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Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 07 2011,21:55   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 07 2011,19:15)
Retrospective astonishment:

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Finally, Behe erroneously equates “evolving non-deterministically” with “impossible to evolve.”  He supposes that if each of a set of specific evolutionary outcomes has a low probability, then none will evolve.  This is like saying that, because the probability was vanishingly small that the 1996 Yankees would finish 92-70 with 871 runs scored and 787 allowed and then win the World Series in six games over Atlanta, the fact that all this occurred means it must have been willed by God.


http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom.......hornton

Now if they had said the Yankees season was willed by Satan, I'm a willing believer!  :)

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 07 2011,22:09   

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the fact that all this occurred means it must have been willed by God.

AMEN!!111!!!eleven!!!!

(Or something like that.)

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,18:37   

"A Weirdly Naked Appeal to Racism from the National Center for Science Education?
10.24.2011 4:35PM

David Klinghoffer is one of the most vile shit-for-brains in the entire Discotute stable of whores.

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L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

   
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2011,11:12   

BREAKING NEWS (HOMOS!)  !!!!

This just in from Evo Nooze and Snooze:

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The online encyclopedia triumphantly points to resistance to myxoma virus among Australian rabbis as one piece of evidence, among others, for common descent.



Oy, vey!  Who knew??

  
paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2011,21:22   

from the "We Get Love from Leading Darwinist Group Blog" post:  
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This [Jack Scanlan's Panda's Thumb post] has put us in such a good mood we're almost tempted to open the great Black Gate that allows comments so all the other Darwinists can write in and tell us how much they love us.

Fuckin' cowards!

frikkin' clarification frakin' mine

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
The geological maps that realist use to make money are all surface maps. -forastero

  
Seversky



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2011,07:49   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Oct. 24 2011,18:37)
"A Weirdly Naked Appeal to Racism from the National Center for Science Education?
10.24.2011 4:35PM

David Klinghoffer is one of the most vile shit-for-brains in the entire Discotute stable of whores.

That goes without saying although, since they played the racism card, it did lead me to wonder how many members of the DI are not white.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2011,18:54   

We are now a "Not So Privleged Planet"...

But don't hold your breath waiting to gonzalez to recant his truly bad book.  He is an IDist after all.

New Habitable Planet Found

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2011,20:14   

David Klinghoffer:
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...Rod reminded me of a saying from the Talmud. Attributed to Rabbi Yochanan, it makes an observation about the Hebrew Bible: "Wherever you find mention of the greatness of the Holy One, Blessed Be He, there you will also find mention of his humility."

Rod insisted on this point about God's humility, a kind of shyness or modesty, almost, that seems to be a characteristic of his personality.


It makes you wonder if Rod or David or Rabbi Yochanan have ever actually read the Hebrew Bible.  The words 'shyness' and 'modesty' don't exactly spring to mind when you read the following:
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Job 38

1 Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:
2 “Who is this that obscures my plans
  with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
  I will question you,
  and you shall answer me.

4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
  Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
  Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
  or who laid its cornerstone—
7 while the morning stars sang together
  and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

8 “Who shut up the sea behind doors
  when it burst forth from the womb,
9 when I made the clouds its garment
  and wrapped it in thick darkness,
10 when I fixed limits for it
  and set its doors and bars in place,
11 when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther;
  here is where your proud waves halt’?

12 “Have you ever given orders to the morning,
  or shown the dawn its place,
13 that it might take the earth by the edges
  and shake the wicked out of it?
14 The earth takes shape like clay under a seal;
  its features stand out like those of a garment.
15 The wicked are denied their light,
  and their upraised arm is broken.

16 “Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
  or walked in the recesses of the deep?
17 Have the gates of death been shown to you?
  Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?
18 Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?
  Tell me, if you know all this.

19 “What is the way to the abode of light?
  And where does darkness reside?
20 Can you take them to their places?
  Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
  You have lived so many years!

