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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,10:36   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 28 2012,22:37)
Quote (keiths @ Mar. 28 2012,18:07)
Billions of "privileged planets" in our own galaxy.

DUH. Brilliant scientist Joe G has already refudiated this:

http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2012.......fs.html

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Until radar observations in 1965 proved otherwise, it was thought that Mercury was tidally locked with the Sun.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....locking

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,14:19   

Via Inside Higher Ed: Study Tracks Erosion of Conservative Confidence in Science.

Surprise, surprise, it's not really evolution, but their own selfishness - they like what butters their bread, but hate what may give their adult children bread (e.g., government regulation on emissions).

This is why the FTK-Luskin argument that "we have more kids than you Darwinists, therefore we'll win" is ridiculous. Reality will cram the "global climate change hoax" (and enforced vaccination) down their children's throats.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,14:47   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 29 2012,14:19)
Via Inside Higher Ed: Study Tracks Erosion of Conservative Confidence in Science.

Surprise, surprise, it's not really evolution, but their own selfishness - they like what butters their bread, but hate what may give their adult children bread (e.g., government regulation on emissions).

This is why the FTK-Luskin argument that "we have more kids than you Darwinists, therefore we'll win" is ridiculous. Reality will cram the "global climate change hoax" (and enforced vaccination) down their children's throats.

This is actually pretty scary though.

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Timothy McDougald



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,15:57   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 29 2012,14:19)
Via Inside Higher Ed: Study Tracks Erosion of Conservative Confidence in Science.

Surprise, surprise, it's not really evolution, but their own selfishness - they like what butters their bread, but hate what may give their adult children bread (e.g., government regulation on emissions).

This is why the FTK-Luskin argument that "we have more kids than you Darwinists, therefore we'll win" is ridiculous. Reality will cram the "global climate change hoax" (and enforced vaccination) down their children's throats.

The article Inside Higher Education is talking about is open access and is available here for those who are interested...

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,19:04   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 29 2012,11:36)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 28 2012,22:37)
 
Quote (keiths @ Mar. 28 2012,18:07)
Billions of "privileged planets" in our own galaxy.

DUH. Brilliant scientist Joe G has already refudiated this:

http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2012.......fs.html

 
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Until radar observations in 1965 proved otherwise, it was thought that Mercury was tidally locked with the Sun.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.......locking

I recall cutting that out of a newspaper to take to show high school science teacher.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,21:25   

Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 29 2012,13:57)
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 29 2012,14:19)
Via Inside Higher Ed: Study Tracks Erosion of Conservative Confidence in Science.

Surprise, surprise, it's not really evolution, but their own selfishness - they like what butters their bread, but hate what may give their adult children bread (e.g., government regulation on emissions).

This is why the FTK-Luskin argument that "we have more kids than you Darwinists, therefore we'll win" is ridiculous. Reality will cram the "global climate change hoax" (and enforced vaccination) down their children's throats.

The article Inside Higher Education is talking about is open access and is available here for those who are interested...

Thanks for that link. (The BUMC Proceedings paper will benefit)

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2012,17:26   

Bad news for evilution. Half life of samarium off by 30 percent. Therefore Jebus.

http://www.newscientist.com/article....rs.html

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sledgehammer



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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2012,02:03   

Quote (midwifetoad @ April 01 2012,15:26)
Bad news for evilution. Half life of samarium off by 30 percent. Therefore Jebus.

http://www.newscientist.com/article....rs.html

OMG!!!! †The solar system, instead of 4500My is only 3800My!!!
Do you know what this means!!! . † Radiochronology is doomed I tells ya! †Doomed!! †
Coppedge, with his ASS=0.0065My, was almost right after all.

[/snark]

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2012,05:23   

The overall effect on dates is a fraction of that.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2012,10:11   

The fable of the good samarium?

  
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2012,03:27   

I haven't had time to read this yet, but it looks interesting, relevant to ID, and it open access so even GEM of TKI can read it.

