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didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,13:08   

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Is there a sadder fuck on the internet than Joe Gallien?

I'm actually gonna have to say "yes" to this.  Chris-chan.  Chris-chan is much sadder.

Oh linky please. Joe is just boring and predictable these days. Since his he-man fantasy was exposed (poor chubbers) he's entertainment quality has declined.

You've never heard of Chris-chan?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,13:16   

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Kevin McCarthy and genetics don't mix:

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BTW: Joe, our position (i.e. evolution) does NOT require that there existed a species of ape-humans with 47 chromosomes.-Kevin McCarthy, ignorant of genetics


Humans have 46- chimps have 48. Somewhere in the human lineage there was a fusion event that turned 24 into 23. That 23 could only "mate" with a 24. 23 + 24 = 47

ROFL!  And the one with 23 and 24 could only mate with another 23 and 24, and the result could only be 23 and 24.  That is a new science called Joenetics.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,13:24   

Joe is sad that there are humans living today with anomalous chromosome counts, who manage to have children.

Perhaps not as fertile as normal, but not always infertile.

This is the trouble with doing science by looking up stuff in the dictionary.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,14:05   

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Also we are talking about an act of God. What part of that don't you understand?

So you're going with Poof! as an explanation?  How sciency.

Again, John, your position doesn't have any science. So fuck off.

I'm looking forward to your methodology for testing Poof!, caekboy.

And I am waiting for your methodology for testing sheer dumb luck asswipe boy

You have reached middle age and three hundred pounds without any evident talent other than drooling.  You're not in a good position to disparage "sheer dumb luck", caekboy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,14:50   

From the cesspool of Untelligent Reasoning:

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Evolutionism posits a somewhat gradual, incremental evolution driven by culled genetic accidents. Natural selection, a process of elimination, is said to be blind, mindless and incorporates heritable random, as in happenstance/ accidental, mutations. Dawkins calls it blind watchmaker evolution.


Bullshit, Joe. Evolution in itself is way more complex than "culled genetic accidents". Hell, even mutations aren't that important. Ever heard of 'epigenetics'? No, natural selection is not random. Natural selections just selects the organism most fit to adapt to a changing condition (this has been known since the 19th century, Joe).

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What we need is a way to model what mutations do. That is something beyond the piddly changes we observe. Changes in beak size does not explain the finch. Anti-biotic resistance does not explain bacteria. Moth coloration does not explain the moth.


Joe here is bullshitting, again. Clarify finches. Do you mean Darwin's finches? The variation of the beaks can be explained by natural selection, the original finch that came from S. America was only adapted to one type of environment, but those that had slightly thicker and shorter beaks could easily crack nuts better, thus enabling them to survive. Most of the original finches died off, save for a few that were "fit" enough to survive and reproduce successfully.

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We need to be able to test the hypothesis that changes to genomes can account for the diversity of life starting from the first populations as Darwin saw it- simple prokaryotes. Only then could we determine if natural selection is up to the task. But thanks to the current state of biology being dominated by blind watchmaker evolution, no one has any idea what makes an organism what it is and the evidence is against the “organisms are the sum of their genome”


Prokaryota is no longer a valid taxon, there's two entirely different domains, eubacteria and archaea. Plus, the eukaryotic cell most likely emerged via endosymbiosis:

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...._theory

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You would think that answering that question what makes an organism what it is? (with science as opposed to dogmatic declaration) with be paramount to biology. Because without an answer to that question evolutionism is untestable and Dobzhansky is just question begging "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution".


Bullshit. Here's an FAQ from the T.O. archive to get you started:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs....on.html

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,15:09   

[quote=Joe G,Feb. 21 2014,12:19][/quote]
Yes Intelligent Design is both testable and potentially falsifiable:



ID is based on three premises and the inference that follows (DeWolf et al., Darwinism, Design and Public Education, pg. 92):



 
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1) High information content (or specified complexity) and irreducible complexity constitute strong indicators or hallmarks of (past) intelligent design.


This is an assertion that has not been substantiated. No one has actually tested to see if there is actually a correlation between information content and association with intelligence. And in fact, no one has yet demonstrated that any organic object is "irreducibly complex" in any sense of the term.

 
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2) Biological systems have a high information content (or specified complexity) and utilize subsystems that manifest irreducible complexity.