22 “Have you entered the storehouses of the snow
  or seen the storehouses of the hail,
23 which I reserve for times of trouble,
  for days of war and battle?
24 What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed,
  or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth?
25 Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain,
  and a path for the thunderstorm,
26 to water a land where no one lives,
  an uninhabited desert,
27 to satisfy a desolate wasteland
  and make it sprout with grass?
28 Does the rain have a father?
  Who fathers the drops of dew?
29 From whose womb comes the ice?
  Who gives birth to the frost from the heavens
30 when the waters become hard as stone,
  when the surface of the deep is frozen?

31 “Can you bind the chains[b] of the Pleiades?
  Can you loosen Orion’s belt?
32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[c]
  or lead out the Bear[d] with its cubs?
33 Do you know the laws of the heavens?
  Can you set up God’s[e] dominion over the earth?

34 “Can you raise your voice to the clouds
  and cover yourself with a flood of water?
35 Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?
  Do they report to you, ‘Here we are’?
36 Who gives the ibis wisdom[f]
  or gives the rooster understanding?[g]
37 Who has the wisdom to count the clouds?
  Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens
38 when the dust becomes hard
  and the clods of earth stick together?

39 “Do you hunt the prey for the lioness
  and satisfy the hunger of the lions
40 when they crouch in their dens
  or lie in wait in a thicket?
41 Who provides food for the raven
  when its young cry out to God
  and wander about for lack of food?

On and on without a single humble word until the end of chapter 41, when the soliloquy mercifully ceases.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2011,20:37   

Klinghoffer goes on to explain that God's shyness is the reason that the evidence for intelligent design is so, shall we say, understated:
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...God too has characteristics that you might not expect. Among them is the quality, surprising to find in the transcendent source of all existence, of being rather shy...

This may explain a lot of things. For example, why so much of the Bible gives a superficial impression of simplicity, even primitiveness or dry legalism. Impatient readers assume that's all there is to it, never realizing what lies beneath the surface but that can only be uncovered by subtle probing of hints and nuances, hidden and delicate pointers that give way suddenly, unexpectedly on limitless vistas of wisdom from another world.

It may explain too why the historical redemption that Jews and Christians wait for is so long in coming. A situation where all of mankind turns its eyes to you, fully revealed, is not a prospect that a shy deity would necessarily want to see rushed to fruition.

It may, finally, explain why the evidence of nature's design is elusive to lots of people. Often we wonder why Darwinists can never seem to get it. They champ and cry and try to shout us down with taunts that we are "creationists." They can never tire of boisterously waving Judge Jones in our face.

The signature in the cell, in the genetic code, in protein synthesis, in what Behe calls irreducibly complex features of biology, in the Cambrian explosion and the rest of the fossil record, in cosmology, in individual types of creatures -- from butterfly metamorphosis to the history of whale evolution -- whatever piece of the argument for intelligent design that you want to think of, it is all very lightly imprinted. The "signature" is in a sense misnamed because you can't make out the name of the signer. It takes patience and study to see any of this...

By no means does nature hit you over the head and shout "I am designed! There is a designer! And the designer's name is the LORD!"


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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2011,21:01   

Quote (keiths @ Dec. 06 2011,20:37)
Klinghoffer goes on to explain that God's shyness is the reason that the evidence for intelligent design is so, shall we say, understated:
 
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...God too has characteristics that you might not expect. Among them is the quality, surprising to find in the transcendent source of all existence, of being rather shy...

This may explain a lot of things. For example, why so much of the Bible gives a superficial impression of simplicity, even primitiveness or dry legalism. Impatient readers assume that's all there is to it, never realizing what lies beneath the surface but that can only be uncovered by subtle probing of hints and nuances, hidden and delicate pointers that give way suddenly, unexpectedly on limitless vistas of wisdom from another world.

It may explain too why the historical redemption that Jews and Christians wait for is so long in coming. A situation where all of mankind turns its eyes to you, fully revealed, is not a prospect that a shy deity would necessarily want to see rushed to fruition.

