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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,15:51   

hmmm something went wrong here. Ignore this!

Louis

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,16:31   

Louis,

Suppressing yer feelings like that can be bad - tell us how you really feel! ;)

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,16:36   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 08 2010,15:38)
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 08 2010,14:04)
OUCH!  I didn't realize that "Lacey Cuskin" and changing the first / last first initials was a JAD procedure.

How could anyone forget Dilliam Wembski or Spravid Dinger?

For that matter, what about our very own Elsey Welsberry or Falan Ox?

It's hard to believe, isn't it?

Carlson - you are my hero - you must have the World's Best Filing System!!!111 - to preserve and link to some outstanding past history.  

And if there are any new "onlookers",  perhaps from Dr. Dembski's Philo class - I recommend giving the links a good look.  There is some classic stuff, including the Rich vs DaveScot thread, where Brave Sir Davey ran away, and JAD exploded and took over the thread.

and BTW Carlson - thanks!  Good stuff.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,16:39   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 08 2010,15:51)
hmmm something went wrong here. Ignore this!

Louis

You should have told me to ignore it before I read it.  :angry:

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,16:51   

Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Mar. 08 2010,21:39)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 08 2010,15:51)
hmmm something went wrong here. Ignore this!

Louis

You should have told me to ignore it before I read it.  :angry:

My bad entirely.

For the record, I will also get off your lawn. I am fully congniscent of the fact that my music is basically a load of noise, and that I know nothing about nothing.

Louis

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,16:52   

Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 08 2010,21:31)
Louis,

Suppressing yer feelings like that can be bad - tell us how you really feel! ;)

Henry

Basically I typed something that went into some memory hole somewhere due to a quirk of software or me mistyping something. I decided that telling people to ignore a post was funnier than the original post, so I went with that.

I also punched a wall, so we're all good!

Louis

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,18:48   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 08 2010,13:27)
Oh, you mean Casey "Tits" Luskin.

Ah, ERV (sigh).

"Smart women are so hot." -- Xander Harris.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,18:53   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 08 2010,14:36)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 08 2010,15:38)
 
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 08 2010,14:04)
OUCH!  I didn't realize that "Lacey Cuskin" and changing the first / last first initials was a JAD procedure.

How could anyone forget Dilliam Wembski or Spravid Dinger?

For that matter, what about our very own Elsey Welsberry or Falan Ox?

It's hard to believe, isn't it?

Carlson - you are my hero - you must have the World's Best Filing System!!!111 - to preserve and link to some outstanding past history.  

And if there are any new "onlookers",  perhaps from Dr. Dembski's Philo class - I recommend giving the links a good look.  There is some classic stuff, including the Rich vs DaveScot thread, where Brave Sir Davey ran away, and JAD exploded and took over the thread.

and BTW Carlson - thanks!  Good stuff.

OMFG.

The Dilliam Wembski link led me to "Devastatin' Dave, the Turntable Slave."

You guys are awesome (sniff).

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2010,00:17   

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Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 08 2010,16:53)
Carlson - you are my hero - you must have the World's Best Filing System!!!111 - to preserve and link to some outstanding past history.  

And if there are any new "onlookers",  perhaps from Dr. Dembski's Philo class - I recommend giving the links a good look.  There is some classic stuff, including the Rich vs DaveScot thread, where Brave Sir Davey ran away, and JAD exploded and took over the thread.

and BTW Carlson - thanks!  Good stuff.

OMFG.

The Dilliam Wembski link led me to "Devastatin' Dave, the Turntable Slave."

You guys are awesome (sniff).


And of course ... we love it so!

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2010,20:20   

I am determined to help Luskin win the NCSE UpChucky Award for 2010.

If we all clap I'm sure he can do it!

Luskin continues his series on Court Cases Where ID Lost Big Time with a 1,400 word review of the Selman vs Cobb County, Ga. decision in which a school board was forced to remove stickers it had placed on biology textbooks declaring the Theory of Evolution to be "only a theory" etc etc, praise ID and buy my book.  Love, Denyse.

Well, breathlessly, I read Luskin's 1,400 word essay in which our favorite attack gerbil went to great lengths to describe why the NCSE was wrong, why the judges were wrong* and why EVERYBODY was just plain wrong in not on the decision, but the analysis and reporting of the decision which, after all, was decided

On.  Other.  Grounds.

What "grounds" (play grounds?  coffee grounds?  grounds for divorce?) Luskin, alas, never says.  I guess it's a mystery or a secret or something.

So, well played, Gerb!  By leaving "On Other Grounds" open he can pen another 1,400 word essay or two.  There could be an entire series, like 24.

Srsly.  Give me a Sharpie and I can make Jack Bauer look like Luskin. I just need a few minutes.



*extra points for working Judge Jones and Kitzmiller into this essay, although totally irrelevant.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2010,04:28   

Casey defines the scientific method and shows how ID is science. Same old, same old. However, the only relevant quote:
 
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We don't recommend pushing ID into the curriculum in public schools


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2010,05:08   

Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Mar. 18 2010,05:28)
Casey defines the scientific method and shows how ID is science. Same old, same old. However, the only relevant quote:
   
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We don't recommend pushing ID into the curriculum in public schools

Casey is such a moron.

