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Gunthernacus



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2009,10:07   

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Wow.  They seem like nice guys.  How again is Vox qualified to lecture the British electorate?

The standard British response to a lecture from Vox Day will be a gesture involving two fingers and a reference to the Biblical commandment to go forth and multiply.

Re the British two-fingered salute: how is it dis-ambiguated from V for Victory?

I think that the V for victory shows the palm of the hand, while the 2-fingered salute shows the back of the hand to the recipient (and a beckoning-type motion of the hand, too?).

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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2009,10:11   

Correct. legend has it the  'swearing' V dates back to the battle of Agincourt:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign

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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2009,21:38   

A regular muses on evolutionary theory:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/07/mailvox-simulating-evolution.html

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Evolution... Supposedly has it's beginnings in a primordial soup. (sigh)

All this evolution stuff begs the questions:

1. Supposedly everything goes back to the big bang. Where did all this matter come from?
2. If the right chemicals were present in a primordial soup and then something happens, (i.e. lightning, an aliens cigarette butt (or whatever aliens smoke) being tossed into the pot, maybe a chemical battery was formed and discharged) the right chemicals form together to form DNA on the molecular level and poof! A single cell creature is formed.

What did this little single cell creature eat? Because in order to eat, something must die. Unless they are a plant. They make food from soil and the sun. Now if this little cell is of plant type, Then how come mammals, reptiles and fish are not somewhat like plants? And how come the single cell could survive to reproduce (asexually I assume) to make up the world we live in now? How come the first little guy didn't starve to death for lack of food?


Bet you "scientists" never thought of that..

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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2009,22:28   

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzomg!

Pwned!


D00000med!


WE GIVE UP! SORRY, JESUS!

I'm no kin to the monkey, no no no
The monkey's no kin to me, yeah yeah yeah
I don't know much about his ancestors
But mine didn't swing from a tree

This monkey business has got to stop
Because it just isn't true
The teachers who believe evolution
Would be better off in a zoo!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2009,02:47   

Idiot Vox gets duped:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/08/good-news-they-found-hospital.html

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 25 2009,09:42   

FAILSAUCE:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/08/mailvox-five-questions.html

anyone who thinks VD is bright should behold the reasoning in this one..

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 25 2009,10:23   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 25 2009,09:42)
FAILSAUCE:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/08/mailvox-five-questions.html

anyone who thinks VD is bright should behold the reasoning in this one..

Thanks for the link, but I could not force myself to finish reading the words he put down.  His wring makes Denyse look sane.  

ps:  I don't think VD is bright, I think VD is a dangerous disease that should be wiped out to make the world a better place to live.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,20:20   

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/08/there-is-no-marital-rape.html

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First, there is no such thing as marital rape. Once consent is formally given in public ceremony, it cannot be revoked; the form in which marital consent is revoked is well-established. It is called divorce. ....


Religious, 'women as property' idiocy. I almost feel sorry for his idiot wife (stupidest of a litter of 12).

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,20:59   

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http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/08/there-is-no-marital-rape.html

 
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First, there is no such thing as marital rape. Once consent is formally given in public ceremony, it cannot be revoked; the form in which marital consent is revoked is well-established. It is called divorce. ....


Religious, 'women as property' idiocy. I almost feel sorry for his idiot wife (stupidest of a litter of 12).

thats the sort of tard on which we need to get gordon mullings tardificating

UD could stand a dope of that sort of stupid.  VD, well, rich, you know everyone expects that kinda shit there.  UD is good because while most of the tards probably agree they at least don't say it out loud.  let's make 'em

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2009,12:16   

Teddy moans about Penn Jillette, so my sock socks it to him:

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Peter File    9/6/09 11:04 AM
VD: 9/6/09 12:35 AM:
small fish doesn't even begin to describe his insignificance.


To be clear, Penn Jillette > you.


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VD    9/6/09 11:25 AM
Peter File: 9/6/09 11:04 AM:
To be clear, Penn Jillette > you.
Yes, I'm sure intellectuals, think tanks, and politicians everywhere give a damn about an American comedian's opinion on... anything. Stephanie Meyer and Britney Spears are even more famous than Mr. Jillette and I don't worry much about what they think either.

Hey, but at least he managed to write a book about playing in traffic. With help.


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Peter File    9/6/09 11:46 AM
VD: 9/6/09 11:25 AM:

Peter File: 9/6/09 11:04 AM:
To be clear, Penn Jillette > you.
Yes, I'm sure intellectuals, think tanks, and politicians everywhere give a damn about an American comedian's opinion on... anything. Stephanie Meyer and Britney Spears are even more famous than Mr. Jillette and I don't worry much about what they think either.

