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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2013,23:02   

Here in the great state of Mizzou-rah! we are trying to redefine science as "faith based philosophy".  MO HB291

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2013,23:13   

By "we" I mean the sponsors of the bill.  It is not currently on the calendar and may never get a hearing.  But bills like this garner a not insignificant amount of support in Missouri, especially the southern (non Kansas City or St Louis) areas.

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Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2013,16:43   

I used to know several people from Springfield who pronounced the state's name as Misery.

Having taught in Columbia years ago, it's the other sane part of the state besides the two big cities.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2013,18:05   

My mother's home state is Mizurah.

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Timothy McDougald



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2013,18:24   

I've lived in Missouri pretty much all my life and the longer I live here the nuttier the State gets. That being said that bill reads like it was written by the discotute.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2013,19:47   

That is some stupid shit there.

Damn.

I'm channeling Erasmus, but I know how he feels after reading that.

Just redefine everything.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2013,19:53   

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"Scientific theory", an inferred explanation of incompletely understood phenomena about the physical universe based on limited knowledge, whose components are data, logic, and faith-based philosophy.


SERIOUSLY!?!?!?!?

You can redefine it however you like guys, it doesn't make it true.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2013,21:33   

Aw, come on!  Give the Missouri legislator (Republican) Brattin a break!

After all, he only has a high school education and a Missouri one at that.

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2013,21:33   

I blogged about this here:

Redefining Words Doesn't Change the Concept

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2013,01:08   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 13 2013,21:33)
Aw, come on!  Give the Missouri legislator (Republican) Brattin a break!

After all, he only has a high school education and a Missouri one at that.

Hey! I have a Missouri High School education...right, carry on.

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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2013,06:38   

Quote (blipey @ Feb. 13 2013,05:02)
Here in the great state of Mizzou-rah! we are trying to redefine science as "faith based philosophy".  MO HB291

Hehehe. Also in the pipeline: a rebranding to the "Were You There?" State.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2013,11:30   

Quote (blipey @ Feb. 14 2013,01:08)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 13 2013,21:33)
Aw, come on!  Give the Missouri legislator (Republican) Brattin a break!

After all, he only has a high school education and a Missouri one at that.

Hey! I have a Missouri High School education...right, carry on.

Yeah, and so does FtK!


Ouch!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2013,11:55   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 14 2013,07:38)
Quote (blipey @ Feb. 13 2013,05:02)
Here in the great state of Mizzou-rah! we are trying to redefine science as "faith based philosophy".  MO HB291

Hehehe. Also in the pipeline: a rebranding to the "Were You There?" State.

ahem

WHERE YOU THEY'RE???///???


ftfy

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RupertG



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2013,12:30   

I don't suppose they're also defining religion and politics as based on 'no data, no logic and a faith-based philosophy'?

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