Basler et al. (2012) Evolutionary significance of metabolic network properties. J. R. Soc. Interface 9: 1168-1176. DOI: 10.1098/rsif.2011.0652

If anyone would like to summarise it, please do so that I don't have to read the paper myself. :-)

(Editted to correct DOI)

Edited by Bob O'H on April 23 2012,11:42

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2012,04:52   

Quote


The DOI you requested --

10.1098/

-- cannot be found in the Handle System.

Possible reasons for the error are:

   the DOI has not been created
   the DOI is cited incorrectly in your source
   the DOI does not resolve due to a system problem

The DOI you requested included a trailing slash character (/) which may be incorrect. Click here to attempt to resolve the DOI without the slash. Please note that a DOI with and without a trailing slash are different identifers and will likely return different results.


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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2012,11:43   

Bummer. A question mark inserted itself. Hopefully the link works now: it does for me, at least.

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2012,14:28   

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 23 2012,11:43)
Bummer. A question mark inserted itself. Hopefully the link works now: it does for me, at least.

it works - but the two links point to the same document, the abstract that took me less than a minute to read. (Understanding is another matter;-)

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dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2012,17:19   

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....117.htm

Xeno-nucleic acids evolving aptamer function in vesicles? Cue Cornelius Hunter meltdown in 3... 2...

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2012,10:29   

http://arxiv.org/pdf....920.pdf

Robustness Against Extinction by Stochastic Sex Determination in Small Populations

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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2012,19:33   

Sharks with fricken lasers

'Nuff said.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2012,09:27   

Quote (Badger3k @ May 04 2012,18:33)
Sharks with fricken lasers

'Nuff said.

Shields up! Lasers on stun!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 08 2012,15:22   

http://www.scripps.edu/news....ux.html

Scripps Research Institute Scientists Show How a Gene Duplication Helped our Brains Become 'Human'


Also consistent with Baraminology.

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dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2012,15:54   

10^14 free floating planets per galaxy, harboring life??

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....217.htm

Sir Fred Hoyle is popular with the ID crowd for his "tornado in a junkyard" phrase, and the implied fine tuning argument in the stellar nucleo-synthesis of carbon that supposedly made him a Deist.

His panspermia ideas, not so much.

Here, Hoyle's longtime collaborator continues to work on the panspermia concept, hypothesizing that a huge number of free floating planets formed early in the life of the universe. These planets could host life, and as they transit through solar systems could be responsible for mixing the biological component of the entire galaxy.

Of course, all this has done is push back the difficulty of the origin of life question to a remote time and place in the universe.

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sledgehammer



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2012,20:31   

Quote (dvunkannon @ May 12 2012,13:54)
10^14 free floating planets per galaxy, harboring life??

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....217.htm

Sir Fred Hoyle is popular with the ID crowd for his "tornado in a junkyard" phrase, and the implied fine tuning argument in the stellar nucleo-synthesis of carbon that supposedly made him a Deist.

His panspermia ideas, not so much.

Here, Hoyle's longtime collaborator continues to work on the panspermia concept, hypothesizing that a huge number of free floating planets formed early in the life of the universe. These planets could host life, and as they transit through solar systems could be responsible for mixing the biological component of the entire galaxy.

Of course, all this has done is push back the difficulty of the origin of life question to a remote time and place in the universe.

True that, but it could also more than double the time available for OOL, and provide more options for chemical environments and energy sources.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,07:00   

Georgia State mostly correct on fair use

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A federal judge in Atlanta has handed down a long-awaited ruling in a lawsuit brought by three scholarly publishers against Georgia State University over its use of copyrighted material in electronic reserves. The ruling, delivered on Friday, looks mostly like a victory for the university, finding that only five of 99 alleged copyright infringements did in fact violate the plaintiffs' copyrights.

"My initial reaction is, honestly, what a crushing defeat for the publishers," said Brandon C. Butler, the director of public-policy initiatives for the Association of Research Libraries. Given how few claims the publishers won, "there's a 95 percent success rate for the GSU fair-use policy." The ruling suggests that Georgia State is "getting it almost entirely right" with its current copyright policy, he said.


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dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,08:37   

Quote (sledgehammer @ May 12 2012,21:31)
Quote (dvunkannon @ May 12 2012,13:54)
10^14 free floating planets per galaxy, harboring life??

