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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:11   

Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 10 2012,13:07)
Quote (REC @ Feb. 10 2012,13:55)
Wow, sorry about the collateral damage.

Scorched earth over there...and JoeG just got a second warning from Barry, for a post that came 3 hours before his first warning.

Yup, Barry is playing internet tough guy over there:
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Bullwinkle says he is hopelessly befuddled as to the difference between the obscenity directed at me and the phrase “sad and pathetic.” In light of that I decided he would be happier not commenting on this site. Anyone else want to push me today?

Happily, Barry, you lying, hypocritical bitch.  Come play in an open forum.

I think *everyone* wants to push you, Barry. Which is why you hide in your pillow-fort.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:13   

Now, that is very odd.  Axel is accusing me of being a "company man" because I concluded that the exit polls did not in fact indicate that Kerry had beaten Bush in 2004.

He seems to have been an obnoxious DU poster called KCabotDullesMarxIII.

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:13   

Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 10 2012,11:07)
Quote (REC @ Feb. 10 2012,13:55)
Wow, sorry about the collateral damage.

Scorched earth over there...and JoeG just got a second warning from Barry, for a post that came 3 hours before his first warning.

Yup, Barry is playing internet tough guy over there:
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Bullwinkle says he is hopelessly befuddled as to the difference between the obscenity directed at me and the phrase “sad and pathetic.” In light of that I decided he would be happier not commenting on this site. Anyone else want to push me today?

Happily, Barry, you lying, hypocritical bitch.  Come play in an open forum.

Someone had too much of the cheap stuff last night.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:15   

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Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 10 2012,05:15)
I'd say, if Zoe and KF are the same person

I'd vote for not. That emphatic asterisk (I keep looking for a footnote) appears all over Zoe, but not in K/F, and other markers of common descent are absent in the other direction. I don't think he has the wit to keep two personas up-and-running. But the styles, the prose and the smackable certitude are certainly very close cousins.

What is it with creationists and the inappropriate use of punctuation marks?

They think punctuality is a virtue?

  
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:18   

Quote (Febble @ Feb. 10 2012,11:07)
Looks like I have been banned too.

Wait...what?!?!

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:20   

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Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 10 2012,09:35)
Peter Griffin (who, he?) collects together some of Joe's recent insults and pastes them into a single comment.

KF says:
       
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Joe: Pardon, but if you have been speaking in that way [and it looks like the clips are accurate, from your responses . . . ], I suggest you will find it best to dial back your tone a few notches. We in the main need to focus on issues not personalities. Controversial matters are best addressed in that way, otherwise the sidetracks will tend to derail serious discussion. KF

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I agree with KF Joe. You are warned.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-419857

Funny how Joe get's a warning after dozens of "offences" and others are insta-banned after one...

What's the theory du jour on that? Do UD's ban-buttonmen really agree with Joe's stupidity and hypocritically accept his "incivility" because he's on their side, or do they have some evidence that banning him would decrease the number of onlookers at UD?


I believe that they would welcome any nutcase at UD, whether a belligerent asshole or otherwise, as long as that person is not on the 'other side'. The other side being atheism, which to the IDiots is synonymous with evolutionary materialism/methodological naturalism/nihilism/Marxism/scientism/agnosticism/evolutionism/"Darwinism"/pantheism and any other label they come up with that they can put an 'ism' or 'istic' on that isn't inline with their belief in the allegedly omnipotent, omniscient, perfect, abrahamic, supernatural, extra-cosmic, miracle performing, designer/creator sky daddy god.

It's ALL about their religious beliefs, which are based on supernatural mumbo jumbo, and when doubt of the supernatural is expressed or the supernatural is questioned or ridiculed, the IDiots go ape shit. A person MUST believe in the supernatural to fit into the UD gang. 'Materialists' (aka atheists/naturalists) are the evil, hated enemy.

joe is a good example of just how obnoxious, belligerent, dishonest, and stupid a person can be, and be welcome at UD, as long as they promote the supernatural and attack materialists or anything like materialists. I can virtually guarantee that if someone goes to UD and promotes the most outrageous supernatural crap, they will be welcome there as long as they also promote the christian god, which of course is also outrageous supernatural crap.

The IDiots are absolutely enamored with demons, angels, spirits, ghosts, gods, miracles, and other 'mysterious' fairy tales. Reality is abhorrent to them.

You might notice that they even have a problem with theistic evolutionists. They don't want material/natural processes to get ANY of the credit for evolution or anything else. Their supernatural god and/or whatever other supernatural garbage they conjure up must get the credit. That's also the main reason they never nail down definitions/descriptions of their talking points, and make such a big deal about the 'gaps' (whether real or perceived) in any aspect of science. They simply must leave room for something mysterious and supernatural. Even the 'bad' stuff (when they're not ignoring it) is blamed on something supernatural, like demons, a devil, and the all encompassing and ever present 'evil' and 'wickedness' that permeates the entire universe like some sort of bad-boy ghostly spirit that's out to get you and you better watch out!