Assertion without evidence


 
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3) Naturalistic mechanisms or undirected causes do not suffice to explain the origin of information (specified complexity) or irreducible complexity.


Another assertion without evidence. No tests or any investigations have been performed (never mind published) demonstrating that naturalistic mechanisms or undirected causes are insufficient for generating the information content in organisms. Of course, since IDers can't seem to come up with a way to actually calculate "complex specified information" - the supposed baseline determinant for what is and is not "designed" - the point is rather moot.

 
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4) Therefore, intelligent design constitutes the best explanations for the origin of information and irreducible complexity in biological systems.


Bzzzzz...ehhh, not so much.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,15:45   

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Kevin, that's $5, please. I told you I could induce a Friday Meltdown from Chubbers. Priceless (well $5).

It's too easy. As I said, he's an intellectual and emotional child.

That was such a great drool-flying meltdown by JoeTard I'll kick in another 5$ as a bonus.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,16:53   

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Poor Fattytard.  He's ronery again.   :(

Hi Timmy you ignorant fuck- Are you still clueless as to who posited blind watchmaker evolution, dumbass?

Was it the same Fattytard who calculated the CSI of a cake by counting the letters in the recipe?   :D  :D  :D

Only a moron would think that is what happened. And here you are, Timmy.

You must be proud to be a dumbass, Timmy.

Joe: [A] cake would, at a minimum, contain all the information in the recipe.

Of course, in any given language, the meaning of a one bit word can in principle be defined as any string S.

For example, let the definition of a new word, "u" (pronounced "caek") be the recipe for Banoffee marshmallow cake here

That is, the definition of "u" is the string S where S is

"Ingredients

165g butter, plus extra for greasing
165g soft light brown or light brown muscovado sugar
325g self-raising flour..."

...etc...

"Method

Heat oven to 190C/170C fan/gas 5. Grease and line the bottom of a round 21cm loose-bottomed cake tin..."

...etc.

Then the 'Joe CSI' of the cake would be the minimum required to specify the recipe, i.e. one bit represented by the word "u".

In practice in a real language, "u" would be defined as a combination of strings, S1, S2, S3 etc, where S1 might be "Ingredients" and S2 might be defined as "the mixture of 165g butter, plus extra for greasing
165g soft light brown or light brown muscovado sugar
325g self-raising flour"
and so on. Yet it remains that any recipe can be specified by a one bit word (presuming all valid one bit words haven't already been used), whether the one bit word is defined as the whole recipe or as a combination of parts of the recipe.

Any valid string of letters can be the definition of a new one bit word. The limit on the (for want of a better word) compressibility of any string is only the length of the available (unused) valid words in that language.

Now, although God is an Englishman - that is, He is at least certainly not French and by no means a woman - there is nothing special about English. We can always define any string in English as a one bit word in a different language, so that the minimum length of cake recipe is one bit.

That is, in Caekian, the minimum recipe of our cake is "!"

A real world example of this power of language would be the word "asshole" in the somewhat limited language, Gallien. "Asshole" means anything and everything, and as such is the perfect reply to any criticism.

Another possible reply in Gallien, to use our new word "u", meaning caek (that particular caek) is "i know u are, but what am i?"

Now, when you eat the cake, I have seen it implied that you eat the recipe, or at least part of the recipe. The rest stays with you as waste. English would be well served to add a definition of "waste" as the contents of the blog "Intelligent Reasoning", or any post from that blog.

Driver are you proud to be an ignorant ass? Why do you quote-mine?

The recipe is a capturing of the ACTIONS.

So the ingredients don't matter as far as how much information there is?

My point also applies to actions. Define the word "u" as "Mix together X,Y, and Z then bake at 160 degrees for 1 hour". One bit. You can define a one bit word to represent any actions. One bit recipe.

Good luck convincing anyone in the real world. When I see recipes being replaced by one letter you will have a point. Until then you are still just an asshole.

Everyone in the real world understands my point. Although in a slightly different form, it is actually the same point as oleg's point about the recipe for a second cake: "Repeat."

Please calculate the CSI for caeks of your choice though.

Asshole, did you say? I never would have predicted that.

Driver, your "point" is to be a moron.

You cannot capture the actions just by saying "repeat". I explained that to oleg many times.

Also you don't calculate the CSI- you measure the information to see if CSI is present.