It may, finally, explain why the evidence of nature's design is elusive to lots of people. Often we wonder why Darwinists can never seem to get it. They champ and cry and try to shout us down with taunts that we are "creationists." They can never tire of boisterously waving Judge Jones in our face.

The signature in the cell, in the genetic code, in protein synthesis, in what Behe calls irreducibly complex features of biology, in the Cambrian explosion and the rest of the fossil record, in cosmology, in individual types of creatures -- from butterfly metamorphosis to the history of whale evolution -- whatever piece of the argument for intelligent design that you want to think of, it is all very lightly imprinted. The "signature" is in a sense misnamed because you can't make out the name of the signer. It takes patience and study to see any of this...

By no means does nature hit you over the head and shout "I am designed! There is a designer! And the designer's name is the LORD!"

No, oddly enough it hits you over the head and says life evolved without intelligent direction.

But if you properly "prepare" your mind to "accept" design, you can always close your eyes and mind to the evidence of evolution, and say that it was all designed.

Exactly why the Lord of Truth would make minds that "work" like that isn't clear, however God's shyness no doubt explains that, too.

Glen Davidson

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2011,21:53   

Klinghanger is a fucking idiot.  Why would anybody care what he writes?

Luskin is like a Nobel Prize winner next to Klinkdropper.

  
Seversky



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2011,00:08   

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...God too has characteristics that you might not expect. Among them is the quality, surprising to find in the transcendent source of all existence, of being rather shy...


Shy?

We're talking about the Great White Sky-Dude who tossed Adam and Eve out of Eden for disobeying orders, who turned people into pillars of salt for looking at him the wrong way, who wiped out whole cities and races because they wouldn't grovel before him and who finally drowned out almost all life on Earth in an amazing fit of pique.

"Shy" is not the first word that comes to mind to describe him.

 
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By no means does nature hit you over the head and shout "I am designed! There is a designer! And the designer's name is the LORD!"


Really?  Are you serious?  The whole case for design in Nature from Paley onwards has been that it's so blatantly obvious that only a fool could deny that it screams out for explanation.

Someone needs to have a quiet word with Corporal Klinghoffer about staying on-message.

 
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They can never tire of boisterously waving Judge Jones in our face.


That's because before the trial we heard a lot of bluster along the lines of

 
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I therefore await the day when the hearings are not voluntary but involve subpoenas that compel evolutionists to be deposed and interrogated at length on their views.

[...]

What I propose, then, is a strategy for interrogating the Darwinists to, as it were, squeeze the truth out of them.


But all we actually heard at Dover then is what we've heard from the DI ever since - the sound of pips squeaking.

  
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2011,12:47   

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...God too has characteristics that you might not expect. Among them is the quality, surprising to find in the transcendent source of all existence, of being rather shy...

Why should this quality (assuming your god exists and actually does have it) be surprising? Why would any characteristic in a god be surprising?
 
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This may explain a lot of things. For example, why so much of the Bible gives a superficial impression of simplicity, even primitiveness or dry legalism.

Why, because all shy people are primitive and superficial? Are they all passive females too? Any other erroneous generalizations you'd like to imply?
 
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Impatient readers assume that's all there is to it, never realizing what lies beneath the surface but that can only be uncovered by subtle probing of hints and nuances, hidden and delicate pointers that give way suddenly, unexpectedly on limitless vistas of wisdom from another world.

You mean like this?

 
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It may explain too why the historical redemption that Jews and Christians wait for is so long in coming. A situation where all of mankind turns its eyes to you, fully revealed, is not a prospect that a shy deity would necessarily want to see rushed to fruition.

Wait...what? I thought Christians had received their redemption. Isn't that the whole point of Christianity vs Judaism?
 
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It may, finally, explain why the evidence of nature's design is elusive to lots of people.

Why, because shy people design things that don't look designed? Or is it that shy people's designs are more subtle - and thus creative - which then begs the question of what you implied earlier about shy people being primitive and superficial. Can you make up your mind?
 
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Often we wonder why Darwinists can never seem to get it.