That reminds me, I need to pick up some garlic and a crucifix at the store to ward off the vampires that are going to come out tonight. Hmm, now where did I leave those wooden stakes and my hammer? :)

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:22   

Barry has impulse control problems. He'll regret the banninations when traffic drops off.

Even the true believers among the 'onlookers' get bored when UD devolves into nothing but batshit77 spam and KF sermons, with no intelligent opposition.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:30   

There you have it. A Friday meltdown. And a fine specimen, too.

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"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:38   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 10 2012,19:30)
There you have it. A Friday meltdown. And a fine specimen, too.

As I said elsewhere, I recon it is because Barry just spent the week being humiliated in court so he has to take it out on someone, anyone. (Apart from his lapgogs of course!)

  
BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:40   

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Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 10 2012,19:30)
There you have it. A Friday meltdown. And a fine specimen, too.

As I said elsewhere, I recon it is because Barry just spent the week being humiliated in court so he has to take it out on someone, anyone. (Apart from his lapgogs of course!)

Lapdogs, not lapgogs. sorry, commenting from my new smartphone.

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:42   

Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 10 2012,09:22)
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 <snip>

A picture of joe, if possible, would be appreciated too. I won't divulge the source, and will treat it with all 'due' respect. ;)

We could have hours of endless fun with that request ...

Joe

LOL!

But shouldn't he be working on a toaster? :)

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,13:58   

Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 10 2012,11:42)
Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 10 2012,09:22)
 
Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 10 2012,11:14)
 <snip>

A picture of joe, if possible, would be appreciated too. I won't divulge the source, and will treat it with all 'due' respect. ;)

We could have hours of endless fun with that request ...

Joe

LOL!

But shouldn't he be working on a toaster? :)

Or feeding his ticks.

(Not a euphemism.  But it ought to be).

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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:05   

Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 10 2012,13:10)
Looking through the most recent posts, Chas D is the only non-creationist left posting.  Can he last the day?

Chas tells me he is deeply offended at not being banned - makes him feel so harmless!  :angry:

Even Bullwinkle gets moosed, for this (or maybe a familiar IP?):

 
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Chomsky described infants deducing the grammar of language from the imperfect spoken samples all around them.

Likewise, I’m struggling to deduce the administrative position on civility here. “Arrogant prick” doesn’t fly, I get that. But “mentally ill, or perhaps a drug addict,” doesn’t draw a comment from the administration, and “sad and pathetic” comes from the administration itself. These are all personal characterizations.

So, what’s the deep structure vis civility at UD? Empirically, it appears to be “We require civility, modulo who your position on ID, and who you are addressing.”


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Evolutionists trust entropy for creation of life but are like men who horse a crocodile to get across a river - niwrad.

The organism could already metabolize citrus. Joe G

If hail is made out of ice and ice came from ice via water, then hail is made out of ice. Joe G

  
Dr. Jammer



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:05   

Robert E. Collins' posts oozed dishonesty, so I have no problem with his banning. He's also chubby with an oddly-shaped head, both of which I consider to be ban-worthy offenses.

I'm a little disappointed that Liz has been banned, though. She's an unreasonable ideologue, without question. The way she (and every other Darwinist there, including Larry Moron) ran from Upright Biped's overwhelming argument for design was shameful, no doubt.

Still, I thought she was an overall positive for the board, who, despite living in a fantasyland, was generally polite. Hopefully either her ban was accidental, or the administrators come to their senses and allow her to stick around.

We'll see.

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:07   

This would be a good time to let UD die, by not engaging them and letting them have their "fun" on their unfairly moderated turf. As doveton said in regard to the "major house cleaning":

"It will be interesting to see what the post count goes down to with no one here to give a compelling reason to comment. Well…except for an occasion “Oh yeah!” and “Couldn’t agree more!” Explain to me where the fun for the pro-IDer is in that exactly?"

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:09   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ Feb. 10 2012,14:05)
The way she (and every other Darwinist there, including Larry Moron) ran from Upright Biped's overwhelming argument for design was shameful, no doubt.

I'm sure that's exactly how Upright remembers it!

Welcome!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:11   

Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 10 2012,20:07)
This would be a good time to let UD die, by not engaging them and letting them have their "fun" on their unfairly moderated turf. As doveton said in regard to the "major house cleaning":

"It will be interesting to see what the post count goes down to with no one here to give a compelling reason to comment. Well…except for an occasion “Oh yeah!” and “Couldn’t agree more!” Explain to me where the fun for the pro-IDer is in that exactly?"

Looks like Doveton is out as well.

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:12   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 10 2012,14:30)
There you have it. A Friday meltdown. And a fine specimen, too.

Could it be the final meltdown?


  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:14   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ Feb. 10 2012,15:05)
The way she (and every other Darwinist there, including Larry Moron) ran from Upright Biped's overwhelming argument for design was shameful, no doubt.