Hey, but at least he managed to write a book about playing in traffic. With help.


Are you in intellectual circles? I Handn't noticed.


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Peter File    9/6/09 12:13 PM
VD: 9/6/09 11:25 AM:
Yes, I'm sure intellectuals, think tanks, and politicians everywhere give a damn about an American comedian's opinion on... anything.


Jillette is a Fellow at the libertarian think tank, the Cato Institute.

Bwahahahahahahahhahahahaha


Fact-checking. Something the reality based community does. Another reason Penn Jillette > you.


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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2009,16:03   

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/09/fearful-hypocrites.html

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Tomato, tomahto. PZ knows perfectly well I'd kick his ass on any subject, including his area of scientific expertise. I've got around +2SD IQ on him and I'm better educated. But he can keep running away and I'll keep laughing at him, that suits me just fine too. Dawkins is too dumb to pay attention to criticism, which is why his arguments, to the extent they even are arguments, never improve.


Thank you your gorgeous sexy fundy twat!

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 21 2009,11:31   

Worth saving:
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[quote class="userCommentQuote"]<b>Hylomorphic: 9/20/09 12:33 PM:</b> <br><blockquote class="userCommentQuote"><b>Jason1975: 9/20/09 3:20 AM:</b>
Actually Hylomorpic, you've just made Vox's point for him.

Gould made the same point, that if evolution was reversed and allowed to run again then the outcome would be different than what we have. However lack of repeatability equals lack of predictability equals lack of status as a scientific theory.

You last point fails on exactly that point. You can't claim that the evidence for evolution is empirical if evolution doesn't predict anything you can actually empirically test.</blockquote>

A common point of confusion among those whose understanding of the philosophy of science goes no further than the first chapter of their chemistry book is that science demands the prediction of outcomes of future experiments.

While it's certainly true that the easiest and most reliable method of acquiring scientific data is by planning and running repeatable experiments, this is often impractical or impossible. Particularly for fields like archaeology, geology, and paleontology, which primarily investigate past events. It is not essential that the event discovered and added to the data set be repeatable. It is only essential that the observation of the event itself be repeatable--other scientists can come look at those dinosaur fossils, for instance.

Astrophysics is another example of a science which cannot make repeatable experiments, though it frequently does deal with the future. It is simply not possible to experimentally repeat sending a particular comet around the sun. Which is why, when an interesting celestial event occurs which is rare enough that future observations will be difficult, multiple scientific organizations try to train their telescopes on it to mitigate observer bias.



<blockquote class="userCommentQuote"><b>VD: 9/20/09 6:47 AM:</b>
Agreed.  So what?  One can't reasonably claim the credibility of scientific rigor and then complain that doing the actual science is too hard.  The fact that you CAN'T do it is conclusive evidence that you AREN'T doing it.  Most evolutionary "science" is in fact the use of proxies for science.  Not unreasonable, but not science either.</blockquote>

I was trying to make the point that a method unreliable for the social sciences may be much more reliable for the hard sciences. What did you think I was trying to say?

<blockquote class="userCommentQuote"><b>VD: 9/20/09 6:47 AM:</b>
<blockquote class="userCommentQuote"><b>Hylomorphic: 9/19/09 1:03 PM:</b>
Second, biology makes little use of backtesting in the way you describe it. Evolutionary biology, as far as I'm aware, makes none to speak of. </blockquote>Real biology doesn't.  Evolution apologists certainly do.  That's what many the citations of the fossile record are based upon.  Or look at the way the discovery of the Tiktaalik fossil is portrayed.</blockquote>

You must have revised your definition of "backtesting," and you look rather like you've fallen into the same fundamental confusion as Jason. It is not backtesting merely because it deals with past events; it only becomes backtesting when a simulated model is run. That method is not (as far as I know) used by biologists.

In fact, it would be a sign of the strength of evolutionary theory if the sort of backtesting you describe could be done (though, as I said, I think that's a wildly optimistic hope). It would verify as never before its theoretical soundness.

As it happens, Tiktaalik was discovered through logical inference from known factors in the fish-to-reptile transition. For the transition to occur in the way believed, such and such a kind of creature would have to have existed at some point, and it probably would have had to live in such and such an area at such and such a time. A prediction having been made, the scientists went out into the field to make their observations. And in this case, the observation confirmed the hypothesis.

