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|Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 24 2012,23:39)|
|Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 24 2012,23:11)|
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|Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 24 2012,17:42)|
Yeah... it is important to know your history.
|HOW INTELLIGENT DESIGN ADVOCATES TURN THE SORDID LESSONS FROM SOVIET AND NAZI HISTORY UPSIDE DOWN|
By Wesley R. Elsberry and Mark Perakh
Amazing! They even wrote a paper for countering what is stated in a Wikipedia article!!
My co-author, Mark Perakh, was a citizen of the USSR, fought Nazis in WWII, and spent time in a Soviet gulag for civil disobedience.
I think he has some insight into the Soviet and Nazi systems, and what suppression was about.
I don't see any variance between our account and Wikipedia. So let's see your documentation of what, precisely, in our article "counters" something in the Wikipedia article. If none is forthcoming, I wouldn't be at all surprised.
It is not uncommon for otherwise good people to get caught up in suppression of science. In fact, that's why I provided the link. It's something US history teachers should truthfully cover, as well as the other side of the WW2 conflict in Germany that did the same thing but with slogans like "Gott mit uns" (meaning God with us). Both sides trashed science for their ideology. Same is happening now, in this forum. The most vocal here use Stalinist tactics against the Discovery Institute's tactics that introduced a (once) religious theory very much like what was taught in German schools where God created life in present form and other races were messed up by evolution thus they felt obliged to exterminate all others (I also read the Nazi science teachers guide they had to follow).
Only thing that will save us from the WW3 you are all working hard towards, is real-science.
That's right, "Same is happening now, in this forum. The most vocal here use Stalinist tactics" - this open forum, where you can post without moderation as compatred to "the Discovery Institute's " which always has comments closed. Again, you find yourself at odds with reality.
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