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Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,00:55   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 29 2010,18:30)

What if we freeze the aardvark?

That made me LOL as well...and brings another question to mind:

If we bake an aardvark into a cake and it is not listed with the other ingredients, does the cake have more or less CSI?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,02:35   

Quote (sledgehammer @ Mar. 29 2010,23:48)
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 29 2010,18:30)

What if we freeze the aardvark?

Hey! At the aardvark triple point, we have, simultaneously, liquid aardvark, solid aardvark, and a snootful of aardvark gas.
Barkeep - gimme a pint of that there aardvark!

I'll pass on the "snootful of aardvark gas" - if it's anything like dog gas (esp when he is behind me), its got to be quite rank.

Although, Liquid Aardvark may be the new Metal Gear character, but mums the word....

(actually, wet aardvark is pretty bad too- just ask Cerebus)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,05:04   

Joe,
What size shoe do you take?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,08:49   

Quote (sledgehammer @ Mar. 29 2010,23:48)
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 29 2010,18:30)

What if we freeze the aardvark?

Hey! At the aardvark triple point, we have, simultaneously, liquid aardvark, solid aardvark, and a snootful of aardvark gas.
Barkeep - gimme a pint of that there aardvark!

"I don't care who you are, dat dere is funny"**

** to quote the great philospher.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,08:55   

Aardvark Mitochondrial RNA sequenced

Now, this isn't the whole aardvark genome, but (from what I read) the aardvark has a unique place in our world.  It's the only living species of the order Tubulidentata.  So the authors sequenced the mitochondrial RNA to help scientists figure out what are the nearest relatives to the aardvark.

Tell you what.  I will publicly apologize to you and the ID movement and write up a post for rational-skeptic.org if you 'Joe' can use CSI to determine what the nearest relative to the aardvark is.  Now, no fair cheating and reading the paper (above) for the answer.  Since I've already given you the science answer, I'll need a very detailed treatment from you (or Dembski or Meyer or Behe) as to what was measured and calculated for each species you compare the aardvark to and why the measurements and calcuation result in the aardvark's position as you describe it.

Go.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,16:05   

JoeG approved my two-part response to his blog post on measuring information/ specified complexity. Having never before replied on an IDist-controlled forum, I wondered whether JoeG might unilaterally edit my words; I am happy to say that he did not do that. Yay JoeG!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,19:24   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 30 2010,05:04)
Joe,
What size shoe do you take?

Hey! No trick questions!...Let's keep this above board.

(Joe, Sticking up for bro)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2010,01:17   

Ahem, that will be quite enough about aardvarks.



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2010,10:28   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 30 2010,05:04)
Joe,
What size shoe do you take?

Between 1 and 3 pounds?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2010,10:41   

No, no, that would have to be in foot-pounds, not just pounds!  :p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2010,11:14   

C'mon, this can't be real.

Measuring the information of an aardvark by analyzing the characters in the dictionary definition of aardvark?

He's just having some fun with you folks. Granted that he is dedicated, but that can be a symptom of extreme boredom as well as extreme zealotry.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2010,11:55   

Quote (FreeMason @ Mar. 31 2010,16:14)
C'mon, this can't be real.

Measuring the information of an aardvark by analyzing the characters in the dictionary definition of aardvark?

He's just having some fun with you folks. Granted that he is dedicated, but that can be a symptom of extreme boredom as well as extreme zealotry.

Poe's Law. An eternal warning to us all.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2010,12:00   

Poe's law? Nevermore!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2010,18:20   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2010,11:25)
You don't calculate CSI you measure it.

How? What do you use as a meter and what units are they/is it measured in?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2010,20:30   

Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Mar. 31 2010,18:20)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2010,11:25)
You don't calculate CSI you measure it.

How? What do you use as a meter and what units are they/is it measured in?

Iambic pentameter-  measured in Shakespeares.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2010,06:33   

Joe @ TT:
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IOW if scales, fins and gills are part of what defines fish, and fish are allegedly our ancestors, we should have them.

Link.

ROFL.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2010,06:52   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2010,07:33)
Joe @ TT:
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IOW if scales, fins and gills are part of what defines fish, and fish are allegedly our ancestors, we should have them.

Link.

ROFL.

I want my prehensile tail, dammit!   :angry:

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2010,07:32   

Quote (Wolfhound @ April 01 2010,06:52)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2010,07:33)
Joe @ TT:
 
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IOW if scales, fins and gills are part of what defines fish, and fish are allegedly our ancestors, we should have them.

Link.

ROFL.

I want my prehensile tail, dammit! † :angry:

I think a lot of the posters on this board would like a little tail......

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2010,11:56   

Quote (EyeNoU @ April 01 2010,07:32)
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 01 2010,06:52)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2010,07:33)
Joe @ TT:
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IOW if scales, fins and gills are part of what defines fish, and fish are allegedly our ancestors, we should have them.

Link.

ROFL.

I want my prehensile tail, dammit! † :angry:

I think a lot of the posters on this board would like a little tail......

Perhaps Joe could give some tips? I suspect "very little" applies to him in more then one respect.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2010,12:43   

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Perhaps Joe could give some tips?

