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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2011,16:25   

Edit: Enigmatic and confusing text that I haven't been able to make sense of is no longer here.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2012,20:05   

Hey, our pal Kevin 11, not to be confused with 7-Eleven which is actually useful, has received an honor.

Drum roll, please!

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Bottom line description:  Typical hack.

I'm sure we can agree with that.

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,00:29   

Speaking of "Expelled", have you all seen this?

catholic cult hypocrite

Yeah, like the catholic pedophiles have any room to preach morals to anyone.



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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,14:17   

Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 01 2012,00:29)
Speaking of "Expelled", have you all seen this?

catholic cult hypocrite

Yeah, like the catholic pedophiles have any room to preach morals to anyone.

It boggles my mind that some clown priest would have the audacity to single out some person as "sinner" and refuse him or her communion. What part of this is hard to understand:

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37And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,

38And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.

39Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.

40And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.

41There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.

42And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?

43Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.


Or this:

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3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.


Such Church "morals" are worthless. Jesus was pretty clear:

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Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it. Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


A priest of all people should know better. Those who do not should be removed from their position.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,21:48   

Okay mateys, let's get this thread back to the topic of "Expelled," shall we?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,22:52   

RationalWiki: Expelled

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Sealawr



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2013,13:46   

Kevin Miller has been "Expelled."


http://www.patheos.com/blogs....ing-job

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2013,17:08   

Quote (Sealawr @ Sep. 02 2013,11:46)
Kevin Miller has been "Expelled."


http://www.patheos.com/blogs......ing-job

Something about reaping and sowing vaguely comes to mind.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2013,20:48   

Blogged on Kevie

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2013,21:22   

Quote (Sealawr @ Sep. 02 2013,13:46)
Kevin Miller has been "Expelled."


http://www.patheos.com/blogs......ing-job

It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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I probably shouldnt be surprised by this decision, but I am surprisedand terribly disappointed. Not only that I wont be able to teach, but also by the way things were handled. In my view, the one place where a diversity of views should not only be tolerated but encouraged is at a university. I realize that, as a faith-based institution, Trinity has to establish some sort of boundaries in order to maintain a consistent identity, donor base, etc. But as I endeavored to demonstrate in Hellbound?, the Church has always maintained (and at times, even welcomed) a wide diversity of views on hell and all sorts of other theological issues. So why this college would slam the door in my face on what is essentially a peripheral issueespecially when Im teaching filmmaking, not theologyis beyond me.


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Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2013,22:01   

I'm positive the DI will be outraged at this gross violation of academic freedom.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2013,22:59   

And Kevie was going to teach the students how to leave theistic evolutionists out of movies in a flagrantly dishonest attempt to pretend that theists are persecuted, rather than the bullshitters. Then he was expelled by theists for, ahem, not being the right sort of theist, just like those heretics, the TEs.

Petards tend to uplift those who wield them.

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Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2013,23:07   

I left a comment on Miller's blog
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Expelled for failing to adhere to a dogmatic orthodoxy? Interesting. Do you think there might be a movie in that, Kevin?

It is being held in moderation. We shall see if Miller chooses to let it out of moderation, and if he does that, whether/how he will choose to respond to it.

  
socle



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 02 2013,23:58   

Quote (Cubist @ Sep. 02 2013,23:07)
I left a comment on Miller's blog
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Expelled for failing to adhere to a dogmatic orthodoxy? Interesting. Do you think there might be a movie in that, Kevin?

It is being held in moderation. We shall see if Miller chooses to let it out of moderation, and if he does that, whether/how he will choose to respond to it.


  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2013,05:25   

Quote (Sealawr @ Sep. 02 2013,13:46)
Kevin Miller has been "Expelled."


http://www.patheos.com/blogs......ing-job

I hope he will give the same advice to those future Sternbergs, Dembskis, Coppedges, Gonzalezes and Freshwaters out there:
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And while the temptation to castigate and scapegoat the evil institution is ever-present, I dont think such feelings are warranted in this case. And theyre never a constructive way to respond in the long run anyway.
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So Im going to chalk this one up to experience and move on. No hard feelings.


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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2013,12:13   

Quote (olegt @ Sep. 02 2013,22:22)
 
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But as I endeavored to demonstrate in Hellbound?, the Church has always maintained (and at times, even welcomed) a wide diversity of views on hell and all sorts of other theological issues.

...as if we needed more evidence that he's completely delusional...

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2013,12:26   

Even in theology, a theory that explains everything explains nothing.

As long as your ideology is evidence free, it might as well be specific.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2013,13:19   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 03 2013,11:26)
Even in theology, a theory that explains everything explains nothing.

As long as your ideology is evidence free, it might as well be specific.

But if it's too specific, you get schisms! :O

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2013,15:52   

Oh noes! I blagged again!

The "Statement of Faith" has even more problems than Kevie's objection to sadistic eternal torture so warmly embraced by Christofascists .