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A biology educator recently wrote me asking how blah blah blah...
   
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Dear [Snip],


Casey you fucking moron, if you don't want the public to know to whom the letter was addressed, you might not want to announce that it was you in the very first sentence of your post. If the letter was not addressed to you, then why say that it was? Are you just a compulsive liar? ....oh, nevermind.

Note that the letter goes on about finding CSI and IC and "large amounts of novel information", but never actually mentions how that calculation is done, or suggesting an example. The omission of "...by counting the such and so" or "...such as the bacterial flagellum" is so glaring it could blind someone. I don't think anyone is going to believe that's a letter from some random "biology educator".

Who really wrote it, Casey? Dembski?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2010,10:18   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 18 2010,06:08)
Casey is such a moron.

   
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A biology educator recently wrote me asking how blah blah blah...
       
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Dear [Snip],


Casey you fucking moron, if you don't want the public to know to whom the letter was addressed, you might not want to announce that it was you in the very first sentence of your post. If the letter was not addressed to you, then why say that it was? Are you just a compulsive liar? ....oh, nevermind.

Um...Lou.

Casey posted his response to the "biology educator." The [Snip] is the biology educator's name.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2010,18:15   

Quote (Jasper @ Mar. 18 2010,11:18)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 18 2010,06:08)
Casey is such a moron.

   
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A biology educator recently wrote me asking how blah blah blah...
       
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Dear [Snip],


Casey you fucking moron, if you don't want the public to know to whom the letter was addressed, you might not want to announce that it was you in the very first sentence of your post. If the letter was not addressed to you, then why say that it was? Are you just a compulsive liar? ....oh, nevermind.

Um...Lou.

Casey posted his response to the "biology educator." The [Snip] is the biology educator's name.

Yep, I misread. Mibad, Casey. You go on with your bad self.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2010,19:42   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 18 2010,18:15)
Yep, I misread. Mibad, Casey. You go on with your bad self.

Lou..



thanks carlsonjok...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,18:57   

This installment of Casey Reports, aka the Attack Gerbil Squeaks, finds our junior scribe scouring the media for negative reporting against his pal and fellow theocrat Stephen Meier.  Now, to be fair, Steven Mayer has received quite a number of negative reviews for his book, Something in the Cell, so it's been difficult for the Casemeister to find positive, impartial scholarly reports.

HOWEVER!  Leaving no stone unturned the Casester found not one, no, not one, boys and girls, but TWO, count 'em, TWO positive reviews of Something or Another in the Cell or Whatever.

Casekey reports in Evo Snooze and Booze the following:  

Two Articles Defending Stephen Meyer and Signature in the Cell in Salvo Magazine

Yes!  Two positive reviews written by some science and legal scholar named

Casey Luskin

Isn't that amazing???  Casey found his Own Stuff with his bare hands.  Wonders never cease!

Here's a summary of what Casey wrote boiled down to the nitty gritty:

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Wow, just wow!  Stephe Moyer is certainly to have someone like Casey as a fiend.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2010,14:01   

Casey has been attacking Michael Zimmerman, founder of the Clergy Project.

The link is his response to the crazed gerbil.  

Luskin & Discovery Blasted

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2010,16:00   

I got a note from Future Casey about the article he's going to post on his academically censored, locked-down, no comments permitted, no dissenting views permitted, no nothing no how permitted website about how Michael Zimmerman committed the following egregious errors:

1. misrepresented the Disco Tute
2. misrepresented "intelligent design"
3. conflated "intelligent design" with unScientific Biblical Kreationism
4. used ad hominid attacks on Casey calling him an "attorney"
5. incorrectly construed the DI as a "right wing biblical think tank" rather than a "right wing Biblical think tank"
6. was mean, insulting and uncivil
7. built strawmen out of canards
8. unfairly references the Wedge "oh, what, that old thing?" Document

Squeaks to commence in three, two, one ...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2010,16:04   

Quote (Doc Bill @ April 09 2010,16:00)
I got a note from Future Casey about the article he's going to post on his academically censored, locked-down, no comments permitted, no dissenting views permitted, no nothing no how permitted website about how Michael Zimmerman committed the following egregious errors:

1. misrepresented the Disco Tute
2. misrepresented "intelligent design"
3. conflated "intelligent design" with unScientific Biblical Kreationism
4. used ad hominid attacks on Casey calling him an "attorney"
5. incorrectly construed the DI as a "right wing biblical think tank" rather than a "right wing Biblical think tank"
6. was mean, insulting and uncivil
7. built strawmen out of canards
8. unfairly references the Wedge "oh, what, that old thing?" Document

Squeaks to commence in three, two, one ...

Did Casey say whether or not he was going to forgive Zimmerman?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2010,16:37   

carlsonjok et al:  If we had Zimmerman's email address, we (meaning you, as it's " creator designer,) could send Z the Famous Luskin Kitteh Furgives You!

