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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2007,23:38   

"For the kids" is not honest enough to allow comments that make her or her position look foolish go through, so this thread is for cross-posting.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2007,23:58   

On this thread:

https://www2.blogger.com/comment....2096862

For The Kids says this:

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aka...Forthekids said...
Oh, baloney, Jeremy.

That's a stretch, buddy. The concept of ID is no more religiously motivated than Darwinism.


she was pointed to the wedge document:

http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.html

and this passage:

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Governing Goals

To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural and political legacies.
To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God.


She did not allow that post to go through.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,00:56   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 18 2007,06:58)
On this thread:

https://www2.blogger.com/comment....2096862

For The Kids says this:

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aka...Forthekids said...
Oh, baloney, Jeremy.

That's a stretch, buddy. The concept of ID is no more religiously motivated than Darwinism.


she was pointed to the wedge document:

http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.html

and this passage:

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Governing Goals

To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural and political legacies.
To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God.


She did not allow that post to go through.

Well according to her that would count as 'stalking' ...right?

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,01:02   

She's just plain dishonest.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,01:11   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 18 2007,08:02)
She's just plain dishonest.

Obviously, I was rhetorically poking fun since it’s the only sane response to insanity besides completely ignoring them.

FTK unfortunately suffers a credibility crisis, how to lie without lying, she's got the sincerity side of things down pat though.

Now all she has to do is cover up the truth.

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,01:26   

ForkTheKids is pathetic.  She had the gall to categorize me as "one of them".  What an insult!  BTW, she only let me post once in response to DaveTard's accusation that I stalk him.  She omitted to permit my other posts which provided evidence to the contrary.  She can go fellate the pope, for all I care now.

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,01:28   

Crosspost here, so her duplicity is evident.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,08:28   

I thought about starting an Official Forthekids Thread a while back, but she doesn't say enough and hardly allows anyone else to talk. But this thread for cross-posting might be valuable.

She doesn't have much personality. She just seems like a female Joe G.

   
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,08:32   

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She doesn't have much personality.
Nor would I have thought she would have much influence on anyone with half a brain. But, then, I am so ignorant of real US culture, I am probably wrong ???

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,08:36   

What was the "cootie" thingie with Jujuquisp all about, BTW?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,11:17   

Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 18 2007,07:32)
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She doesn't have much personality.
Nor would I have thought she would have much influence on anyone with half a brain. But, then, I am so ignorant of real US culture, I am probably wrong ???

I suppose it's true everywhere, but in all my travels around this country, I meet a surprising number of people with less than half a brain.  To them, she probably looks brilliant.

I should also mention that the .4-brainers are in the minority (not always a clear minority, but a minority all the same).

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,12:34   

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What was the "cootie" thingie with Jujuquisp all about, BTW?


They found out about my body lice infestation.

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,13:08   

Quote (jujuquisp @ Mar. 18 2007,06:34)
 
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What was the "cootie" thingie with Jujuquisp all about, BTW?


They found out about my body lice infestation.

Mmm'kay???

  
slpage



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2007,11:16   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 18 2007,07:28)
I thought about starting an Official Forthekids Thread a while back, but she doesn't say enough and hardly allows anyone else to talk. But this thread for cross-posting might be valuable.

She doesn't have much personality. She just seems like a female Joe G.

She is one of those 'just folks' types, who can 'see through the BS' and get to the truth.

At least that is how she likes to portray herself.

I think she is a moron, myself.  I'
ve tried to post at her blog about 6 times - none made it through.  Of course...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2007,14:07   

Quote (jujuquisp @ Mar. 18 2007,11:34)
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What was the "cootie" thingie with Jujuquisp all about, BTW?


They found out about my body lice infestation.

Now how would FTK have found that out?

:O

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2007,09:58   

Here:

https://www2.blogger.com/comment....1993673

is taken to task for her coverage of the wedge document:

 
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1) Re your extensive treatment of the "Wedge Document", that must have been on some other sites. A search for "wedge" on this blog reveals three citations.


so she was clearly dishonest when she says:

 
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Richard, the reason why I didn't put your comment about the Wedge document through is because I have addressed that issue so many times in the past that it simply gets tiring. If you're interested in my response about it, go back through my archives and read to your hearts content.