What languages are valid for measuring the information of a tree frog? When are they valid from? Are dead languages allowed? What is a valid "capturing of the actions" if "repeat" isn't?

Good to see you say that CSI can't be calculated. Can you measure the information in a tree frog to see if CSI is present though?

If you can't determine the CSI of objects, why were you trying to determine the CSI of caek in the first place?

Come on Joe, show off your math.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,17:00   

Kids are so cruel, as a city boy I was horrified to see country boys sticking a straw into the back of insects and watching them fly away - downhill.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,17:06   



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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2014,18:01   

Strengths: Cake baking, watermelon science, set theory, biology, avoiding the naturalistic fallacy.

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Natural selection does [discriminate against people based on their sexual preferences]. And if we are just derived from drift and NS then it is perfectly normal for us to do the same as NS.


Astute social commentary.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2014,19:56   

Over at UD, Joe says:

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Deceiving onself is always the way to go through life- Not.[/FONT/


Joe of course advocates trying to deceive others with GA programming / power-lifting / Iraqi hero being  / Jim / John Paul Joe tales instead. Although as not even he believes that we believe them, no one understands why.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2014,22:58   

Joe helpfully tells us that Laser stands for...

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Light Amplification by Stimulations of Emitted Rays


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2014,23:24   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 25 2014,22:58)
Joe helpfully tells us that Laser stands for...

     
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Light Amplification by Stimulations of Emitted Rays

Reminds me of a classic Damon Wayans character from back in the day.


   
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I'd like to continue the 'redundance' of my quote, unquote 'intestinal tract', you see because to preclude on the issue of world domination would only circumvent---excuse me, circumcise the revelation that reflects the 'Afro-disiatic' symptoms which now perpetrates the Jheri Curls activation.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2014,16:43   

Over at Untelligent Reasoning:

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If you had my command of the englich language...


I don't think anyone knows Englisch like Joe.. Does it have Germanic roots?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2014,16:53   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 26 2014,14:43)
Over at Untelligent Reasoning:

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If you had my command of the englich language...


I don't think anyone knows Englisch like Joe.. Does it have Germanic roots?

Beautiful.  

We really must introduce him to Gary.  Virtual vegan ticks, here we come!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2014,22:34   

LOL.  Joe is trying to revise history again:

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Just because I threw some watermelon rinds out into the woods and they collected ticks- yup 8 legs and all- ,which was totally unexpected, evos are having a hissy fit. And yes I did reproduce it.

But that was years ago and it ws a very dry summer. Dry enough to dry out the vernal pool at the bottom of the hill- something that I had also never observed.

I don't know what the ticks were doing there but the more I thought about the more I figured they were hanging out waiting for a host. A potential host-birds, chipmunks, red and grey squirrels- comes by looking for something with water and some ticks attach themselves.

Anything else I can help you with?


Yes, I'm sure that conclusion had nothing to do with everyone pointing out how egregiously stupid the whole idea of watermelon-eating ticks was.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2014,23:58   

Quote (didymos @ Feb. 26 2014,22:34)
LOL.  Joe is trying to revise history again:

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Just because I threw some watermelon rinds out into the woods and they collected ticks- yup 8 legs and all- ,which was totally unexpected, evos are having a hissy fit. And yes I did reproduce it.

But that was years ago and it ws a very dry summer. Dry enough to dry out the vernal pool at the bottom of the hill- something that I had also never observed.

I don't know what the ticks were doing there but the more I thought about the more I figured they were hanging out waiting for a host. A potential host-birds, chipmunks, red and grey squirrels- comes by looking for something with water and some ticks attach themselves.

Anything else I can help you with?


Yes, I'm sure that conclusion had nothing to do with everyone pointing out how egregiously stupid the whole idea of watermelon-eating ticks was.

Bonus:

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I have Newtonian 10" reflector- about 4' of focal length. I also have 2 4" Newtonian reflectors, one computer controlled.

Unfortunately I now live in a very wooded area


Ah, how one pines for the open skies of the parking lot...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2014,00:17   

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LOL.  Joe is trying to revise history again:

 
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Just because I threw some watermelon rinds out into the woods and they collected ticks- yup 8 legs and all- ,which was totally unexpected, evos are having a hissy fit. And yes I did reproduce it.

But that was years ago and it ws a very dry summer. Dry enough to dry out the vernal pool at the bottom of the hill- something that I had also never observed.