Clearly because we don't carry the baggage of your presupposed generalizations about shy and in-your-face people, to say nothing of lacking any expectations about the characteristics that gods and nature must have.
 
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They champ and cry and try to shout us down with taunts that we are "creationists." They can never tire of boisterously waving Judge Jones in our face.

Oh please...blame that fiasco on yourselves. It's not our fault you all imploded and looked inane. Further it isn't our fault that none of your representatives brought any actual evidence for this "obvious" design you keep yammering about. We keeping waving Judge Jones in your face to remind you of those facts.
 
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The signature in the cell, in the genetic code, in protein synthesis, in what Behe calls irreducibly complex features of biology, in the Cambrian explosion and the rest of the fossil record, in cosmology, in individual types of creatures -- from butterfly metamorphosis to the history of whale evolution -- whatever piece of the argument for intelligent design that you want to think of, it is all very lightly imprinted. The "signature" is in a sense misnamed because you can't make out the name of the signer. It takes patience and study to see any of this...

Uh huh...see Kitzmiller vs Dover (see what I did there). You can make this claim all you want, but when push comes to shove, you guys have no way to substantiate the claim.
 
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By no means does nature hit you over the head and shout "I am designed! There is a designer! And the designer's name is the LORD!"

There in lies your problem then, huh?

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we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

  
sledgehammer



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 08 2011,21:37   

Quiz time:
Who is being quoted here, and who is the speaker referring to?

 
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... That's what often happens when people who are adamantly opposed to an idea publicize their own definitions of its key terms—the terms are manipulated to wage a PR battle.

...If they want to show their theory can account for it (good luck!), then they'll have to do so by relevant experiments and detailed model building—not by wordplay and sleight-of-hand.

...This is clearly not a fellow who wants to look into the topic too closely.


Let's see... Dawkins talking about Dembski?  PZ, about Meyer?  Miller on Behe?
Those would be  wrong.  But the last one is close.

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The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time. The terror of their tyranny is alleviated by their lack of consistency. -A. Einstein  (H/T, JAD)
If evolution is true, you could not know that it's true because your brain is nothing but chemicals. ?Think about that. -K. Hovind

  
paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2011,03:33   

Ironic AnalogyFAIL:
"Darwinian Biology Is to Spelling as Intelligent Design Is to the Art of Writing"

If i remember my analogy formulation right, it should have read:
Darwinian Biology Is to Intelligent Design as Spelling Is to the Art of Writing

for as we all know
 
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In one case you're looking at the micromechanics of how you put letters together to make words but in the other you are looking at higher-level principles that allow good writing to take place, the principles you have to master in order to write well.

If the post title is anything to go by, good writing is not taking place.
It so happens that the post stems from an ID: The Future podcast titled "Key Figures in Intelligent Design Measure the Impact of Discovery Institute", which could be analogized as "a man measures the size of his own dick."

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
The geological maps that realist use to make money are all surface maps. -forastero

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2011,19:51   

Casey whistles past the graveyard:
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You won't know it from reading the New York Times, an NCSE-staffer blog, or Judge Jones's manifesto, but ID has already gained the kind of scientific legitimacy we'd expect from a young (and vastly underfunded) scientific field. With scientific productivity leading the way, ID's future is looking bright.

You wouldn't know it from reading the Wedge Document, either. Here are the DI's 5-year scientific goals for the period 1999-2003:
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Scientific achievements:

An active design movement in Israel, the UK and other influential countries outside the US

Ten CRSC Fellows teaching at major universities

Two universities where design theory has become the dominant view

Design becomes a key concept in the social sciences

Legal reform movements base legislative proposals on design theory

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2011,22:52   

2011....
 
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Anyway, some of us who write for ENV got a laugh this past Wednesday morning when we arrived at the office and someone pointed out that it was the sixth anniversary of the Dover ruling....

2009....
 
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To say the least, we at the IDEA Center got a good laugh reading these IDEA Center death certificates fabricated by these highly imaginative internet Darwinists.