If he were a bit more circumspect.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2010,14:11   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2010,06:33)

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Joe @ TT:
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IOW if scales, fins and gills are part of what defines fish, and fish are allegedly our ancestors, we should have them.

Link.

ROFL.


I just can't read more than a few lines from Joe without going into a coma. He's got to be a Poe...has to be. You just can't be this type of ignorant for real.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2010,19:22   

I've been reading the AFdave thread.  If it ends with him announcing himself as a Poe, I will scream, then laugh in relief.  

If joe does so, then he's the worst Poe ever.  I'm still waiting for an answer to my challenge.  I'm guessing him and Dembski are discussing ways to confuse me.  It shouldn't be too hard... all they have to do is talk for a while.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2010,19:38   

Quote (Wolfhound @ April 01 2010,06:52)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2010,07:33)
Joe @ TT:
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IOW if scales, fins and gills are part of what defines fish, and fish are allegedly our ancestors, we should have them.

Link.

ROFL.

I want my prehensile tail, dammit! † :angry:

Well, it's not a tail...but it is prehensile! †It's "Mr Elephant"... and it's all thanks to one of those late-night infomercials...

and ID.
;)

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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2010,02:40   

Quote (Badger3k @ April 01 2010,20:38)
Quote (Wolfhound @ April 01 2010,06:52)
 
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2010,07:33)
Joe @ TT:
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IOW if scales, fins and gills are part of what defines fish, and fish are allegedly our ancestors, we should have them.

Link.

ROFL.

I want my prehensile tail, dammit! † :angry:

Well, it's not a tail...but it is prehensile! †It's "Mr Elephant"... and it's all thanks to one of those late-night infomercials...

and ID.
;)

Can it cut through a tin can and still slice a tomato?  If I order now, do I get a second Mr Elephant (makes a great gift!) and the Mini Elephant, which I can conveniently carry in my purse for those moments that I really need Mr Elephant but forgot it at home?

Damn, I hope those operators are standing by...

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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2010,18:14   

Quote (Badger3k @ Mar. 30 2010,00:35)
I'll pass on the "snootful of aardvark gas" - if it's anything like dog gas (esp when he is behind me), its got to be quite rank.

I was on the water today, and we had two minke whales cruising around the boat for most of the morning. They were often in touching distance. One did a nice roll and dive, and moments later everyone on deck was "impressed" with the power of whale farts. And these were small whales!

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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2010,08:04   

Quote (FreeMason @ Mar. 31 2010,11:14)
C'mon, this can't be real.

Measuring the information of an aardvark by analyzing the characters in the dictionary definition of aardvark?

He's just having some fun with you folks. Granted that he is dedicated, but that can be a symptom of extreme boredom as well as extreme zealotry.

That is false.

Only a complete imbecile would think I was measuring the information of an aardvark by analyzing the characters in the definition.

Definitions are examples of specified information

1-The definition I provided is an example of specified information.

2-I then measured the information contained in that definition.

3- It was an EXAMPLE of how to measure SI to see if CSI is present.

Yes or no- do you understand that?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2010,08:50   

Quote (Joe G @ April 03 2010,08:04)
Quote (FreeMason @ Mar. 31 2010,11:14)
C'mon, this can't be real.

Measuring the information of an aardvark by analyzing the characters in the dictionary definition of aardvark?

He's just having some fun with you folks. Granted that he is dedicated, but that can be a symptom of extreme boredom as well as extreme zealotry.

That is false.

Only a complete imbecile would think I was measuring the information of an aardvark by analyzing the characters in the definition.

Definitions are examples of specified information

1-The definition I provided is an example of specified information.

2-I then measured the information contained in that definition.

3- It was an EXAMPLE of how to measure SI to see if CSI is present.

Yes or no- do you understand that?

I understand but not completely. †I've developed a secret written language (SWL). In my SWL, the definition of "aardvark" is written like this:

gkjassdhjkjyenb

Note that the bold type face is part of the SWL definition. If "gkjassdhjkjyenb" is not bolded, it means "platypus."

How much information is contained in my SWL definition? Does the "aardvark" definition contain more information than the "platypus" definition? Does either definition indicate the presence of CSI?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2010,08:52   

So, how bout that challenge Joe?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2010,09:07   

Hey Joe! I'm sure you're eager to respond to this:

There are many plaster cast copies of Michelangelo's David in existence. They weigh less than the six-ton marble original; solid marble weighs 160 lbs per cubic foot, while plaster weighs 53 lbs per cubic foot. Per your definition of size, although they are of identical physical dimensions and displace identical volumes of identical shape, plaster-cast David and the original David are NOT the same size.

So, if a precise plaster cast copy of David is not, by your definition, the same size as the original David, how much taller would plaster cast David have to be than actual David to be the same size as actual David?

Show your work.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2010,12:58   

The latest revelation from Joe ID guy:
 
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Mendel couldn't have proposed a theory of genetic inheritanec if he didn't even use the word genetics.

Right. †And Lemaitre could not have proposed the Big Bang theory if he didn't even use the words big bang.

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