This is a textbook example of scientific discovery. Not "backtesting."<hr />[/quote]

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 21 2009,22:37   

Sounds like somebody is taking "prediction" to mean predicting every result in infinite detail. Science wouldn't work if infinite detail was necessary; the point is that some predictions can be made that can be tested.

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2009,14:12   

Falsification: Something else Vox Day doesn't understand:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/09/mailvox-falsification.html

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R wonders what would qualify:


I'd very much appreciate it if you would elaborate on what you would consider a falsification of Christianity.


There are numerous possibilities, including:

1) The discovery of Jesus Christ's body.
2) An intact Temple in Jerusalem.
3) The end of war or poverty.
4) The elimination of the Christian Church.
5) Immortality science.
6) A demonstrated ability to avoid Biblical sin.
7) The destruction of the Jewish people.

These are all material things, easily and objectively observable. It is incorrect to claim that religion is magically beyond scientific observation. God may be, but it's readily apparent that most religions, including Christianity, are not.


2) is the only remotely useable one.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,04:30   

Someone already had the name Beelzebub so I had to take the next number.

The problem with Item 1 is that a lot of believers have already stated that if Simcha Jacobovici actually did discover the tomb of Jesus it still wouldn't convince them that the Resurrection is bunk.

To the larger question of whether Vox Day has the slightest clue what "falsifiable" means.  Of course not!  Vox Day never understands what he's talking about -- and never lets that stop him.  Falsifiable means you have to be able to conceive an experiment that would show something is false, not that there are fortuitous events that may or may not transpire showing something to be false if you're very lucky.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,08:51   

Quote (Beelzebub667 @ Sep. 25 2009,04:30)
Someone already had the name Beelzebub so I had to take the next number.

The problem with Item 1 is that a lot of believers have already stated that if Simcha Jacobovici actually did discover the tomb of Jesus it still wouldn't convince them that the Resurrection is bunk.

To the larger question of whether Vox Day has the slightest clue what "falsifiable" means.  Of course not!  Vox Day never understands what he's talking about -- and never lets that stop him.  Falsifiable means you have to be able to conceive an experiment that would show something is false, not that there are fortuitous events that may or may not transpire showing something to be false if you're very lucky.

Welcome Beelzebub!

Your posts used to shine a little ray of reality into Vox's cave and provide much needed critique. Of course that's incompatible with his ego. But I was (am) a big fan. I hope you find some of the other threads interesting - are you a logician?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,09:11   

quick to rally to any neocon cause, he's upset with global warming again:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/09/agw-biggest-science-fraud-yet.html

Or maybe he doesn't want us delaying the rapture any longer?

edit to add this nugget from Vox:

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Actually, the main reason I'm so strongly against the AGW/CC BS is that I'm from Minnesota. You know, an area that used to be COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. During the years I lived there, I happened to notice that IT IS NO LONGER COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. Ergo, the rational conclusion is that the planet has been warming considerably for quite some time without any help from Man.

Also, I fail to see any significant downside to the sudden and catastrophic inundation of the East and West Coasts portrayed in the more hysterical global warming scenarios.


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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,09:39   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 25 2009,10:11)
quick to rally to any neocon cause, he's upset with global warming again:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/09/agw-biggest-science-fraud-yet.html

Or maybe he doesn't want us delaying the rapture any longer?

edit to add this nugget from Vox:

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Actually, the main reason I'm so strongly against the AGW/CC BS is that I'm from Minnesota. You know, an area that used to be COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. During the years I lived there, I happened to notice that IT IS NO LONGER COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. Ergo, the rational conclusion is that the planet has been warming considerably for quite some time without any help from Man.

Also, I fail to see any significant downside to the sudden and catastrophic inundation of the East and West Coasts portrayed in the more hysterical global warming scenarios.

themmar fancy east coast and west coast librulz!  

VD thinks he is a god damned Noah

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,09:44   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 25 2009,10:39)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 25 2009,10:11)
quick to rally to any neocon cause, he's upset with global warming again:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/09/agw-biggest-science-fraud-yet.html

Or maybe he doesn't want us delaying the rapture any longer?

edit to add this nugget from Vox:

 
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Actually, the main reason I'm so strongly against the AGW/CC BS is that I'm from Minnesota. You know, an area that used to be COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. During the years I lived there, I happened to notice that IT IS NO LONGER COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. Ergo, the rational conclusion is that the planet has been warming considerably for quite some time without any help from Man.