She then says :

 
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Dembski's flatulence comments were the only questionable comments he's ever made beside the silliness of the "vice strategy".


Let's not get into a ~who's the nastiness~ contest because that's one you'll not win.

To be fair, she talks a little about it here:

http://reasonablekansans.blogspot.com/2006....0159138

although she fails to understand causality, it's explicit theism pretending to be science, not science that has theistic implications. Her tail wags her dog.
to which I've replied:

 
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The ID Side has a history of dishonesty & nastiness:

The Wedge document and its true agenda

Dembski's "Street theatre"

The Pianka affair

The Single bottle of malt scotch bet:

The EF: never used, unusable.

Davescot; any comment really!

etc.


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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2007,12:52   

In case this doesn't make it:

DaveScot said:

"Red State Rabble is a real joke. Witless, classless wimp Pat Hayes doesn't even enable comments. If not cowardice I'm not sure why since he doesn't have any semblance of refinement to guard. "

There appear to be comments on his blog, Dave. I assume you'll be apologizing?

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2007,13:08   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 20 2007,11:52)
In case this doesn't make it:

DaveScot said:

"Red State Rabble is a real joke. Witless, classless wimp Pat Hayes doesn't even enable comments. If not cowardice I'm not sure why since he doesn't have any semblance of refinement to guard. "

There appear to be comments on his blog, Dave. I assume you'll be apologizing?

I assume now that DaveTard has had this change of heart, he'll unblock everyone he's banned at UD and start spending more time commenting at blogs where people can respond to him, no?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2007,13:13   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 20 2007,12:08)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 20 2007,11:52)
In case this doesn't make it:

DaveScot said:

"Red State Rabble is a real joke. Witless, classless wimp Pat Hayes doesn't even enable comments. If not cowardice I'm not sure why since he doesn't have any semblance of refinement to guard. "

There appear to be comments on his blog, Dave. I assume you'll be apologizing?

I assume now that DaveTard has had this change of heart, he'll unblock everyone he's banned at UD and start spending more time commenting at blogs where people can respond to him, no?

Indeed. No one could ever accuse DaveTard of being a hypocrite....



*bites tongue*

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2007,19:27   

FTK has asked about the evolution of the heart.

she has been pointed to this:

http://www.annalsnyas.org/cgi/content/abstract/1047/1/13

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2007,10:33   

Sometimes RSR's comments do momentarily disappear - I suspect this is due to Pat updating something and to the fact that blogger sucks - blogger sometimes won't let me comment on my own #### blog! :angry:

I think I can access the full PDF of the heart article if people can't get beyond the abstract.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2007,22:16   

This whole thread is worth a read, especially the bit about "Dembski's day job"..

https://www2.blogger.com/comment....5661756

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2007,00:01   

For The Kids Writes:

http://reasonablekansans.blogspot.com/2007....ts.html

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Hard telling what parts of the Bible they do accept. They're not exactly sure. I suppose only the parts that don't conflict with the current beliefs of the "scientific community".


I asked her which bits she believed. She didn't post my comment, nor answer the questions. If she doubts science so much, I'd love to hear her better explanation.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2007,08:46   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 24 2007,21:16)
This whole thread is worth a read, especially the bit about "Dembski's day job"..

https://www2.blogger.com/comment....5661756

Richard - Good catch - thanks for posting the link.  What is REALLY interesting though,  is who the "Dave" poster is (not DaveScot - him I do NOT want to know).  The Smart Dave asks For The Kids some very good questions, which she dodges, but he calls her and DaveScot out on not answering the questions,  so good job SmartDave.

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2007,17:39   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 27 2007,07:46)
 What is REALLY interesting though,  is who the "Dave" poster is (not DaveScot - him I do NOT want to know).  The Smart Dave asks For The Kids some very good questions, which she dodges, but he calls her and DaveScot out on not answering the questions,  so good job SmartDave.