Edited by Dr.GH on Sep. 03 2013,14:07

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Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 03 2013,17:29   

Interesting. My comment did show on Kev's blograther, my pair of comments. Silly me, thinking that when a comment doesn't show up immediately, it's because it vanished into the bit-bucket, as opposed to, say, it was waiting in the moderation queue Anyway, the spirit moved me to post a follow-up:
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I apologize for leaving two substantially-identical comments. In my defense, all I can say is that the vast bulk of my blog-commenting experience is restricted to blogs that are largely unmoderated. If you wish to delete one of the two near-duplicates, and this comment as well, I'm okay with that, Kevin.

This comment, like my first pair, is currently in moderation, but given that the first pair did appear, we may presumably expect that it will not be trapped there forever.

Edited to add: And now it looks like this comment went thru, too.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2013,01:06   

Nice one, socle.

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Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2013,06:23   

Anyone who would like to own a legit copy ofExpelled without sending any cash to the lying weasels who made it, would be well advised to check eBay now. As I write this post, the cheapest used copy on eBay has a "Buy it now" price of $1.50, a seller-specified minimum bid of $0.10, and exactly 0 (zero) bids

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2013,07:39   

Quote (Cubist @ Oct. 25 2013,06:23)
Anyone who would like to own a legit copy ofExpelled without sending any cash to the lying weasels who made it, would be well advised to check eBay now. As I write this post, the cheapest used copy on eBay has a "Buy it now" price of $1.50, a seller-specified minimum bid of $0.10, and exactly 0 (zero) bids

I've seen it at garage sales,  but can't affotd the time to watch it.

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KevinB



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2013,16:00   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 25 2013,07:39)
Quote (Cubist @ Oct. 25 2013,06:23)
Anyone who would like to own a legit copy ofExpelled without sending any cash to the lying weasels who made it, would be well advised to check eBay now. As I write this post, the cheapest used copy on eBay has a "Buy it now" price of $1.50, a seller-specified minimum bid of $0.10, and exactly 0 (zero) bids

I've seen it at garage sales, but can't affotd the time to watch it.

I've occasionally thought of getting a copy of Paley's Natural Theology, but I can't afford the watch. :)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2013,17:44   

Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 25 2013,16:00)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 25 2013,07:39)
 
Quote (Cubist @ Oct. 25 2013,06:23)
Anyone who would like to own a legit copy ofExpelled without sending any cash to the lying weasels who made it, would be well advised to check eBay now. As I write this post, the cheapest used copy on eBay has a "Buy it now" price of $1.50, a seller-specified minimum bid of $0.10, and exactly 0 (zero) bids

I've seen it at garage sales, but can't affotd the time to watch it.

I've occasionally thought of getting a copy of Paley's Natural Theology, but I can't afford the watch. :)

Maybe you'll get lucky and find a copy that assembled randomly.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2013,18:04   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Oct. 25 2013,15:44)
Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 25 2013,16:00)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 25 2013,07:39)
Quote (Cubist @ Oct. 25 2013,06:23)
Anyone who would like to own a legit copy ofExpelled without sending any cash to the lying weasels who made it, would be well advised to check eBay now. As I write this post, the cheapest used copy on eBay has a "Buy it now" price of $1.50, a seller-specified minimum bid of $0.10, and exactly 0 (zero) bids

I've seen it at garage sales, but can't affotd the time to watch it.

I've occasionally thought of getting a copy of Paley's Natural Theology, but I can't afford the watch. :)

Maybe you'll get lucky and find a copy that assembled randomly.

Go for a walk across the heath.  Maybe you'll find one.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2013,19:13   

Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 25 2013,18:04)
Quote (Texas Teach @ Oct. 25 2013,15:44)
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Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 25 2013,07:39)
 
Quote (Cubist @ Oct. 25 2013,06:23)
Anyone who would like to own a legit copy ofExpelled without sending any cash to the lying weasels who made it, would be well advised to check eBay now. As I write this post, the cheapest used copy on eBay has a "Buy it now" price of $1.50, a seller-specified minimum bid of $0.10, and exactly 0 (zero) bids

I've seen it at garage sales, but can't affotd the time to watch it.

I've occasionally thought of getting a copy of Paley's Natural Theology, but I can't afford the watch. :)

Maybe you'll get lucky and find a copy that assembled randomly.

Go for a walk across the heath. Maybe you'll find one.

Best time is after a tornado.  

Best place is a junkyard.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2013,11:26   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 25 2013,08:39)
Quote (Cubist @ Oct. 25 2013,06:23)
Anyone who would like to own a legit copy ofExpelled without sending any cash to the lying weasels who made it, would be well advised to check eBay now. As I write this post, the cheapest used copy on eBay has a "Buy it now" price of $1.50, a seller-specified minimum bid of $0.10, and exactly 0 (zero) bids

I've seen it at garage sales, but can't affotd the time to watch it.

You're not missing anything.

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Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2014,05:29   

Just did an eBay search for expelled dvd. Right now, the least expensive result has a high bid of $0.39, plus $3.50 for shipping. Anybody who wanted to get their hands on a copy of this piece of shit without sending any money to the coffers of the deceitful weasels who created it, might want to take advantage of eBay.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2014,09:43   

No thanks.
:p

  
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