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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2010,19:48   

Is it me or does Luskin just keep getting dunmber and dumber?

My favorite part comes at the end of the post:

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In both cases, we're talking about strong selection pressure causing a couple changes (or even just one change) in the amino acid sequence of structural proteins. No new functions or structures are evolving and all we've seen is the loss of the ability of a toxin to bind to its target -- a protein involved in sodium channels. This is similar to the breaking down of a function -- losing the ability to bind through a mutation. Interesting and important research for sure, but if we're trying to showcase ""just what is the evidence" for the grander claims of Darwinian evolution, this will not suffice.


So, according to Luskin gaining tetrodotoxin resistance is a loss of functions? WTF?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2010,20:56   

Quote (afarensis @ July 29 2010,19:48)
Is it me or does Luskin just keep getting dunmber and dumber?

My favorite part comes at the end of the post:

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In both cases, we're talking about strong selection pressure causing a couple changes (or even just one change) in the amino acid sequence of structural proteins. No new functions or structures are evolving and all we've seen is the loss of the ability of a toxin to bind to its target -- a protein involved in sodium channels. This is similar to the breaking down of a function -- losing the ability to bind through a mutation. Interesting and important research for sure, but if we're trying to showcase ""just what is the evidence" for the grander claims of Darwinian evolution, this will not suffice.


So, according to Luskin gaining tetrodotoxin resistance is a loss of functions? WTF?

Two possibilities:

1) It's losing the ability to die and go be with Bacterial Jesus.  

2) It's a loss of the "gap" function in which Casey's god can hide itself.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2010,22:17   

Quote (afarensis @ July 29 2010,19:48)
Is it me or does Luskin just keep getting dunmber and dumber?

My favorite part comes at the end of the post:

 
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In both cases, we're talking about strong selection pressure causing a couple changes (or even just one change) in the amino acid sequence of structural proteins. No new functions or structures are evolving and all we've seen is the loss of the ability of a toxin to bind to its target -- a protein involved in sodium channels. This is similar to the breaking down of a function -- losing the ability to bind through a mutation. Interesting and important research for sure, but if we're trying to showcase ""just what is the evidence" for the grander claims of Darwinian evolution, this will not suffice.


So, according to Luskin gaining tetrodotoxin resistance is a loss of functions? WTF?

Sure, ask any IDiot:   It lost the ability to not resist tetrodotoxin.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 30 2010,04:45   

And I read Caseykin's screed, lost 10 IQ points, but in Darwinian terms gained dumbness.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 30 2010,10:57   

Quote (afarensis @ July 29 2010,19:48)
Is it me or does Luskin just keep getting dunmber and dumber?

My favorite part comes at the end of the post:

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In both cases, we're talking about strong selection pressure causing a couple changes (or even just one change) in the amino acid sequence of structural proteins. No new functions or structures are evolving and all we've seen is the loss of the ability of a toxin to bind to its target -- a protein involved in sodium channels. This is similar to the breaking down of a function -- losing the ability to bind through a mutation. Interesting and important research for sure, but if we're trying to showcase ""just what is the evidence" for the grander claims of Darwinian evolution, this will not suffice.


So, according to Luskin gaining tetrodotoxin resistance is a loss of functions? WTF?

And lactose tolerance would be losing the information for lactose intolerance.

Heads I win, tails you lose!

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(Permalink) Posted: July 30 2010,12:13   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ July 30 2010,08:57)
And lactose tolerance would be losing the information for lactose intolerance.

Heads I win, tails you lose!

Well, sure, see, you lost the ability to shut off lactase production.

Resistance/immunity to any disease is the loss of binding ability.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 11 2011,17:15   

Christians call Casey Luskin out his credentials and the DI out on its science.  Where's the love?

Alas, for Casey, they are already furgiven.

http://www.patheos.com/communi....omments

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2011,07:41   

Quote (Sealawr @ Jan. 11 2011,17:15)
Christians call Casey Luskin out his credentials and the DI out on its science.  Where's the love?

Alas, for Casey, they are already furgiven.

http://www.patheos.com/communi....omments

Thanks for the link - it's always good to see Luskin get served, especially from the theo side.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2011,08:14   

Why am I so weak?  Drawn to the tard, I am.

Here's what the Boy Gerbil, Casey, says about his own self on that site:

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Who are the experts? Well, I’m an evangelical Christian and I hold two degrees in earth sciences from UC San Diego where I studied evolution, including the fossil record, extensively at both the undergraduate and graduate levels. If I was a neo-Darwinian evolutionist, you’d probably call me an “expert.”


Well, I guess it's not Tooooooo bad.  At least he put "expert" in scare quotes where it belongs.

Luskin studied the fossil record EXTENSIVELY????


Bwahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!  What a total, fucking liar.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2011,09:53   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 12 2011,08:14)
Well, I guess it's not Tooooooo bad.  At least he put "expert" in scare quotes where it belongs.

Luskin studied the fossil record EXTENSIVELY????


Bwahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!  What a total, fucking liar.


Hi Casey !  BTW, someonething is looking for you ...

http://www.youtube.com/user/LuskinsConscience

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