(steps forward)

I am Spartacus.


    No, *I* am Spartacus . . .


I'm Spartacus. . . .


       I am Spartacus . . . . . . . .

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2007,18:15   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Mar. 27 2007,16:39)
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 27 2007,07:46)
 What is REALLY interesting though,  is who the "Dave" poster is (not DaveScot - him I do NOT want to know).  The Smart Dave asks For The Kids some very good questions, which she dodges, but he calls her and DaveScot out on not answering the questions,  so good job SmartDave.

(steps forward)

I am Spartacus.


    No, *I* am Spartacus . . .


I'm Spartacus. . . .


       I am Spartacus . . . . . . . .

Spartacus - Good luck with the slave revolt thing, man.  Let me know if I can help.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2007,10:31   

Well, now that FtK has joined up here, I can come out of the closet! I'm Dave (really). I had an account here as Albatrossity, but somehow that account disappeared, so when I tried to post yesterday, I was told that the username was not on the list of registered users... Richard was kind enough to forward my tale of woe to stevestory, and he forwarded it to Wesley, but as of today I still could not log in with that username.

So I did what appears to be a common thing (judging from the list of members, at least); I created a second account as Albatrossity2.

Background info and website

http://www.ksu.edu/biology/bio/faculty/rintoul/rintoul.html

I am a biology professor at KSU in Manhattan KS, my research interests are broad (ranging from lipid metabolism to stable isotope studies in grassland birds), and I also am charged with coordinating our large intro bio course every fall semester. Given my location in KS, the ID controversy has occupied a fair amount of my time and interest in the last few years, and I have participated in several local events sponsored by Sigma Xi and our local Center for the Understanding of Origins (a multidisciplinary group of scientists and scholars in Biology, Physics, Entomology, Geology, Philosophy and English) dedicated to increasing understanding of science and how it works.

Thanks for the kind words, and I thank you also for the insights and understandings that all of your posts have given to me!

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2007,10:37   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Mar. 27 2007,16:39)
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 27 2007,07:46)
 What is REALLY interesting though,  is who the "Dave" poster is (not DaveScot - him I do NOT want to know).  The Smart Dave asks For The Kids some very good questions, which she dodges, but he calls her and DaveScot out on not answering the questions,  so good job SmartDave.

(steps forward)

I am Spartacus.


    No, *I* am Spartacus . . .


I'm Spartacus. . . .


       I am Spartacus . . . . . . . .

I'm Spartacus and so's my wife!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2007,10:57   

Welcome Dave!

It's great to have another top notch biologist on board*



*Don't read that like I'm also a biologist. I do the Jokes KE turns down.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2007,11:05   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Mar. 28 2007,09:31)
Well, now that FtK has joined up here, I can come out of the closet! I'm Dave (really). I had an account here as Albatrossity, but somehow that account disappeared, so when I tried to post yesterday, I was told that the username was not on the list of registered users... Richard was kind enough to forward my tale of woe to stevestory, and he forwarded it to Wesley, but as of today I still could not log in with that username.

So I did what appears to be a common thing (judging from the list of members, at least); I created a second account as Albatrossity2.

Background info and website

http://www.ksu.edu/biology/bio/faculty/rintoul/rintoul.html

I am a biology professor at KSU in Manhattan KS, my research interests are broad (ranging from lipid metabolism to stable isotope studies in grassland birds), and I also am charged with coordinating our large intro bio course every fall semester. Given my location in KS, the ID controversy has occupied a fair amount of my time and interest in the last few years, and I have participated in several local events sponsored by Sigma Xi and our local Center for the Understanding of Origins (a multidisciplinary group of scientists and scholars in Biology, Physics, Entomology, Geology, Philosophy and English) dedicated to increasing understanding of science and how it works.

Thanks for the kind words, and I thank you also for the insights and understandings that all of your posts have given to me!

Congrats on a job well done and welcome aboard!

(It'll be nice to have another bird freak posting here. ;) )

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