hate them", and this woman happens to remember it when she sees your credit card? We don't bring up the "controversy" in college classes. There is no controversy. Outside of idiot school boards in red states, you don't even exist.

   
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But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'


Nope. But how proud are you that the total of your "science" can be expressed in an emotional reaction?
Nope. We're no relative of apes. Nope that's complex-no way it evolved." God done it!

Yep, it's practically a Chick tract.

(I wonder if Casey had to sit on the big cushion at the table.)

C'mon, a good Xian IDiot like Meyer would never lie.

It's just the latest instance of street theater.   :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,12:21   

Quote (REC @ April 12 2014,18:29)
I call Bullshit.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014.......71.html

 
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We had an experience a couple years ago where some of the Discovery scientists were traveling with one of our supporters. So that night, we were at this cowboy steakhouse feeding the troops.


Ok....Didn't know the DI had a travelling circus....but whatever....

 
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So I jumped in and offered the Discovery Institute credit card to pay for the Discovery Institute scientists, and this young waitress came back with the bill and the credit card. And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, "Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?"


Nope. Not happening. Waited tables, and you know damn better than to ask about a company credit card when people are entertaining. Or to express even passing interest at all in peoples' plastic which they are very protective of.

Though my bigger objection should be "Discovery Institute scientists," of which there are 0. Anti-science-ists, plenty.

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Well, I said, we're a scientific think tank, and we're investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, "I thought so!"


I'll poll 300 "U" students right now. Odds of even one having heard of the Discovery Institute? Lol.

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She said, "Our professors hate you." And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, "I'm a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I'm telling you, our professors hate you.


How did this come up? In Bio 101, the profs announce "F-intelligent design idiots and the Discovery Institute we hate them", and this woman happens to remember it when she sees your credit card? We don't bring up the "controversy" in college classes. There is no controversy. Outside of idiot school boards in red states, you don't even exist.

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But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'


Nope. But how proud are you that the total of your "science" can be expressed in an emotional reaction?
Nope. We're no relative of apes. Nope that's complex-no way it evolved." God done it!

May I suggest that the server recognized these turkeys and was trying to get a decent tip?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,13:53   

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I call Bullshit.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014.......71.html

   
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We had an experience a couple years ago where some of the Discovery scientists were traveling with one of our supporters. So that night, we were at this cowboy steakhouse feeding the troops.


Ok....Didn't know the DI had a travelling circus....but whatever....

 
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So I jumped in and offered the Discovery Institute credit card to pay for the Discovery Institute scientists, and this young waitress came back with the bill and the credit card. And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, "Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?"


Nope. Not happening. Waited tables, and you know damn better than to ask about a company credit card when people are entertaining. Or to express even passing interest at all in peoples' plastic which they are very protective of.

Though my bigger objection should be "Discovery Institute scientists," of which there are 0. Anti-science-ists, plenty.

 
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Well, I said, we're a scientific think tank, and we're investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, "I thought so!"


I'll poll 300 "U" students right now. Odds of even one having heard of the Discovery Institute? Lol.

 
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She said, "Our professors hate you." And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, "I'm a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I'm telling you, our professors hate you.


How did this come up? In Bio 101, the profs announce "F-intelligent design idiots and the Discovery Institute we hate them", and this woman happens to remember it when she sees your credit card? We don't bring up the "controversy" in college classes. There is no controversy. Outside of idiot school boards in red states, you don't even exist.

 
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But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, 'No way did that evolve.'


Nope. But how proud are you that the total of your "science" can be expressed in an emotional reaction?
Nope. We're no relative of apes. Nope that's complex-no way it evolved." God done it!

Yep, it's practically a Chick tract.

(I wonder if Casey had to sit on the big cushion at the table.)

And that waitress was a Navy Seal...

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,16:02   

Sal just wanted to let his audience know that he used to travel with the DI's finest.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,18:37   

A question of bias [by VJT]

In which it is demonstrated that theists/IDiots are far less biased than the evangelicals for atheism and materialism, by doing such things as quoting IDiots saying that they are not biased like the Philistines.

A more basic question:  Can any of these people even imagine that evolution is about science and evidence, and not about atheism or "materialism?"  Or, imagine that theists/IDIots aren't to be believed until and unless they can be conclusively shown to be wrong, while any "atheist" and/or evolutionist is to be considered a lying hound unless and until some extraordinary case can be made that on some narrow point he is not?

So far the evidence suggests that the answer to both is "no."

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,20:10   

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Sal just wanted to let his audience know that he used to travel with the DI's finest.

All of Sal's posts are about himself. He has issues.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2014,20:51   

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Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 13 2014,16:02)
Sal just wanted to let his audience know that he used to travel with the DI's finest.

All of Sal's posts are about himself. He has issues.

Human Shitstain Sal desperately, desperately wants to be one of the IDiot "big boys".  It's funny the way Shitstain is always dropping IDiot names (i.e "when I was discussing his explanatory filter with Bill") trying to ride their coattails.  :D  In reality if it wasn't for Barry A giving Shitstain topic starting privileges at UD he'd be pretty much anonymous.

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