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....217.htm

Sir Fred Hoyle is popular with the ID crowd for his "tornado in a junkyard" phrase, and the implied fine tuning argument in the stellar nucleo-synthesis of carbon that supposedly made him a Deist.

His panspermia ideas, not so much.

Here, Hoyle's longtime collaborator continues to work on the panspermia concept, hypothesizing that a huge number of free floating planets formed early in the life of the universe. These planets could host life, and as they transit through solar systems could be responsible for mixing the biological component of the entire galaxy.

Of course, all this has done is push back the difficulty of the origin of life question to a remote time and place in the universe.

True that, but it could also more than double the time available for OOL, and provide more options for chemical environments and energy sources.

I only looked at the abstract, but it seems that he assumes life will form on mostly hydrogen planets. This life will survive the process of the hydrogen being stripped away over long ages. The left over rocky planets will then have sufficient probability of collision with solar system debris during transits to exchange biological material.

It seems to be a tottering pile of hypotheses.

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: May 15 2012,13:06   

Interesting open source paper-

The evolutionary history of protein fold families and proteomes confirms that the archaeal ancestor is more ancient than the ancestors of other superkingdoms

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-21....13

The justification for a new approach: "... the use of molecular sequence information for deep phylogenetic analyses is limited by mutational saturation, differential evolutionary rates, lack of sequence site independence, and other biological and technical constraints. In contrast, protein structures are evolutionary modules that are highly conserved and diverse enough to enable deep historical exploration."

Results:
"Here we build phylogenies that describe the evolution of proteins and proteomes. ... These trees defined timelines of domain appearance, with time spanning from the origin of proteins to the present. Timelines are divided into five different evolutionary phases according to patterns of sharing of FFs among superkingdoms: (1) a primordial protein world, (2) reductive evolution and the rise of Archaea, (3) the rise of Bacteria from the common ancestor of Bacteria and Eukarya and early development of the three superkingdoms, (4) the rise of Eukarya and widespread organismal diversification, and (5) eukaryal diversification."

Conclusions
...primordial metabolic domains evolved earlier than informational domains involved in translation and transcription, supporting the metabolism-first hypothesis rather than the RNA world scenario.

.. phylogenomic trees of proteomes reconstructed from FFs ... show that trees reconstructed from ancient domain structures were consistently rooted in archaeal lineages, supporting the proposal that the archaeal ancestor is more ancient than the ancestors of other superkingdoms."

Thoughts?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 15 2012,13:10   

Are eukaryotes equally distant from all types of bacteria, or are they more closely related to some subset of still living bacteria?

  
REC



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(Permalink) Posted: May 15 2012,15:18   

I guess the simple reply is that if Eukarya and Bacteria share a common ancestor, the Eukaryotes and Bacteria that have diverged least from their respective common ancestors would be the closest.

In this paper, the individual points aren't labeled, so I don't know what those should be.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2012,12:27   

Solar eclipse Sunday afternoon!

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2012,04:05   

It's Bigfoot, run for your lives!

Hmm...

toitles

There's gold in them thar hills:

It's gold, gold I tell ya!

Bring on the lumpers and splitters:

doggone it

A whale of a story:

Thar she blows!



Edited to add more links.

Edited by The whole truth on May 24 2012,01:40

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,00:55   

Ran across this article on denialism while following up on other research.

A couple of years old, but still on target today.

BTW, ran into Louis on the elevator today. He was on his way up to have coffee with Arden's mum. I told him we miss him here at AtBC, but he said we're all just sheep (not the Welsh kind) and couldn't be bothered to 'bother' us as it were.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,08:31   

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ June 04 2012,22:55)
Ran across this article on denialism while following up on other research.

A couple of years old, but still on target today.

BTW, ran into Louis on the elevator today. He was on his way up to have coffee with Arden's mum. I told him we miss him here at AtBC, but he said we're all just sheep (not the Welsh kind) and couldn't be bothered to 'bother' us as it were.

We sheep prefer to have it described as "being interfered with".

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