Also, I fail to see any significant downside to the sudden and catastrophic inundation of the East and West Coasts portrayed in the more hysterical global warming scenarios.

themmar fancy east coast and west coast librulz!  

VD thinks he is a god damned Noah

He lives in that "Real" America that God and Sarah Palin love so much.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,09:47   

Quote (ppb @ Sep. 25 2009,09:44)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 25 2009,10:39)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 25 2009,10:11)
quick to rally to any neocon cause, he's upset with global warming again:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/09/agw-biggest-science-fraud-yet.html

Or maybe he doesn't want us delaying the rapture any longer?

edit to add this nugget from Vox:

   
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Actually, the main reason I'm so strongly against the AGW/CC BS is that I'm from Minnesota. You know, an area that used to be COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. During the years I lived there, I happened to notice that IT IS NO LONGER COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. Ergo, the rational conclusion is that the planet has been warming considerably for quite some time without any help from Man.

Also, I fail to see any significant downside to the sudden and catastrophic inundation of the East and West Coasts portrayed in the more hysterical global warming scenarios.

themmar fancy east coast and west coast librulz!  

VD thinks he is a god damned Noah

He lives in that "Real" America that God and Sarah Palin love so much.

He lives in Italy now. But tells America what's-what.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,09:58   

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It's clear that "Hylomorph" is the previously banned commenter named Rich, for example.


Hylomorph is not me, but I'm liking his posts. Nice to think I've induced paranoia. Oh wait, he already had that in abundance.


TEH_LIBRRULS_R_COMMING_WITH_THEY'RE_FASHIZUM

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,10:21   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 25 2009,10:47)
He lives in Italy now. But tells America what's-what.

I stand corrected.

He lives in that "Real" Italy that God and Sarah Palin love so much.

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But tells America what's-what.

Just like Sarah Palin!

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2009,15:45   

Vox:

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Do as you like. I make a habit of entertaining far more outlandish concepts on a regular basis. That's one reason why I have been able to nail price movements to a 99 percent precision 11 months in advance while all the experts were wildly off.


O_o

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Wow. You must be a billionaire by now!


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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2009,03:34   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 25 2009,08:51)
Your posts used to shine a little ray of reality into Vox's cave and provide much needed critique. Of course that's incompatible with his ego. But I was (am) a big fan. I hope you find some of the other threads interesting - are you a logician?

Thanks.  No, not a logician, though I've done the obligatory reading of Godel, Escher, Back, and I try not to make the usual mistake of reading too much into the Godel proof -- which is becoming unfortunately fashionable.

VD has many problems beyond extreme ego inflation; many stem from his utter devotion to unexamined belief.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2009,19:11   

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VD has many problems beyond extreme ego inflation;

Like a bad choice of name, given alternate meaning of the initials?

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2009,03:29   

Oops, I mean Bach.  I was tired, so, so tired.  I felt like showing up here saying "My name is Beelzebub...and I'm a tardaholic, Ahh--huh, huh, sniffle.  It's been 3 days since I last visited Vox Popoli."

Seriously though, I'm trying to cut back.  The lunatics are now running that asylum -- and you know what?  You aren't going to change them.  They're so far gone that they're never coming back.  But the reason places like this are still important is that I feel sorry for the dupe who shows up at VP and says yeah, I'm going to read more and take this guy seriously -- and so the insanity spreads like a disease.  If there isn't at least the vague opportunity for counterpoint, that's a grave error.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2009,10:08   

Quote (Beelzebub667 @ Sep. 27 2009,03:29)
Oops, I mean Bach.  I was tired, so, so tired.  I felt like showing up here saying "My name is Beelzebub...and I'm a tardaholic, Ahh--huh, huh, sniffle.  It's been 3 days since I last visited Vox Popoli."

Seriously though, I'm trying to cut back.  The lunatics are now running that asylum -- and you know what?  You aren't going to change them.  They're so far gone that they're never coming back.  But the reason places like this are still important is that I feel sorry for the dupe who shows up at VP and says yeah, I'm going to read more and take this guy seriously -- and so the insanity spreads like a disease.  If there isn't at least the vague opportunity for counterpoint, that's a grave error.

Spacebunny is on high alert for any rationals that might have crossed their boarders.

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dnmlthr



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2009,11:04   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 27 2009,16:08)
Spacebunny is on high alert for any rationals that might have crossed their boarders.

The minutemen of tard.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 02 2009,19:54   

Debate!

http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=3660

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2009,00:35   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 02 2009,19:54)
Debate!

http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=3660

Gets my vote for worst web page design of the month.

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