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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,19:42   

It's been changed. You're right about moderating though. I'm back in school for the semester, and I just won't have the time.

Plus, I'm not really interested in reading FL's nonsense. He's been posting the same lying bullshit at PT since I've been there (several years now), and I don't really have any interest in reading any more of it than I already have.

Though I've retired from full moderator status here, I still have the Buttón de la Emeritus, and if someone sends me a PM I can move a comment to the BW if necessary on my next visit. Pick one person to be responsible for that. I'll move comments based on PMs from that one person.

I don't necessarily get to come here every day, so please be patient. School has to take priority, of course.

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csadams



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,19:56   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 10 2009,17:23)
Bleh. Okay, I'm going to assume FL = male.


Reasonable assumption, seems like.

     
Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 10 2009,17:23)
I'm responsible for inviting "FL" without having any real knowledge of  his track record at PT or CARM or wherever. I just saw him posting at PT and disrupting a thread I was interested in. I didn't know it was a "regular" irritant there and my intent was to find a decent chew-toy.

FL at KCFS

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,20:44   

Oi, this is not good. I tended to avoid the whole Kansas thing since it wasn't my state, but I donated through the ACLU as I've been doing for a while.

CARM...Hah, I never joined up there because I met Matt Slick on Yahoo chat eons ago and he really, really didn't like me. The feeling was mutual, so I didn't bother -- but I did watch CARM morph into the creature it is. I just didn't read it after a while.

And PT...I have a bad habit of not reading a lot of comments, so I just didn't see "FL" much. I also mentally blot out creo posts when I do see them, most of the time.

It's like a perfect storm of stupid on my part. Oh, well.

All of FL's KCFS posts are here, if you want to lose neurons: http://www.kcfs.org/forums....art=525  (thank you, csadams).

I need a time machine. This is indeed an odious critter.

LouFCD: no worries, I'll make a point of not bugging you at all, classes are way more important.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,21:36   

Well, we are talking about somebody who "defends" Christianity by announcing that it's incompatable with a strongly-supported evidence based conclusion about how nature works. May nobody see fit to "defend" me in such a manner.

Henry

  
afarensis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,21:37   

When I follow the link to KCFS I get "No topics or posts met your search criteria"

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,21:48   

afarensis: damn, yeah. I thought my link worked, but  when I dumped my cache, it linked to what you stated. Let's see if this works:  http://www.kcfs.org/forums/search.php?search_author=FL

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fusilier



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,06:49   

Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Sep. 10 2009,08:51)
{snip}
While the Pope is clearly Christian, I would argue that he's no true Scotsman.

<churchlady voice>
Of course not, the current one is German, the previous one was Polish, and before that they were pretty much all Italian.
</voice>
Dunno whether any of 'em liked oatmeal for breakfast, though.

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Occam's Toothbrush



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,07:32   

Quote (fusilier @ Sep. 11 2009,07:49)
 
Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Sep. 10 2009,08:51)
{snip}
While the Pope is clearly Christian, I would argue that he's no true Scotsman.

<churchlady voice>
Of course not, the current one is German, the previous one was Polish, and before that they were pretty much all Italian.
</voice>
Dunno whether any of 'em liked oatmeal for breakfast, though.

And does the Pope wear underwear under his kilt dress?

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SLP



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,08:33   

"FL" also posts on numerous boards as "Mellotron".

He supposedly has a background in journalism, but if you are familiar with his antics, it seems more of a FOX news type of yarn-spinning ideologue.

He has a tendency to hunt the net to find a single person who has written something that he can construe as supporting his position and then presents this person's ideas as the ultimate truth on the matter, and no matter how much evidence is presented overturning his claims, he will not yield.

He has, for example, taken an out of context quote from Jon Oro that he uses to imply that biological evolution INCLUDES abiogenesis.  When it is pointed out that Oro was referring to the CONCEPT of evolution (change over time), not the theory of evolution, he simply restates his original claims and claims victory.

In short, he is a hero-worshipping, ignorant, obstinate, classic Dunning-Kruger poster boy, YEC dimwit hack.

  
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,09:29   

I've been wondering, having been involved in discussions on PT with FL whether the moniker stands for Fringe Lunatic. Seriously...he is one odd thinking soul.

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Jasper



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,10:23   

"FL" are the initials of "Floyd A. Lee," a resident of Topeka, Kansas. He outed himself years ago on PT.

Interestingly, here's an old article from the Topeka Capitol Journal written by someone named Floyd Lee.  I wonder if it was the same FL?

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,10:24   

Quote (SLP @ Sep. 11 2009,09:33)
"FL" also posts on numerous boards as "Mellotron".

He supposedly has a background in journalism, but if you are familiar with his antics, it seems more of a FOX news type of yarn-spinning ideologue.

He has a tendency to hunt the net to find a single person who has written something that he can construe as supporting his position and then presents this person's ideas as the ultimate truth on the matter, and no matter how much evidence is presented overturning his claims, he will not yield.

He has, for example, taken an out of context quote from Jon Oro that he uses to imply that biological evolution INCLUDES abiogenesis.  When it is pointed out that Oro was referring to the CONCEPT of evolution (change over time), not the theory of evolution, he simply restates his original claims and claims victory.

In short, he is a hero-worshipping, ignorant, obstinate, classic Dunning-Kruger poster boy, YEC dimwit hack.

that's quite a string!  I am impressed.