We can still hope that Unpleasant Blowhard gets his dedicated blog up and running. There we can marvel at his use of words he doesn't quite understand (cursed as he is with an IQ above 110, but below 120 - a dangerous zone), and watch him struggle to operationalize his windy claims.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:16   

You know, I am really wondering if the banning of Lizzie might have gone to far for some of UD folks. I don't know that it will have any impact, but I suspect that some of them really enjoyed engaging in debate with her. Of all the dissenting voices there, Lizzie was the only person to consistently show the UD folks genuine respect for their comments and ideas. She didn't agree with them, but she was respectful and responded with respect. I wonder if the loss of that respect won't be felt quite keenly by some of the folks there.

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we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

  
Dr. Jammer



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:17   

Let me also add that I applaud the double-standards of U.D.

Let's face reality here, ladies, gentlemen, and chubby guys with oddly-shaped heads: Darwinists are vitriolic monsters who have no problem with squashing dissenters. Take away Darwin skeptics livelihoods? They'd have it no other way.

My harsh-but-reasonable opinion is that these sorts of people don't deserve fair treatment until proven otherwise.

I think Liz was civil enough to warrant fair treatment, which I why I'm disappointed she was removed.

The rest of you? Trash that was kicked to the curb. I guess that would make this board the local dump. That seems about right.  :p

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:21   

I bet I'm still not banned... not worth the effort to check.  I'm all for letting UD implode into a black hole.

Hmmm... now where is that post that I wrote last year about UD imploding into a black hole of high entropy information?

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:22   

Quote (Febble @ Feb. 10 2012,11:13)
Now, that is very odd.  Axel is accusing me of being a "company man" because I concluded that the exit polls did not in fact indicate that Kerry had beaten Bush in 2004.

He seems to have been an obnoxious DU poster called KCabotDullesMarxIII.

According to doveton, you were "asked to leave".

Think of the words he chose (instead of the word 'banned') and what kind of a delusional fog someone has to be in to be that blind to reality.

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:23   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ Feb. 10 2012,15:17)
Let's face reality here, ladies, gentlemen, and chubby guys with oddly-shaped heads: Darwinists are vitriolic monsters who have no problem with squashing dissenters.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:26   

Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 10 2012,11:58)
Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 10 2012,11:42)
 
Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 10 2012,09:22)
   
Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 10 2012,11:14)
 <snip>

A picture of joe, if possible, would be appreciated too. I won't divulge the source, and will treat it with all 'due' respect. ;)

We could have hours of endless fun with that request ...

Joe

LOL!

But shouldn't he be working on a toaster? :)

Or feeding his ticks.

(Not a euphemism.  But it ought to be).

Is it watermelon season?  :)

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:29   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ Feb. 10 2012,14:05)
I'm a little disappointed that Liz has been banned, though. She's an unreasonable ideologue, without question. The way she (and every other Darwinist there, including Larry Moron) ran from Upright Biped's overwhelming argument for design was shameful, no doubt.

Well, I do recall Uptight almost wetting himself with glee upon the opportunity to present Moran with his BA77-style magnum opus upon informatics ... "fuck it, not interested" was Moran's approximate response. I laughed my socks off. He's a biochemist. The argument was bullshit anyway, but how much time do you really expect people to invest on people's amateur theorising in Blog Comments?

The internet is stuffed to bursting with Groundbreaking New Theories. You really think Uptight Bikeshed was looking for serious scientific opinion on his thesis? Or an opportunity to use his lawyerly guile to persuade the faithful that ID was something more than mere argument from analogy, this passing scientist no match for one such as he?

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The organism could already metabolize citrus. Joe G

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:31   

Looks like the sicker UD creeps are already so bored that they are oozing over here.

Since everyone apparently reads this, could you cut it out with the emails to my work?

Thanks

  
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:31   

Quote (BillB @ Feb. 10 2012,14:11)
Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 10 2012,20:07)
This would be a good time to let UD die, by not engaging them and letting them have their "fun" on their unfairly moderated turf. As doveton said in regard to the "major house cleaning":

"It will be interesting to see what the post count goes down to with no one here to give a compelling reason to comment. Well…except for an occasion “Oh yeah!” and “Couldn’t agree more!” Explain to me where the fun for the pro-IDer is in that exactly?"

Looks like Doveton is out as well.

Wait...what? What happened to Doveton and how do you know the person has been banned?

ETA: Ahh...I see it now. The Voice in the Ceiling:

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UD: Doveton’s out. Anyone else?


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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:34   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ Feb. 10 2012,14:17)
Let me also add that I applaud the double-standards of U.D.

Let's face reality here, ladies, gentlemen, and chubby guys with oddly-shaped heads: Darwinists are vitriolic monsters who have no problem with squashing dissenters. Take away Darwin skeptics livelihoods? They'd have it no other way.

Just curious there Jammer, but when has any "Darwinist" squashed any dissent anywhere? Where has any "Darwinist" taken away any Darwin skeptic's livelihood? I'm just curious to see if you even have any examples.

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we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2012,14:37   

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Take away Darwin skeptics livelihoods?


I'm a Darwin skeptic! He lived before we knew about DNA. And all sorts of other things.

But teh ball. It be a-rollin largely because of him, in the direction he first pushed it. And others too. But big ass sized handprint of Darwin on that old ball.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
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