I don't know what the ticks were doing there but the more I thought about the more I figured they were hanging out waiting for a host. A potential host-birds, chipmunks, red and grey squirrels- comes by looking for something with water and some ticks attach themselves.

Anything else I can help you with?


Yes, I'm sure that conclusion had nothing to do with everyone pointing out how egregiously stupid the whole idea of watermelon-eating ticks was.

Bonus:

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I have Newtonian 10" reflector- about 4' of focal length. I also have 2 4" Newtonian reflectors, one computer controlled.

Unfortunately I now live in a very wooded area


Ah, how one pines for the open skies of the parking lot...

Wot! At night?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2014,07:55   

North Korea also has the tallest hotel in the world... so what?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2014,09:22   

Quote (didymos @ Feb. 26 2014,22:34)
LOL.  Joe is trying to revise history again:

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Just because I threw some watermelon rinds out into the woods and they collected ticks- yup 8 legs and all- ,which was totally unexpected, evos are having a hissy fit. And yes I did reproduce it.

But that was years ago and it ws a very dry summer. Dry enough to dry out the vernal pool at the bottom of the hill- something that I had also never observed.

I don't know what the ticks were doing there but the more I thought about the more I figured they were hanging out waiting for a host. A potential host-birds, chipmunks, red and grey squirrels- comes by looking for something with water and some ticks attach themselves.

Anything else I can help you with?


Yes, I'm sure that conclusion had nothing to do with everyone pointing out how egregiously stupid the whole idea of watermelon-eating ticks was.

Watermelon is red, blood is red.  What is the problem?  :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2014,11:32   

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LOL.  Joe is trying to revise history again:

 
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Just because I threw some watermelon rinds out into the woods and they collected ticks- yup 8 legs and all- ,which was totally unexpected, evos are having a hissy fit. And yes I did reproduce it.

But that was years ago and it ws a very dry summer. Dry enough to dry out the vernal pool at the bottom of the hill- something that I had also never observed.

I don't know what the ticks were doing there but the more I thought about the more I figured they were hanging out waiting for a host. A potential host-birds, chipmunks, red and grey squirrels- comes by looking for something with water and some ticks attach themselves.

Anything else I can help you with?


Yes, I'm sure that conclusion had nothing to do with everyone pointing out how egregiously stupid the whole idea of watermelon-eating ticks was.

Watermelon is red, blood is red.  What is the problem?  :p

Well the words watermelon and mammal both begin with the same inverted letter so Joe must have observed involution which by logical reversal proves evolution is involuntary. Just keep in mind Joe can't count either so maybe he can't deduce that ID is shafting him at 10 Newtons per fortnight in a sun starved pine forest.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2014,12:10   

Quote (didymos @ Feb. 26 2014,22:34)
LOL.  Joe is trying to revise history again:

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Just because I threw some watermelon rinds out into the woods and they collected ticks- yup 8 legs and all- ,which was totally unexpected, evos are having a hissy fit. And yes I did reproduce it.

But that was years ago and it ws a very dry summer. Dry enough to dry out the vernal pool at the bottom of the hill- something that I had also never observed.

I don't know what the ticks were doing there but the more I thought about the more I figured they were hanging out waiting for a host. A potential host-birds, chipmunks, red and grey squirrels- comes by looking for something with water and some ticks attach themselves.

Anything else I can help you with?


Yes, I'm sure that conclusion had nothing to do with everyone pointing out how egregiously stupid the whole idea of watermelon-eating ticks was.

http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2012....ng.html

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Joe G  July 25, 2012 at 7:50 AM
Really, ticks were on the watermelon. Not there on day one but there on day three.

Don't know if they were eating it or just drinking...


and from ARN:

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"That doesn't count the experiments I conduct in my basement. Some labs would be jealous of the equipment I house & use there.

For example I now know that ticks are more attracted to watermelon rinds then they are to orange peels or orange slices. I also know that dragonflies play."


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 28 2014,07:23   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 27 2014,20:10)
 
Quote (didymos @ Feb. 26 2014,22:34)
LOL.  Joe is trying to revise history again:

   
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Just because I threw some watermelon rinds out into the woods and they collected ticks- yup 8 legs and all- ,which was totally unexpected, evos are having a hissy fit. And yes I did reproduce it.