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mammuthus



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,10:38   

Quote (SLP @ Sep. 11 2009,08:33)
"FL" also posts on numerous boards as "Mellotron".

Yes, see this brief discussion with Per Ahlberg on the subject of tetrapod evolution that I instigated:

http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?p=205071#post205071

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,11:35   

Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 10 2009,19:36)
Well, we are talking about somebody who "defends" Christianity by announcing that it's incompatable with a strongly-supported evidence based conclusion about how nature works. May nobody see fit to "defend" me in such a manner.

Henry

I was thinking the same thing myself.  I suppose if you can demonstrate that your religion is incompatible with reality, you've shown that your faith is really, really strong.

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SLP



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,11:56   

Quote (Jasper @ Sep. 11 2009,10:23)
"FL" are the initials of "Floyd A. Lee," a resident of Topeka, Kansas. He outed himself years ago on PT.

Interestingly, here's an old article from the Topeka Capitol Journal written by someone named Floyd Lee.  I wonder if it was the same FL?

And a list of his articles:

http://findarticles.com/p....Journal


I wonder if they know how much of a dishonest dork he is there in Toe -PEEEK -uh....

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,12:18   

Quote (mammuthus @ Sep. 11 2009,10:38)
Quote (SLP @ Sep. 11 2009,08:33)
"FL" also posts on numerous boards as "Mellotron".

Yes, see this brief discussion with Per Ahlberg on the subject of tetrapod evolution that I instigated:

http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?p=205071#post205071

Ah, dammit, I recall reading that thread. Hell, I put in a meaningless "humorous" post in it, but completely erased (or utterly ignored) the link of Mellotron with FL.

I'd completely forgotten that "Fastnet" moniker, too. I plead senility or something.

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,13:29   

Quote (Jasper @ Sep. 11 2009,10:23)
"FL" are the initials of "Floyd A. Lee," a resident of Topeka, Kansas. He outed himself years ago on PT.

Interestingly, here's an old article from the Topeka Capitol Journal written by someone named Floyd Lee.  I wonder if it was the same FL?

Yes, I was being facetious. I knew he identified himself at one point, but couldn't remember his name. Still, you have to admit that  "Fringe Lunatic"  fits.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,13:59   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 10 2009,17:42)
Though I've retired from full moderator status here,

If you've retired & Teve Tory is MIA, who's wielding the power of life & death here now? Kristine?

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:02   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 11 2009,19:59)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 10 2009,17:42)
Though I've retired from full moderator status here,

If you've retired & Teve Tory is MIA, who's wielding the power of life & death here now? Kristine?

Angling for a promotion?

Louis

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:16   

If I am chosen as moderator, my first act will be to ban Louis. My second act will be to disemvowel all K.E.'s posts, on the theory that they should then make much more sense. Having done that, I will immediately resign.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:23   

Moderatley good moderators:

RBIll
Bob O
Zach
Alan Fox
Oleg
lose Von Kannon
Deadman932
sasanfrancis

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:37   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 11 2009,12:23)
Moderatley good moderators:

RBIll
Bob O
Zach
Alan Fox
Oleg
lose Von Kannon
Deadman932
sasanfrancis

Isn't there some guy in Texas with a floating command centre?

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 11 2009,14:23)
Moderatley good moderators:

RBIll
Bob O
Zach
Alan Fox
Oleg
lose Von Kannon
Deadman932
sasanfrancis


Yesss, YESSsss, my pretties. Place my name in consideration for king universal overlord moderator.

I promise that you'd not be disappointed by my reign -- for I would rule with an IRON FIST
 
BWAHAHAHA!!shift1!!

P.S. I'd refuse because I dislike moderating.  It's too much work, and a thankless task. Plus I'd have to put up with you lot, which wouldn't last too damn long, let me tell you.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:39   

Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 11 2009,14:37)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 11 2009,12:23)
Moderatley good moderators:

RBIll
Bob O
Zach
Alan Fox
Oleg
lose Von Kannon
Deadman932
sasanfrancis

Isn't there some guy in Texas with a floating command centre?



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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:39   

Evilutionists arguing over moderation? WATERLOO!!!11!!

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:41   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 11 2009,14:38)
P.S. I'd refuse because of the above tendency towards absolute monarchy. Plus I dislike moderating.

I only put you on the list as the token HOMO/mincer candidate.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,14:52   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 11 2009,14:41)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 11 2009,14:38)
P.S. I'd refuse because of the above tendency towards absolute monarchy. Plus I dislike moderating.

I only put you on the list as the token HOMO/mincer candidate.

HAHA, I changed my post, now don't you look silly.
 


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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,15:01   

Oh, so instead of Waterloo, it's Doom's Day?

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,15:03   

HAR HAR THIS IS YOU:



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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Jasper



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,15:11   

Quote (Robin @ Sep. 11 2009,14:29)
 
Quote (Jasper @ Sep. 11 2009,10:23)
"FL" are the initials of "Floyd A. Lee," a resident of Topeka, Kansas. He outed himself years ago on PT.

Interestingly, here's an old article from the Topeka Capitol Journal written by someone named Floyd Lee.  I wonder if it was the same FL?

Yes, I was being facetious. I knew he identified himself at one point, but couldn't remember his name. Still, you have to admit that  "Fringe Lunatic"  fits.

IMO, he has also earned the moniker "Flagrant Liar."

  
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