So much laughter, so little awareness.

  
didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2011,23:02   

Quote (Woodbine @ Dec. 23 2011,20:52)
2011....
   
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Anyway, some of us who write for ENV got a laugh this past Wednesday morning when we arrived at the office and someone pointed out that it was the sixth anniversary of the Dover ruling....

I call bullshit on that one.  As obsessed with Dover as they are and they somehow didn't notice the anniversary?  Yeah. Right.

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I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron
Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2011,23:23   

I left the following comment at EN&V:
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The current impact of ID becomes obvious at Google trends and Google insight


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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2011,00:18   

EN&V's comment policy may prevent my comment from seeing the light of the public:
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Comment Policy

All comments are held for moderation. The debate over evolution and intelligent design attracts all kinds, including those who detract from the conversation by their obnoxious behavior. In order to maintain a higher level of discourse, we will not publish comments that use foul language, ad hominem attacks, threats, or are otherwise uncivil.
emphasis mine

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2011,12:09   

Quote (sparc @ Dec. 24 2011,00:18)
EN&V's comment policy may prevent my comment from seeing the light of the public:
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Comment Policy

All comments are held for moderation. The debate over evolution and intelligent design attracts all kinds, including those who detract from the conversation by their obnoxious behavior. In order to maintain a higher level of discourse, we will not publish comments that use foul language, ad hominem attacks, threats, or are otherwise uncivil.
emphasis mine

You're right - It will never see the light of day.

Everyone knows that facts have a well-known scientific bias.*


* adapted from A Great American Stephen Colbert

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2011,23:53   

Quote (keiths @ Dec. 23 2011,19:51)
Casey whistles past the graveyard:
 
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You won't know it from reading the New York Times, an NCSE-staffer blog, or Judge Jones's manifesto, but ID has already gained the kind of scientific legitimacy we'd expect from a young (and vastly underfunded) scientific field. With scientific productivity leading the way, ID's future is looking bright.

You wouldn't know it from reading the Wedge Document, either. Here are the DI's 5-year scientific goals for the period 1999-2003:
 
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Scientific achievements:

An active design movement in Israel, the UK and other influential countries outside the US

Ten CRSC Fellows teaching at major universities

Two universities where design theory has become the dominant view

Design becomes a key concept in the social sciences

Legal reform movements base legislative proposals on design theory

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

EN&V's main page still asks you to  
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Be the first to comment
on "How bright is the future of Intelligernt Design?" although Casey already moved to "Post-Dover Education Victories for Intelligent Design" in which he is re-writing history.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2011,17:35   

"Be the first to comment" should read:

Be the first to suck up.

Be the first to praise jeebus.

Be the first to kiss Luskin's furry butt.

Be the first to use the use the word 'evotard.'

Be the first to Meyer*.

Be the first to fart.



*Meyer - write a sentence with 500 irrelevant references.

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2011,19:46   

"It's time for some folks to get over Dover," said Casey, without a trace of irony.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2011,20:02   

Here are the articles by year referencing or mentioning Kitzmiller on the Disco Tute Evo Whine and Cheese website:

2011  18
2010  16
2009  22
2008  26
2007  45

In contrast, Pharyngula mentioned Kitzmiller once this year, and the PT three times.

Project much, Gerbil?

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2012,22:48   

Can anybody identify what is displayed on the slide left of Behe? And what could the writing on the white board relate to?


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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2012,01:39   

The chances of bumblebees happening by accident, apparently.

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"But it's disturbing to think someone actually thinks creationism -- having put it's hand on the hot stove every day for the last 400 years -- will get a different result tomorrow." -- midwifetoad

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2012,04:59   

It's a slide related to the film Transformers.

Behe sure is a pathetic shit. Transformers indeed.


http://tinyurl.com/6rqrqv9....6rqrqv9

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2012,00:09   

Thanks for the information. I can't help the feeling that I am getting old.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2012,23:16   

It is quite long, not new but does anybody understand the comments from the audience during Robert Marks' talk on information, genetic algortims, Avida and weasel?

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
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