But that was years ago and it ws a very dry summer. Dry enough to dry out the vernal pool at the bottom of the hill- something that I had also never observed.

I don't know what the ticks were doing there but the more I thought about the more I figured they were hanging out waiting for a host. A potential host-birds, chipmunks, red and grey squirrels- comes by looking for something with water and some ticks attach themselves.

Anything else I can help you with?


Yes, I'm sure that conclusion had nothing to do with everyone pointing out how egregiously stupid the whole idea of watermelon-eating ticks was.

http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2012.......ng.html

 
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Joe G  July 25, 2012 at 7:50 AM
Really, ticks were on the watermelon. Not there on day one but there on day three.

Don't know if they were eating it or just drinking...


and from ARN:

 
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"That doesn't count the experiments I conduct in my basement. Some labs would be jealous of the equipment I house & use there.

For example I now know that ticks are more attracted to watermelon rinds then they are to orange peels or orange slices. I also know that dragonflies play."

I'm sure Joe made a typo there. Doesn't he mean; I also know that Dragonflies pray.

Which begs the question which particular sectarian mythological belief system do Dragonflies belong to?

My own opinion is that Dragonflies are agnostic about dragons.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2014,15:01   

New Joe, determined to invest every discussion and make it about materialism.

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BTW materialism can't account for the sun. Ooops


http://www.skepticink.com/backgro....6262111

The whole thread is typical Joey. He says things and can't understand when he gets called on them. Four years of this shit, now he's following me all the hell over the place. Stupid cowardly fucker.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2014,16:31   

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I said to use Shannon's methodology. And function is observed. Meaning is observed.


IOW, "This looks designed."

lulz galore.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2014,16:38   

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I said to use Shannon's methodology. And function is observed. Meaning is observed.


IOW, "This looks designed."

lulz galore.

We'll add information theory to the large list of things of which JoeTard has zero understanding

 
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   It is important to note that "information" as understood in information theory has nothing to do with any inherent meaning in a message.  It is rather a degree of order, or nonrandomness, that can be measured and treated mathematically much as mass or energy or other physical quantities are.

Claude Shannon:  Information Theory


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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2014,00:12   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 02 2014,00:38)
Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 01 2014,16:31)
   
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I said to use Shannon's methodology. And function is observed. Meaning is observed.


IOW, "This looks designed."

lulz galore.

We'll add information theory to the large list of things of which JoeTard has zero understanding

   
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   It is important to note that "information" as understood in information theory has nothing to do with any inherent meaning in a message.  It is rather a degree of order, or nonrandomness, that can be measured and treated mathematically much as mass or energy or other physical quantities are.

Claude Shannon:  Information Theory

Oh yeah reminds me of Dembski's "use of Shannon's Methodology" .. the zero energy infinite wave boondoggle (which must be one of the great laughs of the academic world). The conclusion was probably as a result of Demski's existential state of mind his God couldn't communicate because the line went dead....second thoughts at least Dembski went to a physical logical limit but drew an physically impossible conclusion, Joe on the other hand hasn't the slightest idea of the consequence of Shannon's Theorem.

Typical of the creationists Joe is only capable of reading the literal meaning of the word information as stated in Shannon's Theorem. Joe equates Shannon Information with knowledge not the statistical probability of a theoretical limit for the successful measurement of an energy state regardless of whether it represents a zero or a one.

Shannon could have used other words altogether such as Symbol Energy Measurement Success instead of Information had he known about the intellectual void people such as Joe have.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2014,06:17   

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Joe helpfully tells us that Laser stands for...

         
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Light Amplification by Stimulations of Emitted Rays

Reminds me of a classic Damon Wayans character from back in the day.


       
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I'd like to continue the 'redundance' of my quote, unquote 'intestinal tract', you see because to preclude on the issue of world domination would only circumvent---excuse me, circumcise the revelation that reflects the 'Afro-disiatic' symptoms which now perpetrates the Jheri Curls activation.

I wonder: has Joe ever had penisary contact with a Volvo?

(R.I.P. James Gandolfini).

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2014,13:41   

JoeTard finally gets something right.  

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Joetard at UD: "Not one of the regulars over on atbc would be welcome in the ID community."


That's because we're honest, we understand scientific methodology, and because we draw conclusions based on the evidence instead of cherry-picking evidence to support our already decided upon conclusion.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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